Repent.
>>535904156Inagine building giant statues of kikes haha could be me
>>535904156You actually can spell it
Polacks can spell?
>>535904156yes, i believe the PERFECT mother was a JEWISH WOMEN!!!
Mary is based.
All protniggers must die. I hope I'm there to watch as you have to explain to Jesus why you hate His mom so much at your judgement.
>>535904156Protestants hate Mary just like their Jew masters.
>>535904156They worship mary then act like they are not doing it.
>>535905048No, we just know you are not supposed to worship her.
>>535904156you simple retards only have idolatry and derivatives, all religions are the same, bunch of faggot losers compensating for their own flaws.
>>535904387Rabbi ideology will be purged, majority don't believe in jewish gods already
idolatry is a pagan practice, no Catholic is an idolator, it's something jeets do thinking God is contained in a representation of him or sthstatues and icons are just that, it's just art, sign of respect
>>535904156>tfw your entire religion hinges on believing a waman
>>535905199We don't worship Mary either. Dulia =/= Latria. Every "protnigger" argument relies entirely on either completely misunderstanding or willfully misrepresenting and lying about orthodox beliefs. Asking why we have statues and icons and such is tantamount to asking someone "Why take a picture of something when you can just remember it in your head?"
Prots crack me up with their Mary hatred. Bro she was literally the new ark of the covenant. You are only diminishing Christ by denying her.
>>535905276Bro Catholics have a literal pantheon of saints
>>535905342We don't worship saints. We ask them for the exact same type of intercessory power that people alive on earth praying for each other possesses.
>>535905276>the art, to inspire the conceptual idol within the mindstill idolatry just with an extra step.
>>535904156>>535904230>>535905048>>535905173>>535905245I'm not a kike on a stick worshipping christcuck, what's wrong with appreciating the literal mother and creator of their g*d, king kike jewsus?
>>535905199who worships her?with Mary and the saints it's that we believe it for certain that they're in Heaven, and everyone in Heaven can see from above what's going on here on earth, so the hope is that they hear the prayer and consult with God directly this like petition of sortsit's literally just that
>>535905199You have an incomplete understanding of her significance you little wayward prot. You need to view Mary as the new dwelling place of God. To deny this would be to deny Christ.
>>535905390Until a demonic entity lives inside of your statue and starts whispering arcane secrets to you in exchange for (actual) worship, it's just a statue. You have no idea what an idol even is, it is literally interchangeable with the entity being worshipped because that being literally inhabits it. For thousands of years all cultures across the entire world understood what these things were, you neurotic protniggers are in actuality just retarded iconoclasts who think any piece of art whataoever is demonic.
>>535905443Why not just pray to God instead of doing the rosary thing, seems retarded.
>>535905542they're literally like the taliban, lol
>>535905595you might find this shocking, but most of the time Catholics pray directly to God, lol. when people ask Mary or the other saints to intercede it's just for mental comfort and reassurance
>>535905412Why is Diana-chan so cute, bros?
>>535905595Why did God create an entire army of angels instead of just handling everything Himself when it is clearly well within His power?
It's sort of interesting the image of Jesus' mother gives me comfort since childhood but to someone from various protestant sects it gives discomfort or/and anxiety
Where do prots get their canon from?
>>535904156As long as the Holy Mother makes kikes and pajeets seethe, keep them coming.
>>535905595Intercession was weird to me until I looked at it more like asking your church group or family to pray for you. Technically it's still intercession, but we ask the Saints to pray for us because they are closer to God than we are in more ways than one. At least that's kind of how I was taught.
>>535905793Because you aren't looking at a jewess from the first century but the image of the white goddess that had existed in almost every human culture
>>535905846God
Just wait until Trump announces an even taller statue of himself.
>>535905276Literally bow before and pray to statues of mary..
>>535905296We all see you doing it!
>>535905688>people ask Mary or the other saints to intercedeJesus exists for that very reason.>hmm I'm gonna pray to Mary because Jesus is mad at me and mom can call him downRetardation.>>535905595The go-to Catholic defence is that they don't worship Mary, that's the official policy, but the truth is that the practice is rampant, especially among rural populations in third world countries. You don't need statues and icons for something you don't actually worship. In Poland, there are places where Mary worship exceeds the actual worship of our Lord. You can find churches in the countryside that are dedicated solely to Mary worship.
>>535905412Nothing really, because real life Christians are not anti-semitic incels like the fake christcuck LARPers of /pol/.
Prots will be BTFO one day
>>535904387yes but it takes four of them
>>535905328If you don't bow before mary and worship her well that means you are diminishing Christ.
>>535904156Protestards with their performative hatred towards Virgin Mary are like that chink soldier who spent half of his life on a remote island, unaware that the war ended long time ago and nobody gives a shit anymore.Fuck protestards and fuck kikes. Don't fuck OP because faggots like him probably like it.
>>535905995Dulia =/= Latria. You can pilpul all you want, you're making up your own headcanon of what we believe that bears no resemblance to what we actually do.
>>535905846Why do Catholics constantly change their canon with the way the wind is currently moving while pretending that their canon has always been the same?
>>535905468Pfft, you say you don't worship mary then tell us we better worship her. Um no, the only thing that matters is the relationship with God. There is nothing to deny. Not worshipping her like you demand is not a denial of anything.
I worry that crucifixes and Mary statues and all that are kind of becoming "asheras"(a sort of religious totem used to worship god by pagan converts in Canaan) that god commanded people to destroy in the past.
>>535905412Its very very clear that you are not supposed to run around worshipping other Gods even if you don't realize you are doing it.
>>535906086I would give anything to watch them stand before Christ and have to explain to Him why they hate His mom so much.
>>535905952The Bible didn’t exist until the Catholic Church put it together. If Protestants hate Catholicism so much then stop reading Catholic books.
>>535904943The Giga Grand Wizard
>>535906088LOL it is all so comical.
