Why are the shills obsessed with making you quit carbs? Bread is what kept your grandfather alive during famines and wars and he got to live to 100. Bread, not protein. Protein shilling is off the charts in 2026. Every normies life is gym + supplements.
>>536021063>Bread is what kept your grandfather alive during faminesAbout that
>>536021063Chemical cake is not bread
>>536021063American bread is poisoned with things like bromine, glyphosate and preservatives. Only the wealthy can afford real healthy bread here.
>>536021063bread is fine if you know what are you doing. Modern diet is not
>>536022420This. We eat to much and move too little.
>>536021063Because at 2000 calories you need there is a little space for carbs in diet.
>>536021063most bread is really bad for you
>>536021063>Why are the shills obsessed with making you quit carbs?1. they're actually not very good if you eat too much of them2. they're cheap, so they can't sell you premium shitlimit your wheat per day to 1kg of 2 buns per mealprefer bread with fiber (bran, whole wheat)
>>536021063Thats peasant food which is perfect for greek faggots like yourself. Keep eating slave, and get back to work to churn some cogs for kikes
>>536021063>Bread is what kept your grandfather alive during famines and wars and he got to live to 100.this never happened. bread is peasant slop with zero (0) nutrients. enjoy sickness and death while avoiding protein lmao.
>>536021063Don't forget that bread is really where civilization begins. If ancient people didn't have agriculture, we don't count them as a civilization. They're just a primitive hunter-gatherer society at that point.
>>536023171>1kg of bread per daySounds like victory
>>536021063You're not eating your grandfather's three slices of bread per day, fucktard. You're eating sugars with a side of more sugar.
>>536021063You need both carbs and protein to build muscle
>>536023343you sound bitter
>>536023279Carbs are a macronutrient, retard. Carbs, fat, and protein is what our bodies need to survive.
>>536021063It's manlets. They can't eat bread without getting fat and podgy. When you're tall you can eat what you want.
>1pbtid
>>536021063the problem is people don't get enough protein.You need at LEAST 56 grams of protein a day.A lot of men these days don't even get 30 grams
>>536023279>bread is peasant slop with zero (0) nutrientsPeasants never ate white bread. Peasant bread is picrelated, and it has a shitload more protein and fiber than modern bread.
>>536021063you're generally right, but bread is great when 1) there's some level of calorie scarcity 2) the bread is real and not full of weird chemicals. Shit bread when you're meeting caloric needs otherwise is bad news, especially if you're sedentary. Unfortunately that's too many conditions for most people to parse and apply already, so you get some weird broad-brushing for a lot of people. That, plus anyone producing content on nutrition and health needs to say something extreme or attention-grabbing to stand out from competition, so the media being consumed is a bit skewed as well
>>536023343> reading translated Jewish newspaper slopAnon, but you have Jewish newspapers at home?
>>536021063It's just another "good thing is bad thing" grift. Morons conflate contrarianism with intelligence so they happily regurgitate obviously wrong things that they heard from their favorite supplement salesmen.
>>536021063Balance is most important, and finding your own individual balance is one that can only be achieved through self-discovery.Know yourself, and you shall know your dietary needs.Anyone pushing mass fad diets is a shill, and there's nothing wrong with traditional bread.Agreed.
>>536023479>it has a shitload more protein and fiber than modern breadso... still way less than any real food with actual protein. got it.
>>536023382You need sugar to build muscle too. Insulin spikes when you eat sugar and it opens the Na-glucose pump in the cell membrane, enabling muscle growth (hypertrophy) after a workout.
>>536023479Onions in bread is what makes it garbage not the bread itself
>>536023653Newfag doesn’t know how to say s()y
>>536021063>My ancestors ate a lot of breadYour ancestors were not sitting on their ass all day watching anime. If you did physical labor 4 hours a day you can eat bread.
>>536022417bake your own
>>536021793Underrated post
>>536023115Most BBC is really good for you, muttbro
>>536021063Did you start out fat when you tried losing weight? Yes, then you know removing carbs is the only thing that works long term. If no, you don't know shit.I don't care if you eat the imitation chemical slurry we call bread today. Go for it, infact feast on it. Be sure to get your free COVID shots too. It's all for the best.
>>536021063only in the countries where obesity is a problem. We're more sedentary these days due to higher rates of unemployment and home working. High carb diet and sedentary lifestyles don't mix well
>>536023459Why is he doing it though?
