Socialist democrats keep winning
>>535972205I would just call this rules enforced capitalism but whatever
>>535972205What the fuck is a S*rb doing caring about American politics?
>>535973073brown pride worldwide
>>535972205I fucking hate that rat Mamdani more than all the other rats. Is there any fucking politician that understands economics anymore? All this is going to do is make the job creators move to another state that is more business friendly like Florida or Texas. Trump should rally a call from wealthy donors and have this moron ousted
>>535973073if a mexican like you can care about US politics, so can we.
>>535973006capitalism can't exist if there's regulationsthis is pure socialism
>>535973361There's a curve to that.
>>535973073Different Serb but I'll explain.Politics everywhere is a mix of actual politics and circus. In countries like Serbia, the politics to circus ratio is skewed too hard toward circus, so it's not engaging. In developed European countries, they're skewed too hard toward actual politics, so it's boring.USA has the perfect balance of circus and actual politics. Your politicians do absolutely clownish shit, but it's in the context of very serious societal dilemmas. It's interesting to observe, and we also don't get too invested in who wins. Unlike domestic politics, where you're butthurt about bad results.
>>535972205OH NO NOT THE PARASITIC LANDLORDS!!!HOW IS THE ECONOMY GOING TO SURVIVE WITH THESE GUYS NOT WORKING SO HARD AT WAITING FOR A HANDOUT???
>>535973361what do non-primary residences have to do with job creators, retard?
>>535973493That is absolute horse shit. Capitalism has rules and consequences for breaking those rules. Who's rules? Whatever rules the citizens of the country that is practicing capitalism decide, that's who. "Capitalism" w/o rules is oligarchy. Retard
>>535973977I never understood why people defend landlords, no they are not good for business, they create demand in the housing market, extract value out of workers which then ask for high salaries to their boss, or sometimes they just refuse a job because everything nearby is on rent and very expensive, much more than if someone was desperate to sell because there would be no landlords.
>>535974555I personally think renting should be illegal and home (house, apartment, condo etc.) ownership should be mandatory. To me, that would be pure capitalism. People should actually own the capital that they use everyday, like their homes
>>535973361>economicsJewish faggotry. Money exists to help the people. They won't move anywhere because NYC is where the money is.>b-but they'll leaveThey won't. They especially won't leave to go to shitholes like Florida and Texas. Flyover states are for data centers, not jobs.
>>535974925>People should actually own the capital that they use everyday, like their homesYou are a communist, or a democratic socialist(communism lite) respectively. I agree with you, but there is a big difference between the people owning their own capital and people serving capital.
>>535977172Citizens owning their own, personal capital and not renting it is peak capitalism. Fucking kill yourself
>>535972205Social democrats never win on anything fundamental, like civilizational continuity. A social democrat's main claim to fame is appeasing the short term interests of women and faggy men; more gibs, more "tax the rich" resentment politics, more feel good faggotry. I'm not even saying I'm siding with landlords or other parasites, it's just impossible for anyone who is ideologically aligned with societal cancerous ideologies like feminism, progressive liberalism, mass migration, etc, to ever actually do anything beneficial for a nation.
>>535977815Renting IS peak capitalism. Money exists to make more money. That's it.We are currently living in peak capitalism. We will own nothing.
>>535977938Mamdani is pretty beneficial for this city.>it's just impossible for anyone who is ideologically aligned with societal cancerous ideologies like feminism, progressive liberalism, mass migration, etc, to ever actually do anything beneficial for a nation.You've been socially conditioned by McCarthyism to believe this. My ceiling was leaking water for weeks. I swear to god the day Mamdani got elected my landlord fixed every single thing in my shitty apartment. You need to have hope. Things CAN and WILL get better. We can't ever stop trying to make our society better.
>>535978405Okay bud, I'll explain:Capitalism is a set of nationwide, federally backed financial policies that ensure the existence of a free and open market, wherein, the producers of goods are forced to compete for the business of the buyers of goods and not the other way aroundAnything outside of this definition is not capitalism, it automatically becomes something else. Everything you personally hate is not capitalism and just saying "not uh" is not going to be a valid argument to anybody lurking. Capitalism is not a tool for millionaires and billionaires to keep the status quo and continue to get richer and richer, sorry cope. That is called oligarchy and every attempt you assholes make to try and scape goat oligarchy with capitalism shows your true character. Asshole
>>535977938lol turn off the VPN Ken Griffin.
>>535972205I dont want him to succed simply because i dont want third world socialists and immigrants legitimizedyes im racistno, class warfare isnt all there is to life
>>535978794>Capitalism is a set of nationwide, federally backed financial policies that ensure the existence of a free and open market, wherein, the producers of goods are forced to compete for the business of the buyers of goods and not the other way aroundThis doesn't exist anymore. Maybe that was what capitalism was supposed to be, but it's not anymore. You do have some good points, though. Oligarchy is the system, but capitalism is the tool. That's how billionaires utilize capital. Buying all the homes, owning your data through data centers and spying on you. Forcing you to rent your life away. The billionaires and millionaires use their capital for this end. Maybe at one point capitalism was a good thing but it's not anymore. Capitalism may not be the end state, but it's how we got here. People do not own their capital.