>>535906054>>535906130No I did not tell you to worship her, but you need to recognize her significance as the one who literally housed God. It's pretty clear you have a double digit IQ and argue in bad faith. I think that's the real issue a lot of you prots have. You get upset when Catholic refuse to bend to your wrongly interpreted worldview.
>>535906138We don't worship the saints or statues/icons/etc. Dulia =/= Latria. I'll repeat this as many times as it takes. I'll say this again too, asking why we have these is literally tantamount to asking someone "Why would you take a picture of this when you can just remember it in your head? Why would you make a painting when you can just imagine it?"
>>535906160Not worshipping mary does not equate to hating her.
>>535906086Nobody hates Mary, you faggot retard. Any good Christian venerates Mary. Protestants venerate Mary. But Mary WORSHIP is a non-biblical. According to the Bible, Mary is waiting to be resurrected just like everyone who ever died. The idea that Mary is ruling over Heaven is borderline heresy.
>>535904156Rather it have a bunch of arms and an elephant head, brown boi?
>>535906239There is nothing to interpret, just stop worshipping mary, you are not supposed to be doing that. How hard is this to understand.Just responding that you don't do that is just words WE SEE YOU DO IT, you are all demanding it now.
>>535906193>Catholic ChurchDidn't exist back then
>>535906269Oh that's rich. Lots of prots flat out damn Mary.
>>535906236What's comical is how for the last 500+ years you protniggers have had circles run around your retarded blasphemous theology and yet even today, in the information age, where you can easily see just how wrong you are about everything you believe, you still just back yourselves further and further into fanaticism in the face of not having any actual arguments against orthodoxy. You know everything we say is the truth which is why you obsess over inane and completely untrue things like "BUT YOU WORSHIP STATUES AND DEAD PEOPLE".Repent.
>>535905936>Intercession was weird to me until I looked at it more like asking your church group or family to pray for you.it's exactly like this
>>535906262You may not be worshipping the object, but in a way, you are worshipping through the objects.Even among the Protestant churches, you will often see a person in a moment of stress hold their cross necklace while praying. That, at least visually, looks like channeling through a focus.
>>535906404Pfft LOL What? Where? It is insane how much you war against your fellow believers.
>>535906333Repeating a lie over and over again will not make it true you little wayward prot.
>>535906292>According to the Bible, Mary is waiting to be resurrected just like everyone who ever died. Soul sleep isn't biblical and has never been orthodox Christian belief in the entire 2,000 year history of the faith.
>>535905846The Bible
>>535906418I don't need to repent for not doing what you demand or nothing thinking people are right or wrong for not following your rituals. Just stop worshipping mary, how hard is it?
>>535906450Because that is literally what we have them for, to help us focus on our prayer. Do you worship first responders and ER surgeons or do you venerate them?
>>535906292>prots venerate MarySounds awfully like you are worshipping her there. Worshiping Mary is wrong
>>535906461We see you do it! It cannot be a lie if it openly done and seen by all. You just saying you are not doing it does not mean you are not doing it.
>>535906529The reason we hate you is because none of you ever have any intent of actually discussing anything in good faith, as exemplified in this post. You protniggers may as well be White ISIS.
>>535904156K
>>535906611In this case good faith means what? Just mindlessly accepting that you don't worship mary then watch you turn around and do that very thing?
>>535906457Do you venerate Mary at all? Do you hold any significance in your mind for the one that literally housed God?What you prots are doing is just diminishing Christ, if Mary was just a person, then the ark of the covenant was just a wooden box. Do you see now?
>>535906611Funny how I don't hate any of you I just know idiolatry is wrong.
>>535904156t.kikeAuschwitz is in Poland
>>535904156Yes I can! It's>BAŁWOCHWALSTWOwhere's the 'Poland' in that ?Got them Orthodox fug from Russia probably. So much win. Kthxbye
>>535906694No. You are just denying the divinity of Christ. And that's heresy. That is the issue Catholics have with you.
>>535904156That's nice OP, always good to see some hope. Wish you the best over there buddy.
>>535904156Yes you can you dumb fucking nigger.
>>535906689No where in the bible does it say "think about mary and adulate and worship her". Knowing you are not supposed to worship mary does not at all in any way equate hating or denying.
>>535904156>IDOLATRY
>>535906600You see us treat Mary with respect and venerate her for literally housing our Lord? Thanks bro. Wish you did too. Denying Mary is literally blaspheming Christ.
>>535906760LOL I have done no such thing? I now see why warfare is the only way to deal with you fucks
>>535906826It's a good thing we don't worship her then. Again, all you can do is lie.
>>535906542That's the problem though. God had the asheras destroyed that people were using to channel worship through. It's clearly banned by the doctrines to use focuses, talismans, and idols.
>>535906088>muh dulia, muh latriaGreek cope is still cope.It looks, acts, sounds, and smells like idolatry.
>>535906655Good faith means listening to what the other side is actually saying and not willfully misrepresenting and lying about it, as you continue to do in posts like >>535906826
>>535906760>You are just denying the divinity of Christ.YOU ARE MAKING THAT UPJust stop worshipping mary, how hard is it?
>>535906865You are denying Christ by denying the new ark of the Covenant. That is heresy. You need to be converted to Christianity.
>>535905542god I want to be this schizophrenic one day
>>535906887You can say it looks like whatever you want, it still isn't. Your intellectual inability to understand something doesn't mean that thing is wrong.
>>535906853By worshipping mary you are denying Christ by doing the very thing he told you not to do!
>>535905199>just knowHow do you know?Lemme take a wild guess masoretic aka jewish translators texts "Queen of Heaven" instead of proper Septuaginta "goddess of sky".
>>535906904You aren't even Christian bro. You deny the one who housed our God and her holiness. There is a reason the Catholic church branded you as heretics.
>>535906894I have no lied about anything. YOu do what you do even if you don't see it. WE ALL DO.
>>535906945>You are denying Christ bNo I am fucking not. YOu need brutal violence.
>>535906760>protestants deny the divinity of ChristNews to me. Why am I worshiping the Son of God as our redeemer and mediator?
