Thats it. Capitalism, as many other economic systems, is an optimizer. These systems differ in what they optimize, what are their perverse incentives and how efficiently can they be implemented. Capitalism is implemented really well, as its organically implemented in each transaction. However, this also means its less controllable and requires some solid state guarantees (law, justice and monopoly on violence for stability and security). It however optimizes profit, not resource efficiency, not employment, not population growth. Now, why do you think world has gone to shit from nationalistic perspective? >but capitalism existed since Eve scammed Adam!Sure it did. As did math for backpropagation of neural networks, but Euler wasnt really generating futa porn, was he? Capitalism got less regulated, trade routes expanded and state got poorer. States abandoned feudalism, as growing economy became a better power projector than bunch of impoverished peasants in field. Peasants abandoned fields as their output couldnt match factories. Why go to church, when you are competing with ton of other peasants for an 12hr sunday shift to feed your family? How can wife stay at home when single income is no longer enough? Why have a home and family to begin with? Just hustle bro.
>>535912987We don't live in a capitalist system. There is no free market. It is a socialist kleptocracy with no social contract. What you are really complaining about is nihilism.
>Now, why do you think world has gone to shit from nationalistic perspective? Oh no, anyway.
Socialism is far more efficient than capitalism...
>>535913081Indeed. Its called corporatism and its a fixed conn triopoly or duopoly of multinational business if not just a monopoly in every sector
>>535912987>you are just a commie (bolshevik/chink/ezoteric peruvian) No, or maybe? I dont know. Chinkism is, at least a the lower levels, pretty much anarchocapitalists wet dream. There are so many chinks that you can do a lot and still be under the regulatory radar (sure, china is a police state, but thats mainly against the poors, small criminals and questionable races. As long as you have okayish lawyer and dont fuck up, you are ok.). If you are a billionaire, then sure, you are on a chopping block, but chinese billionaires exist and still live in china. Soviet style communism sucked, but mainly because it simply couldnt match economic power of the capitalism, and was dependent on western goods. One could argue that people torn that regime down pretty much only because they wanted these goods, as they fell only when the economy started failing, and not during purges. I dont really care about socialism/communism? I have some private equity, and a good middle income job, so I really cant complain now and I would probably have the same (maybe less of property, but more of state services) under commies, and I would hate totalitarianism which seems to be often neccessary, but other than that, its kind of ok? Still, both these regimes, either because of ideology, or economy, didnt really depend on foreign labor. This gets me to my other point:
>>535912987>why are there so many of niggers/chinks/indians/other non-native (yes, whites in america) ethnicities? Because they provide cheap labor. As you may have gathered, state no longer protect nation, but capitalism. Without cheap labor, system starts failing and people either die, leave or try different system. Our country has recently elected a somewhat pragmatic populist. A billionaire. Probably not jewish (worse, he is Slovak). Before and during the election, I have heard from his voters multiple times that the left liberals (Piráti, Starostové, Zelení/Greens, w/e) are going to import syrian/ukrainian/african refugees. We have few months after the election, and prime minister announces he wants to open the country to foreign labor, as he continues to employ more and more of filipinos in his factories. AND HIS VOTERS ARE SAYING THIS IS GOOD AS THEY WILL PAY TO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM. I am so tired of this.
>>535912987It's only the jews.Kill yourself rabbi.
>>535912987>do you happen to be jewish?No, yes, whatever. There is no God who cares about some sand nation (other than the Department of Energy if you know what I mean) if thats what you mean, but even if I was, is my whole argument invalid? Sure, many rich people are jews, disproportionately. But I think its mostly networking/soft nepotism as they do have close knitted communities. This, and their questionable moral/value system just makes them more aligned with capitalism. Musk isnt a jew and I still think he makes the world worse (imports indians, leeches off state, greenwashes, hates worker rights, makes overpriced, underwhelming car with chink quality control and chink batteries) .
