tf you can never own anything. you can pay off your house and all your cars and then the government is essentially going to charge you rent on all of your property for the rest of your life. fuck this shit.
Damn bruh. I guess there's nothing that can be done. Just pay up bro. You'll be all right :)
If it wasn’t that way, one percent of the population would own everything. They could just buy everything up and hold it forever.
>>535996393take the neet pill, i own nothing and am happy
>>535996505>Buy low, sell never
>>535996393>TaxesBro, you are just starting to see the problem with leftist Jew controlled SOCIALISM.
>>535996393>If it wasn’t that way, one percent of the population would own everything. They could just buy everything up and hold it forever.i own 100% of a trailer home and a truck. should be fine, right? nope. the government wants my rent through property taxes.
The idea is that you can create an estate fund that will handle the property taxes for you.That ideal is rather hard for the vast majority now due to housing prices going to shit. People can't buy a home. People can't afford to keep a home around that's paid off. People just can't afford fucking anything anymore it seems.Lets solve that before we start bitching about property taxes.
>>535996393>all
>>535996393The solution is just to not (((buy))) the land, but build on land no matter who (((owns)) it and defend it with castle doctrine and squatters rights when some faggot comes along to tell you otherwise. (((Buying))) and (((selling))) are for kikes, real men take and make.
>>535996393My property tax is $15,000
>>535996393American communism is a helluva drug.
Property taxes would be alot lover without the municipal adult daycare jobs for women and keeping nogs fed.
>>535996393You can move out to the country and not use roads, sewers, police, fire, etc. But you fucking niggers who want to live and a town or city and not pay property taxes. FUCK YOU. You people are fucking retarded and don't know how anything works.
>>535996393If it weren't for property taxes, house prices would be even higher.
>>535997074You ok, bro?
>>535997306This. Property taxes keeps investors (horrible mom and pop boomers) from sucking up all the housing, it also prevents houses from sitting vacant. Georgism is the least worst tax.
>>535997328Day of the pillow
>>535997398The what?
>>535997074There are other taxes to use you fucking retard. You don't have to leverage your property for it. It's hard enough that if you get sick, Republican fags allow hospitals and doctors to take your home to pay bills.
>>535996802that is not how you patch a wound.it needs to be wrapped properly the first time.delete the property taxes. who do property taxes go to? your local government. what does your local government do other than tax tip and fine you, oppress you with services, political licing, flock cameras. how about we just fucking delete that and make them rely on federal nothing to turn themselves. it would delete karen's from existence so why don't we just pull the trigger already
>>535997379Cope.You can't justify property taxes in any way . Massive coping. Dilate.
>>535996393Your house is of no use without community and utility infrastructure. Your car is of no use without roads and bridges. Someone has to pay for these things that YOU use. That someone is all of us.
>>535996393when you "own" land you're not some free man with a castleyou're holding a state-enforced monopoly on a finite chunk of eartha slice of natural opportunity and community-generated value that YOU didn't createthe government charging you ongoing rent on the land isn't theft, retardit's collecting the unearned economic rent on behalf of the society that actually made that location valuable in the first placeyou built the house? keep it, it's yoursyou didn't build the dirt and the neighborhood around it? then stop crying when the commons wants its cutland isn't your labor, it's a scarce natural asset you're hoggingpay the rent or fuck off and let someone else use it
>>535997615What kind of taxation do you consider fair? Property taxes are probably the fairest of all forms of taxation as they scale directly with wealth.
>>535997676Solar, batteries, generators. Community voluntary grids.Cars can have off road suspension and tires.Your argument is fake and gay.
>>535997615You can live in an unincorporated part of the country and not pay property taxes. But boomers want to live in nice towns with paved roads, police, fire departments, and nice parks for their poodles to shit and piss. And they don't want to pay for any of it. Do you think that roads just materialize out of thin air?
>>535997734Consumption and Services.Property tax would work if it weren't tied to losing your home and everything you've leveraged. It's theft.
>>535996393
>>535997676>Your house is of no use without community and utility infrastructure. Your car is of no use without roads and bridges. Someone has to pay for these things that YOU use. That someone is all of us.i currently pay state taxes. where tf does that shit go? meanwhile just owning something means i have to pay taxes and insurance on it? if i get pulled over i have to provide proof of insurance. that's essentially another tax on owning property.
>>535997694This. The thing is that it is totally optional to pay property taxes. I live in Nevada and there are lots of unincorporated areas. But you have to build your own septic, deal with shitty unpaved roads, and never expect police or fire to come if you call. But boomers never want to actually do this. They want the luxury of living in civilization without paying for it.
>>535997576My local government gives me clean water, and put in roudabouts.So I'm happy with them. Maybe engage in your community and you'd be able to see where your taxes go. Most cities that aren't shit are pretty transparent and open with that.
>>535996393So just rent and put the excess money into the stock market. We're not retarded like Europeans, there's no tax on unrealized gains.
>>535997968the water is flouridated bleached and filled with all other sorts of other boomer poison to make you into a mutant.