>>535907014We don't worship Mary. You refuse to stop insinuating that we do. You are compulsively lying.
>>535904156Idolatry means worshiping idols of nonexistent beings. It isn't banning depiction of saints we had a fucking schism over this shit.
>>535904156Ahmed has a vpn
>>535906999Okay fine, I am whatever you say I am mary worshipping scumbag. Take your brown coded bullshit and choke to fucking death on it.
>>535907052You need Christ's love and understanding.You don't sound even remotely Christian. Once again the Catholic church was correct about people like you. Just consumed by hatred. This is why we are the one true Church and you are a bullshit little cult experiment.
>>535907071WE WATCH YOU DO IT! YOU ARE ALL ATTACKING ME FOR NOT WORSHIPPING HER!!!!!
>>535906853Nobody gives a fuck that you respect Mary. The issue is that you can't talk to god, except indirectly, by praying to Mary or Joseph, or other Saints. I know the priest told you not to read your Bible, but you should. That shit ain't in there.
>>535904156Based. Keep kvetching kike
>>535907127No I need to cave your fucking skull in! Mary worshipping fucking monster!@
>>535907141We don't worship Mary.
>>535907127>This is why we are the one true ChurchYet no where in the fucking bible does it tell use we have to do what you demand, take all of your pagan ritual bullshit and choke to death on it while you worship mary you mother fucking scumbag.
>>535907170Like I said, White ISIS.
>>535906999Pretty sure it was over transubstantiation and papal authority
>>535907170What you need is to actually be converted to accept Christ. What you have been raised in is a cult. Look at what it has turned you into. You are acting demonic.
>>535907097you're retardedidolatry is worshipping any idolsthose who worship mary or jesus are no better than those who worship odinworshipping anyone else but The One who created you is a sure way to end up in hell
>>535906130>the only thing that matters is the relationship with God.And who better to smooth out this relationship than his Holy Perpetual Virgin Mother?And His Holy Saints one whom have given Their Life often in excruciating pain for Him.
>>535907250You are fucking enemies that need to be removed CLEARLY how fucking dare you act like a fucking monster then bitch and moan when you get treated like one you faggot!
kek fucking catholics and their mental gymnastics
>>535906457>fellow believers.That you are not you judaizing bastards.
>>535907278Denying the Trinity is considered a heresy in mainstream Christianity because it contradicts the fundamental belief that God exists as one being in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. This doctrine is central to Christian faith and distinguishes it from other monotheistic religions.
>>535907268Or gee I don;'t konw maybe you mother fuckers can not attack people that are supposed to be your allies simply because we won['t worship mary with you. PUT YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH ON THE CURB
>>535907326Are you acting Christlike right now? Or like someone under profound demonic influence?
>>535907378I hope you purge yourself of that demonic influence within you some day and see God's light.
>>535907287All our sins are against God, and we are clearly told to make amends with the ones we wrong, not try to get favor back from others related to who we wronged. It is proper to confess and seek forgiveness directly
>>535907378We don't worship Mary.
>>535907342Okay then you are our fucking enemies. Choke to death on you next meal you mary worshipping brown garbage.
>>535907390FUCK YOU! You run your fucking mouth attacking
>>535907424By worshippig mary and doing pagan rituals? NO FUCK YOU, you don't get to attack me and just expect me to deal with it. DIE
>>535904156i denounce abraham and all the retarded religions spawned from him
>>535907506We don't worship Mary
>>535907444Calm down and act like the better Christian you think you are
>>535907425Oh no no you have to go though their systems and bullshit or none it counts, You cannot talk to god unless you do it though some priest faggot perform pagan rituals and also worship mary, just like it says in the bibile. OH RIGHT IT DOES NOT!!!!!
>>535907566You fucking cunts started this I WISH I could finish it. YOU MOTHER FUCKERS!!!
>>535904156why are they trying to beat my hometown Haskovo
>Catholics: calm, holding actual conversations, working on conversation of the lost, acting out of brotherly love>prot anon: FUCK YOU I HATE YOU FUCKING DIE MOUTH TO CURB REEEEEEEEEEHmmm very interesting.
>>535907570St. Ignatius of Antioch (disciple of the Apostle John)'s Epistle to the Smyrnaeans, ch. 7-9, ca. 107 AD:>They abstain from theEucharistand fromprayer, because they confess not theEucharistto be the flesh of our SaviourJesus Christ, which suffered for oursins, and which theFather, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift ofGod, incur death in the midst of their disputes. But it were better for them to treat it with respect, that they also might rise again. It is fitting, therefore, that you should keep aloof from suchpersons, and not to speak of them either in private or in public, but to give heed to theprophets, and above all, to theGospel, in which the passion [of Christ] has been revealed to us, and the resurrection has been fullyproved. But avoid all divisions, as the beginning ofevils.>See that you all follow thebishop, even asJesus Christdoes theFather, and thepresbyteryas you would theapostles; and reverence thedeacons, as being the institution ofGod. Let no man do anything connected with theChurchwithout thebishop. Let that be deemed a properEucharist, which is [administered] either by thebishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever thebishopshall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, whereverJesus Christis, there is theCatholicChurch. It is not lawful without thebishopeither tobaptizeor to celebrate alove-feast; but whatsoever he shall approve of, that is also pleasing toGod, so that everything that is done may be secure and valid.>Moreover, it is in accordance with reason that we should return to soberness [of conduct], and, while yet we have opportunity, exercise repentance towards God. It is well to reverence both God and thebishop. He who honours thebishophas been honoured byGod; he who does anything without theknowledgeof thebishop, does [in reality] serve thedevil.
>>535906904>Just stop worshipping Not worshipping but Most HonoringAnd its Holy Perpetual Virgin Mary with capital letters especially Her Name.What would Christianity be without Her? Just a discount version judaism for goys. Not unlike pisslam. What would that make you ? A filthy heretic. No wonder you're "protesting". Not unlike you know who with pride and falling from Heaven.Oh my God! I just realized protestantism is satanic - it's literally in the name!!!!