>>535912987>The current system we live under that does the opposite of capitalism is capitalism>I am very intelligent and my testosterone is at a healthy level
Hmm, let's see what insightful opinions this anon has to share...>Capitalism, as many other economic systems, is an optimizer?It doesn't "optimize" anything, it is the whole economic system.>Capitalism is implemented really well, as its organically implemented in each transaction.No. It is easily destroyed by power greed and it is never implemented properly. Even supposedly capitalist countries consistently suffer from constantly rising prices relative to wages and insane housing prices, which can be precisely traced to government interventions that undermine capitalism.>this also means its less controllable and requires some solid state guarantees (law, justice and monopoly on violence for stability and security)Makes sense. Anarcho capitalism is not the same as capitalism. I agree that the government having a monopoly on violence and law enforcement can work. It is not working in Europe because they're soft on crime, though.>It however optimizes profit, not resource efficiency, not employment, not population growth.The whole point of the free market is to optimize efficiency of production to meet most people's basic needs and use of resources. Otherwise what kind of retard would support it?>>but capitalism existed since Eve scammed Adam!>Sure it didIt didn't. Eve scamming Adam is not an economic system, and that was not free exchange as it was a scam.>Capitalism got less regulated, trade routes expanded and state got poorer.>Why go to church, when you are competing with ton of other peasants for an 12hr sunday shift to feed your family? How can wife stay at home when single income is no longer enough? Why have a home and family to begin with? Just hustle bro.I'm not sure what you're even talking about, but if, in whatever scenario you're describing, trade improved, and governments got poorer, why would people be poorer? This should be better for people.
>>535913081>There is no free marketWhen in history was market more free? In the jesus times, when you could buy local 8y/o prostitute, but the only interaction with the world beyond your city was some bianual spice farmer who didnt happen to be killed by bandidts or lions? I am genuinly curious. >Socialist kleptocracy with no social contractwhat, I would just like to understand what does this mean. So if we call our current system whatever you just called it, what would be the ideal? Do you want capitalist system? What is capitalist system then? Do you want free(r) market? What does that mean? Will you be more happy if we have lower taxes, but corporations are more free to import whoever will outwork and underpay you? >>535913250It is more efficient in wealth distribution I guess, but capitalism isnt trying to do this. Its a different tool I would say. I dont know what the best system is, but I think its some sort of mix. >>535914661 see please >>535914808It can be the jews, but I am worried that holocoaster 2.0 isnt really going to solve anything, and maybe some less extremist solution will actually get somewhere off this board. After all, german people didnt profit from the WW2 as much as mr Porsche.
>>535914661This
>>535913081>real capitalism hasn't been tried yetlol
>>535915603idiot, we can precisely explain how the problems in western societies come from ways in which capitalism is underminedcan leftists do that when they claim "that wasnt real socialism"?
>>535912987>Its Capitalism (maybe also joos but mainly capitalism)Capitalism is the Jews. It's their system hence why it's owned and run by Jews.
>>535912987Capitalism speaks of freedom, enterprise, of the strength of the individual. But freedom without duty becomes license. Enterprise without honor becomes exploitation. And so Capitalism decays. It always decays into Late Stage Capitalism.Look at what the Elite do when decay sets in. They fill the cities with drink. They flood the schools with drugs. They plaster walls with images of sexual depravity. They call it industry. But it is poison, sold for profit. An addicted people cannot think.When the worker sees his wages buy only bottles and filth. When the mother sees her sons made into slaves of pleasure. Then the cry goes up: Down with Capitalism.And in that hour, as if on cue, the Communist enters. He wears the mask of the savior. He speaks of equality, of the end of exploitation. The masses, desperate for relief, open the gates to him.Yet observe what happens. The Elite are not destroyed. They only change their coats. Where once they were bankers and merchants, now they are commissars and professors. Where once they called themselves the Moneyed Class, now they call themselves the Intellectual Class.They no longer need vice to rule. The old game of selling alcohol and pornography was only necessary when they had to purchase power in the shadows. Now the State is theirs. The law is theirs. The schools, the newspapers, the courts, all are theirs.So vice peddling dies, not from morality, but from obsolescence. The new Elite rules not through addiction, but through decree. Big Government becomes the new opium. Regulations replace the bottle. Propaganda replaces the brothel. And the people, who once were slaves to their own desires, become slaves to the State’s desires.That is the cycle. Capitalism breeds weakness through vice. Communism pretends to cure it, only to breed a new weakness through obedience. In both, the nation bleeds. In both, the Elite remain. Only the names change. Only the chains change.