>>536023782you think wheat or corn flour isnt also full of glyphosate and insecticide?
>>536023899>if you've never been a fat fuck before then you don't know how to eat healthyGalaxy-brained take right here.
>>536021063This was a much needed thread, and a dose of factual history you inserted about famines, highlights that bodies run on ENERGY, and not one any macro nutrient alone, and in CARBS, we find the powerhouse of readily available energy that the Heart needs to tick. You can shill for protein all you want faggots, you can drink 10 protein shakes and eat 10 more protein bars between, but you will just fuck up your waistline, and enjoy your new ripped to shreds asshole after shitting concrete blocks. Calories are the only thing you need to give a fuck about, and its calories that build muscle, determine fat loss, determine fat gain, determine muscle loss, etc, etc. If you wanna stuff your faces with greek yogurt cheese and meat all day every day and delude yourself because you heard it so from some internet CEO of bullshit, you are welcoming yourself into a world of pain.The medical science is clear.60% Carbs, 25% Protein, 15% Fat, is the clinically approved 'balanced diet' that you need in your life, doesn't matter if you're lifting weights or not, the only thing that changes if you're trying to gain weight will be an INCREASE in CALORIES, not in PROTEIN. PROTEIN has a function, its function is to repair muscle tissue. CALORIES determine muscle growth. It is that fucking simple.
>>536024238>60% Carbs, 25% Protein, 15% FatAnd what about the veggies, bro?
>>536024364Veggies are so low calorie my guy, you can eat 100 grams of certain veggies and it comes to 40-60 calories, if you add that to a well balanced meal. Dont even clock it if you are calorie counting (which you should), its not worth it. Fruit? Do not even compromise, add fruits, but count calories, and figure out your daily allowance (calorie budget) and make it work. Digestion comes first, and if people don't follow this rule, they will only fuck themselves up badly, and suffer big down time.
>>536023432You sound too scurvy
>>536024238>caloriescan you post a photo of a calorie?also>balanced diecan you post a photo of an animal that is at peak health on a """balanced diet""" and not just eats 2-3 things over and overyoure a massive paki/indian retard
>>536024489For me, 2 kiwis before bed makes my shits smooth as gel. I mostly rely on potatos for carbs, but occasionally rice too. Bread i gotta be real careful, dries up my shits real bad. Hydrate, take a magnesium pill halfway through your meals (twice daily if thats the guideline for your brand). Enjoy your smooth poops.
>>536024579Don't listen to me, you're right, you know best. Just eat whatever you want Juan, and drink as much coca cola as you like.
>>536021063its all distraction from seed oils.
>>536024074depends on the company
>>536024674you cant even shit properly without magnesium pills and you are here giving advicelmao
>>536021063Who the fuck cares what others are doing.
>>536024489I've tried to have my in between lunch and dinner meal to consist only of fruit but failed miserably.Except in the Summer when I don't feel like eating, and the fruit is watermelon or melon...
>>536024238you are fat.
>>536021063as far as carbs go, bread is not ideal. it is a high calorie processed carb.Stick to natural starches like beans and potatoes. Bread has around 3.5 calories per gram while natural starches have 1-2 calories per gram, and much more fiber.
>>536024962ok it says standard white bread has 2.66 calories per gram. and that is trash bread with added fat and sugar. That is still suprisingly low.
>>536021063Don't know about Europe but it's something to avoid in the US. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm71w3LzhQE>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZtn0Qrlbs
>>536025161If you really think the trace amounts of pesticides left on food in the market are in any way consequential, you're a genuine moron.
>>536024924Ahhh, yellow melons, cantaloupe, what a delight. Best time to eat fruit is around 1-2 hours after your main meals. Fruits digest extremely fast (30 mins) compared to the slower digestive rate of your meals (if say, potato chicken and vegetables, thats around 1 hour, much longer for beef), and their function is to literally 'push' the meal you had down through the intestine and into the colon. Think of what you eat as a conveyor belt, fruit is there to push things, unlike fibre from chicken and such, it is loaded with water, and is highly soluble, keeping your guts from drying out.
>>536021063Carbs are sugars you stupid fuck. The average person sits on ass all day and eats 2-3 meals and snacks everyday.If there were a famine, bread would be high up on the list of foods I'd want. Considering hunger in the US and most countries has been eradicated, bread is simply too rich in carbs (sugars) to fuck with.There's no conspiracy there.
