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>spanking your kids is bad
Is Sam right?
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>>535990581
I fantasize about beating up my future son
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>>535990581
Yes. But only because hitting your child requires you to be a retard who never had a chance at a good bond to begin with.
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modern new england yankees are spiritually jewish
sam is also probably genetically jewish
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>profile says
>list of things that make my kike blood boil
Sam is more feminine than he thinks he is.
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>>535990581
It's pretty retarded and not necessary if you actually raise your kids right; like Dr. Jekyl says there a timeout and explanation of what they did wrong and how it affects others is enough.
t. have several nephews I took care of in my 20's while unemployed and I managed to correct their behavior without ever laying a hand on them.
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There has literally never been any evidence to suggest that a kid who was spanked ends up better off as an adult than a kid who wasn't spanked.
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>>535990581
>tfw I was spanked once AND circumcised at birth (despite not even being American or Muslim)
I will never forgive my parents, nor I will ever not be angry at them.
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>>535990581
born in 81 here. i was spanked and got the wooden spoon a few times, but i have three kids under 10 and we do not spank. not because of any family policy but just because it doesnt occur to us. i am a stay at home dad so by virtue of me being a man the kids stay in line. also we homeschool and we keep an open line of communication so the kids always talk to us and express themselves. our kids are very accountable and responsible when they go out to play. as a result our kids are very well mannered and we get compliments on our kids behavior all the time. spanking as a first line disciplinary action is definitely low iq.
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>>535990581
Hitting your kids is very much a brown thing. Only retards defend it. If the only way you can get your child to bend to your will is physical violence then you are retarded.
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>>535990581
Complete bullshit. Kids are 100% capable of engaging in psychopath/sociopath behavior that absolutely does require physical correction to stop. I got spanked 1 time in my entire life and it was the single biggest favor my dad ever did me. I watched him refuse to ever spank my sisters and all that did was teach them they can get away with being shitty people.

Now *beating* your kids is a different story. There is absolutely a huge difference between discipline and abuse.
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>>535990581

punishment doesnt work, HITLER indoctrination does
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>>535991103
/thread
the rest is going to just be faggots that think spanking is 'first line disciplinary action' and cannot understand physical discipline vs abuse
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I don’t find beating my legacy attractive
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>>535991390.

trvke.
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>>535990581
Wait shit did Sam Hyde actually say this?
I know he’s quite a bit smarter than he lets on with the ridiculous over-the-top comical jerk persona for the comedy and art, even bookish and likes reading, but this is really intelligently written, even for him.

I half-suspect OP or someone made this up as high-level bait for discussion here and elsewhere on the Internet kek, I will look it up and figure it out soon though
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>>535991241
My parents were good sweet people, and you know what I did that got me ass reddened? I threw a cat on my mom and cut her arms. It would have done real damage to me as a person if my dad *didn't* spank me for that. When he ran into the room and grabbed me and spanked me, I immediately put 2 and 2 together that "oh I hurt someone because I didn't care, I get it now" if my dad had been a faggot and tried to have a conversation with me about it, it would have just signaled weakness to me and changed nothing about my bad behavior.
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>>535990581
What has always been fascinating to me is boomers who beat their kids, boys and girls, yet have some weird moral fag stance about never hitting women. The kind of brainrot you need to have to think something like that is fucking wild.
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If only we had donated more than one (1) dollar...
Repeat after me:
I'm sorry Mr. Molyneaux!
>I'm sorry Mr. Molyneaux!
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>>535991390
This
Why would I use violence against my own flesh and blood? They're the last people I'd ever think to strike.
And yes, I have two kids.
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>>535991191
>>535991418

auslander like me but i hate auslander

does that sound familiar?
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>>535991525
there are many situations where physical discipline is important
faggy euros and spiritual jews are now talking about "beating their legacy"
don't worry, some muslim will rape your legacy instead
getting spanked might have led them to grow into less cucked adults
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>>535990581
swift spank or 2 then a stern talking to
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I got spanked and turned out fine, but me and my parents don't talk.
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Lol I'd love to see the obnoxious miserable little retard Sam would raise if he ever succeeded at reproducing (he won't).
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>>535990581

I found people who beat their children to generally be repulsive, horrible human beings. There's a difference between disciplining your children by not giving everything want freely and being a nigger who beats their children. Niggers are some of the biggest proponents of physical violence and look at how bad their entire "culture' turned out
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>>535990581
Reminder that men used beat their wives for thousands of years until the late 1800s. Teenage boys used to be allowed to slap their mothers.
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>>535990581
Am I a retard or how does smacking someone's rear lower their IQ?
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I think it’s totally appropriate to hit your kid when they cross that line, but with 99% of kids that will be exceptionally rare you should never hit them so hard it could injure them. I remember one time I called my mom a bitch and she smacked me, not really hard but just hard enough to sting and make me feel the immediate consequences of what I said. I think that was totally fine in retrospect.
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>>535990581
>walmart pajama people
LOL okay i admit that made me laugh. Sam's still got it.
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>>535991785
Yeah I mean beatings are only a problem if they’re injurious. Meaning, beating are only a problem if they walk away with more than pain. If you beat someone so hard it injures them or feels like torture, that is pretty obviously going way far.
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>>535990581
op is a spamming cunt
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>>535991676
My dad was very skilled at parenting and knew exactly when to use force and how much. He never laid a hand on me other than that 1 time when I was really asking for it, and I never felt like I couldn't talk to him or relax around him. He was good about demonstrating the *capability* for violence without actually using it. Like one time I threw a can out the car window when I was 8, and my dad stomped the break and did the hardest most violent fucking tire skidding U-turn you could imagine just to go back to where I threw the can so I could pick it up. Stuff like that where you only get fear put into you about doing things that are actually objectively bad and not just things that your parent finds annoying.
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>>535991832
Yes you're a retard and big men like me are going to hit you.
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>>535990581
Hit your kids but explain why you did it so the child can learn. Sam has become such a pussey since his "besetest friend" died
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>>535990581
Quick physical corrections to stop dangerous or insulting actions are fine, the same as with adults.