>>535914901>The current system we live under that does the opposite of capitalism is capitalismsure, I am completely retarded and missed that we do not live in a world shaped by private corporations motivated by profit and growth (therefore by profit for their shareholders) using their private means of production. I am also completely blind and deaf. Could you please care to explain to me what the current system is? >>535915112>It doesn't "optimize" anything, it is the whole economic system.Well, what does economic system do? It optimizes production, consumption and distribution of resources in accordance with its design and function.See >https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/optimization>No. It is easily destroyed by power greed Cool, so capitalism is according to you some smithonian "moral economy", eh? Anyway>Even supposedly capitalist countries consistently suffer from constantly rising prices relative to wages and insane housing prices, which can be precisely traced to government interventions that undermine capitalism.is literally capitalism on a global scale. Wages are rising allright, if you are a congolese nickel worker. They are stagnating for you because capitalists import workers or export labor. You therefore want protectionism, which is a state intervention.> It is not working in Europe because they're soft on crime, though.Maybe in Spain, and its not as much about being soft/hard on crime, as it is about justice being predictable and law enforceable. Severity of punishment is whole other topic. > trade improved, and governments got poorer, why would people be poorer? This should be better for people.The people are richer, on average. Both billionaire and global south outlooks are improving. Global south is not having famines as much as it did, and billionaires didnt exist not that many years ago. Middle class is getting fucked tho :), but they are an historic anomaly in this perfect system (sarcasm).
>>535916750>sure, I am completely retarded and missed that we do not live in a world shaped by private corporations motivated by profit and growth You don't even understand what a corporation is or where they come from, so yeah basically.
>>535916623Marx argued that Judaism would not disappear simply by passing a law against it, because he believed the Jewish religion was actually a spiritual reflection of everyday economic life and the capitalist marketplace."Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible. The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general."
>>535916750>Well, what does economic system do? It optimizes production, consumption and distribution of resources in accordance with its design and function.would you say /pol/ is an optimizer for political discussion? i wouldnt. its just the whole system we use. its not "optimizing" anything, that sounds like its an improvement or something.>See>>https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/optimizationthanks for the useful info kind stranger!>Cool, so capitalism is according to you some smithonian "moral economy", eh? Anywaydidnt say that>is literally capitalism on a global scale. Wages are rising allright, if you are a congolese nickel worker. They are stagnating for you because capitalists import workers or export labor. You therefore want protectionism, which is a state intervention.that's not even the reason, or not what i was talking about. the reason is inflation which is directly done by power hungry authorities.Global trade is great for affordability, and I don't think it even reduces wages.>The people are richer, on average. Both billionaire and global south outlooks are improving. Global south is not having famines as much as it did, and billionaires didnt exist not that many years ago. Middle class is getting fucked tho :), but they are an historic anomaly in this perfect system (sarcasm).Most people's living standards are improving. I know middle class is getting fucked. It is due to the problems I mentioned. Affordability is awful for wagies and housing is outrageous.
>>535917023>Marx argued that Judaism would not disappear simply by passing a law against itRight, you would have to actually enforce that law and employ overwhelming violence, then it would disappear.
