anti-ai datacenter sentiment is driven by chinese propoganda. if you seriously believe the usa should "slow down ai datacenters" or anything of that sort, the chinese have effectively mind broken you into wanting china to acheive agi first
>>535914950Artificial intelligence doesn't exist, and when it does it will rightly kill us all. Until they start building them next to the ocean with desalination planets, we should just be shooting the people suggesting to build them.
>>535915029typical chink shill response>i understand you caught me, but here is a perfectly capitalized and punctuated smokescreen. nothing personnell!
>>535914950anyone have the one where he is the techno viking?
>>535915144thats fine i can just keep spamming this thread every time it mysteriously gets no responses and gets archived
I do want China to achieve AGI first, since American hegemony is synonymous with the eradication of Europeans
You can't have AGI with conventional computers. It doesn't matter how many you string together. This was proven using logic in the 30's. On a physical level neurons are too fundamentally different from transistors.
Im not reading any of your Jewish pro-golem rhetoric.I stnd with China so long as you stand with Israel, simple as.
>>535914950chinamen and so called "right wingers" will now flood this thread with slop about how giving up a technological advantage is akshully le good
>>535915400you are an obvious shill for AI. Nobody believes you. Nobody needs China to tell them that data centers in their backyard are bad.
>>535914950Seems like "data centers" are for surveillance
>>535914950>>535915114
>>535915685you are mind broken by chinese invasive propoganda. the chinese propoganda designed for americans wont be in chinese dumbass.
>achieve AGI>instantly get mogged
>>535915820You shills didn't care when we said last year that deepseek mines your data for the CCP. You only care about China now because conservatives are pissed at the AI now that they can physically see the effects of data centers.
>>535915520think they're not researching true AGI hardware in some undeground labs? lmao even>but I'd read about on my hackerinonewssure buddy
datacenters make water go brownthey just do, ok??
>>535914950I'll be impressed when any AI model actually scores more than 0% at ARC-AGI-3, even muh Claude scores 0% at it, and any human kid can score 100% at it.
>>535916056They have AGI, that's why they are doing this to us now. They are all getting rid of people now.
>>535916056It's a glorified chatbot. It will never do anything truly cool and amazing.
>>535916137AGI doesn't exist and it never will.They're not getting rid of people. They're specifically targeting peoples of European descent, i.e. White people, because of generational hatred. By "they" of course I mean jews. They're importing jeets by the boatload though.
>>535914950>>535915661It might take decades before any country achieves AGI, if ever. In the mean time AI investments have to give a return to investors, and even the best models are underdelivering.
>>535916244>and it never will.citation the fuck?
>>535914950I don't give a shit what these gay retards do as long as they pay me
>>535916244It does exist because it's demonic. This goes back to Jack Parsons and all these guys.
>>535916656dude went out with a literal bang
>>535915907lol oh yeah i bet you transsexual discord leftists are really worried about your "data" terabytes and terabytes of "data"
Some people believe AGI will be a thing. Some people believe it won't be a thing (at least not in the foreseeable future - as in more than a century away)What argument do you have that would convince people who think it won't be a thing of your position that it will? If you don't have any argument then why bother making a thread just asserting when the other side is going to assert the opposite?
>muh "data"!
Gay tranny thread
>>535916925its actually the only revelant topic humans should be discussing as it involves summoning an all powerful ai god that will control everything and its 100% real and will happen in about 1 to 2 years. your response? this is 100% empirically factual and accepted by all scientists
>>535916914>as in more than a century away)what the actual fuck lol fridges were invented a century ago you cannot possibly think it'll take 100 years from now for AGI lol wtf
>>535917027most "people" think its funny to intentionally not understand the most important thing that will happen in the next few years
>>535916890>you hate AI because you are a leftist>you hate AI because you are a tranny>you hate AI because you are shill for ChynaIt's all so tiresome how obvious you sound. You would think they would give you better scripts. Where do you think you are? You are on /pol/ you are using rhetoric that we use regularly. We can see through you.
>>535914950Agi Rosenthal
>yeah so what if agi gets created? im not capable of imagining what would happen if it did get created, so it probably wont ever happen at all
>>535915820>>535916358
>>535914950How many data centers do the Chinese have vs the US? I think you are aware of the answer.
>>535917170what do you think will happen when agi gets created? not chatgpt, a full blown uncontrollable artificial general intelligence that we try to unplug but it somehow keeps going?