Imagine eating peasant food (bread, grains, potatoes, rice, porridges) when you have access to beef, mutton and eggs.
>>536021063root vegetables, rice/wheat, and meatthis is the holy trinity of foodanyone saying otherwise wants you to get weak and sick
>>536025592>wheatbased
>>536021063What's with all this shitty agitprop? Is this PETA and WEF telling us to eat ze bugs again?
>>536021063You're a fucking idiot
>>536021063>is what kept your grandfather alive during faminesMy grandparents were born in the late '30s. Most people's grandparents nowadays were born in the '50s. Unless you're from Africa, Asia, or possibly the former USSR and Romania, your grandparents did not live through any famines. Don't be a fucking retard. Learn to count. You people have no sense of history or the passage of time, the past is just an amalgam of vague, inarticulate, romanticised stereotypes to you.
>>536021063Nothing is stopping you from stuffing yourself with bread.
>>536026632soon the government ticks will reach your area and you wont have the option to even eat meat:https://www.cdc.gov/alpha-gal-syndrome/about/index.html
no anon, you shouldnt eat an entire loaf of bread a day.
>>536023589Without commenting on the substance of what you're saying, I'd like to point out that you type like a woman or some twitter homosexual. Stop being a faggot.
>>536021063the problem isn't carbs, it's empty carbscarbs devoid of any nutritional valuean artifact of modern industrial farming and food "processing"the goyim are now fed the equivalent of dog food to help keep the (((monetary ponzi))) running.
I have no energy if I don't eat carbsSome days I just eat breadSourdough with olive oil is better for you than meat everyday
>>536021063bleached, "enriched," glysophate poison, wheat cultivated for shelf life, and this is just the flour.
>>536027659carbs are sugar so if you eat predominantly carbs you are giving yourself insulin resistance and sugar crashes no wonder you have no energy if you dont eat more carbs every 3-4 hours olive oil is just better than other plant oils but not better than butter
>>536028059There are advantages to olive oil over butter. It's good to incorporate both.
>>536023782I do, but that doesn't change this: >>536028024At least the grocery store I go to does sell unbleached, unenriched, no glysophate flour, they charge 3x to not add the poisons.
>>536024730Calla, gordaco
>>536021063The bread our ancestors ate is not the same as the mass produced, nutrient deficient chemcial slop that is served at the supermarkets.
Let's establish a full blown fact first: Bread is a GMO food. It does not naturally grow in the wild, would not exist if humans had never genetically modified WEEDS, requires careful industrial chemical treatment during the growing phase, and requires careful pre-processing to make into a finished product.This GMO food makes non-human mammals sick from exposure to industrial chemicals, has EXTREMELY dogshit nutrition density (near 0 vitamins, minerals), is converted to sugar in the gut, and a diet of edclusively bread and water is lethal over time.SOOO, if these things are observed in non-human mammals then what makes you certain it also doesn't apply to Humans as well?
>>536030998>It does not naturally grow in the wild, would not exist if humans had never genetically modified WEEDSYou could make this exact argument for basically any cultivated fruit or vegetable. >This GMO food makes non-human mammals sick from exposure to industrial chemicalsThis is literally not true in the slightest. Plenty of animals can eat bread just fine.>dogshit nutrition density (near 0 vitamins, mineralsAlso not true. Source: google "bread nutrition.">a diet of edclusively bread and water is lethal over time.A diet of exclusively carrots is lethal over time.
>>536021063white breads are the worstest. you should only eat dark
In fact, when you eat any modern GMO plant food you are pretty much consuming picrel. Don't bullshit yourself and say you're going to start buying super mega organic bread for $10/loaf. Nobody in their right mind would keep this up as it becomes a massive waste of money and you'll soon realize that buying wild caught salmon caught in the relatively low pollutions ocean areas for the same $10 gives you BATFUCK insanely higher nutrition that even wagyuu beef cannot compete in (see omega-3).>>536031844Yup, it's all GMO garbage. We've conned humans to think this is normal. Do you REALLY TRULY in your heart believe that eating glyphosphate soaked grain GMO products has 0 connection to the recent spike in cancer among humans?There's pretty much 0 vitamins and minerals in bread products, and nutritional deficiencies do become lethal over time (see scurvy).
>>536032101>the recent spike in cancer among humans?What recent spike?You just don't know what you're talking about.