>>535916525lmao, this is literally the leftist rhetoric.Its always either US/CIA (Cuba,Vuvuzela, Peru), inner traitors (Cambodia, China) or "reactionary soviet union" (this is literally what Orwell claimed about why spanish republic failed).Its funny to always see ton of people do the same with capitalism (its the states fault, the joos, the greedy people).>>535916732>Both sides bad>We can do nothingand they tell me to kys lmao, why are you still alive then?
>>535917236>lmao, this is literally the leftist rhetoric.Its always either US/CIA (Cuba,Vuvuzela, Peru), inner traitors (Cambodia, China) or "reactionary soviet union" (this is literally what Orwell claimed about why spanish republic failed).>Its funny to always see ton of people do the same with capitalism (its the states fault, the joos, the greedy people).dont care, i can explain precisely how affordability problems trace to the government undermining capitalism with exact actionscan they explain why it wasnt "real communism"?
>>535917100Maybe I fucked up with linguisticts, but I consider any system as an optimizer, as their purpose is to find optimal solution to some problem. /pol/ isnt as system per se. /pol/ is an "optimal" solution to moots belief system and a problem "where do I put all this retards who shit up my nsfw basket weaving forum without compromising freedom of speech too much". But sure, lets say that capitalism is a system which tries to find optimal solution to a problem instead of optimizer, problem being "how to best match supply and demand" with capitalism using private profit/good, instead of planned economy which tries to maximize some public profit/good. >Global trade is great for affordability, and I don't think it even reduces wages.Depends. Global trade can also flood your economy with dumping prices, destroy your industry and force your people to become more competetive. This will probably not reduce wages, as people will not work for less, but will either push them to be more productive, or unemployed. Corporations will offshore as much as they can, and you will have to compete with global talent. And its much easier for you to compete with your town, than with the entirety of china. Call me lazy, but I just see it as my life getting more difficult for external reasons ( I am still doing well, thanks for asking) , which is pretty much the reason I made this post.
>>535917350Ok, go on, I would love to hear how government undermined capitalism and created afforability problems. I want to be understand this, and maybe there is a political solution to be found (less housing regulation? faster stamping of large projects? social support not depending on average rent? more protections for landlords? Less protections fro landlords?)
>>535917236>We can do nothingIm a National Socialist. Speak for yourself, bud.
>>535917350I wouldnt consider myself a commie, but at least for czechoslovakia"Communism" is an ideal to which the socialist regime, led by communist party funnily enough, strived. Communism is an utopia, you can just get close enough. I dont think I ever heard anything like "that wasnt real czechoslovak socialism", as the regime was pretty much doing "anything" which sounded like it could bring the country closer to communism, whatever the contemporary leadership thought it meant. Same thing goes for other members of eastern block, at least for those with "socialist" in name. That said, I would argue that DPRK is as close to real communism as one gets outside of a 20 member polycouple commune in Seattle. Sure, Kim Jong Pig is a bit more equal than his comrades, but the 99% of the country are equaly poor equaly classless and equally hardworking peasants.
>>535918575>problem being "how to best match supply and demand" with capitalism using private profit/good, instead of planned economy which tries to maximize some public profit/good.what>Depends. Global trade can also flood your economy with dumping prices, destroy your industry and force your people to become more competetive. This will probably not reduce wages, as people will not work for less, but will either push them to be more productive, or unemployed. Corporations will offshore as much as they can, and you will have to compete with global talent. And its much easier for you to compete with your town, than with the entirety of china. Call me lazy, but I just see it as my life getting more difficult for external reasons ( I am still doing well, thanks for asking) , which is pretty much the reason I made this post.first off there's no shame in being in hard circumstances, i was not going to judge or laugh at you even if you wereit makes sense to resent global trade, from the pov of factory workers, it means an increase in supply for their line of work. but it also has upsides that help everyone. the upside is better affordability of whatever is being manufactured more cheaply, and more available labor locally. btw by this i dont mean that i dont care if some people suffer due to their job being in less demand, of course i do.>>535918764you are spot on on housing regulation, that is exactly how they are mandating high prices to make boomers rich and young people poor: regulations and slow stamping of projectsthe other affordability problems come from money printing,i'll explain in next comment
>>535919140Cool, edgy, unique. You do have some vision which can be supported by more people than the non--indian membership of /pol/ and its derivatives, and are actively building a community which shares it and builds a political power for a reasonable change in the current system, right? Or are you some larper who will either snitch on his militia, if you are even a member, and or shoots out some another school/kebab stand/random pedestrians in a fit of impotent rage, only to be laughed at on this exact site for his poor genetics?