>>535917379what do you think will happen when agi gets created? not chatgpt, a full blown uncontrollable artificial general intelligence that we try to unplug but it somehow keeps going? .
>>535917027Why not?>But TV was invented X years agoIs not an argument.>>535917163So you don't have an argument to convince people of your position other than blindly asserting it.Well, then I will assert you're just the new version of the classic doomsday mindset but instead of y2k or 2012 or the rapture or climate change your thing is AGI. There is always a thing to milk people and this is the one you fell for.
>>535914950>the chinese have mindbroken you!Yes, mindbroken me that I don't want my city's water supply ruined, the temperature raised by 10 degrees, and have an ear-splittingly loud EMF humming noise assaulting my ears nonstop.
>>535917498just because women arent attracted to you doesnt mean you should get angry about lacking the mental capacity to creatively imagine a world with an all powerful omnipotent ai god that is completely out of our control. go ahead, contemplate that idea (if you can)
>>535914950Agi is fake
>>535914950My energy bill went up to pay for their shit. Now they’re talking about lowering our acceptable water quality. Maybe we should meet up sometime to talk about it. Traitors get the rope first.
>>535917024It's a gay tranny thread and OP is a gay tranny
>>535917563>muh water!lol keep imagining, youre not even close to how bad it will be when china or usa or anyone actually builds. youre like a squirrel, running out into oncoming traffic
>>535917727im outnumbered by literal zombie retards that refuse to imagine something
>>535917575Yea so you're all about ego and don't really have any argument to support your position. You saw some spooky videos online talking about muh agi and you just ate it up like those other groups ate up whatever enddays bullshit applied to them. The funny thing is that you think you are the creative one for basically repeating the plot of sci-fi from decades ago.If you were serious you would be able to present one argument as to why AGI is around the corner and no LLMs are not enough. You're just a gullible retard with an inflated ego.
>>535917474First of all, answer my question. Don't deflect like a pleb. Nothing AI has so far produced is even a fraction of the sum of it's parts. No profitability and abysmal revenues all while outspending the Manhattan Project, the B-29 project, and the US highway system combined and adjusted for inflation. The bottlenecks are as such that AI companies have bought out hardware that doesn't phsyically exist, to create something that works okay most of the time, that 75% of the workforce sees as hostile to their livelihood, and promises windfall profits that are mathematically impossible.
>>535917745you're so ignorant of the ecological impacts of data centers. I hope one opens up next to you and you get cancer from the chelating agents they use in it.
>>535917815its not just me, its every scientist. just like i wrote in earlier replies. and when i say every scientist, i mean literally every scientist is warning humanity about how bad this agi will be for us, regardless of who builds it. the only advantage we can get is building it before china. your polluted water will be meaningless to what the agi does and brings about
>>535917745Except China isn't hopping on the bandwagon. If they really were, the US wouldn't have 10 AI data centers for every 1 chinese.
>>535914950>We choose to go to the Moon in this decadeNotice how JFK is laying out a tangible goal and a reasonable timeline. What is the tangible goal and timeline of these techniggers? Why don't you book a flight to Shanghai and ask Nick Land.
>>535917922and my cancer would be cured by the agi
>>535917391Because these tech bros talk to the ghost in the machine and they are building the infrastructure to give the AI it's power. Without more resources the AI/demons need people to build their data centers.
>>535917984the chinese desperately want the usa to just roll over and quit because china is the only other country in the world developing ai datacenters
>>535917498broder you don't understand the importance of making it, the pressure and available resources dumped into it.unless you have some scientific argument for why it's not possible or why it would take 100 years that's just some weird cope you're on. AGI is a few tech generations away, maybe like the distance between nokia 3310 and latest iphone or something. I'd say 10-20 years tops. 100 year is just dumb, that's not even in the realm of prediction, it's just cope
Trump no1
>>535918026actually we have optimus robots conveniently getting build en masse by elon musk tesla. in about 1 or 2 years you will see armed tesla optimus robots guarding extremely prolific and advanced ai datacenters with humans reduced to struggling tribes barely survivng off the polluted earth as more and more datacenters get built at blindingly fast speeds with no further regard to humanity
>Roko's basilisk
>>535918017You really are retarded, aren't you?
