Are the most ridiculous religion. Like they appeared in 1900 60 years ago and their entire "muh anglo Saxon culture" is less than a century old and already declining. Nothing relevant came from these people other than degeneracy prostitution and destruction by weaponisation of science. They grossly misunderstand science anyway they use it to replace the lost aspects of god instead of understanding that god isn't a fucking tool.
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>>535964230You're a secret within a sect
They're "baptists" but they don't even baptize themselves lol
>>535963968Uhh Lutherans kicked off the whole Protestant wave in the 1500s. Calvinists came very shortly after as they didn't accept that is means is. No idea why you think that is 60 years ago.
>>535965950Calvinism and baptism are among the worst religions ever made
>>535966438Most of the early Calvinists splits were just to be different country's churches. An example would be the "split" that ended up as the church of Scotland. It is not really the same thing as all the modern denominational splits. Modern splits are just "I disagree with X about Y. I'm going to go start my own church" instead of just sorting out the arguments and praying to God to find the truth of the matter. Schisming is a sin, unless you are literally kicked out of the Church like the early Protestants or the Orthodox (or the Roman Catholics, whichever way you look at it). All the modern ones who leave instead of pushing back on preachers pushing unbibilical things like gay marriage are sinning as they should be trying to fix the existing church. Don't get me started on non-demonimationals(who usually are theologically baptist, just refusing to be part of an organization).
>>535966438You're basically elevating yourself to the rank of a priest and your priest/pastor to the rank of a bishop
>>535966839Whatever Calvinist church you've got traces back to no earlier than the 1800s. If you were British or swedish or German I'd believe you're from the 1500s but even now Calvinism itself is split between various branches,as is baptism. It's a belief system that thinks if you truly believe you're saved you're saved without relying on true divine grace and miracles which only occur in orthodox churches.
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>>535967081>if you truly believe [...] you're savedcorrect> the vilest offender who truly helieves, that moment from Jesus a pardon recieves. praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the earth hear your voice, praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the people rejoice, for God works salvation through Jesus His Son, to God be the glory great things hath He done
>>535967081I am not Calvinist, but that isn't understanding what they actually believe. They believe God picked everyone that will be saved at the moment the world started, so those who will be saved will end up in a Church which will lead to salvation. They don't really believe in free will in the context of being saved. They still believe people are saved by the sacrements of baptism and communion, just that God decided who would be getting those things.
>>535967451>They don't really believe in free will in the context of being savedand, since thats the most important thing, basically, they reject free will on the grounds that God knows before it happens. well, fundamental physics is indeterminate too, and outside of quantum physics is impossible to predict the future because of information theory anyway. but God knows. so its true that its impossible for anyone to know when a baby is conceived if that baby will be a vessel of honor or a vessel of God's wrath or the mother will murder him
>>535967451If there is no free will no agency there is nothing. Each human being each soul is a unique monad and it has its unique choices,god should not have favourites
>>535968225It's impossible to know at conception but later on according to them it becomes possible to know if they accept that dogma.I do not accept that the worst mass murderer like Hitler should be saved in the last moment of life. I believe ALL choices made by a soul do matter in it's process to salvation
>>535968601I generally agree with you, which is why I'm not a Calvinist. But they are still Christians and still are saved as they do believe in Jesus (just that Jesus setup everything so they would believe in him).It's just like how Catholics are save still, despite them adding a whole bunch of "required" things to do in life outside of believing in Jesus.
>>535966839you need to stop watching reformed Zoomer brainrot. If you think Christians have an obligation to sit in a church service ran by a lesbian pastor you are just as stupid as he is. And his entire idea of protestant apostolic succession is retarded and not even what Protestants believe.
>>535963968Guys the monks don't pray, what they actually did is have gay anal sex orgies. Read about it in Paul Johnson's history of Christianity.At times they would openly do sexual degeneracy.
>>535965058Akshually>among countless other martyrsThanks whore of babylon
>>535968908Who? And of course Protestants don't have apostolic succession. Are they thinking they do due to early protestsnt pastors being previously Catholic priests/monks? I can't remember if they ever got a Bishop to convert which would I think be the only way you could justify that.
>>535968730>I do not accept that the worst mass murderer like Hitler should be saved in the last moment of lifewell, the two theives crucified with the Lord, write whatever story you want about them, or anyone else. only God knows, and we can only imply based on greentext, so, you can greentext your reasons why you think someone is in hell
>>535963968Protestants are NOT Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZZt8YbF0VI
>>535968601You need to read all of Paul's writings kiketholic. I know readin ain't encouraged in your heretical cult though.
>>535968945>the monks don't pray, what they actually did is have gay anal sex orgiesaquinas surely wrote a lot, but if he had listened to his dad and gotten married he could still have done all the writing but his thoughts on marriage would be up to par with the rest of his thoughts
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>>535968601>Each human being each soul is a unique monadThere cannot be more than one Monad. It is in the name, Monad. Literally, the one. The whole idea behind the Monad is that we are all part of the same Monad.
>>535963968>Muslims believe in jesus and pray 5x a day>Grr bad!/pol/ bros?
>>535969183Redeemed Zoomer is some YouTuber that tells Protestants they have an obligation to reclaim the pozzed mainline denominations like PCUSA, ELCA, etc and that it is a sin to depart false teachers and join a church that still preaches the actual gospel.And yes he seems to believe that those mainline denoms have some degree of Catholic apostolic succession due to converted priests and bishops, which is his basis for saying why we have an obligation to stay with them even as they have female pastors preach "Jesus was an immigrant who had two dads".
>>535969602The confession of sins, or what we think are our sins, has powerful effects on the human being, psychologists are just now finding this out, but refusing to call it the same thing. There are deep human truths in the practice and dogma of the Catholic faith, and its theology is a science more rigorous than our modern "scientists" practice and preach.
>>535969934oh youre citing [1 Jn 1]> This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>535969865Ah, to be clear on my differences:1)I said creating a new church was bad, not switching demoninations. 2)ELCA isn't a mainline Protestant church no matter what they claim. They had their pastors kicked out of the seminary in the 60s and then 2-3 smaller Lutheran branches which took them in merged to form ELCA. 3)Doesn't his logic apply to all the later splits unless those splits took no pastors with them? If you are splitting and no pastors follow you, you should question if what you are doing is Godly/Biblical.
