>University of California professors are sounding the alarm on a “severe” lack of math skills among college students — thanks to a decision to ban standardized testing in admissions at the elite universities.>More than 600 professors signed an open letter saying they’ve been forced to teach “middle school” math in Calculus and other courses as incoming students are alarmingly unprepared for college-level coursework.https://nypost.com/2026/05/27/us-news/uc-professors-say-theyre-teaching-middle-school-math/
They had a shitty system to begin with.>uh, actually, despite your high test scores you can't come here because instead of doing the Movies Club, and running for school President, and playing tennis, you were at home studying or playing video games
>>535929051Just fail them. Wasting time teaching stuff everyone should already know isn't fair for the students who are actually ready for college
A lot of people say that college should be "free" (publicly funded), but my biggest problem with that is that we already have public schooling and it's often considered inadequate. To improve the education that people are already receiving seems a much better idea than to publicly fund even more education which as a result will likely deteriorate just as actual public schools have.
>>535929051The beaner kids can’t read either
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most of /pol/ couldn't do middle school math
>>535929436the path of least resistance will be everyone getting straight A toilet paper degrees just like in india
>>535929438This, but that won't happen.
>>535929436The UC system allows students to appeal grades on the basis of race, gender, or sexual orientation discrimination. Everyone other than straight white men (who comprise a small fraction of the class body due to discrimination) follows this process whenever they get a grade they don't like. The appeals almost always either outright overturn the grade or allow the student to do some sort of makeup work to boost it. Appeals that result in an overturn of the grade result in immediate discipline for the professor. Appeals that result in makeup work don't result in immediate discipline, but are a black mark that affects them during their performance review.Because of that, the lowest score given for work that is turned in and tests that are taken is a B+, which is the equivalent of a failing grade even though it does not result in failing the class.In other words, the professors literally can't fail them without being fired. The worst part is that their union won't defend them when they do get fired because they're branded a racist/sexist/bigot/Republican. It also prevents them from working in higher education again.
>>535929691>dude iPlBNice ID
>>535929051>stop screening students for math skills>students now suck at mathwho could've predicted this?
>>535929436Former college professor here for 10 years. (Physics/Astronomy)I had to teach students 8th grade algebra and 6th grade additon of mixed fractions. 20 year old women broke down crying in my class over angle variable algebra. Zoomers are fucking dumb. They cannot do math without a calculator. You ask them to add any numbers with more than 1 digit? They pull put their phone. Heaven help you if you ask for an answer in variable form.The worst part? We can't fail them. We are graded on pass rates and heavily pushed by admin to keep pass rates high. A student that flunks out isn't paying tuition.I quit my job to manage a CVS. It's less stress and I make 20 grand more a year.
>>535929481Middle school math nowadays is what used to be 4th grade math.
Imagine going to college in 2026.
>>535929438School should be replaced by apprenticeships. No more employees paying for their training. This whole system is a fucking scam.
>>535929051>AI companies funded thisNow you dumb, and you need AI, suckers.
>>535929856I am not finding anything like that which you described. Do you haz proofz
>>535929051>they’re teaching middle school maththen they should get paid middle school salaries.
>>535929438>my biggest problem with that is that we already have public schooling and it's often considered inadequate.my problem is with that and the credential inflation.you can't just get a decent job with a high school diploma.you need a bachelors.oh wait, you can't just hold a bachelors, you need a masters.and so on.
>>535930079$200K in nondischargeable debt to get indoctrinated with globohomo propaganda and be educated up to the level of a tenth-grader circa 1880 (if you're lucky).Here's a 19th-century American high-school math textbook:https://archive.org/details/acompletecourse02wellgoogDrill, baby, drill.
>>535930305https://academic-senate.berkeley.edu/committees/coci/gradeappealsEvery UC school has this same policy.
>>535929438You can't improve anything as long as you put niggers in classrooms mixed with others races. You are doomed to become increasingly dumber until you finally decide to put segregation back in place. Which will ofc never happen. Embrace your huehue destiny (present), Brazil too used to be white, look at them now. It's (you).
>>535930524It's incredible that people still seem to think America has any sort of desirable future at this point lol. This place is fucked.
>>535930564UC Berkeley actually has very few niggers. It's mostly Chinese, White, and jewish.
>UofCOH NO! NOT THE CHINK AND JEET TRAINING GROUNDS!!!
>>535930661We were talking about the public school cursus prior to univ. Problem with putting standards lower to fit the lowest common denominator (niggers) is everybody gets dumber, especially those chinese/whites/jews.