>>536023589>bitches endlessly about the Staff of Life>eats potatoes, a nightshadeSee, when I'm cutting, I eat what's in that with a thick slice of sourdough toast. It's about 900 calories and eaten mid-afternoon is more than enough for OMAD.The key is to find a good baker or bake your own, it's super easy.
>>536031844>Plenty of animals can eat bread just fine.they will develop tooth decaystomach problemsand obesity/sickness due to having nearly no nutrients and lots of sugaryou can tell right away when animals have been feed bread because if they have teeth they will have human-like tooth rot and if they dont they will be obese
>>536032663Something has to be behind this sudden rise in ass cancer. Something you shove into your moth that comes out of your ass later sounds like a good cultprit.100 years ago commercially widely available bread/cereal/oats/rice/etc didn't exist. Hmmmmmmmm
>>536021063> carbs = energy > protein = muscle growth / repairBoth are essential. Just don’t over do the carbs .
>>536033180Here's the thing the kikes don't want you to know: humans can produce carbs from protein. A really good question is why do they want people to eat carbs so much? What do they gain if I have a load of bread for breakfast/lunch/dinner????Who becomes filthy fucking rich...
>>536033180>carbs>essentialthis is propagandaentire human groups (like aleuts) have been on "carb-deficient" diets for generations until recently and had less childhood malnourished problems than regular brits
>>536032955I had a golden retriever that ate bread as a treat. He lived to 15 (longer than breed average) with no tooth problems and was healthy and active before developing testicular cancer. Yes, a high carb diet is going to increase your risks of obesity and tooth decay. Nobody's contesting that. But then going on to say that bread is inherently bad for you and you should never eat it is a massive leap.>>536033063That chart is not an incidence rate. It doesn't say what you think it says. It's showing the proportion, among people who do get those cancers, who are young.This is the incidence rate over time.Again. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>536033577Okay what's your theory on the sudden spike in ass cancer then? Are 50% of men now pushing shit in?Because if that's the case the end of the world literally can't come soon enough.
>>536034046>the sudden spike in ass cancer then?There is no sudden spike you retard. You misread the cart you posted. Thats literally what I just explained to you.The chart I posted shows colon and rectal cancer rates over time, which is what you thought your chart said. They have been declining, not increasing.
>>536033393Because they are (((merchants))) who own bodegas with shelves full of sugary carb-slop that has stopped selling once people realized it was literal poison.
>>536034218It shows a HUGE FUCKING SPIKE in those under 55. You know, the goyim who are currently eating huge loafs of bread for breakfast/lunch/dinner.My main 2 leading suspicious are there's been a massive spike in faggots being disgusting faggots OR people are shoving some kind of toxic thing into their mouth. Glyphosphate soaked grain products seem to fit that description...
>>536034406all cancers are way up. the average American was already bordering on obese, then add 2+ years of mRNA mystery shots and sedentary isolation indoors to that.
>>536034406It's a spike in PROPORTION. If cancer among the old dropped and cancer among the young stayed constant, you'd see the same exact thing.
>>536034406>>536034583By the way, just to hammer on this a bit, it's millennials and zoomers that are doing the keto/paleo/carnivore shit. Boomers and gen X are very specifically the ones shoving goyslop down their gullet.
>>536033494Do not fear carbs juan, at the end you'll eat what you want anyway, but there is a very real scientific and practical reason why we need Carbs to fuel day to day activities, all the way up to intensive workouts. Many have tried carb-free athleticism, and carb-free office work, and carb-free this, and carb-free that, but it ends in tears, and is wholly unsustainable for the kind of grind humans need to commit at in today's world. Cave men were lean, skinny motherfuckers. Even your ancestors in central America had plentiful sources of Carbohydrates in their diet. Primitive forms of bread, porridge, etc. Cavemen were not packed with superman levels of energy, and they died very early in life, in miserable ways.
>>536021063yeah it's true; protein has been way overblown because of protein powder companies and youtube roid trannies. The much bigger problem is that everyone eats highly processed food and even the natural foods aren't full of all the micronutrients you need because of modern agriculture. So even if you eat healthy, you have to eat more to get all the micronutrients you need so therefore you calorie intake is too high and you get perpetually fat and dysgenic. It's pretty tragic desu
>>536021063You're talking about this shit but completely silent when jews demonize animal fats since the 70s, why is that?
>>536036168The animal fats thing has been a constant topic of discussion on this board for over 10 years now.
>>536021063Carbs are all kind of sugars (chemicaly speaking) not just bread.And cutting back on them will profit anyone. All the worst things you can eat are heavy in carbs.