>>535907636That isn't Mary and it's also actually the mother of the guy who commissioned it. Seems there was some wincestuous fantasy going on or something, lol. Still a very impressive statue.
>>535907114>AhmedI think it's Chaim
>>535907691>Catholics: calm, holding actual conversations,That did not fucking happen you attacked me and claimed I was the lowest and deserved damnation for not marching in lock step with you. FUCK YOU
>>535907141>WE WATCH YOU DO IT!You need an eye exam! Either that or you're plain retarded.
>>535907811I will continue to express distain for your heretical "church" that leads people astray, but I still think you are a redeemable person who deserves God's love.
>>535904156do Christians know why god honored the virgin marry or is their excuse just "she's the mother of god" ?
We cannot be fellower followers of Christ unless you worship mary bow before or priests and perform rituals. It becomes clear why we had to kill each other in the past, you fucking monsters are unreasonable.
>>535907887>if you don't worship mary and perform rituals you are being led astray.That is just bullshit.
>>535907170>No I need to cave your fucking skull in!>Mary worshipping fucking monster!@HA Ha! Gotcha kike!Cope and seethe!
>>535904156I hate polish people so much
>>535907869This entire thread is you fucking scumbags getting mad because we know we are not supposed to worship mary. You attack me because I won't do it no matter how you word it, you tell me I am the worst for not doing what you want.
>>535907993It's a good thing I am not asking you to worship Mary then. Only God.
>>535907887What parts are heretical? You can ignore any of the ones that accept the gays, we're all aware those branches are infected
>>535908072Which denomination are you asking about in particular?There are too many protestant denominations to even begin, you need to be more specific.
>>535908068>Only God.Well clearly I cannot even do that and I deny him apparently if i don;t do exactly what you fucks demand i do with mary. It is fucking outlandish.
>>535908142Let's go anglican. I'm more familiar. Really anglican catholic, but that's not as well known
>>535908166I am saying Mary was a holy woman chosen by God to carry out the very important task of housing his son Christ and deserves respect for that alone. Nothing more. >God was very specific about every exact detail of the ark (Ex 25-30). It was a place where God himself would dwell (Ex 25:8). God wanted his words—inscribed on stone—housed in a perfect container covered with pure gold within and without. How much more would he want his Word—Jesus—to have a perfect dwelling place! If the only begotten Son were to take up residence in the womb of a human girl, would he not make her flawless?Now do you see where I am coming from?
>>535907425>All our sins are against God, and we are clearly told to make amends with the ones we wrong, And that's what we're doing>not try to get favor back from others related to who we wronged. What do you mean back? And where does it say we can not pray for intercession?Did Christ not listen to His Holy Perpetual Virgin on Cana to perform miracles even if He did not considered rhem necessary?>It is proper to confess and seek forgiveness directly.That's pride ! It is proper to show humbleness and start at the bottom and work your way at the top. Not unlike real life! You don't speak directly to the President or the Commander in Chief you start with your local councilor / Corporal and then go step by step. But you're too proud and arrogant!
>>535908402Doesn't catholicism also demand believe that she was sinless at birth, and sinless up to the point of Jesus' birth? Protected from temptation or something like that. I never got that or thought it necessary when such a birth would be so different from what humans go through, at least spirituality
>>535908517>But you're too proud and arrogant!Just read what you have been posting you brown fuck.
>>535908517>But you're too proud and arrogant!God sent his son to reach us directly. It is not arrogance to confess directly as well. The prayer Jesus taught his disciples was to the Father directly, and clearly a template for how we should pray
>>535908215An Anglo-Catholic is very similar to a traditionalist CatholicBut it's a church started because a King wanted a divorce. A church almost more English than Christian. Broken into many subsects, all of their Communion remains independent of each other depending on the churchmanship of the missionaries who went there, the different national churches might be Anglo-Catholic or Evangelical or even liberal. There is no central authority in the Anglican church. Each of the national churches are independent provinces. A church slowly disintegrating since the 19th century. While the Catholic church may also have it's subsects (SSPX, Sedes, etc.) we do not view it as a virtue as Anglicans seem to.
>>535907444>Okay then you are our fucking enemiesHa ha! That must have hurt! Showing your true colors! Wolf in sheeps clothing.>Choke to death on you next meal you worshipping brown garbage."You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."Perfect! Just perfect! The words of God Incarnate strike straight at your evil heart and burns it to ashes!>Holy Perpetual Virgin MaryFtfy>WorshippingLiar
>>535908978You want to attack and belittle and demean, you should expect violence and the devil has nothing to do with that brown trash.
>>535908599When Gabriel said Mary was "full of grace", a more accurate rendering regarding the substance of these words would be something like "Hail, Mary, who has attained the fullness of grace". The Greek word "kecharitomene" used here is a perfect passive participle which carries the direct insinuation that Mary literally attained the fullness of grace and thus /could not/ sin. To possess the literal fullness of God's grace leaves no room for sin.
>>535905443imagine being forced to listen to the billions of anguished prayers across centuries from the planet that killed your son. I sincerely hope this 2000 year old desert tribe woman is at rest waiting for resurrection like the rest of us will be
>>535907506>> I hope you purge yourself of that demonic influence within you some day and see God's light.>Nooo, why do u attack me?Bc you're a liar and a murderer just like your father the devil whose will you do and whom you worship!
>>535909056I killed myself with an intentional fentanyl overdose in 2019 and know what the "other side" is like from my own lived experience. Time doesn't work the same way there that it does here, it operates entirely outside of it in a way that literally cannot be articulated to someone who hasn't experienced it firsthand.
>>535909265>I killed myselfNo you didn't, being unconscious is not the same as being dead, retard. Death occurs when your brain ceases all activity.