Beating them, even "gently" is not.
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>>535991780
Yeah if niggers beating their kids like massa upset they didnt meet their quota doesnt work it does call into question how effective it is.

All the people I know who got regularly spanked growing up all became chronically angry alcoholics who beat their own kids so I think there is some truth to what he's saying.
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>>535990581
Honestly he's probably right. I ended up an autistic avoidant retard after years of bullying and physical abuse.
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>>535991957
skilled at making you trauma bond on 4chan, get back to work goyim u embarrass yourself
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>>535991850
Literally no one actually believes in 0 physical discipline. They're always really obviously lying about how effective their parenting is. Behind closed doors it is common for young kids to act out and throw explosive tantrums and even if you hate doing it, literally no one doesn't occasionally use physical discipline.
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>>535991957
My dad beat the fuck out of me for little shit and did other stuff to intimidate me like pin me down and scream in my face or whatever and while I think of him as an asshole, it didn’t fuck me up. I think the hard truth there is no science to what makes a kid grow up to behave the ways they do. Everyone wants to pretend kids are like piano keys, but they’re not.p
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>>535991103
>He had to spank me to get me to stop doing something
Did you try not being a faggot?
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>>535990581
>Is Sam right?
Yes. All hitting your kids teaches is you are an incompetent leader and to resent you. Kids need discipline not corporal punishment. What does discipline mean? It means showing them you mean what you say, it means no empty threats - it means setting the example not demanding it materialize.
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The whole "just reason with a hysterical 4 year old" only comes out of the mouths of people who never had a child.
If Sam understands you can't reason with a nigger he should understand why you can't reason with barely developed children. It's the same thing.
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you can really sense the immense faggotry and weakness from anons who equate spanking with beating, or pretend that physical discipline is always bad
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>>535992067
This is total horse shit lmao.
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How are white children supposed to grow up to become ruthless aryan ubersoldaten to cleanse the world like Sam wants if he's too afraid to even spank them? That's how you make theater kid pussies lik-

Oh wait
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>>535990581
>Be me
>Get ass beat by dad
>Do not like
>Start going to the gym
>7th grade, now too big and strong to get ass beat
>Whatisthispower
>Start utilizing my power on other kids
Yeah beating your kids is probably not a good idea.
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>>535992056
What trauma lol? I had a good relationship with my parents and I'm not circumcised. You go back to work lmao
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>>535990581
I think it depends on the situation.. let's say your kid intentionally takes a shit on your bed.. sure if you're indian you'd eat it, but if you're not, maybe a couple smacks would be appropriate..
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>>535992277
Yeah I believe you for sure. You do gay speech checks because your charisma stat is just so high because life is like a video game and 5 year olds always listen to FACTS and LOGIC. Go fuck yourself lmao
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>For goyim
100% correct along with sending your kids to school.
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>>535990581
Myself and my siblings were spanked. If I had kids I would do the same because it's obvious that kids who are not disciplined need it. The body understands pain. It's like if you were bullied or got into fights as a kid. It made you more rounded for adulthood. People who never were spanked, never were punched, all have grown up to be entitled pussies.
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>>535991621
>>535991780
>>535991095
I have spent nearly a decade undoing emotional damage that my in laws have done to my wife by spanking and beating her
My in laws said that they would absolutely spank my children if they acted up
My response was that if they did that after I told them not to, then they would be “acting up” and I would beat them until I felt they had learned their lesson
They seemed upset, but when you want people to live by the rule of strength, you can’t say shit to a 33 year old 6’1 weightlifter who weighs 245lb when you’re a 5’7 diabetic boomer on ozempic with a fake hip

>>535992193
What makes you think beating someone with no understanding of the world because they’ve been here for a whopping 48 months is going to do anything other than make them resent you and want to kill you?
Are you retarded? Do you get assistance with intellectual tasks from the government?
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>>535992425
>It's like if you were bullied or got into fights as a kid. It made you more rounded for adulthood

I had a kid who bullied me as a kid, and I prayed for him to die and got super happy when he actually did die in a car crash. I remember thinking the people who cried about him being dead were pieces of shit for loving him.
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>>535990581
if it's a somber ritualized consequence it's fine
if it's done in anger, it's trash behavior
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the goyim the goyim are gay and retarded
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>>535992491
> somber ritualized consequence
This is exactly how you get faggots in latex paying old women to whip their balls with a riding crop
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continue to listen to Sam Hyde's advice. I am sure you life will work out just fine. his married with kids right?
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>>535992371
The 5 year olds in my family aren't retarded niggers so yes, they do.
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>>535992478
>>535992484
>wishing death upon people from physical altercations
lmao, these bitch asses did not learn the appropriate lessons
>>535992491
>somber
>done in anger
a very important point, but lost on the spiritual jews and faggots itt
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>>535992478
He didn't say beat you trashy faggot, he said there's an inevitable break in a kids mind and it can happen for a million bullshit reasons. Because he's 4. Very light physical discipline is legal and acceptable and has been for 10000 years show me the enlightened civilization with accomplishments and success that vehemently believed in never disciplining a child physically. It's hippie bullshit.
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Households that consume alcohol take corporal punishment too far and then use the same excuse to say it's wrong. What's actually wrong is for parents to get drunk out of their fucking mind and then beat their kids calling at corporal punishment which is basically 99% of the corporal punishment stories I've heard from western nurse and other people with alcohol in their house.


They conveniently leave all of this shit out when we recalling their trauma either because they do not remember or they are attempting to save face online or in public
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>>535990581
>reflexively apologise all the time
so hitting your kids makes them british?
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>>535992484
He also made you less of a pussy, I guarantee it. Bullies are a necessary menace. They keep psychos out of the village.
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>>535992610
>lmao, these bitch asses did not learn the appropriate lessons

But I did. You just aren't teaching someone the lesson you think you are when you abuse and mistreat them, because you're super fucking retarded.
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>>535990581
Sam is right. Hitting your kids is top 3 brownest things somebody could do. You shouldn't hit kids, dogs, or women, ever... unless you find yourself in a bizarre self-defense situation I guess.
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when you think of 4chan you remember this id
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>>535992736
>They keep psychos out of the village.