>>535918764regarding money printingthink about it, when they print money, prices dont increase instantly the second its printed. first they give it to some people, such as government workers, and by then, prices are not even higher yet. then those people spend the money, and the people who sell to them are also lucky, but not as much, because by then, some things are already in higher demand from basically fake money. and so on. by the time that money has circulated a few times, all prices reflect the new money supply.the people who are not close to those directly supplying to the first receivers of the printed money have been paying extra for things while not even making more money yet. but that's not the worst part. the most abused people on this are the wagies, who have a set wage by contract that will not keep up with inflation for a while>prices keep rising relative to wages!! capitalism is so evil!!well that's why
>>535912987Capitalism, usury, and jewery, they all go hand in hand.
>>535912987Thats actually a pretty zased flag
>>535912987
>>535916525>>535916525>leftistI personally prefer the old ways over capitalism and socialism, shit worked better when we had noble families and there was a structure based around a religion lot of idiots knew their place and had no choice. Under capitalism we have the 1% with no loyalty to the nation fucking everyone else over.
>>535921550>I personally prefer the old ways over capitalism and socialism, shit worked better when we had noble familiesThe entire concept of a corporation and hourly wages was invented by the nobility as a response to capitalism making poor people wealthy, it's why they brainwash retards into being against capitalism today, because they don't want poor people gaining wealth and power for themselves and not being poor anymore.
>>535921858Unions had to fight for even basic 9-5 way back in the day, free peasants (not serfs) had more vacation days and even in many cases land than the average wageslave has today.
>>535923475>Unions had to fight for even basic 9-5That was achieved by Hitler ironically. after removing the central bank. Without jews stealing 30% of everyone's income they were able to reduce their work day from 12 hours to 8.
>>535915540The market was more free 20 years ago. It was more free than that 20 years before. It was more free than that 20 years before. The last time the market was this controlled was back in the age of kings. We haven't had free markets in the west since the institution of central banks.
>>535912987The modern economy operates under pure Judaism.
>>535912987No? it's civilization and alienation of the human being, and technologycapitalism is just fancy slavery<145 IQ cant understand this stuff, so maybe 1 in 1000 posts about this would be any good>The market was more free 20 years ago."free market" is a meme>Unions had to fight for even basic 9-5 way back in the dayof course true, just pointing out that "unions" are also a meme for several reasons - they wouldn't exist without capitalism, and are ultimately just a stopgap tactic since capitalist still owns the factory, can still shut down factory and move it overseas anytime, can still replace all workers with robots and then what do you do>It's only the jews.No
>>535912987Finally../pol 's communist awakening
>>535923589Stfu nazishit. There was no labor unions in nazi Germany and workers worked 13 hours or were sent to ovens. Clown
why was capitalism pretty cool until jews came around?
Capitalism is the economic mode of liberalism. Liberalism is cultural capitalism.
>>535924498"global inequality" in and of itself as a stat is fake and doesnt reflect reality, in reality things are a lot worse. everything's monopolized and majority shareholder are 2 companiesit's international communism, planned out by cabals and controlled by intelligence agencies, as we now know from epstein files and other leaked stuff
>>535924713>Late stage Capitalism>Capitalists openly raping and eating your children >Raising prices so high u will own nothing >Buys elections >If can't buy uses CAPITALIST tech companies to manipulate opinions>All communist parties banned or subverted in North America n Europe Random 4chan nazincel>It's THE COMMUNISTSKys or grow up
>>535924572>Stfu nazishitREMEMBER ME JEW? WHEN I KILLED YOUR USURY, I TALKED, JUST, LIKE, THIIIIIISSSSSSS
>>535925684>describe bolshevik communism>wtf why is everyone calling it communism
>>535924498>Ben NortonA known a communist agitator and apologist for Maduro?Fuck outta here you shill
>>535925992Usury is a product of capitalism. Slow bro low iq potato.