>>535907599>You fucking cunts started this I WISH I could finish it. YOU MOTHER FUCKERS!!!Nah! You started it and we'll finish it with Christ and His Holly Virgin Mothers help together with all The Holy Saints and Holy Angels. And we'll begin with your masters - the jews! Christ will finish your father and his angels last!
didn't even know there's such a spergout for protcucks about mary lol.
>>535907691>>Catholics: calm, holding actual conversations, working on conversation of the lost, acting out of brotherly love>>prot anon: FUCK YOU I HATE YOU FUCKING DIE MOUTH TO CURB REEEEEEEEEE>Hmmm very interesting.By their fruits ye shall know them
>>535904230Lmao xD
>>535904443Hebrew =/= Jewish
>>535909427I looked down at my own yellow eyed, foaming at the mouth corpse and accurately recalled everything that happened and every word said in the moment of my body being discovered. I was without oxygen for over 20 minutes before anyone even found me.
>>535909464As if the purpose of faith is to smite your enemies you brown animal.
>>535909042I think that interpretation is stretched pretty far, and has some strange implications. Like if she was sinless, did she even need saving? If humans could attain this, why send his Son to save all humanity? We've seen past prophets who had made mistakes, but we're still taken up into heaven directly. A truly sinless human other than Jesus bothers me
>>535904156Pooland is pagan now
>>535909513Again.Read your own words, like a typical low IQ brownoid you have zero self awareness.
>>535904156>"fuck idolatry"fuck christianity and judaism and muslim
>>535904156Based Goddess Mama protecting Poles and other White peoples from Jews, sinners, and shitskins.
>>535909669Instead of writing a thesis for you, I'll redirect you to our authoritative apologetic. It's one of the most discussed topics in all of Catholicism, everything that needs to be said regarding it has already been said much more eloquently by men much more intelligent than I could hope to be. Every aspect of it has many 600 page long insanely autistic and scholastic tracts that discuss it to its absolute most extant logical endpoint. I really doubt I'd be able to express it to you better than the literature we already have, unfortunately.
>>535909635Yeah, people have survived a long time without oxygen, it's still not the same as being dead. That's why they have to disconnect people with dead brains, even if they're still technically "alive" and breathing with help of machines.
>>535909865There have been many cases of people suddenly returning from zero detectable brain activity if that's the sole metric you're going to frame this around. They were declared brain dead because there was no activity at all and came back anyway.
>>535904156RANGE BAN ALL INDIAN SHITSTAINS
>>535909857And I wish I could give back the equally autistic theological responses I know have been going back and forth through history. Fortunately I don't need to believe or disbelieve in the sinlessness of Mary to know Chrst is King
>>535906016>real life Christians are not anti-semiticand that's the problem
>>535908045>This entire thread is you fucking scumbags getting mad because Except we don't. It is you who's frothing at the mouth like a demon possesed.>we know we are not supposedAsking again: how do you know?> to worship Again : we don't.>Mary. Do you think Christ, God incarnate would be offended / furious at you for refereing to His Holy Virgin Mother in lowercase? And as such take action such as uhm...I don't know refuse to forgive your sins and pour his Holy Righteous Divine Wrath upon you?>You attack me because I won't do it no matter how you word it, you tell me I am the worst for not doing what you want.But anon you are the worst among men. It says so in the Holy Bible - you are the son of the devil and as such you are a liar a murderer and filled with pride just like your father whose bidding you do. You are the one doing the attacking and lying about it too.Coward!
>>535910278Brown fuck hiding in another country calls me a coward.
>>535910278>furious at you for refereing to His Holy Virgin Mother in lowercase?That is worship. You are doing the very thing you claim to not be doing.
>>535904156>The biggest criticism Protestants have against Catholics is that they aren't Jewish enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Lu8VIncmcThere is only one God and his name is Jesus Christ.Only God Jesus Christ loves me and saves me.I love only my God Jesus Christ.
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>>535908627>Just read what you have been posting I did, you should too. >you brown fuck.How jewish of you. Also you're a liar. I'm not brown. Not that it would matter.
>>535904156> jesus raped his own mother and humiliated an innocent carpenter so his mother could give birth to himself and then he could kill himself to resurrect
We don't perform the act of showing profound reverence, honor, and adoration to person.We don't do that at all.
>>535908749>God sent his son to reach us directly.Son with capital letter.And no not really. Son gave the power to forgive sins to the Holy ApostlesTruly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.And yes it is arrogance. Read whay I wrote and don't dismiss it like an arrogant fool. Be wise and humble!
>>535911655Right, we venerate Mary who is the very Mother of God, the new Ark of the Covenant, the literal replacement of both Eve and satan as the greatest and most pure of all God's creation into eternity, the woman of the apocalypse, the very emodiment of sacred motherhood.>inb4 JesusJesus wasn't created.
>>535911985> sexless pregnancybwahahaha
>>535909041>You want to attack and belittle and demean, you should expect violence and the devil has nothing to do with that brown trash. You arr projecting - it's a form of lie! Your father has everything to do with that you liar and murderer. Proud too just like him.Follow your own advice - expect it since you are the one perpetrating it.PS Truth hurts! Especiallya liar like you.
>>535911627You poop on the street
>>535904156> virginIt will attract Indians and Muslims like flies.
>>535904156>muh huge statueCommunism still runs deep doesn't it.
>>535909663> One of the purposes of Faith is to smite enemies of the Faith as they impeed Salvation."I have come to bring sword in the world"Remember that>you brown animal.Ok son, break it up with the projection. Joke's getting old even if your seething is epic.
>>535911627Pretty mild and actually highly effective as far as ritualistic magic goes. But your dumb ass probably doesn't believe in magic either, so maybe not the best point to make.
>>535909740>Read your own words, Don't need to. I know them. After all I wrote them>like typical low IQ brownoid you have zero self awareness.That would be you and projecting won't change facts irrespective of how long you keep repeating it. You are sowing the wind you will reap the storm.The Church of Christ and His Holy Saints especially His Most Honored Holy Perpetual Virgin Mother will prevail and you can't do anything about it but seethe impotently. We will stand together before Christ Almighty God Incarnate Judge of All That It Is and you will know I speak The Truth.Well, you do know, but you can't stand it bc you are a liar like your father the devil and you can not stand The Truth and it burns you, hence your impotent screeching.