Bullies *are* the psychos in the village anon.
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>>535990581
Why is Sam Hyde an authority on anything but comedy? If you guys unironically see yourselves as lesser than him and look up to him, you require the opposite of his advice.
Smacking your kids ass is not "beating them" and the expectation that you could be physically confronted by someone if you fuck up is a good thing to have instilled into you
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>>535992659
>thousands of niggers do it so it’s okay
Jews do not beat their kids, though they are perfectly fine publishing all kinds of data and arguments to show the goyim about how physical abuse makes your kids great and fun and awesome
You’re in control of literally every aspect of their life. You’re not inventive enough to come up with a punishment that doesn’t involve being a literal faggot and touching children’s bare asses?
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>>535992780
Would you rather a kid who stuffs kids in lockers or would you rather a school shooter? We used to bully kids and had less school shooters. Kids used to fight in the school yard and shake hands after while their parents watched.
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>>535990848
>sam is also probably genetically jewish
sam is a jew. not probably, when he cuts the script to explain his backstory he will tell you he's a leon trotsky kike. 95% of the time he's constantly mumbling his comedy script.
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>>535990581
Sam Hyde's dad should have hit him. Actually he should have just killed him and buried his corpse in the woods.
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>>535991095
>Hitting your kids is very much a brown thing.
This is completely true, but brown children need it. It raises IQ in shitskin development and actually lowers aggression for them because they lack natural empathy so they need to be struck to understand not to strike others. Niggers that get beat end up better than niggers that get spoiled; time outs and other white discipline does nothing for them because at best they can only think 20 minutes into the future or the past and need deep set trauma to stay in line.
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>>535992830
>jews, goyim, ur actually gay if you smack your kids ass
Just utter nonsense. Kill yourself.
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>>535992841
>Would you rather a kid who stuffs kids in lockers or would you rather a school shooter?

lmao at you not working out the correlation between these two things
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>>535992841
>school shooter
You mean impressionable person groomed by the FBI on discord? Most school shooters were spanked. Look at their parents, they’re all dysgenic, abusive retards.
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I completely forgot, World Peace literally had a skit talking about how bullying was based and kept kids in line. He goes against his own message of his show.
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>>535990581
Not disagreeing but how many kids does Sam have?
Does he talk about fatherhood often?
Why is he referencing studies and "academics" now? Thought that was all bullshit....
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>>535990581
I was hit all the time as a child, threatened with it on occasion as well.

Sam is right. I'm pretty sure my dad hitting me so hard turned me gay.
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>>535992793
idk what your problem is but the joke here is psychopathic hypocrisy, like 99% of this thread wouldnt even leave bruises with their punches so the discussion of child abuse is like an actual discussion to them instead of a life or death thing to actual strong people
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>>535992193
I reason with my 2.5 year old son. We have full on conversations. I’m sorry you have a slow child.
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>>535990985
Millenials are a lot of fucking evidence.
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trustie speaks out of his ass
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>>535990848
Ironically, southrons, who not only fought for Rothschild jews in the civil war, but are also descended from them, are notorious for not disciplining their kids.
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>>535992793
Sammy hasn’t been funny for almost a decade at this point. He is, however, based. And for that reason, I’m in.
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>>535992935
Bullying is crowdfunded social hygiene performed by equals and compatriots
Fingering your kids’ ass because they talked back at Outback Steakhouse is your parent being an untrustworthy psycho
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>>535992935
everything he does is satire. he's one of the rare not so much zionist jews. why do you think there are conflicting messages? that's the script, his actual takes are slightly bleeding heart jewish. rare for jews
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>>535992067
Man handling (picking up, grabbing by the arm, forcing to put shoes on, etc) is not the same as hitting.
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Historically, physical punishment of children is associated with high-stakes issues and unforgiving environments. Hunter-gatherer tribes that live in relatively abundant areas will often practice little or no physical punishment. If a child breaks something or loses some bit of food or hurts someone, they will be scolded or only symbolically punished such as with a literal slap on the wrist. This is probably not a conscious decision but just a reflection of the fact that the lost bit of food or lost equipment doesn't matter that much; it will be replaced; while the relationship with the child is of course paramount.

Not all hunter-gatherer tribes lived in such areas however. In places where food is precious and scarce, a child's decision to open the animal pen and let animals wander out, for instance, may literally cause someone's death via starvation. In these places corporal punishment tends to be used. Compliance is a matter of life and death, and children may not respect a conversation the same way they'll respect the threat or reality of pain.

For a modern person, you may consider the following examples.
Your child picks up a Barbie doll and throws it into a river. Your instinct will probably be to scold the child, but not hit them. Barbies are cheap, and this one can be replaced.
You are on the sidewalk next to a busy street. Your child begins running towards the busy street, because they are mad at you and want to disobey you. Your instinct will probably be to grab the child and yank them by whatever limb you grab back away from the street, which will hurt them. That's reasonable since the consequences of running into the street are high and conversation won't work quickly enough.

So for a modern person, I would suggest very sparing violence. Due to our abundance there are few circumstances where stakes are high enough to warrant pain compliance.
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>>535992478
Because even a dog understands negative reinforcement.
A two year old can work out don't touch the stove.
A kid is also smart enough to work out time out only exists and the consent of the time-outed, ie they can just walk away. For an older kid that same principal applies to things like grounding. And I think escalating time out's enforcement into things like locking a kid in a closet are more abusive that physical correction.
>>535992975
It's not intelligence. Your kid's goycattle with no independent streak.
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>>535990581
disagreeing with sam on this one. needs to be done for some kids. it's why juvy boot camps exist. some kids are psychopaths right out of the womb and simply don't give a fuck about timeouts or whatever
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>>535993125
the normal answer is just make more babies if that one was stupid and weak and died to animals
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>>535991051
>i am a stay at home dad
>by virtue of me being a man

LOL. pick one, faggot.
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>>535990581
No it's perfectly fine just don't go overboard or hit too hard.
Not enough kids getting spanked today and look at where we are in this world?
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>>535990985
Have you seen how kids behave these days?

