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Why are Croats so much more civilized than Serbs?
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They have a coast so they can chill
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>>535904359
Can we just release some biological weapon and wipe this filth out?
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>>535904359

Lol, lmao even

Technically speaking the Balkans in general are probably within the top 10% of the global population in terms of civilization. Clannish, poor (compared to the West) and doing war often? Sure. But when you remember 80% of the global 8 billion population is basically illiterate disease ridden inbred human waste...yeah Serbs and Romanians and the like are pretty fucking civilized to me.

And Croats arent really any less or any more 'civilized' their government is just better at sycophancy toward globohomo
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>>535904569

Bro this is probably the most high testosterone region of Europe. Poor, yeah, because of communist era remnants, but ffs theyre the only remaining Europoors who still possess that raw masculine brutality (europe used to do a lot of that with romans and vikings but liberalism fucked that up)
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>>535904966
Drinking yourself to an early grave and being poor isnt high t.
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Because turks are culturecidal pests which inflicted generational damage to the mental state of nations under them + serb church is utterly heretical (made by turks, 1st patriarch was the brother of a famous janissary pasha) even compared to other orthodox churches
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>>535904359
They are high-caste khazars from the Ukraine, not Balkaniggers.
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>>535905651

The average dude from that region could probably stab you to death and fall asleep with zero regret afterwards. Thats the level of testosterone we are talking about here
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Good question.
Croats in Sweden are always well behaved while Serbs here have a short fuse and prone to violence.

Still miles better than Albanians who are nothing but corrupt criminal scum.
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>>535904629
>Clannish
Only Kosovo, Albania and Montenegro. No clans in Belgrade nor Zagreb.
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How did Croatia come to cuck Bosnia out of a coastline?
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>>535906312
Larping diaspora syndrome, effects of local rap & turbofolk music
Albos are just animals
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>>535904359
I always hated the map of the Balkans.
So many completely unecessary countries.
At least 1/3 of those shouldnt exist.
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>>535904359
Because Croats are descended from Indians while Serbs are Paki spawns, as a Croatian Indian I am happy I live in beautiful Croatia and not dirty Serbia
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>>535906536
Bosnia isn't a real country first and foremost, it's NATO puppet state designed to import train shitskin terrorists, currently your neighbours.
It's historically our teritorry, especially the coast. Muzzrats can fuck off and die.
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>>535906739

Pretty much
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>>535906729
lmao you're a slave delivery driver that's more related to the gypsy underclass, disgusting subhuman faggot.
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>>535906536
Bosniaks are muslim croats in denial with a new identity since 1993 along with 70% of serbs in bosnia
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>>535905664
>serb church is utterly heretical (made by turks

the first Archbishop of the Serbian Church was given autocephaly by EP Manuel I of Constantinople

>1st patriarch was the brother of a famous janissary pasha

With the raising of the Serbian Archbishopric to a Patriarchate, serious changes in the organization of the church followed. Joanikije II became Patriarch. Bishoprics (Eparchies) were raised to Metropolitanates, and new territories of the Ochrid Archbishopric and Ecumenical Constantinople were added to the jurisdiction of the Serbian church. The Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople had Dušan excommunicated in 1350, although this did not affect the religious organization.[citation needed] Dušan rejected Constantinople's claims to authority over the Serbian Church and contemplated a religious union with the Latin Church.[46] In 1354, Dušan reached out to the Papal States, offering to recognise Pope Innocent VI as the "father of all Christians" and to solidify a union between the Catholic and Serbian Church, in exchange for supporting Dušan in his plans for a military crusade against the Turks. Dušan's plans were welcomed, however such plans never materialized due to his death in 1355.
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>>535906835
Cope you Chetnik Paki, we need another Oluja to get rid of your kind
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>>535906739
Are there any difference at all between a croat and a Bosniak besides the fact that they are muslim?
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>>535906398
How shitty are towns like Niš and Novi Pazar? Sandžak in general?
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>>535906911
Ajde wolt pedala
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>>535906922
Siptari i bosnjooci, sta mislis
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>>535906877
Not legit or autocephalous, dusan was a heretic which drove the already dying byzantines to death faster and allowed the turks to cross the dardanelles. God cursed him to die for his hubris, in reality probably killed by one of thr nobility or greeks