>>535979820I see you have chosen "not uh", Very good
>>535979906How was that a nuh-uh? Stop being a faggot and tell me where I'm wrong. I want to discuss this with you.>I personally think renting should be illegal>ownership should be mandatory>that would be pure capitalismand yet>Capitalism is a set of nationwide, federally backed financial policies that ensure the existence of a free and open market, wherein, the producers of goods are forced to compete for the business of the buyers of goods and not the other way aroundCan you tell me how these two points coincide? I agree with your first point, but I don't really understand how these two points work together. Private ownership(capitalism) =/= mandatory ownership.
>>535979820>Capitalism is a set of nationwide, federally backed financial policies that ensure the existence of a free and open market, wherein, the producers of goods are forced to compete for the business of the buyers of goods and not the other way around>Anything outside of this definition is not capitalism, it automatically becomes something elseThe English language is not a lump of clay that you can shape into anything you fucking want
>>535979216The other side are international jews so you're improving
>>535980356Stop getting stuck on linguistics. I'm talking about function, and people, and the system. Tell me what system are we under, right now.
>>535980525You will do anything to call oligarchy capitalism and I'm not here for it. Fuck you
>>535973624Hey vaxbrain. What stops me from forming Steinberg Home LLC in the place newyork, to hold my title and pass through all costs, while I live in Florida? Nothing, thats what. No tax for Zohran.
>>535980635Oligarchy is not capitalism, but it's how we got here. Capitalism is NOT oligarchy.Capitalism IS WHY we are under oligarchy. Am I making sense? It's not a big deal to admit that a few hundred bad actors fucked the whole thing up. Happens often in history, kek
>>535980663The LLC would still be taxed.
>>535980740>It's not a big deal to admit that a few hundred bad actors fucked the whole thing upAnd so we should throw THE ENTIRE FUCKING SYSTEM out the window because of a few bad apples instead of rolling up our sleeves and dealing with these fucking traitors??!! Is that what you are saying?? Fucking moron
>>535972205I fully support taxing kikes into oblivion, but I have zero confidence that they will succeed in doing so. There are too many strategies to avoid taxes the rich can use, and Democrats won't address any of them.
>>535980400and the third world socialists walked them into power through grievance griftingwe dont need that but 'just without jews' that they pivoted to after palestine bullshitits still jewish bullshit
>>535980930>And so we should throw THE ENTIRE FUCKING SYSTEM out the windowNo. What? Hell no. This is actually the best thing about Democratic Socialism. You get all the benefits of democracy, socialism, AND capitalism. Like the second holy trinity Stop living in such absolutes, senpai. This is not a binary problem, capitalism may be fucked right now due to bad actors but i genuinely believe we can still salvage this. Billionaires must be castrated on an economic level. Not you, not the person who's making hundreds of thousands of dollars more than you. I am talking about the 1%. That's going to be the true great reset
>>535980865If it isnt just a tax on out of town owners, then yes. But if so, it will quickly get struck down in court. You cant tax people for simply not occupying a house.
>>535981240>Pivot>Pivot>PivotYou only know how to pivot the conversation and move the goal post, it's the only viable strategy you have because your ideology is retarded and you know it. I'm done with you
>>535973453>serb>german >we
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>>535981396You may be done but I'm just getting started. I enjoyed talking with you, you and I are a lot more alike than we are different. The OP? That's just the beginning.>>535981390>You cant tax people for simply not occupying a houseWe should. Houses are for living in. Not for rich people to use as tax breaks, we gotta cut that shit short.
>>535973361Billionaires are economic leeches that tricked the masses into believing any inconvenience to them is the devil.
>>535978574>I'm a broke faggot who's shit ceiling finally got fixed, this solves the structural problems with a failing nation that produces nothing, mass imports the third world, and has negative birthrates.You're all just far too stupid to even entertain with discourse at this point. A literal zombie horde who can't think more than five seconds past their own retardation.
>>535973493Sneethe about it, rabbi. Now people might actually get to live in houses instead of you and your ilk hoarding them for profit and driving prices to the moon.
>>535981579>leafDude, you're Indian.>this solves the structural problems with a failing nationI never said so. But it's a start. All changes start on the individual level. >produces nothingThere's a solution to this.>mass imports the third worldThere's a solution to this.>negative birthratesThere's a solution to this. Increasing the quality of life. Free daycares.Democratic socialism is the future. Also, you're an Indian. Kill yourself.