>>535991095
It was always an English thing and is literally protected under common law.
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He's 100% right.
And if you disagree then let me beat your kids instead.
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>>535993183
Honestly I would rather hit a child then let them become a ward of the state and that comes from a good place.
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>>535993109
>Man handling

These days, it’s called “helping your body.”

>If you won’t put on your shoes, I’m gonna help your body.

>If you won’t get into your seat, I’m gonna help your body.
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>>535993125
Try explaining to a toddler why what they're doing is bad.
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>>535993287
*than.
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Almost Every "anti spanking" post is 1pbtid
Interesting
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>>535993285
I could kill you without breaking a sweat
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>>535990654
Kek I don’t know why this made me laugh so hard
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>>535990581

Kids like being beaten when they know they have been bad. If you beat kids for making mistakes like with homework and stuff, or for dropping something, or just if you do something that happens to annoy them, and there's no method to it, and the kid thinks they might get killed and if the parent doing it is also violent to the other parent and other kids etc, honestly? that's going to create some problems.
The reasons and conditions are really the most important thing. If you're a good parent, they will be glad they got whooped. If you are a bad parent? Oh boy. You're training kids to be both easily afraid and, oddly, capable of self control in a state of fear (to scared to run away)

If the slightest thing causes terror, and you reach an age where you meet terror with very hostile calculating anger due to adult male biology, you will basically want to kill ANYONE who crosses you while also probably being quick to say sorry, quick to forgive, feel guilt for intimidating people, or unable to tolerate the presence of anyone who isn't basically a 10/10 human. They will go "too far" with violence and seem worse than they actually are to normal people.
I'd say it's important to get those guys into sparring and get them around nice people and socialise them. Girls will be a high risk for these guys because girls will just do manipulative shit for entertainment sometimes and if they don't meet friendly males, especially adult males with responsibility, they are going to basically have the mentality of outlaws because, well, everyone is a predator and you don't ever want to be a scared kid again.
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>>535991525
Even the bible says “Those who spare the rod hate their children, but those who love them are diligent to discipline them”. Actions speak louder than words.
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>>535990581
I got hit as a child for any "bad" thing that I did.
I'm convinced it's the reason I'm an under confident, anxious, high inhib beta cuck as an adult.
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>>535993390
Pfff I could immure you in my oubliette for 50 years subsisting on dog food until you voluntarily choose to end your own life without breaking a sweat.

And your wife and children would both thank me for it for ridding themselves of their abusers.
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>>535992610
>lmao, these bitch asses did not learn the appropriate lessons
Literally just proved his point….
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>>535993532
I will fill you with cum until you pop like a greedy tick
Then I would keep you alive with technology and make you watch the Parent Trap for 500 years
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>>535993143
> Your kid's goycattle with no independent streak.

No, but he is verbal.
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>>535993470
That doesn't mean you have to literally use a rod like in the Bronze Age. Holy shit, this is why the Bible is bad for (stupid) people.
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I haven't spanked any of my kids. Sometimes I want to, but I just walk away at that point. The big thing is not giving warnings before punishment. You just punish and move on.
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>>535990581
How has nobody posted the pic of the tranny? "girl"? he hit?
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>>535993532
>>535993590
One is never too old for a spank! So shut your traps before I IRL trace your IP addresses and book flights just to spank you!
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>>535993590
Ok what's the downside.
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>>535993125
>Due to our abundance
4 words, undid all the twaddle you typed out. "Its okay shaykeele, feel free to behave like a nigger, because of abundance" "Don't worry about impending danger, the value of money, self respect, consideration, thoughtfulness etc because of abundance, live free Joshua, without a care in the world!"
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>>535993004
Millenials are the ones that got their shit slapped though. The no hitting began with Millenial parents.
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I was planning on never spanking my kids, but god gave me one that had a stroke in-utero that damaged her prefrontal cortex, and another one that is a non-verbal autist. Neither of them can be disciplined with a timeout or an explaination of why what they did was wrong. They require immediate sharp correction of bad behavior and immediate reward of good behavior. Raising my kids is basically like training working dogs and I even clicker-trained both of them. I guess years of training and using dogs to work livestock prepared me to be a tard wrangler, which is what I'm going to be for the rest of my life. At least they're still young and there's potential for them to have a chance at life, my daughter especially.
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>>535993640
And most of us don't, belts are also too harsh desu, but I was smacked and I'm glad I was.
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>>535990581
Eh, the problem is that parents are, far more often than not, totally unequipped to raise a child in the modern world. No standard path forward, no stable community to assist in rearing, and not even a stable sense of self.
Physical punishment made sense in times when danger and time stress warranted a quick effective solution, corporal punishment. If a child were possibly going to destroy a month’s earnings or a life necessary piece of equipment, they need to be stopped. If life was so difficult that time did not permit a calm regimented education, then there needed to be a way to make things function with a child.
Today, we have wild children incapable of figuring out our complex world and parents either working too much or consumed by dopamine plugging media. Toss onto that it is culturally acceptable and it’s no wonder that it persists.
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Pinocchio by Walt Disney is a good learning curve... People who encourage children to become spoilt brats are people with bad intent.
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>>535990581
It's last resort and symptomatic of low IQ parents, but it's quite obviously not 'same category as circumcision' unless you're slapping chunks of their cock off with every strike.

I don't like this kind of folksy common sense delivered in a way that accidentally legitimises the worst examples of behaviour from an all-bad set.
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>>535993646
That’s actually the opposite of how you’re supposed to punish. The whole point is to set a line and tell them what happens if they cross that line. These anti spanking people are conflating literal abusers with people who spank in a responsible way. My son knows exactly what behavior will get him spanked.
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>>535990581
The reason more Americans beat their kids is that we have way more brown people here than we did in the past.
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>>535990581
I think it's proven science at this point that being physically violent with your kids, like hitting, smacking and spanking is less effective than other means of punishment and corrective behavioral control, in fact it probably produces the opposite desired effect or makes the behavior you are trying to fix worse. It's both traumatic for the child and the adult and doesn't produce the desired response, that doesn't mean parents shouldn't defend themselves or fight back if they have a 300lb tardson or some other outlying situation, but generally it's not helpful
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>>535994059
>"I don't believe in hitting my children".
15 years later.
>"I'm a real Woman now my Discord chat group told me so".