>>536036526You'd be surprised how many retards are still clueless about this
>>536021063>Bread is what kept your grandfather alive during famines and wars and he got to live to 100.Meat is what keep him alive because his community were hunters living in the forest, not agricuckturalists in a nigger cattle feed lot.>>536023479>>536031978that slop doesn't even register as food to me. looks about nutritious as haitian dirt cookies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3337cj4sJQ
>>536036110i would not say that, because for your claim to be true, we would see people with deficiencies regarding their blood tests, and we dont see that. A normal person with a normal diet mostly has a normal bloodwork. Meaning, the body can extract everything it needs from the food.Id rather say, that the things we eat,are sprayed and contain certain poisons, which are used to fight off insects and related things. Those things are a major health risk. Also there is some connection, between a vegan diet and cancer, which im not sure about how it works. You could argue its the sugar. Sugar creates inflamation, a vegan diet also is heavy on the body because the lack of certain nutrients, which could lead to cancer. But thats open to debate.Id say, eat what people ate since the beginning and you will have good chances of making a good choice with that.
>>536037375>we would see people with deficiencies regarding their blood tests, and we dont see that.deficiencies only show when it's too late, and like I said: everyone is fat as fuck because they have too eat MORE to get the same amount of micronutrients. Excess micronutrients are also stored in fat tissue. If people would eat the correct amount of calories in terms of energy needs, you would see much more deficiencies. Obviously the body is smart enough to not let you literally starve, so it keeps sending hunger signals until it gets all the building blocks it needs.
>>536037233Fuck i love this picture. Kill all bears, mass extinction event NOW.
>>5360369091. That's not the point. Your post was basically "why talk about [thing] and not [other thing]?" To which the answer is "you guys have been talking about [other thing] for over a decade, [thing] is the topic of this thread."2. You're probably conflating being "clueless" with being "unconvinced." I'm not going to waste time evaluating the animal fats thing directly, but you'd have to live under a rock to have simply never heard these claims flying around. Have the theory of mind to grasp that "I disagree" is not the same thing as "I don't understand." It's a genuinely contentious issue and they may know something that you don't.
they ate real bread made from actual wheat / flourwe eat the goyslop engineered empty carbs shit and i say this as a eurofag. our modern bread is as shit as american slob
>>536029461Your supermarkets
>>536021063only poors eat bread its literally peasant food because they cant afford protein
>>536037615Are you one of those people who thinks eating red meat gives you cancer, or that cholesterol is somehow bad for you despite maintaining the structural integrity of your body and digestion? Not understanding how the human body works, is in fact, being clueless. Thats just straight up ignorance, anon.
>>536024238only if your a retard and dont consume any fiber
>>536021063Put sardines or eggs in there and I can eat that every day
>>536038020Red meat does increase cancer and heart disease risk.
>>536038189And being a faggot increases your risk of getting a STD, you should stop being a faggot
>>536038189Yeah thats why ancient humans had lots of cancer and heart disease. Hm. Come on. Do you really believe that?
>>536038148yes i like that too!!>>536038189bollocks>YWNBAW
>>536021063This is so true. The proof is already in the pudding. Blue zones aren't full of fat retards, and they aren't full of ketotards or atkinstards. They are low-fat, moderate protein and moderate carb diets. These people live the longest with fewer health problems and better general life satisfaction. The study is done and over for you./Thread
>>536038020I said nothing about my thoughts on the matter.That aside, the capacity to understand "this thing serves an essential purpose in the body, but excess consumption causes problems" is not ignorance. It's common fucking sense. The point of contention is how much one should consume. Not to mention that dietary cholesterol is poorly absorbed in most people so it's a moot point regardless. A healthy person will produce all the cholesterol they need endogenously.
>>536022417While you are correct about the quality, stuffing your face with a total meat and fat diet isn't solving the chemical problem. Who can't bake bread? Even with fancy organic flour, it's not expensive. Wife bakes 2 loaves a week. Haven't bought bread in a long time.