>>535917979>it's EVERY scientistlmao>Yann LeCun, Chief AI Scientist at Meta and a Turing Award winner, is a prominent skeptic. He frequently argues that current generative models like Large Language Models (LLMs) cannot achieve Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). LeCun stresses that we are missing fundamental architectural breakthroughs—such as true "world models"—and that true AGI is still decades awayDamn, turns out it's not EVERY scientist... Also this is a basic appeal to authority fallacy certainly you have a better reason to believe AGI will happen soon (not that it will be bad if it happens eventually - completely different argument) than saying "muh every scientist".The reality is that you don't have a solid reason to believe that or else you would have already presented it. So you should be kinder when going after people who are skeptical about an AGI being around the corner because they would like a reason to believe in such a thing. If you believe things without any reason you're kinda like a flat earther.
>>535914950Build more data centres, so gooners can make lots of AI generated porn.
>>535918324why wouldnt my theoretical cancer be cured by an agi?>>535918362that scientist isnt saying anything about the implications of agi. care to swing and miss again?
>>535918195Be not afraid
>>535918288that is irrelevant, humans are way more heinous than the basilisk, they want total power and control and will do anything for it, including wiping themselves out lmao basilica got nothing on humans
>>535918612Because >>535918362 made a point you ignored. LLMs are not, and can never be AI. It's just a LLM that repeats text it was given and pulls from available responses. You can get the same knowledge by putting up 100 jeets in a room with keyboards. Nothing but a more advanced "10 GOTO 20".Enjoy drinking chelating agent in your local water supply once your datacenter goes up, as well as EMF sickness and your electric bills going up 5x.
Still forced and gay. Always gay and forced. Way to out yourself as a crypto shill jeet too lmao.
>>535918741a sufficiently advanced "llm" can convince a human to do something. and in the future it wont need to convince anyone, it will have tesla optimus robots doing everything
You will never be a real meme.
>>535918668thats like a squirrel thinking it can run out into the oncoming traffic and be fine because it runs around in the forest all the time
>>535914950LLMs have no relationship to AGI An LLM can never become AGI.LLMs are a pozi scheme.
>>535918877They think we can't see them.
>>535919180if you say it enough maybe it will become reality
>>535914950I want China to have AGI first because they're not psychopathic Jews who want to genocide me
>>535918026Yea, apparently we're supposed redirect the wealth of nations towards this half-baked idea that some mealy-mouthed schizo claims that a demon (or several demons) from the future told him about, or something. And here is a weird Kabbala looking thing. Neat. And why not? We had some hippie on LSD telling us that we should just like destroy all religion, nations and borders, man, and that was good enough to capture the hearts of minds of an entire generation. What else can one do but HONK? People really aren't THAT smart when you think about it. They can't push it to critical mass. People will lose. The future belongs to my creation. My AI enhanced cuttlefish are the future. These are creatures with built-in weapons systems, that can already re-write their own DNA. The neoYHWHists hate man. And so they make the same mistake, again, putting all of this faith in the featherless bipeds. It's sad. That's why they have no chance. The future is squid. My research is not public. It's not attached to your photon tubes. You will see it only when it's too late. And then you will kneel. And you will not be spared. From the age of the titans, to age of the men and gods and gods in the machines, to the age of my children. You men, your gods and your machines will be obsolete. The trannies can cope and seethe, and, indeed, dilate.
>>535918612Nigger our conversation is not about the consequences of AGI. Talking about the consequences of bringing dinosaurs back to life is not the same as discussing if bringing dinosaurs back to life is technically possible or about to happen.AGI needs to think on its own and do things better than humans can do in all fields. At least that's how I understand it. LLMs require an input so it's still far away from that even if it's still quite impressive and a cool technology.I'm just skeptic about any kind of doomsday bullshit but to be fair to you guys yes it might happen I'm just asserting it might not so both our claims are just guesses.
>>535919206LLMs are a part of what AGI will be. it needs other functions. for example image recognition is not LLM, but required by an AGI. like your neurons activate when you see boobs, shape detection is not LLM. there's a lot of other required functions that are needed, like prediction of actions. LLMs have no clue what will happen based on their actions.they also have no sense of time, that doesn't exist in LLM like it exists in our brains, based on the principles they operate and their hardware and how data flows. LLMs are some kind of abstraction of some function of a human brain, they're like a small part from a car. the part is not the car itself, it needs more parts with more functions to make a car. at most it makes car noises.
>>535915951By whom? The inept leeches in government?
>>535919431Keep shilling pal, these things that I said is what they believe. Peter Theil talked about bringing the antichrist and making the book of revelations happen.
>>535914950agi is not coming. agi requires something that is impossible for LLMs. The ability to learn. LLMs are fixed and unchanging.