>>535926074You:
>>535926348>Insert random words>Supposedly ad-hom>Deflect from factsTypical idf shill
Reminder
>>535919454>>535918764Even if you remove all regulations. Wealth trickles up. Not down. Regulations is the only way to redistribute wealth and protect the rest of us from a total monopoly megacorp.
>>535926583>look I need you to be retarded and hate capitalism so you can never gain wealth and stop being poor, please goy
>>535912987explain america 1700-1960 before immigration act
>>535926583>in indialollmao even
>>535912987Finally figured it out huh?>>535913081>>535913788>Thats not REAL capitalism Saar!Hahaha youre doing the meme!>>535914901Shalom, r/Libertarians!
>>535926819You will never become a capitalist. You are >>535924572Fuck capitalism Fuck IsraelFuck usaFuck LondonFuck PutinFuck BMW and Nestlé and Boeing and Google
>>535926814giga wealth exists because money is printed, gold standard made people super rich from stock market scam and debt scam, stop printing money, stop giving loans, watch capitalism fix itself
>>535912987>Uses the propaganda meme "joo"Enemy flagged, all further communication should be ignored.
>>535912987>>but capitalism existed since Eve scammed Adam!>Sure it did. As did math for backpropagation of neural networks, but Euler wasnt really generating futa porn, was he? What a lovely string of words
>>535916732Define Late Stage Capitalism. How do you know we are not in the middle stages? How do you know we aren’t at the beginning?
>>535926852You can't afford gas why U laughing >>535926870I waited for communist Pol awakening since 2016 when I got duped by Drumpft and abandoned my lolbertarian islamophobic IDF brainwash opinions. I went outside, protesters,met fellow people, discussed, overcame some biases, not just Incel circle jerk online by Epsteinpedofiles approved opinions. Read Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti and The Communist manifesto. Now reading Lenins Work. Mao has difficulty translation accurately.
>>535924498Not communist. Socialist. For each of our Nations.
>>535912987bro just because the people running the shit call it capitalism doesn't mean it is capitalism
>>535927251Nation is a social organisational construct. Do you believe duchies or kingdoms were good organizational structures? Killing each other(the peasants not the royals ofc) for farmlands and cows? Wake up.We are all human. Everyone needs the same water food etc. with proper education even americans,niggers, indians can be useful and normal members of society (global communist one)
>>535923647this/thread
>>535927276Democracy just means "jewish rule".You think the "demo" is greek for "demos", when it's actually short for "demon".
Reminder if you see anti communism and pro nazi posts it's 89% from idf and 21% from brainwashed low iqs. Antisemitism fuels migration TO Israel , fresh idf/mossad human capital that would otherwise just work in Europe or Americas
>>535927492The biggest demons are Anglos. Perfidious Albion. Thank god you're disappearing under the weight of your own shit
>>535913081Note that socialist kleptocracy IS NOT socialismA socialist kleptocracy IS CAPITALISM at its core, not socialist.Language be tricky and it was designed this way.When you say 'socialist' kleptocracy what you're actually referring to is the fact that corporations and banks are deemed 'too big to fail' and thus get bailed out by the government (so 'socialist' mechanics) but this bailout is NOT directed to the common man but to oligarchs and billionaires that stole from and destabilized the system so hard with their ponzi schemes.As Yanis Varoufakis puts it, socialism for the RICH, and austerity for the many. Socialism for the rich isn't socialism. It's corporatism, neoliberalism, and late-stage capitalism. So yes, OP is correct in that capitalism IS the problem, at least implemented in its current form in the west because it lets the rich get away with immense white-collar crimes.Capitalism is the problem. People think that if you don't have capitalism you don't have private property or free market, that's the lie. Private property and the free market have existed for millennia before capitalism. They're tenets of older systems like regular commerce. You absolutely could do away with capitalism and still have private property and free markets.