>>536038376They actually did. Heart disease and other high cholesterol-related problems were really common during the ice age
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>>536038484Again... Straight up ignorance. Meat and other animal products are the most bioavailable form of all the nutrients we use to survive and thrive. You're never in a 100 years gonna be able to eat so much meat that you somehow get too much cholesterol, it just doesn't work like that. There's no such thing as cholesterol clogging up your arteries or whatever either, that is caused by glycation. Sugar literally breaks down your body slowly. Humans for the vast majority of their history were hunters who ate large ruminant animals, and we ate copious amounts of it. Supposedly they all had health complications from a poor diet, none of the anthropology supports that conclusion. >>536038713>hunt animals for millions of years >despite living like any other carnivore, never adapt to this diet >live in abject misery and poor health constantly >even being actively hurt by your own building blocks >somehow manage to survive the ice age, hunting the largest and most dangerous animals possible repeatedly Anon, I....
>zero carbs for the carbon based life form
Grains are rodent food.
>>536021063just the latest fad diet
>>536021063you know cow is actually digesting not grass or celulose but microorganisms that rised using celulose in stomach? basically makes cow fed on protein
>>536025474>muttonLiterally the most disgusting shit ever. It reeks like pure shit, and also taste like shit, on top of you smelling like a shit encrusted sandnigger for the rest of the day. It's not even meat, it's just a turd.
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.1467475/fullhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28181738/https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240918124955.htmhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37299548/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7790697/https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M19-1621https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33222611/https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/647239https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30272088/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26268692/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16770946/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38912731/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC382933/https://youtu.be/x1bajug7S5c?si=IOZ6gNo3V9X0zBjXhttps://youtu.be/0hYLVF7VY3k?si=Rl_gVe85p0InQ_Vvhttps://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(16)30961-5/fulltexthttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1753185/https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(17)30169-9?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS2211124717301699%3Fshowall%3Dtruehttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37217318/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11234288/
>>536040509https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12085909/
Because carbs are filler 'food' that is cheap and has only the benefit of fueling energy. But it doesn't keep you full for long, it gets burnt fast.And given the current urban life, you have to go to gym or force yourself to exercise to not get fat or sick from sedentarism. Carbs accelerate fat deposits and hike your glycemia. In those with diabetes heredity, carbs can become dangerous.Sure our ancestors could eat more carbs without risks, because they lived in rural areas, they worked physically all day, didn't live under so much stress, so they didn't get fat or develop diabetes.Add to that the shit quality of bread in most stores and you have good reasons to avoid carbs. But it's not about completely cutting carbs, that's impossible. Even peas have some carbs. It's about avoiding high-carbs foods, so it's about reducing carbs not totally eliminating them.
>>536040509Oh yeah forgot about that.There are some inflamatory effects of carbs on the digestive tract.
>>536037561angloids are spiritually jewish.
>>536039498>Meat and other animal products are the most bioavailable form of all the nutrients we use to survive and thriveThat's not the point. Plenty of that shit, other than cholesterol, is bad in excess.>You're never in a 100 years gonna be able to eat so much meat that you somehow get too much cholesterolNormal people, no. Because most people don't absorb cholesterol from their diets. There is a small subset who ade highly sensitive though.This is ignorance on your part.
>>536021063enjoy your schizophrenia https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/media/som/departments/psychiatry/documents/TED-Talk_Gluten_Deanna-Kelly.pdf
i pity the shizo who cant enjoy a baguette because his personal assigned grifter is shilling a lard based diet
>>536041194You are completely and utterly wrong. It is not at all accurate to say that "most people don't absorb cholesterol from their diets". People absorb anywhere between 50% to 80% in the small intestine, it also reabsorbs cholesterol from the liver. Your body is generally highly efficient at absorbing and maintaining cholesterol levels. You really don't understand what I'm saying.
>>536041863You really are very silly:https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol/Tl;dr: blood cholesterol does not correlate well with dietary cholesterol. Most people absorb closer to the 50% range (usually less) of the cholesterol thin their diet. The other half gets shat out. Blood cholesterol is almost entirely endogenous.>it also reabsorbs cholesterol from the liverYes, the dumbed down version is HDL transports cholesterol from the blood to the liver and LDL keeps the cholesterol suspended in your blood. Let's not get bogged down in the details here.>You really don't understand what I'm saying.Kek.
>>536041046if you look at examples of neolithic bread, its more like a modern energy bar or cookiethey used mashed seed starch as binder for whole seeds and nuts
>>536043521forgot ice age bread pic
>>536042590You're confused. The study points to homeostatic compensation, its not saying that people don't absorb cholesterol from their diets or that "blood cholesterol is almost entirely endogenous". Your body has an internal feedback loop that automatically adjusts depending on what you're doing, your liver is responsible for regulation and your gut is the one that absorbs. You don't "shit" out all of it, your body regulates how much you need.