Makarije Sokolović (Serbian Cyrillic: Maкapијe Coкoлoвић; died 1574) was the Patriarch of the Serbian Patriarchate of Peć from 1557 to 1571. He was the first head of the restored Patriarchate of Peć, after its lapse in 1463 that resulted from the Ottoman conquest of Serbia.[1] He is variously reported to have been the brother, nephew, or first cousin of the Ottoman Grand Vizier Mehmed-paša Sokolović, who used his influence in the Ottoman Empire to reestablish the Serbian Patriarchate with its seat in Patriarchate of Peć Monastery.[2] Patriarch Makarije is venerated as a saint in the Serbian Orthodox Church.
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>>535907156
>le serbs let turks in
You can thank hungarian backstabbers that attacked from the north while serbia was fighting turks for turkish success, and they are your kings.
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>>535907156
>first head of the restored Patriarchate of Peć
pilpul. 1st = joanikije II
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>>535904359
german admixture is my guess
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>>535907411
eternal german. also what you told ukranians. they are not slavs they are ubermensch oder so ähnlich
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>>535907319
Empty claim same as dusan had on any greek lands. Not to mention he tried the same with medieval bosnia,dubrovnik and south dalmatia as fights happened there since the time of his grandfather.
Facts stay the same that your church spread wherever there were turks and fortunantly in 2026 we have historical record of orthodox priests taking taxes in the name of the sultan with a janissary guard accompanying them. In historical context it makes sense since all of orthodoxy was practically occupied and was colluding with turks up to some pevel, russia comes into the story in the 18th century and thats when the rebellions start. By that time the ottomans are a slowly dying empire anyway.
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>>535907676
>russia comes into the story in the 18th century and thats when the rebellions start
Rebellions start in 1700s? lel nice ustasa history books
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>>535908092
Oh no, one minor rebellion in todays vojvodina and one minor in hercegovina pre 1700s

Do tell me about the great serb rebellions pre 1700s. A lot of serbs colluded with turks against catholics in forms of morlachs and martologos and your 1991 ethnic borders are exactly on the limit of turkish expansion. As I said we have written documents today in our national archives, the turkish ones, austrian and vatican ones which all confirm the same story. It was not so bad for you to rebel until the fall of the janissary system and if anything todays serbia profited from the early ottoman days on the balkans.
Renember that after your fall the number 1 enemy are catholics and the ultimate goal was rome and later vienna and hence your privileged state compared to catholics in the ottoman empire
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>>535904359
Because serbs are jewish. They never won a war ever. My father was on the front line in the war for independence, he and his brother went to war with each having a knife and old rifle with 10 bullets each. I asked him about the war- he said serbs are cowards. When i asked how many has he killed he pulled up a piece of wood with more than 100 knife scrathes on it , each scratch represented one kill. He explained various killing methods like beheading with a piano string.. he explained how serbs can't fight at all, like very bad at knife fights. They killed a lot of civilians in croatia , burned villages...despicable. he also told me that tuđman and tito were jews and serbs descend from jewish balkan tribes. He donated blood 55 times during the war. He is 75 years old now , never raises his voice and never insults people.
As a kid i seen him beat the shit out of neighbours multiple times. I was a kid during that war, he would come home a few times a year , i can clearly remember the stench that one time when his whole uniform was covered in dry blood and the look in his eyes when he entered the door. He hates serbs from the bottom of his heart.
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>>535908633
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Turkish_War#Serbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migrations_of_the_Serbs#First_migration
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>>535908785
That mans name? Albert Einstent.
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>>535908633
Iz Ćorovićeve "Istorije Srba"
Dakle srpski pisac

U isto vreme, 1661-2. god. stizale su tužbe u Zagreb i na druge strane protiv pravoslavnih vladara, koje su tražile da im se katolici podlože. U Bosni su morali da plate katolici patriarhu 5.000 imperiala; slično su ih pritezali i u turskoj Slavoniji. Na sporu u Sarajevu, gde je patriarhu pozlilo, fratri su pobedili 1669. god., ali ih je to stalo sedam tovara astri. God. 1675. tužili su se katolici i na Porti na postupke pećkog patriarha i njegovih vladika u Bosni i Hercegovini, koji su im ne samo tražili novac, nego ih još naterivali da čitaju evanđelje po njihovom obredu. Na posredovanje Dubrovačke Republike dao im je sultan ferman, koji ih je uzimao u zaštitu od tih i takvih zahteva. To, mislimo, dovoljno pokazuje, kako u radu nije bilo nikakva jedinstva i kako u pregovorima i celoj toj aktivnosti nisu podjednako mislili ni sami pregovarači. Rim je mislio da pridobije Srbe za uniju, a srpske crkvene starešine htele su da prošire svoju vlast i na katolike.

From Ćorović's "History of the Serbs"

At the same time, in 1661-2, lawsuits were filed in Zagreb and elsewhere against Orthodox rulers, demanding that Catholics submit to them. In Bosnia, Catholics had to pay the patriarch 5,000 imperiali; similar demands were made in Turkish Slavonia. In a dispute in Sarajevo, where the patriarch fell ill, the friars won in 1669, but it cost them seven loads of asters. In 1675, Catholics also filed complaints with the Porte against the actions of the Patriarch of Pec and his bishops in Bosnia and Herzegovina, who not only demanded money from them, but also forced them to read the Gospel according to their rite. Through the mediation of the Dubrovnik Republic, the Sultan issued them a firman, which protected them from these and other demands. This, we think, sufficiently demonstrates that there was no unity in the work and that in the negotiations and all that activity
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>>535909032
You proved my point, 18th century and only after eugen of savoy wrecked their asses and burnt mosques all the way to kosovo. And austria fucked up for not chasing and pushing for more goals after that. Also that rebellion is only because serbs rebelled when eugene came, not of your "freedom" loving volation
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>>535906922
Nis is a cozy town
Novi Pazar is a different story
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>>535909093
Idi tamo pevaj i igraj i gledaj u asfalt. Kako ste gazili svoj narod dok ste bježali na traktorima pred našim borcima sramota za vijeke vjekova.Pitaj oca di je bio 91 pičko
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They were part of a civilized empire and not the Ottoman one. You can see the divide between civilization in other parts of Europe ie west vs mongols in Poland. It may not seem like a big deal since "it was long ago" but as it turns out it really is.
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>>535910676
Mi vama hlebom u bosni kad ste bezali al dobro