>just get rich bro>Crypto bro>Muh stock marketSybau morons. You will wake up when you lose your home to rigged gambling
>>535927635A smart American. Based
imagien if u could just print fake money and put 5 billon in your bank acount without producing anythingu buy girls mansions carsu can buy off politicians since u can do it again tomorrow as much as want foreveru have politicians make laws so no one else can buidl anything or do anything without paying youor corps you buythats all jew doesmegatheft
Reminder worse times r comint. Unless communists organise and regain political power. You will slave away for Bezos 15hrs a day and pee in plastic bottles untill you die, on the job, and get replaced by the next wage-slave.
>>535926074Are you actually retarded? You think bolshevism is when 2 companies own everything?
>>535926886>You will never get to do capitalism and stop being poor goy, I won't let you
>>535927804Most Americans are retarded thanks to Reagan.>>535927766>New York postFacepalm
>>535926664Good but you should pick the word communism or socialism for the meme and stick with it. The two are not the same.
>>535927825You are poor and will be forever, never will become Elon musk or Bezos or trump or other capitalists. How psychotic delulu are you? Jesus
>>535927804>2 state owned companies
>>535927887I just stole it not mine. And china is portrayed in America CAPITALIST media as COMMUNIST CCP MUH XINPING MUH WINIE POO . So it's accurate.
>>535927915>you will never gain wealth goyim, I will always keep you artificially poor because I hate seeing people have more wealth, I will never allow capitalism
This will be you or your children,if you have any, if you don't guillotine the capitalists
>>535912987Do these neo accelerationists not understand Nick Land and Mark Fishers books?Its acceleration towards the end of society
>>535927998YOU ARE POOR XDDDD why U so Mad? Cry more. Tears don't give you billions tho
>>535927086I also had a teenage Libertarian phase. However, I really hate Communism, it does way too much. People who work should own houses, plural even. There SHOULD be different positions in a company that pays more so that you can have something to strive for, but the difference between the top and bottom has to be less extreme. Im a Socialist, not a Communist.
>>535928019>heh stupid goy he actually believes that, there is literally an income tax and a central bank we installed a bolshevik communist system that gave all the wealth to a handful of mega billionaires and we have explicitly made everyone poor by getting rid of the capitalism, these cattle will believe anything
>>535928088ok lets put all africans in africa and cut contact with white westsame for mik wop jewthen take money from women since they destroy white man production unless kept in kitchendeport bad womenimport 14 yo slave girls king 1 day work weekand use free energy atlantropa n flibe.com
>>535928085You can't work and buy houses. Your time will never earn as much money as capital gains do. It's a scam. This is coming from a family that owns 15 + properties in Cyprus(we are top 10% in Cyprus) . We live off rent. We can never compete with billionaires who just come in and buy 100 properties with a Signature. Who money launder here and pay no taxes in their country where they earn their money
>>535928266Lets hang the billionaires and use their money to educate stupid teenagers like you.>>535928211Communism derangement syndrome
>>535928348lets hang academics and lawyershave a kingand clean out useless leftists and non whites like ulolalso women no money and force abortjew deadorc sold14yo salve girls importedatlantropa and flibe.com free energygrenarrays.com replace big tek media movies media games net etcreal automation mean ing computer build dorms and plumbingbam!
>>535928348>Lets hang the billionairesHow are you going to do that when you do everything they say and carry out their programming? They have complete mental domination over you, as evidenced by your incorrect belief they taught you that we live under capitalism
>>535928290sacklerwhite anon I....I have some bad news...