>>535912342>nooo you can’t have nice uplifting things goyim it has to be shitskin jewish demoralization Fuck off
>>535912316BVLLthera already ran her through though
>>535912935>using celsus who used a jew as his source as your sourceNot like his work was torn apart in autistically exhaustive polemic almost 1,800 years ago or anything
>>535910635>Brown fuck hiding in another country calls me a coward.Well if you are, you are.If it looks like a duck walks like a duck quacks like duck, chances are it's a duck.>>535910715>That is worship.That is Basic Respect which is granted to everybody.Holy Perpetual Virgin Mother of God is Most Honored. As She should be for it is prerequisite in adressing God.
>>535912864Mary is not uplifting, I am not some Polish history expert but surely they have some warrior that can actually inspire some virtue in people, Christian statues can only inspire meekness.
>>535913147Don't you have a biological mother?
>>535904156get lost, kike
>>535910768Catholics aren't jewish neither are Ortodox. Protestants are demonic heretics. It's in the name. They are. protesting God His Holy Mother His Holy Saints and His Holy Angels.So basicallu they are rebelious pride filled liars and murderors.
>>535911655>showing profound reverence, honor, and adorationSo Most Honoring
>>535912037>sexless pregnancyMakes the most sense when God wants to Incarnate>bwahahahaFools laugh at what they can't comprehend
>>535904156>Repent.
>>535913215Don't you have a biological father?
>>535913689Yes, my biological father and my Creator. You also didn't actually answer how a mother isn't uplifting.
>>535904156> muh mother of godCatholshits are polytheists, just like jeets.
>>535914094We're in complete agreement that there is only one God, and that God alone is deserving of worship/adoration (Latria), and that Jesus is the sole mediator between God and man. The entire protnigger "argument" relies entirely on willfully misrepresenting what we actually believe.
>>535904230no instead you die for them in forever wars lmao
>>535904156>IDOLATRYkill yourself lampshade
>>535913908The society is already too feminine as is, and this is a statue promoting femininity. I have all the love and respect for my mother, I can't say the same for my father though we have good relations.
>>535913614tell us about your scroll worship rabbiJewish-History-Jewish Religion-The-Weight-of-Three-Thousand-Years-1997.pdfhttps://buzzheavier.com/2j4f8s3xqx5y
>>535913347I'm calling out Proticucks for their obsession with the most Jewish rules of the bible, including calling everything Idolatry.
>>535914757God is the divine masculine. God literally blessed Phinehas for murdering a mixed race couple because of the circumstances surrounding it. I would hope that the 1,500+ years of Christian rule demonstrates to you that what you're insinuating is innate to it is not. You'll note that every single problem we are faced with today can be traced either to the atheistic judeo-masonic French Revolution in the West, and the atheistic judeo-bolshevik revolution in the East. Our problems began exactly when we abandoned God, not when we followed Him.
>>535914219>We're in complete agreement that there is only one God, and that God alone is deserving of worship/adoration (Latria), and that Jesus is the sole mediator between God and man.Yet this very thread shows that is not the case.
>>535915471No it doesn't, you just keep yelling your own headcanon of what you insist we believe that we actually don't believe to yourself and wishing extreme violence on followers of Christ.
>>535904156There a very thin line when it comes to idolatry. You can admire the Holy mother of Christ without worshiping her, but you can't expect everyone to have a high enough IQ to make that distinction, which is precisely why the bible warns against idolatry. Even if it's a statue of Jesus, you can be guilty of idolatry if you pray to the statue rather than to Jesus directly. If you see a statue of Mary and pray to Jesus, then there is no idolatry.
>>535904156Why do you people pretend to be Christian here?
>>535915699To say we can't pray to the saints is somewhat of a misconception because to "pray" historically just meant to "ask". We essentially pray to the saints to pray for us in this sense. Directing Latria (prayer of worship/adoration) to the saints is erroneous, but directing Dulia (prayer of intercession/veneration/devotion) to them is not. It is completely correct to say we pray to the saints in this regard.
>>535904156a very jewish thing to say
>>535915054Christianity fell out of grace because of the rising intellectualism and that's it. You will not bring it back with your statues.>God is the divine masculineThe OP posted a statue of Mary and we are talking about Mary. Don't walk me around.
>>535915659You have all insisted I reject God because I won't do what you say regarding mary. You would not accept common ground.
>>535904156"Christians" getting angry about something like that has to be the most obvious Jewish trick there is. Who the hell cares?
>>535916143>because of the rising intellectualismYou mean the rising moral relativism and luciferianism. The Catholic Church literally built and funded nearly the entire university system of Europe. Freemasons parasitized all of its achievements and went "I made this", falsely claiming that they were le totally enlightened freethinkers of LOGIC and REASON. Every single lie about our medieval ancestors comes from these French Revolution freemasons who created all of this propaganda specifically to disingenuously and sinisterly slander our Christian ancestors and the Church. Asha Logos (whose entire channel/substack/xitter etc is one of the best gold mines out there) has two excellent videos on the conspiratorial judeo-mason French Revolution and they should be mandatory watching. https://youtu.be/aR1Rn9mK9iohttps://youtu.be/KFZ-uWkCd5UThese two are on the archive channel that reuploads lolocausted videos from the main. The main channel ishttps://youtube.com/@ashalogos9221Every one of his videos is more than worth watching even individually, but his two about the FR are foundational. You'll enjoy these very much even if you aren't Christian.
>>535916439I'll watch it.
based white woman statue>inb4 its supposed to be a jewessnot a chancejews would have looked even more jewish back then, especially without gutter european genes to piggyback off of that christcucks were happy to provide them.
>>535904156you tried
>>535904943The catholic future is being flooded with niggers
>>535904943>why you hate His momShe is an idol. You pray to her instead of God the Father. And most depictions of her are actually Sophia of the gnostic belief.