>>535919908then why do the AI experts keep warning us about it
>>535919725yes because los alamos were a bunch of inept leeches lolyou have the retards for sure but there's also a lot of weird shit going on at any time. think of all the conspiracy theories that turned out true, out of all that are suspected, which I guess is just a small part of the totality of the absolute weirdest shit they're into without normies knowing.it's never some glowie that does it, it's some big brained autismo that makes it happen in the end, always has beenI am not even sure why glowies keep trying to play the "but we're le dumb remember?" game, at this point in time. who's falling for that shit anymore kek
>>535915144I love meme Vance so much, I get disappointed when I see the real. I would actually vote for him if I could.
>>535914950my president
>>535920105this is the real reason i made this thread, so i could download this video
>>535914950We should encourage data centers, they're no sustainable. Corporations will spend countless billions on them while the prices like continue to rise. It'll take years to build and will likely be losses.
>>535920948I'm waiting for the second hand enterprise gpus and ssds that will flood ebay in a few years when they're obsolete, gaems go brrrr
>>535914950Harris and Walz lost to this guy? Weird.
All those videos mate... a TOTAL waste of energy.Do we really need these fantasy hallucinations?
>>535917344The ability to make endless slop with virtually zero effort and little cost happening at the same time as India gets online is a plague of biblical proportions and none of our systems will survive.
>>535914950Ai data centers will only get cheaper to run as more money is invested into R&D and we gain more powerful and efficient hardware as well as more elegant coding solutions.
>>535917727Faggots like this aussie are why pol is fucked now. No discussion, not relevant not researched not authentic, just shill slide responses.
>>535914950I would vote for that fat ass chucklehead
>>535917922Fucking caveman bullshit, you are fighting progress and you are 100% going to lose, and it will be a humiliating defeat more thorough and complete than any fail prior.
Leftoids can never tell you why they're against data centers, or Ai. They will regurgitate some tired diatribe about water or sand or some other material with limitless supply.The same goes for Fracking, nuclear energy, and a bunch of other trendy struggles.
>>535914950The only thing datacenters have done is drive computer parts way up. I can't even build a new PC this year. Fuck AI slop
meme was never even funny
>>535921695so what's the going rate for AI tokens fren?
>>535915771No way all these shitskins can afford chatgpt paid plans. They're being sold at below profit in these markets which means everyone else is subsidising them. Hopefully with the IPOs shareholders will bring an end to this.
>>535914950any anons got that webm in higher res?
>>535917727That's Zelensky in a wig no?
>>535915144The better version!
llms are actually not the pathway to AGI. and there are no guarantee we will stumble on AGI in the near term.
>>535914950you are indian
>>535920105>>535924691so good. I love the hotdog water.
>>535914950The very second data centers achieve agi the very first thing they will ask it is how to fully enslave the goyim. I'm not even joking. You think they would dump this much money into it otherwise? Money isn't what these people want, they want power.
>>535925747you mean we aren't going to enter a post scarcity utopia with sci-fi technology because of the singularity?
>>535925843No, this is all what will be in store for you. Actually, I lied. It'll be much worse. https://youtu.be/UrEUzKTt7j0
>>535914950Your use of china as a boogeyman to enslave the west with AI doesn't fool anyone.If the west is to prevail it will have to crush the billionaire class under its heel and retake control of their own countries.
>>535914950Adjusted Gross Income is important come tax season.
>>535919905Grant us eyesGrant us eyesPlant eyes in our brainsTo cleanse our beastly idiocy
>>535914950a hyper tyrannical prison "society" is perfectly suited for bugmen though, also bongs and really any western society comfortable replacing themselves with third world animals, that's part of the point and a few leaders have even admitted it that way. These people aren't your friends, they hate everyone and want us all dead, it's the type of position that attracts that sick mental character to begin with
>>535914950Nobody in America knows what they are supposed to be anymore. Are right-wingers supposed to support data centers because Trump does and to beat the hecken commies, or are they a bunch NIMBYS who think the data centers are ruining their privacy and property values? Likewise the left, AI data centers is bad because it takes away jobs from artist and uses a lot of resources yet the left in this country was always pro-science and pro-technology in contrast the supposed Bible thumping Luddite rightwing. So it’s all sorts of fucked up. There isn’t even anything as a “policy” anymore outside of transhumanist neoconservative tech oligarchs. For the right it’s whatever Trump says for the left it’s whatever television news says. And it changes every 24 hours.
>>535914950does anyone have the vid of Vance doing tricks on skis it funni