>>535997820Holy shit you are retarded. Property taxes are levied at the county and state level too. There’s literally no way to escape it other than living on an Indian reservation. And then probably gotta pay the fucking Indian tribe.
>>535997074look at bitch boy roy here defending the status quo like a good little bootlickin ho
>>535997694If land belongs to society, then in follows that there is some fraction of the land that can be described as my rightful share, as a fraction of society.I'm willing to bet that the land my house is on is much smaller than my rightful share.
>>535997934>But boomers never want to actually do this. They want the luxury of living in civilization without paying for it.once you're a boomer you've already paid enough in state taxes. you shouldn't have to pay rent on the property you've acquired over the course of your life. you sound like a lefty, so you're probably against landlords, the government is the ultimate landlord through property taxes.
>>535997913Our parents were working their asses off to enjoy that adorable illusion. I remember my parents sitting in the rental house with the 1960s Ford Fairlane in the driveway pouring over bills while we were all piling outside to play and not give a fuck. I remember my mother owing the local grocery store on her tab and her crying because she couldn't pay it that week. My dad took baloney sandwiches to work at the papermill. He would work 12 hours graveyard and get called back in after 4 hours of sleep regularly. It has always been expensive to live in America. It has always taken hard work. We never ate fast food and my dad made good money and my mom had a job at the blue jean factory. The ends never met. Perhaps your parents made you think shit was easy. It never has been. When your mom is hanging cloth diapers on the clothesline and they freeze solid in winter you learn a lot about reality and the effort it takes to make it to next year.
>>535998220>God made itExactly. No one created the not you, not me, not the government, not anyone alive today.That's the entire point.The physical dirt, the location in space, the natural resources none of it was produced by any living person's labor. It predates all of us. It's a fixed, finite gift of nature.What is created by society is the economic rental value of that specific location right now:Proximity to jobs, customers, and infrastructurePopulation density and economic activity around it Public roads, schools, safety, amenities, etc.That value isn't the product of the landowner’s effort. It’s unearned. The landowner simply holds exclusive access to it.You Should fully own what you create (your house, your business, your improvements).But the monopoly privilege on scarce natural land whose value is generated by the community should be taxed back to that community. Not as punishment, but as payment for excluding everyone else from a shared natural resource.No one made the Earth. Therefore no one gets to privately pocket the full rental value of holding a prime slice of it forever while contributing nothing to its desirability.
>>535996951China doesnt have property taxes But capitalist america does because your overlords want to squeeze maximum rent out of you
>>535998284The rental value of land (the economic advantage of a specific location) belongs to society, because that value is created by the community, not by the individual title holder.You are not owed a specific "fraction of the land" in physical terms. Instead, you are owed your per capita share of the total land rent generated across the entire society.
>>535996393all of that looks disgusting.it looks like the high point of your week is an orgasm.i feel sorry for you, anon
>>535997379Because not comoditizing housing is simply not an option right? Because simply having laws that say corporations cannot own single family residences and private individuals cant own more than 3 houses is simply out of the question right?You people are so buck broken by the system that you cant even imagine anything else.
if you don't mind debasing yourself, getting on 100% disability reduces property tax to 0 in a bunch of statesironic that the only way to true financial freedom is being a zogbot
>>535996393Land Value Taxes funding a citizen's dividend is the single best tax policy and would resolve the worst of our economic issues.When your land increases in value, that wealth comes from the hard work of the people around you. You didn't not create that wealth, yet you've captured it. LVTs with a dividend give back that wealth to the people who created it. In some sense, it's like paying the community for keeping the area you live in nice.This policy would ensure that land is owned by whomever would put it to the best use, which will massively increase the housing supply and cause the cost of living to plummet. The dividend will provide a basic safety net for everyone, virtually eliminating poverty and homelessness.If youre using less land value than society can support, then you'll actually make more from the dividend than you pay in tax.
>>535998703Georgist paradigm is something else numb nuts
>>535996393homelessmaxxing is the only way to be happy
>>535996393hold my beer i got thisso have just enough tax on single plots to cover enforcement costsincreasingly bullshit high tax on each subsequent plot ownedif citizens are paying more tax than corporate rent seekers the system ain't got much running time left
Only people with more than one house should suffer horrible property taxes Total boomer expropriationAnd fuck your Airbnb cancer too
>>535996393Are you able to defend the land by yourself? No? Then it's not really yours is it.You're paying the biggest force in the region to use a section of their territory.
>>535996918That's all well and good until someone stronger comes and wipes you out. The whole idea was you pay taxes which fund the army who in return protects your section of the territory.
>>535996505Umm, exactly what do you think the situation is now?
>>535999005That is correct. People seem to forget that the main reason for paying taxes is it goes towards the army who are (supposed to) defend the land. Otherwise it's back to survival of the fittest (which I wouldn't mind going back to desu)
>>535998604>China doesnt have property taxesThey also don't have any freedom.
>>535996393The important thing is to recognize yourself as the victim of circumstances beyond your control, understand that nothing you can do can change anything for the better, give up, and be angry all the time and never stop being angry.