>>535930747The WMAF Matchmaker
>>535929191There's a lot of students with high test scores. They want to know what else you've got.
>>535929436>Just fail them./thread
>>535929436That would be racist, anon.
>>535929051What are the demographics of the student body, can we address that
>>535930022Should've worked at a research university and gone into the grant-chasing life rather than caring what a bunch of faggot deans thought about your teaching.I couldn't imagine how humiliating it must have been to prostrate yourself before some smarmy worm who thought getting good grades was the end-all/be-all of existence (we all know that it's actually getting citationsnthat defines you as a man).
>>535930549Danke
>>535930844They want to know race/gender for the lost part.The decision to ban standardized tests is a way to get spics and nigs through the door.
>>535929436this. i'm sick of the rigged academia where no one fails. it's so watered down.
>>535930781Common Core was designed to dumb everyone down so that niggers and spics won't feel so bad, yes. Even the students from the so-called magnet schools were more less at remedial level. Unless a student went to a very elite, rigorous private school, you can't expect him to be able to write a coherent, grammatically correct paper or excel at mathematics. It's been this way for a long time. It's just gotten worse, so much worse that it's not sustainable for much longer. The whole system will come crashing down in our lifetime.
>>535929191This.Fuckers always preferred retarded nogs who played ball over autists/introverts with high GPAs. That's why I always saw universities as a fucking joke, especially if they promoted their shitty sports programs.You're supposed to be paying these schools so they can better educate you, not to fund Jamal's scholarship because he can kick a ball better than Tyrone from a rival school.
Not the job of the university to deal with this. You have world class universities in the dumbest most negrified hicktarded red WWE ghettobanger districts. The university must maintain its standards at the international level. If the K-12 system keeps up, that's on the state. If you have kids going to school, graduating, and they can't even get into the university in their own home town, the university will have zero problem getting kids from other cities, towns, or even out of state. Does this hurt kids and families? Absolutely, but there isn't a true solution to this until these kids feel the pain, grow up, and try to make things better for those that come after them.
>>535929051What does middle school math mean? Like early Algebra? Because most students don't get into calculus until 12th grade or college
>>535930524It is not the responsibility of the university or the professor for you to internalize the content and get your dollar's worth. This only matters when it starts to affect their prestige and interests. But guess what? No matter how rigorous you make a business or marketing degree, no one gives a shit, its garbage paper you can wipe your ass with anyways. For their actual prestige graduate programs, pre-med, law school sure, at that point they need to focus.To change this mentality is to ask to change the national consciousness boomers destroyed.
>>535931197>What does middle school math mean?These days it means basic arithmetic. Good luck getting even that much from a high-school graduate now.
>>535929051>yo teach, y deez lettas be in muh maffs dis ain English, muthafucka
>>535931068Ironically, despite it being California, the UC system has one of the few remaining actual race-blind admission processes. That is why the top schools like Berkeley and LA are 50% asian - they don't put a cap on the number of asian students like every other school.
>>535930549To think even Ayn Rand said good things about their students once in a whole book
>>535929051Just pay your 1000 USD AI subscription goy
>>535930844Apparently not. The topic of the thread is just that.
>>535930022One of my degrees is in engineering, but I had to take a course in the business college to cover a course that was only offered once a year. I ended up taking microeconomics with the economics majors.Long story short, I had to sit through many classes where the professor had to teach the class to plot a line. That was a mind fuck.
>>535931292I was in highschool in the 00s and we didn't even need to take precalculus to graduate so I didn't. It fucked me over taking Calculus in college even back then. I was in a good school system too.
>>535930074People were much more intelligent in the past. Grade school primers were much more difficult. Society has been purposefully dumbed down.
>>535931152Wait until you find out they prefer a black kid over a white kid with the exact same athletic ability.
>>535930844They just redefine high to be 400 total then let the other 99% of the admission be some mystery box bullshit
>>535931399Niggers avoid going to Berkeley because they don't feel welcome there. They don't like being surrounded by East Asians, who openly dislike and look down on blacks. Niggers can't use white guilt on gooks and chinks.
>>535929191> bawwww i did nothing and got nothingif you have to choose between two students with similar grades why would they pick someone who did nothing with their life versus someone who succeeded at something?
>>535929438 many public schools are excellent and engaged students/parents achieve great things because their communities care and keep the bar high and don't defund the schoolsplenty of dipshit public schools though (and not just because of nogs)
>>535931831Its just class selection with the intent that over thousands of students, they will have a higher probability yield of alumni donations from lacrosse players than gamers.