Every time!
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my nephew (in-laws)
>circumcised
>iPad as soon as he could hold it
>spanked
i was not surprised when he was diagnosed with autism
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>>535994059
Why do you keep equating discipline with being brown? Do you think Europeans didn't also discipline their children?
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>>535994167
You're forgetting:
>injected with 20 different vaccines before he's even a month old
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>>535994107
Science can eat my shit.
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>>535994167
I wasn't given a game console until I was 9 and before that it was those cheap joysticks. I miss those days, I had Autism and struggled a lot but times were simpler.
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>>535990581
If you have to hit your kids it's because they (and you, since intelligence is mostly heritable) are too stupid to understand anything else. And it doesn't even really get them to understand what they did was wrong, it just teaches them not to get caught.
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>>535994425
fuck, I shouldn't have used that word, huh
that's a no no trigger word for you faggot retards
shoulda used proven by evidence, my bad
go browse kikebook for a few minutes to cool off, retard
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>>535990581
Neither Millennials nor Gen Z got spanked and both generations turned out to be faggots. Correlation?
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>>535994107
Your post is somewhat contradictory. Physical punishment, conditioning or a means to instil valuable traits is beside the point. You've got to punish, condition, teach regardless. If you and your child have the mental capacity to figure that out without being physical great. But I would argue most do not. Therefore physical, is essential, because there has be a factor to control behaviour, punish, and instil values. If there isnt, you raise emotional retards or feral spastics that have no respect for anything or anyone.
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>>535990581
yes
hitting your kids is for niggers
only acceptable at all in cases where your kid was putting himself into serious danger and you pull him back and give him a moderate slap before explaining why was he was doing was extremely dangerous and why he should never do it again

rightist vice signalling is as obnoxious and retarded as leftist virtue signalling.
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>>535991015
>I will never forgive my parents
At our most defenseless and vulnerable they decided to fuck us over royally. They are not to be trusted.
The good news is that we can regenerate our funskins soon.
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>>535990581
It's completely necessary for some little demon children like one of my nephews, and many times it's literally for their own safety. He's always been a serious problem child (now about 5.5yo) and doesn't listen to one word my sister/BIL say AT ALL. The only way they can get him to stop doing things like trying to shove paperclips in outlets or try to drink weedkiller or whatever, and the only way to stop his violent tantrums where he abuses his little brothers, is to hit him because it's apparently the only language he understands. They've been taking him to doctors and he has gotten significantly better but he still has really bad days. It's pretty painfully obvious that something isn't right with him but until someone actually figures out wtf his issue is/he reaches the maturity level of actually listening to what his parents tell him to [/not] do, they have to hit him because they have no other choice. There's a difference between gently but firmly smacking your kid for the shock value and very clear "knock it the fuck off" message, and just beating the shit out of them over nothing. I've had the heavy creeping suspicion that my nephew has ODD/CD which is... grim. I feel bad for him but it's ridiculous what he puts my sister through, and as much as I hate to say it, to the point I almost wish she'd just put him in a basket floating down the river as a baby or whatever so he was someone else's problem to deal with.
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>>535990581
Anyone who thinks kids don't need to be spanked has probably never been a parent. I mean a real one, not step-parent. As in: that kid is your responsibility every way you cut it and is also your genetic material.
Maybe your kid doesn't need to be spanked. Raise them and figure it out. I know for a fact mine did. Biggest problem I had as a parent was my ex-wife didn't have the spine or backbone to not lose an argument to her own children. The result is they got to get away with anything around her and knew it. My kids knew if I told them not to do something and they did it there would be direct consequences. A spanking, losing a toy, etc.. No, I didn't always default to spanking them but I've carried all three of my sons out of a store before and made them sit in the car with me or gone home because they wouldn't act civilized. Now take a wild guess which of their parents they grew up to prefer.
This is such a Nothingburger argument and has been my whole life. I don't care how you discipline your kids, I care that it works and if you can't figure out what's too much for a fucking kid then you're a socially-stunted psychopath.
Not every kid is the same. Some never need to be disciplined much, some need it all the time - sometimes they change as they get older. I was a handful as a small kid but I was never one of those teenagers that gave my parents constant grief.
Either way if you have kids today as a man you are a fucking retard anyway. You have no rights as a father. You have no control or say in anything and will be undermined by every wing of society because jews made it that way, including most likely your own wife. Be incredibly discerning, do not ever lower your standards or cede control in the relationship in any way, throw her out the first time she doesn't act right. I promise you she'll crawl back if you do it right. But again, either way, you're really not missing as much as you think you are.
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>>535990581
You have 100 percent control of your kid's food and shelter. There's no reason to strike your kid.
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>>535991884
get em outta my wayy HEYYYYYYYYYYY
AYAYAYAYAYAYYYYYYYY
HOI HOI HOI
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>>535990581
I would never have guessed that sam has such a sensible soul.
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>>535993024
>southerners don't beat their kids
Only a nazbol could ever have such a weak grip on reality.
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>>535994777
too larpy, to be believable
better luck next time, dork
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>>535994967
t. has never had an extremely disobedient child
People act like children are just borderline homunculus mini-mes when in reality they're individuals who all act and react differently from one another. My sister and I were always extremely well behaved without even needing to be told to. Many parents do not have that liberty. A lot of kids just almost psychopathically double down when you punish them certain ways because they LOVE to shit test you and call your bluff on punishing them more severely. Most parents cave at that point and their behavior only ever gets worse and more neurotic rather than being immediately rectified. A mom cracking her kid on the ass with a wooden spoon is much more immediately effective and profoundly less traumatizing in the long term than starving your kid or pretending you're kicking them out or whatever other bullshit.
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>>535993211
>men are better than woman
>still enforces gender roles
Make it make sense
(Protip, the masculine path is I do what God says and the family follows)
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>>535990581
The whole point of beating your kids is so they don't grow up to be like Sam Hyde.
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>>535991444
Sam walks that line
Or
Better yet, he's the metronome, bouncing between esoteric truth and yiddish deceit. The Why must be too 5D chess for me to understand.
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This reeks of kike data mining thread to me. Don’t hit children though. hitting kids is nigger behavior
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>spank your children with a loving hand
>police spank them with bullets later
The choice is yours, not my problem nor do I care.
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>>535993125
>abundance
I'm sick of hearing about how we, "all live in abundance." No, we don't. An abundance of what and for who? Having a few creature comfort tech gizmos doesn't make you not fucking broke.
When my kids were small I was working way more than I was after they were older. I did not have the time nor the energy to argue with them about why they should put their shoes on before we went somewhere.
I once was driving to a funeral on a day off for someone very important in my ex-wife's family. The drive was over two and a half hours, just to get there. My son would NOT stay in his car seat. At the time I was on probation AND parole. I was NOT creating ANY situation where their dad was getting pulled over by cops. Hell no. I had just done 3 1/2 and was in a state that LOVES to bully felons, no matter what they're actually doing. We stopped so many times and eventually we could not stop or we would literally miss the funeral. Her family did not like me at this time and it was an uphill battle to even get them to like us; even then, they never did shit for us really. Her insistence on spending time with them when they clearly held us in contempt drove me up a wall. Eventually that changed, but that's another story.
Eventually, my wife got to a point where she had to LITERALLY grab a roll of duct tape out of one of my tool boxes while we were going down the interstate highway and FORCIBLY attach him to the car seat. We had checked straps, made sure he was clean, all that y'know? Nothing visibly wrong with the kid at all or his car seat. So what did we do? We taped his little ass in place, right across his chest. He could not unbuckle it unless he achieved superhuman strength for a four year-old.
I always carried knives. She had a safety knife in her purse. If he had to get out of there, it wasn't a problem. When we got there we pulled all the tape off the harness and he was fine; behaved perfectly the rest of the day and slept on the ride home.
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>>535990581
Spanking is a legitimate form of punishment, but I'm not going to pretend the average person isn't a lunatic taking out their frustrations from work on their kids over something like spilling cereal.
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>>535991015
>t.spiteful mutant the post
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There's many ways to correct a child that are much more effective than the use of violence.
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>>535990581
hitting your kids is for gorilla brained retards
theres a reason you see niggers doing it so much
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>>535993894
As a father honestly I empathize with you.
Stay strong my guy. Don't let people who would blow their shit smooth off after one day in your life criticize you for how you live it.
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>>535992153
Yea probably after he got spanked
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>>535992478
And everyone clapped lmao
In reality, we already livd in a state where violence is the ultimate mechanism to enforce submission. If anything, you should be used to being handled roughly for things that YOU'RE downplaying. Throwing an animal on someone to hurt them is *assault*, doing things like tossing rocks at cars from an overpass is a violently dangerous act. There should be an early correlation established between serious violation against others, and your personal being experiencing some degree of violation. It will continue happening.
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You know, your kids won't remember the times they were beat for doing something wrong, but they will definitely remember the times they were wronged.
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>>535993043
Yeah... geez dude, did that happen to you?
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>>535995170
It's just too much English for you to read and comprehend.
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>>535992737
lol
lmao
>>535992876
i just go by his very jewy appearance, he doesn't have to disclose it to me
also why you should not take his advice
>>535993024
you're bad at this, memeflag
>>535993535
he did a great job all by his own confessions
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>>535995953
The get was the first red flag, too many losers live vicariously through delusional walls of text they post or use chatgpt to help them post on this site, you want some praise here ya go, nice blog faggot
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>>535990581
rare Sam W these days, yes hitting your WHITE children is wrong
if they are majority shitblood violence might be all they produce and process until you buck break them
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>>535990581
Spanking separates friend from father. Gentle parenting fails when the kid believes they are equal to their parents. Spanking is a quick, primal snap back to reality. It’s an uncomfortable result of disobedience.