>>535999276Then I die, no sweat off my brow.
>>535996722i get it, but all the hubub about it now is just boomers trying to offload the cost of schools to the younger generations. meanwhile, they'll tax the fuck out of those younger generations to keep their social security checks flowing. also, boomers imported billions of nons, putting more strain on the school budgets that they want to rid themselves of having to pay forid prefer local governments relied more on sales taxes than property taxes, but the timing of this conversation now has everything to do with boomers trying to stiff younger generations--again
>>535996393Just live in a nice RV. That is your own private domicile unlike paying rent on your own land.
>>535997823for better or worse, every tax is tied to serious consequences if you evade it. sales tax evasion could land you in prison, and on top of losing your freedom youll lose your career and your house while youre sitting in prison not paying your rent/mortgage boomers want to end property taxes on the basis that they dont have any kids in school anymore (nevermind that old people paid for their education and for their children's education back when their kids were school age). they want to shift the burden to working families - the same families that are paying the boomers' social security checks! fuck them
>>535996393The modern world is extremely gay, yes. You can never truly own anything. The land you supposedly "buy" is rented, the government can seize it if you refuse to pay your rates. You can buy land in the middle of nowhere, not even connected by council roads and electricity, you'll still have to pay rates.Weirdly this is something that you don't really see many people talk about, especially the history and origin of it. In many places it's not even established in state or federal law, it's just councils being the most parasitic fucks imaginable, and good luck buying non-council land.
>>535996393https://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/moody-s31-for-sale/824467Pirates don't pay taxes. You can get starlink and proxy download movies and games on the high seas with neetbuxs and a loan.
>>536002866Also I would get a bidet for my yacht house.
>>535996393kys boomer
>>535996393The best part is as inflation gets out of control because of all the Indians no one voted to import so Karen in the city can get UberEats at 3AM your property taxes will increase until they are unaffordable and you will have to move.So you'll get mad, move somewhere far away, build a home, build a town, build an entire country, and then the foreign fucks are imported by Karen. ANd it repeats.
>>535996505anon...
>>535997823The number of people made homeless due to failure to pay property tax is basically zero. All they can do is place a lien on the property and steal some of the proceeds when your estate sells it. Combined with homestead exemptions, most of the property tax is paid by people who own investment properties, 2nd homes and expensive toys like yachts and planes.
>>535996393Just join the military. Say you got a messed up back and knees, collect 100% and become exempt the property taxes.Bonus, you'll even be able to buy a home with no down payment.
I want a boat so bad, I would drink and watch television while gutting and eating raw seafood and rice that I stored up a bunch of. I'd consider my life complete if I travel to the old world and back.
>>536002866>Pirates don't pay taxes. You can get starlink and proxy download movies and gam- *ACKKKKKSSSS as a random storm sinks you*
>>535996393It's called goy toll. Vote harder.
>>536002714dont pay property tax in my state. so eat an abbos arse if you do
>>536004007boats in the water deteriorate quite fast. I had a work boss who owned a rich cunts boat in the local marina and it fell apart in 10 years. because maintenance was off the charts and it was a pain if you live in it. he told me later it would have been better to have invested in property. such is life. even if you buy a cheap piece of shit its likely only got a few years left in it. when it sinks (in a matter of hours) you're fucked
>>535996393> property taxes?https://floridarevenue.com/property/Pages/Taxpayers_Exemptions.aspxhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_exemption_in_Florida
>>535998381This what annoys me about zoomers , always whinging and moaning that Boomers had it easy and they owe them a living. Kids today have no idea.
>>536002443I understand your psychological operations training is slim, and I know on the white board they tell you to always post a pretty girl so people will read your slop, but the reality is you Russians cannot tell a pretty girl from a goatse. Not that you'd know what that is.You post mid thotts, and your schtick is tiresome. Just accept that none of us will ever care about Slav War #342235423 and get back to killing each other please.
>>535996505the 1% already own everything, they don't care about things like property taxes because they basically have infinite money. taxes mostly affect the lower and middle class because it doesn't scale. a billionaire can lose 20% of 1 billion and still have hundreds of millions while someone who makes 60k gets 10k taken away by all sorts of taxes and fees and that has a much bigger impact obviously.
>>535996393If the Goyims stopped using Jewbucks it wouldn’t have to be that way.
>>535998381Shut the fuck up
>>536005394You STFU faggot
>>535996393we pay taxes but the masses of jewish invaders receive taxes.like inflation, those taxes exists to disown aryans and give it all to jews.
>>535997913I will never forgive boomers for taking your picrel from us (after growing up with it having it themselves)
>>536003852>>536003852>Bonus, you'll even be able to buy a home with no down payment.how fucking pathetic the military is they can't even own a home without taking out a loan
>>536003852become the next pusa, and then you can make billions and pay no tax, while also destroying your personal enemies without reason while someone else pays for it
>>535996393I have a million euro house and i pay like €200 property tax. I pay more tax on booze in a year. I can also just opt not to pay property tax but my estate might be mad at me when I die.
>>535996505so could you. you could just build your family a home, and then have it forever..