>>535904156Matthew 12:46-50 46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
>>535905468>You need to view Mary as the new dwelling place of God. To deny this would be to deny Christ.This is completely unbiblical.
>>535904156>No tits or assFUCKING WOKE SHIT
>>535917258Is praying for other people alive on earth bad?
>>535916593Your willingness to entertain me in good faith doesn't go unappreciated brother.
>>535904387Clearly not cause this pollack thinks Poland is spelled with an I, a D, a T, an R, and a Y.
>>535904943nice cult bro
>>535917349>Jesus did not dwell in her wombI'm sorry cunt, but out of all the women in the world God picked Mary.She's simply better than your mother.It's not about worshiping her as a goddess, but for Christ's sake people who are handpicked by God Himself are simply more important. There's no fucking denying it.Maybe if you didn't seethe about it and instead devoted your life to assisting others instead of trying to assist God who does not need you, you could actually be good enough to be handpicked by God.
>>535917713>alivethats the important part. only Jesus is alive in heaven, the saints are asleep waiting for the resurrection.
>>535905296>Dulia =/= Latriatalmudic pilpul"queen of heaven" worship is condemned by God as idolatry.
>>535918121Soul sleep isn't biblical and has never been orthodox Christian belief, it is protestant reinterpretation. >>535918172You can say it's worship all you want, it isn't going to make it true.
>>535906894>Good faith means listening to what the other side is actually sayingI have yet to see you providing scripture to back your beliefs up.
>>535905412Blow your brains out subhuman pedotranny mutt
>>535905688>when people ask Mary or the other saints to intercede it's just for mental comfort and reassuranceis Jesus not good enough for you?
>>535918402Why did God create an entire army of angels? Is He not good enough on His own?
>>535905443>and everyone in Heaven can see from above what's going on here on earth,No, they absolutely can't. Jesus explicitly said in Matthew 22 that in heaven you become a robot who can only worship God. This is literally the jewish understanding of heaven as well according to the rabbis.
>>535906193>The Bible didn’t exist until the Catholic Church put it together.thats bullshit and you know it. the scriptures and septuagint were widely spread until the persecution and burning of texts.
>>535904156THAT COULD BE A STATUE TO GANESHA OR HANUMAN INSTEAD
>>535918470The biblical canon you use (minus the seven books which were always accepted as authoritative you ablated) was compiled by the Catholic Church. Let me reframe: was the Catholic Church that compiled our authoritative biblical canon the One True Church? If not, what church was, and why do you use the Catholic canon?
>>535906470>Soul sleep isn't biblicalread the Old Testament retard.its always mentioned then when people died they went to sleep with their ancestors.even Jesus said Lazarus fell asleep when he actually died.
>>535918571Yes because all souls went to Sheol to await their redemption and ascent to heaven by Christ. Why are you using the OT for your understanding of heaven and not Jesus who literally said "Amen. Truly I tell you, on this day you will be with Me in paradise."?
>>535906760>>535906945just admit that you need a pantheon of gods and drop the whole christian larp. you are a pagan.
>>535909042if Mary was sinless God could make anybody sinless and the atonement of Jesus on the cross would mean nothing.Mary being sinless defeats the purpose of Jesus and thus is a blasphemy.
>>535909857and all of that autistic writing is made useless by the single fact that Mary offered a sin offering after she gave birth.
Based
>>535909857>any 600 page long insanely autistic and scholastic tractsyou mean like the talmud?
>>535914219sure, Israel also had the temple...and some other gods on the side.maybe read about it. what applied to Israel in regard to spiritual adultery applies to the Church today.having a side piece with another "deity" is adultery to God.
>>535904156The matriarchy just keeps chugging along.
>>535919031No, like any intellectual discussion. Have you never read the classics?
>>535905412Based lewd Diana appreciator.
>>535917807I am not in my teens anymore I hardly want to argue in bad faith although I am not impressed by Christianity (I respect Christ though). I do not like dogma. Regardless any wise man should entertain discussions with sides he doesn't agree with and I know even Christians did that and what we have left of Rome we have thanks to them making commentaries on it.
>>535919118>the classicsWe're not discussing the classics though, we're discussing autistic scholarly tractates of the church fathers, which detail the theology of the church, aka the roman talmud.
>>535916034what if it turns out that "saint" you asked for a prayer turn out to be working for the other side?what if you are falling for doctrines of demons?
>>535918358Hagfag Christcuck is BTFO
>>535915054>atheistic judeo-masonic French Revolution in the West, and the atheistic judeo-bolshevik revolution in the Eastboth were initiated by the Jesuits who are agents of the Vatican who are making mary a deity. its directly connected back to idolatry, because the Jesuits actually practice kabbalah, jewish satanism.
>>535918230>Soul sleep isn't biblicalaccording to Jesus it is, see Lazarus. Jesus said he is asleep when he was dead.>You can say it's worship all you want, it isn't going to make it true.you dont decide what worship is and what is not, that lies with God. do not tempt the Lord.
>>535918446we are not to worship angels either or pray to them. totally useless argument.
>>535919223The entire aspect that makes a saint a saint is that they are confirmed to be in heaven. Even entertaining this aspect for a moment, it'd be no different than you receiving the Eucharist from a covertly apostate/satanist priest or whatever. The enemy has no power over what is holy and cannot spiritually desecrate it, it is impossible. To believe otherwise is to believe that satan is more powerful than God, when we know that demons are only ever as powerful as God permits and are entirely subject to His will.
>>535909587>Alien =/= Extraterrestrial>Prisoner =/= Convict>Retard =/= FilipinoThe least potent cope of a Christcuck.
>>535919470You didn't answer why God created the army of angels which was the entire point being made.
>>535918562>(minus the seven books which were always accepted as authoritative you ablated)lol, you are just making shit up now. they were never fully accepted until the RCC doubled down in Trent.the deuterocanon was never fully accepted as canon.