I totally agree, most parents who spank are the “say uncle” type that hit until injury or hit for absolutely anything. You spank hard and quick, they flip gears and you talk it out.
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>>535992491
By definition, hitting someone is violence.
Consequence through violence.
And violence isn't somber, it's explosive.
Your kid may look somber after your spanks, but that doesn't mean that the violence was 'somber'
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>>535996147
I am getting too old to deal with you sub-literate niggers anymore.
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>>535996946
t. needs more chancla
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>>535992830
Pro-physical punishment faggots, also pretend to not notice that literally all infanticide is done by parents sharing the same ideology.
Keeping physical punishment acceptable, causes children's deaths.
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>>535993851
I think it depends, I was shocked growing up to see how much shit my peers got away with compared to me. I think a lot of millennials didn't get spanked.
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>>535997044
Excommunicated my birth mother, after she kept trying to beat me up through my childhood. Always defended myself by hitting her back though.
The moment I turned 18, I considered her to be non-existent. It's been 30 happy years, since that decision.
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>>535993902
My dad got the belt. I got the the back of cooking spoons or spatulas and such from my mom. "The rod"
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>>535990581
Yeah thats a pretty based take honestly.
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>>535990581
his statement is not wrong
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>>535993902
What's up with anglos always wanting to abuse kids?
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>>535990581
Good parents sometimes spank their children. Look at the little shits running around these days. Absolutely no discipline.
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>>535990581
Spanking your kids should be really rare and has a way of being done right. It’s really not necessary if you’ve always done your job correctly. Nor is giving out, really (though maybe I’m not considering the mom’s nagging).
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>my parents let their anger out on me so any discipline must not cause any pain whatsoever
You know you can spank a child and not be angry at the same time right.
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>>535997247
you definitely sound like someone whose parenting advice should be followed
>>535997567
they genuinely do not know this, because they are not well
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>>535997350
German American family discipline ain't any better lmao
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>>535992352
I bet you never had an issue with being an inkie tho
Maybe dad just wanted to ensure grandkids
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>>535993894
Vax status?
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>>535997651
You sound like someone whose kids will abandon the moment they turn 18.
Enjoy getting beat up, like you beat your kids, by Shaniqua at the nursing home.
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>>535991015
they snipped your boyskin :3
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>>535990581
It's like having a dog. Sure you could emotionally abuse and mind fuck it into obedience, or you could set clear boundaries with reasonable punishments that are known about far in advance. Beating your kids is wrong, but a quick pat on the butt followed by a time out and a clear conversation that their behaviour was unacceptable, lead to that outcome, and was last resort to prevent them from doing something that will harm them forever is very reasonable.