>>535931043>535930022>Should've worked at a research university and gone into the grant-chasing life rather than caring what a bunch of faggot deans thought about your teaching.That's a horrible and stressful way to live. Most professors are adjuncts and post-docs are slaves. Any salaried job with bennies is better.
>>535931831I didn't even apply to college, faggot. Kill yourself.
>>535931433My public high school was terrible, even though it was in a supposedly top district. The math teachers were godawful lazy morons who had students grade each other's homework. I took calculus in high school and passed it but really had no idea what the hell I was doing. At least my college professors knew what they were doing and could teach. So I retook precalculus and calculus. This time they were correctly taught.>>535931463There was no time to waste back in those days. Kids needed to be skilled in practical math and be able to write coherent business letters to help out their family business, so public schools in 19th-century America had to get right down to it, as quickly and efficiently as possible. And that's exactly what they did.
>>535929051It’s over.
>>535931175Absolutely this. Common Core was created by governors, and they had a choice whether or not to adopt the final product. Some also repealed it after a few years. Your local schools being shit is because of the local politicians that you voted for. >>muh standardized blah blahIf you educate them better than the baseline of shitty tests, they will be able to pass shitty tests. If not, you're just coping for your dumbfuck muttspawn.
>>535931914>many public schools are excellentMaybe once upon a time, but I doubt there are any truly good public high schools anymore. I remember years ago finding the students from the "prestigious" magnet schools not being any better than the rest of the undergrads.
>>535929051where were the universities during covid? why weren't they livestreaming panel discussions? where were the scientists reviewing the literature for the general public? where were the weekly reviews to see what the data showed and which predictions from the models were right? where were the humanities professors to discuss the affects of lockdowns?
>>535932821To discuss such stuff honestly in public would probably cost you your academic career.
>>535932117That's why I went from a R1 to defense. I run a bigger research group, with better compensated employees (not slaves and motivated to do good work), with huge CRADs ($20M this year) and real meaningful products at the end of the pipeline. Academia is hell.
All of these problems with students are simply because they are niggers.Look at any of the complaints, it's niggers being more of the class now bringing everything down.
>>535932901that's the whole point of tenure
>>535929606Harvard and Yale have both gone this route and now their certificates (I wont even call them diplomas) are worthless.
>>535929438Free public college in germany requires you to pass their matriculation tests, you dumb faggot. Just expel all the niggers and stop being a jew.
>>535930844china went by pure test scores for decades. look at them now.
>>535932967Even tenure can't save you from some things. And let's face it, academics are not a notably courageous group. Every once in a while you get someone like Peter Duesberg or Kary Mullis, who is willing to rock the boat. But even Duesberg has been cowed into silence and Mullis died very conveniently six months before the covid psyop began.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTWN_PJ8t2o
>>535933119Cheating is rampant among Chinese students, both in China and here in the U.S.
>>535932821when it really mattered, the universities were all closed (they were scared) and the paying students all got ripped off, but the professors all got paid. and then the universities mandated that the healthiest and smartest young people all take an experimental poison or be expelled (no refunds), but the professors and administrative staff (but not the custodians or security - jab those proles) ALL exempted themselves from the mandates and stayed home for another 6 months. zero truth about covid came from ANY university. all bullshit. no principles. the university system is dead - it should be raided and taken from them by armed men who want to run a college - campus by campus. fuck them all
>>535929051>incoming students
>>535932117If I had a nickel for every post-doc crying in the hallway I ran into when leaving the lab I wouldn't have to work again.>negative results are still resultsThis only made them cry harder
>>535933375(You)
>>535929436>no child left behindThey left themselves
Some universities here require you pass an exam separate from your high school grades, why isnt that more common
>eliminate math and science >Influx of spics suddenly going to college
>>535931003Depends in California. Shittier colleges are full of spics. Good ones are mostly Asian, whites, Indians
>>535929856Goddamn California is a bunch of pussy faggots
>>535929051It's fucked across the board - most incoming classes are bimodal now, you end up with 50% of your students who are overprepared and get an easy B or A, and 50% who are underprepared and get a D or an F. The C students have basically ceased to exist.
>>535933715We had that, it was the SAT
>>535933768black women are now the most officially educated group in america. the criminal corporate media was bragging about it just recently. 98% incompetent guaranteed. they will all be hired into management positions with their worthless education doctorates and toilet paper mba's. they are the future boss of everyone foolish enough to go with the system. doomed
>>535929051US and Japanese universities are completely pointless
>>535931152Tyrone is a traditionally Irish or Scot name.Lets not misappropriate.