>Pitaj oca di je bio 91 pičko
Centralna Slavonija 169. motorizovana brigada JNA
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>>535910676
Show me when Croats fuck up a town in Serbia like Serbs did in Vukovar.
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>>535904359
Because Croats were ruled by Germans, whilst Serbs were ruled by Greeks and Turks.
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>>535911202
Vatican direct, not germans.
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>>535911152
Serbia was the agressor they wanted to make "Great Serbia" so jewish like greater israel). Croats defended Croatia and there was no plan to conquer new lands.
You can check for yourself the losses in the siege of Vukovar for both sides. Serbs got so humiliated that they killed and tortured all civilians when they won that battle. After vukovar they were embarrased and demoralized . Bljesak and Oluja were epic military operations, nato came to help serbia during those actions as the croatian progress was too fast and if it wasn't for nato and america, serbia would be no more. By the way, Croatia had an embargo on weapon import in the start of war and relied on brave croatians from diaspora, while serbia had all the weapons from the Yugoslavia. Tanks, figter jets, you name it. We had none of that.Croats barely had any weapons, ammo was very scarce.
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>>535913032
I dont get this great serbia. Ok lets say they got it. How long do you think EU and NATO would let pro russian entity in its heartland??
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>>535904359
Quick rundown, we were under the Austrians while they were under the Ottomans. Ottomans were institutionally and culturally barbaric.
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>>535913158
Nato and america wanted serbia to conquer us , hence the embargo on weapon imports and we basically had no weapons. In Bljesak 500 square kilometers of occupied croatian lands were taken back in 31 hours. Oluja lasted 3 days and croats liberated all occupied croatian land , serbian effort that lasted 5 yearss was crushed in bassically 4 days.it was stopped by nato and america. The plan was probably to let serbs win and then claim brutal aggression and carpet bomb whole greater serbia. But i'm not sure about that. Russia didn't messwith that war, hut it would be a win for communism if serbs won, maybe it would be eassier for nato to subdue great serbia after 5 years of war and depleted military. But the plan was obviously sinister.
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Catholic
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>>535913032
>roats defended Croatia and there was no plan to conquer new lands.
Except for Bosnia
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>>535904359
italian and chill coastline
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There were war songs made on both sides during the war.
Croat Thopson made a song named Čavoglave (epic) it is about defending homeland
Serb songs were morbidly bloodthirsty , when they entered vukovar they sang " Slobodane pošalji nam salate, bit će mesa klat ćemo hrvate"
Rough translation would be" Slobodane (serbian president) send us salad, we will eat flesh of the croat" so much for the moral standing of each nation.
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>>535904359
simple, we like being uncivilized while the croats struggle all their life to fit in western sissy measurements no wonder they are hysterical all the time, like women
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Aren't croats just serbs?
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>>535914804
You bosnians lare a mongrel race made by turkish rapists. You have distinct huge heads square shaped with thin lips and protruded jaw. There 's a saying " dumb like a bosnian" . Bosnian treachery during the war almost came to be repaid.almost
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>>535914726
Croatians made war songs, yet it is a particular Serbian one that everyone on the planet knows.
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cevapcicipunk kino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW6GSa14xXI
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>>535915546
That particular song is very famous, although i don't like folk , it has a noble theme , but reality was different. No noble behaviour was shown by serbs, they are almost identical in character as jews.when they were fleeing from occupied territories on tractors , they ran over other serbs who were fleeing on foot. Cowards and savages.
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>>535913858
Russia literally supported you because they are politically castrated nation and thought they could outdo NATO and gain support in Croatia and Montenegro. Also, they were starving and dependent on US aid.
Yugoslav military started packing before Oluja. By that I don't mean that they could have held up against 700k soldiers, that is crazy, but no, you could not have gone to Belgrade, you're also making a mistake of thinking multiple years of war does not affect you. It's like Serbian cope of saying "We could have occupied Austria because we had them on the run and went into their territory" in WW1.
It's cool to be happy about your victory but if you jerk yourself too much you will become blind to your own faults.
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>>535915356
>yadda yadda yadda
typical
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>>535916481
Stop the cope and lies. Serbia will never recover from that loss because it was such a skill issue and now you cope with 700000 soldiers but there were not even 100000 participating. 4 days. Shamefull.
>>535916707
Jarane ne jedi govna kad je burek 2 marke.



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