But that isnt beating your kid with a spoon because he spilled your beer. It's for when he runs into traffic without looking.
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>>535998160
you seem sad
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>>535993272
>It was always an English thing and is literally protected under common law.
Like I said, brown.
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>>535990581
Your right wing based comedian Sir. Aren't you cracking up at Sam's hilarious antics?
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>>535998943
Erm, it goes back 100s of years long before any brown person set foot here?
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I was in an extreme situation, right. Long story short I ended up with my half brother's feral toddler and every single strategy to calm him down failed.
He'd fucking try to gouge your eyes out, head butt you, bite your nose and fingers, and bolt out the door into the road.
The behavioral therapists we were seeing would say
>Just sit him down and explain why that behavior is wrong
meanwhile he only knew two words so good fucking luck with that.
He got kicked out of five (5) day cares. My parents are real pieces of shit, they dumped him on me and forced me to drop out of school to raise him at 16.
Well I can say sitting him down to explain things didn't fucking work. Putting him in time outs didn't work. Taking away his toys didn't work. Nothing worked. He really was completely feral.
Spanking him stopped that shit almost instantly. I had to do it a few times then from that point on whenever he'd start to act up or get violent I'd just have to raise my voice and he'd stop immediately.
Remember that five different daycares failed to deal with him so obviously whatever they were doing didn't work.
Sorry but in that situation I had no other options.
Obviously not a normal situation. He's 13 now and doing really well.
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>>535990581
This article is a lie. I have never seen a millennial parent. Our kind does not reproduce. If the right wing ethnostate does enforce breeding, I'll be sure to beat my wife and kids for sport.
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>>535990581
Spanking isn't the same as whacking them.
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>>535990581
If you got the shit beat ouy of you every time you posted shitter screenshots, you would probably stop huh? spanking works the same way for deterring retarded behavior.
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>>535990581
My father in law likes to brag that he never spanked his kids but he was verbally abusive and all of his kids hate his guts. Meanwhile my parents just spanked me when I acted up and I have a great relationship with them.
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>>535999215
If your child is biting you then you would be stupid not to hit them back. They have to understand that such behaviour is not acceptable. If a dog bites you then you have to hit them because there's only one boss and it's not the dog.
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>>535990581
Spanking is debatable. Beating your kid is detestable stuff that can cause your kid to basically abandon you later on since you ruined those formative years with abuse.
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>>535999779
Why do you automatically equate discipline with abuse when they're not the same?
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>>535990581
2 things


1) it is domestic viol. Other names do not deserve consideration

2) most people who do this are also the type to separate and have their new partner doing it

Both literally deserve any amount of force to stop.
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>>535999779
Spanking isn't hitting unless it's extreme. No one ever defines what they mean when they talk about this subject. No you are not supposed to actually beat your kid like you're in the ring with them but corporal punishment is and always has been acceptable to nearly everyone.
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>>535999809
i think a lot of these anons genuinely have never seen measured, controlled, non-emotional physical discipline before
they only have ever seen abuse, because their parents or other adults in their lives were pieces of shit, so they can't imagine what normal spanking looks like
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>>535990581
He can have an opinion when he has some.
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>>535999761
You’re the dog, and your only right is defending your self or legitimate family, not demanding anything else of someone by hitting them
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>>535999809
Why is your reading comprehension so bad? In what world did I equate beating your kids, with anything other than abuse? When you hear "beating your kids", you apply "discipline" to that?
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>>535999887
It's assumed a subject about hitting your kids is mostly about beating your kids as the kids who complained about their parents in childhood were beat, not just spanked. I don't know any adults who actually bemoaned the odd spanking as kids.
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>>535990581
Yes.
Spanking is a tool that can be used if required, but 99% of the time that kids get spanked it's not required, it's just abuse. Parents neglect their children and don't properly teach them so they end up acting out and the parents immediate response is just physical abuse. Hitting the child does not teach them anything if you never taught them anything in the first place. I can't even remember how many times I got hit without even knowing what I did to be hit. To this day there are still times where I genuinely think I did nothing wrong and they just imagined whatever reason it was.
You can imagine the effect that had.
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>>535990581
All niggers beat their children and all niglets grow up to be awful. I think the idea is that I'd you are an attentive parent you would never actually need to beat your children.
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>>535990581
He's three out of four here. Circumcision is fucked up and so is hitting kids. Retards who can't into behaviorism don't get almost 90% of things can't be resolved with positive/negative reinforcement, everything else with negative punishment. Corporal punishment is largely worthless and the maximum necessary if you do use it is typically an electric shock no more intense than to be startling but not painful. You usually reserve that for being a "circuit breaker" when a child is engaging in a behavior that directly and immediately causes harm (i.e. head banging). iPad baby doesn't develop basic cognitive skills and is at risk of being mindfucked by the Internet, so really shit idea all around. Anyways, vax max your kids or they'll get measles and die in pain. If you're anti-vax, you might be a dumb retard whose immune system privs should be revoked but your kids don't deserve to experience that suffering.
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>>535997114
Domestic violence is scientifically proven to always escalate until something extreme happens


You avoid it by not being in the wrong relationships, not having someone else’s child or violate yours, etc.
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>>536000569
There are people in every thread today putting spanking in that category so yes there are people like that.
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>>535990581
Being emotionally abused is worse than being hit. Many women, especially single mothers, raise young men like this. Sam is defending how single mothers raise children. It probably explains why many of them become criminals.
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most of you dont, and will not understand what is law...
law is actually, in most cases absolute trash, just rules to "reinforce customs"

its considered traditional, under many religious systems that you can "dyscypline" or in normal terms beat your childrens.
s its legal to beat your to beat your children
BUT
its illegal for children to beat their parents, or even fight back while being abused
most important rule, that should be utulised in law is "golden rule", or equality.
ergo that law is injustice and trash

and btw keep in mind that child abuse aka doscipline is COMMONLY used to push religious beliefs upon children, like filthy jehova witness or mudslimes beat their child purple for crime of "eating hamburger at wrong time of year" or for :refusing to say stupid poetry, to magic man, that dont actually exist"
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Why does he say goyim?
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>>535992975
The kid in the video game isnt really your son.
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I’m from 35 and i know from personal experience that people who beat their kids are scared shitless of fighting an adult
Until next time
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Punishment should be very painful, very quick, non-damaging, and free of bad emotions, judgment or shame. Really quick violence without anger would be ideal. Operant conditioning in this manner is very healthy.
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>>535990581
Gay.