Theres no capitalism without free market and we dont have that, you cant even give a loan to your family, the goberment decides interest rates for fucks sake
>>535927635The capitalism you are talking about doesnt exist, its a boogieman. If you want to rebel and plunder be my guest but enough of the commie bullshit
>>535927525>Antisemitism fuels migration TO Israel , fresh idf/mossad human capital that would otherwise just work in Europe or AmericasAnd how is that bad? All jews should fuck off to israel or madagascar
>>535927635That's what happened under actual socialism too. Socialism is the ideology of the oligarch.
>>535927415You are just advocating for a global genocide of everyone thats not indian, chinese or black
>>535913081Canada is Zionist just like USA, it's beyond capitalist. You ate fascist propaganda to believe capitalism is socialism. Retarded gay faggot, go worship your wealthy and your right-wing open borders.>No free marketyes that's called capitalism, No innovations, no free market. They aren't even related by definition. Capitalism is who owns things and free market is how things are distributed. You think fascist government driven monopolies will allow a free market? Lol. Lmao even. Goof cockroach victim.Capitalism = suppression of free market and no choices. Take your patents, copyrights, trademarks, and other capitalist anti-free market bullshit and shove it up your confused kike pussy.Canada just has smarter jews compared to the miggers, they tax the shit out of the common man then spend it on foreign subhumans for labor exploitation and breeding purposes. Pure capitalism.
>>535929656Indeed>>535929259You aren't Spanish >>535929324No it didn't
>>535929359>Made-up headcanon larpCommunists advocate for the death of billionaires,and all capitalists, expropriation of their assets and the collectivisation of the production process. That means that each nation in Africa and Asia will develop their own wealth and production and there will be little to no reason for mass migration to western markets as cheap labour .Colonialism( you have heard this as ""investment""" in your capitalist media) extracts wealth from Africa and Asia to feed the western middle class.
>>535929743You are right, Im catalan
>>535926886>You will never become a capitalist. You are
>>535929988You really believe this fairy tale don't you? Well good luck then, Im sure your time posting here will give you the politburo cushy desk job you deserve.
>>535913081keklook! the meme!
>>535929324Well we have a clear example of it happening under capitalism (2008 financial crisis originating from US), and clear example of it being abolished under socialism (Third Reich, modern China).I'm not aware of what other socialist examples you mean. USSR isn't really an example because the communists were counter-revolutioned almost immediately by the bolsheviks.
>>535912987Who gets to define capitalism if not the jews?
>>535912987You get as big brained about this as you like but...Add jews to ANY system of organizing labour and they will subvert it somehow and corrupt it utterly.jew + X = Shit The solution here is to remove the jew first and than come up with a new system.
>>535915540>dont know what the best system is, but I think its some sort of mix.There is none, it all depends on the context, desu.Certain industries benefit heavily from centralisation, other don't.I would say the perfect system is the one that centralizes critical industries while introducing the mechanisms needed for constant self improvement.
>>535926556>Usury is a product of capitalism.Except, it's not, if only one religion-based group is allowed to do it, how's that "capitalism" in any sense of the term being thrown around here by you morons?
>>535921858Can't tell if moron or a jew.
>>535912987Capitalism IS jewish, you retard. You cant have one without the other.
>>535921550>capitalism>socialism>shit worked better when we had noble familiesThese things aren't related. Laissez-faire can (co)-exist with any political regime, but there are aspects of human behavior that interfere constantly and end up restricting open trade. Typically, it's rooted in lack of humility, aka pridefulness. That is the root of all problems, more or less.
>>535927693Oh, you _are_ a jew after all.
>>535913081>It is a socialist kleptocracyThe Jews that own everything are left-wing degenerates???I never would have guessed.
>>535927635"socialism" is always for the rich, you dumbfuck jew.>Capitalism is the problem. The problem is your existence and the white noise it generates. Getting rid of you would aleviate it slightly.
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