>>535929051Man, the DEI runs deepWe are entering levels of anti-intellectualism never before seenIdeocracy was right, but the cause was wrong
>>535931831>succeeded at something What the fuck are you on about? The guy in his example had high scores. He just wasn't doing extracurriculars. How the FUCK is joining the Movies Club or playing tennis "succeeding at something" but high scores isn't?
>>535929436The schools get more funding if more kids pass
>>535929051Why teach math at all? AI can do it for you.
>>535929191>>535931152>>535931831The point of it is to make sure that the person was busy doing nothing.They want the somewhat smart guy, who wastes his talents and time on throwing some ball around, training hard to be histrionic on a theater stage, or be obsessed enough with status to want to get a title in school that doesn't offer power or wealth.What they really do not want is the independent, principled intellectual who is interested in Truth and would rather be alone or with likeminded folks.
>>535930661True but the black pop in cali is only around 5%. Berkeley is 5% black students, which is WAY WAY over represented in what it should be given average black IQ.
>>535934047>black women owe more money in student loans than any other demographicYou really didn't expect them to tell the truth, did you anon?
>>535934392You haven't been to Berkely, have you? Its a dotted line away from nigger-infested Oakland.
>>535930524>19th-century American high-school math textbookthis is literally 7th grade California state standards (doesn't mean most students today are meeting those standards though)
>>535934081Japan has one real university, the University of Tokyo, which is first rate. The rest are daycare centers with an academic level equivalent to a typical American middle school. I'm not kidding. It's really that bad.
>>535934657>page 28>math most HS graduates can't perform
>>535934272AI can write your papers for you, too. And you can pay a beaner or a jeet to go to the gym and do your workout for you.
>>535929051my nephew missed 2 straight weeks of school, his teacher refused to give us any homework, saying she doesn't believe in homework
>>535929051Just teach your curriculum as written. It's not your job to teach remedial math. Why would they even say this other than just to complain that other teachers suck compared to them?
>>535934657I didn't see algebra till 9th grade. And it was much more watered down and slower paced than that textbook.
>>535931831I find it ironic that they made such a big deal about a STANDARDIZED i.e. "unbuyable" test and then said "lol we'll just accept people who can afford extracurriculars instead"
>>535934824Teachers (and professors) HATE grading homework, so they either don't assign it or don't grade it. My HS math teachers told us to grade each other's homework. I'm not kidding.
>>535935068Graded homework is just padding to make up for shitty test and project scores so Tyrone can pass.
>>535930549>The ad hoc grievance committee’s recommendations may include a change of letter grade or grading option (i.e., P/NP, S/U). Four of the committee's five members must consent to the letter grade that is recommended (including the change of grade of D+ and below to a grade of P or the change of a grade of C+ or below to a grade of S). in other words, 4 out of 5 members must agree for the grade change process to be approved
>>535934392I saw so few of them there. I guess they were all majoring in social work and education and steering clear of math, philosophy, and even English (I remember seeing only two black students in all my English classes, one of whom was the future actress Sanaa Lathan.)
>>535935423It's supposed to let the teacher or professor see how much the students are learning and where they're having trouble. Homework counted a lot for your high-school grades but very little for your college grades. In college, grades were almost entirely based on two exams and two term papers.
>>535929438good point
>>535929481Youre fucking dumb if you think /pol/ is filled with losers. Theres probably more competent professionals frequenting this place than reddit. Im willing to bet that despite all the neets the median income of frequent users here is higher than every other social media site that exist.
>>535933367In my estimation and experience of the collegiate system in America, which I pray is not reflective of these systems the world over, although I have my doubts--all of the corruption and decay and malignant ideology made brazen with a lack of critique... how would I solve that? I would make Pol Pot look like a fucking joke.
>>535929438university should be freeit's entirely feasiblethe issue is that only 5-10% of 18-23 year olds have any business attending a university (and that's being extraordinarily generous)for the other 90% it's just 4 years of goyimball circuses, binge drinking and date rape to the tune of 200,000$ debt.
>>535933367>the university system is dead - it should be raided and taken from them by armed men who want to run a college - campus by campus. fuck them allfor his obvious faults, Mencius Moldberg))) correctly ascertained that our whole wretched situation really only ends with tanks in Harvard Yard. nothing less will suffice
>>535938087>only 5-10% of 18-23 year olds have any business attending a universityI'd say 15% but you're essentially right in this