Sometimes a kid needs correction but physical force should only be very rarely used in extreme cases and you need to be very careful not to hit too hard. If you bench 2 plates a punch could kill your kid lol
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>>535990581
none of that is true, Sam is a pampered, talent-less millennial faggot that can't go 5 seconds without hearing himself make a limp dicked "clever quip", as if you didn't know, what a douche.
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>>535990581
Not a single wrong word was said. I have my hangups with some of his grifty behaviour sometimes but that is utterly succint and sharp as a knife.
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>>535990581
>Smacking your children hurts your relationship and trust with them
Wow. That's crazy. I kind of figured if anyone hit me I'd just like them even more. Really makes you think.
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>>535990581
spanking should be reserved for punishment for bad behavior that was directed at the person spanking.
eg if a child bites their sibling, apply alternative disciplines. if a child bites their parent, hit that fucker.
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>>535990654
Same but daughter
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>>535990581
There is a time and a place to hit a child. No, seriously. I'll be the first to say that if you're spanking more than a handful of times a year, you're either beating your kid unnecessarily, or raising an unruly nigger. There is a time and place though. Unarguably. Especially if you understand proper escalation.
>But esculation doesn't solve anything!
Fuck you, yes it does. If you pulled out a gun in the middle of a knife fight, guess what, fights over because you escalated. Pull out a wooden spanking spoon in the middle of your kid disrespecting you and guess what, kid isn't going to disrespect you after the first time that happens.
Start mild too. Over the knee, trousers on, in private. If a second spanking is needed, make someone watch. No worthwhile kid is going to disrespect you under your roof if they know the consequences of their actions are going to be getting bent over your knee with their ass fully bared to get spanked with a paddle in front of friends or family.
Now, I will say, if you're leaving marks like bruising, that's to much. If you're paddling more than twice a year, that's to much. If you're paddling into teenage years, either you fucked up real bad or you need to reconsider investing in your wife's halfbreed kid. Never, under any circumstance, paddle a child that isn't legally yours.
Hit your kids anon. Just responsibly.
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>>535991051
Those poor kids. Your grammar is horrendous and you should really consider finding another teacher for them immediately.
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tldr kwab

it's for Jews too, btw, it's literally in Proverbs repeatedly
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>>535998014
Unvaxxed, well water, locally grown food, doula birth, been redpilled since I watched Janet Reno murder my neighbors in Waco. Either God is testing me or chemtrails are real shit.

>>535995730
I appreciate it, plus side of having visibly disabled children is most people don't even want to acknowledge their existence so I don't get shit about my parenting.
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>>535990581
He is probably not wrong, but he is not a father or even an uncle
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>>535990581
>the kike that literally has a history to hitting underage girls hes fucking to the point hes posing for pictures with her bloody face is saying hitting children is bad
Dudes got chutzpah i'll give him that.
Mark E sends her regards
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>>535990581
My brother is a typical retarded liberal millennial parent and they do the parenting strategy where you treat your kids like they are your friends instead of your children. Everything is talked out and the kids (ages 3, 5, & 7) are treated as equals and they make important decisions like what they are going to eat for supper. Timeout is the worst punishment they suffer and those are rare. Unsurprisingly, his kids act like wild animals. They are very stressful to be around because they act crazy and yell and bounce off the walls constantly (because they choose and are allowed to eat candy and junk nonstop, they have a constant sugar high). Meanwhile, all my personal friends with kids act like tyrants. The relationship is a de facto dictatorship (like it’s supposed to be). Corporal punishment is enforced if necessary. These kids all act like perfect angels. Well-behaved, calm, obedient.
Just one anecdotal observation from a random millennial guy.
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>>535992352
Some people look so bad they can only be AI generated. Nobody looks like this in real life. lolol
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I was spanked by and have an excellent relationship with both my parents.
All the drawbacks he's complaining about are from frequent beatings, not rare spankings.
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Shut the fuck up and get in the gorilla nest Sam
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>>535990581
You shouldn't spank or hit your kids willy nilly.

But if the kids really go out of line, like destroy your new 10k TV or kills the damn household cat.
He should get it.
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>>535990581
I actually liked beatings, they came with a sense of relief, being put into solitary was much worse
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>>535990581
sam hyde was a spoiled nepobaby who hates his dad for being angry at him for stealing $5k btw
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>>535991697
i got spanked as a child and now im a raging heterosexual nazi who only dates my own race, i hate minorities, i know its the jews, and think hitler was right to put christians in concentration camps. im also not addicted to pornography, and think tel avivision and video goyims are for lobotomized npcs, so i simply read books. and shitposts, obv.
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Not spanking your child leaves them without any sense of boundaries. Troons out. Sad!
Anyways it's condoned by the Bible, end of story. Doesn't mean you should go looking for reasons to spank but.. go figure.
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>>535997114
we need daddy zog to ban spanking
and let them raise our kids too! right juan pablo?
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>>535998014
i swear this "stupid tatoo ideas" meme has been reoccurring in my mind lately this last month
many girls out there with the stupidest tattoos
i am not a fan
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>>535990848
this doesnt matter.
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>>535990581
fuck no
some of them just deserve it
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Proverbs 13:24 (KJV)
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.



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