>>535904156You cant spell OP without FAGGOT
>>535918670>"Amen. Truly I tell you, on this day you will be with Me in paradise."?because Jesus was in paradise on that day. he went to tartarus where the fallen angels are imprisoned.this totally defeats your own argument. the thief will be in paradise because he will sleep and see the resurrection immediately and enter paradise. its today for him alone.
>>535919562You accuse me of making this up and meanwhile we can directly observe that these books were accepted and used by the earliest Christians.The entire reason you reject the deuterocanon (which Luthifer actually accepted as legitimate moral authority) is because Scottish publishers in the 1800s wanted to save space and, seeing that Luthifer had set them aside into their own category as the "apocrypha", they thought these books were actually unimportant and just decided to remove them entirely. That is the entire reason you don't read them.
>>535919490>makes a saint a saint is that they are confirmed to be in heavenyes, and that why the church, as in fallible men, have to canonize saints, right? totally fucking bonkers.only Jesus knows his disciples, we dont.so again, what makes you so sure there isnt a demon behind someone you pray to in the supernatural.
>>535919223Christ is the only intercessor between man and God. We pray to him and him alone. Anyone who "asks" a saint to pray for them and just leaves it at that without praying to Jesus afterwards is already guilty of crossing a line, so it really doesn't matter if that saint were a demon or even a real person.
>>535919532because he wanted to, what stupid argument is this?this makes it in no way permissible to pray to mary or saints.
>>535919642>he went to tartarus where the fallen angelsNo He didn't, He went to Sheol. I've told you all of this before and it's clear that you just refuse to listen to anyone correcting you on your erroneous beliefs. You're on here practically 24/7/365 and learn absolutely nothing from it, you just repeat your heretical errors to yourself ad nauseam with absolutely no intent on ever changing your mind when proven incorrect. That is fanaticism, not faith.
>>535919717I read more apocrypha than you could ever imagine.your entire argument falls apart where Peter and Jude reference the Book of Enoch yet you dont accept is it as scripture.go get rid of demons with fish livers I guess.
>>535919811I see you starting to connect the dots on this now, you're close. God didn't have to create an army of angels but did anyway because He could. We don't have to pray to the saints, but we do anyway because we can. There is literally nothing in the bible that forbids this practice, your entire argument is hinged upon labeling the asking the saints for the exact same intercessory power that the prayer of those alive on earth carries as necromancy which it very clearly is not.
>>535905296>we don't do the thing we just do something that looks exactly like the thing but call it something elseevery papist is a professional gaslighter
>>535919835>you just repeat your heretical errorssola scriptura is not heretical since its the Word of God which Jesus come into the flesh. saying otherwise make you blaspheme God the Son (which can be forgiven).>no intent on ever changing your mind when proven incorrectI have yet to see you quote a single bible verse that supports your position. you solely rely on church traditions. you dont even know about the soul sleep that is all throughout the scipture and affirmed by Jesus himself.maybe read the bible instead of rely on traditions of man.>You're on here practically 24/7/365I didnt post for like two weeks, we just meet again and again in the same thread condemning blasphemous teachings and you defending these blasphemies like a soldier of satan himself.
>>535919975>but we do anyway because we canbut you have zero permission to do so from the scripture itself.we are not to consult the dead or spirits. its against Gods law. he gave that law for a reason.didnt work for Saul and wont work for you either.
My fellow Roman Catholics do not disdain the rebuke of the Lord https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2010-13&version=ESVFor I do not want you to be unaware, brothers,[a] that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 and all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, with most of them God was not pleased, for they were overthrown[b] in the wilderness.6 Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play.” 8 We must not indulge in sexual immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. 9 We must not put Christ[c] to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, 10 nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer.14 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry.I was raised in Roman Catholicism but turned away from it when I realized in Scripture there is no exception for statues of Mary or Christ or any other saint it does not exist in Scripture it is not good Doctrine.
>>535919975>There is literally nothing in the bible that forbids this practiceyep, that is when you dont read your bible and rely on passed down traditions alone.Deut 18:10“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.Lev 13:31“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the LORD your God.Lev 20:6“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.you stand condemned and I implore you to repent of your ways and turn back to God.
>>535919975>>535920465Deut 18 didnt correctly copy and paste.10There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering,e anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer 11or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, 12for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord.
Every lesson in scripture points against it, statues are idolatry period there is no wiggling out of it, do not be a child of lawlessness.
veneration isn't worship
>>535920827Before He had created the world, He created the law; He prepared the garden of Eden for the righteous, that they might eat and delight themselves with the fruit of the tree; because they would have practised in their lives the doctrine of the law in this world, and have maintained the commandments: (but) he prepared Gehinnam for the wicked, which is like the sharp, consuming sword of two edges; in the midst of it He hath prepared flakes of fire and burning coals for the judgment of the wicked who rebelled in their life against the doctrine of the law. To serve the law is better than (to eat of) the fruit of the tree of life, (the law) which the Word of the Lord prepared, that man in keeping it might continue, and walk in the paths of the way of life in the world to come.
>>535921263A scripture makes no distinction
>>535917258Mudshit talking point lol its weird how someone's anonymity could be blown just by chosen topics and the words they choose to write in their posts
>>535919414You're not God dumb ass nigger lol what is even your IQ that would go and make such an idiotic statement. You have to be some shade of brown as the arrogance levels are through the roof
Also one more thing Paul that even if a single Christian was offended by something that could be perceived as idolatry you should not do it, Catholics you caused so much offense you created the split in Christianity in such a thing can only be caused by The LordThe law above me is Jesus Christ
>>535921934thats a really good take.
>>535904943When a Protestant dies he goes to hell where he can serve his owner, the synagogue of satan, for eternity.
>>535904156Pooland
>>535917258God the father, what about the son? You don't believe in God's son right zuttslut?
>>535904230>>535904387She's a Galilean. Jesus isn't Jewish i.e. end of Matthew 22 where he uses the Pharisees's own literature to say he isn't the son of David.