>>536023782Its very hard to get flour that hasn't been fucked with
>>536021063https://youtube.com/shorts/vianOPeghIA
American Bread is technically cake
>>536021063>Bread is what kept your grandfather aliveOnly since the advebnt of subsistenmce agriculture, 12,000 years ago.Our gastric juice does not have a pH of 1.5 so we can eat... grains and roots.
>>536023279This is your brain on zoomer and Joe Rogan snake oil wellness bullshit. Go back to the gym, faggot. Find some other fag to do gay stuff with and squirt protein into your mouth. But first you should get a fucking job. GET A JOB!!! Work you broccoli haired faggot.
>>536043521seeds have shit tons of anti nutrients and stuff humans cant digest well.thats why our ancestors tamed the fire before evolving into homo sapiens and why nobody ate flat bread (beside browns) after sourdough was discovered
>>536033063Its a lack of fiber causing ass cancer.
>>536041658>this is what the germans consider a baguettegrim
>>536022420>bread is fineNo, it's not. We are a scavenger species and we only thrive when eating dead animals."It is interesting to note that humans, uniquely among the primates so far considered, appear to have stomach pH values more akin to those of carrion feeders than to those of most carnivores and omnivores. In the absence of good data on the pH of other hominoids, it is difficult to predict when such an acidic environment evolved. Baboons (Papio spp) have been argued to exhibit the most human–like of feeding and foraging strategies in terms of eclectic omnivory, but their stomachs – while considered generally acidic (pH = 3.7) – do not exhibit the extremely low pH seen in modern humans (pH = 1.5). One explanation for such acidity may be that carrion feeding was more important in humans (and more generally hominin) evolution than currently considered to be the case [...]" - ["The Evolution of Stomach Acidity and Its Relevance to the Human Microbiome" (2015)](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0134116)
>>536043836unfortunately google is flooded with garlic bread stock photos
>>536023440>Carbs, fat, and protein is what our bodies need to survive.Wrong.Keto showed us that you don't need carbs at all. Even the brain prefers ketone bodies to glucose, contrary to what we learned in school."In humans, both acute and chronic increases in ketone body availability to the central nervous system cause massive changes in cerebral fuel metabolism. In healthy middle-aged subjects, an i.v. infusion of BHB caused approximately 14% decrease in cerebral glucose consumption while oxygen use was unchanged, suggesting that ketone bodies, even when supplied acutely, enter the brain and may be utilized immediately as an alternative fuel to glucose. Similar cerebral metabolic changes have also been demonstrated in young individuals, however, at lower infusion rates, and thus lower BHB concentrations, glucose uptake does not seem to be affected. Together, this suggests an acute cerebral glucose-sparing effect when ketone availability is high." - ["Effects of Ketone Bodies on Brain Metabolism and Function in Neurodegenerative Diseases" (2020)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699472/)
>>536043823yes seeds oils arent that great but it was still better than the breads you invented 4000 years later. all the cultures that developed civilization independently (not yours, you were civilized by brown christian missionaries) ate flat breadssourdough has a tiny bit more protein but its otherwise slop for slaves
>>536043949As always, it's about access and running temp.You want to be on carbs during the warm months because they run cooler.
>>536023618>You need sugar to build muscle too.Only if by "build muscle" you mean get water retention from chronic inflammation.>Insulin spikes when you eat sugar and it opens the Na-glucose pump in the cell membrane, enabling muscle growth (hypertrophy) after a workout.You don't do hypertrophy with water, retard. You need new proteic microtubules inside the muscle fibres.
>>536043673That wasn't even a study. That's just a summary explain8ng the poor correlation between dietary consumption and serum levels (which is the actually important part of the discussion). If you want an actual study:>Normal subjects absorbed 44.5±9.3 (SD) of the administered cholesterol (range 25.9-60.3)https://www.jci.org/articles/view/107643So on the lower bound it's about 25% and the upper bound is about 60% for healthy individuals, mean: slightly less than half. This was measured based on irradiated cholesterol that was literally shit out.
>>536043690How do they fuck with flour? Give me actual proof instead of the "any chemical is unhealthy" argument. We know there's safe chemicals for crops.
>>536021063Peasants were usually smaller, weaker and died earlier too. Humans need meat and berries. I love bread but the abomination being sold in stores are usually goyslop. Tell your wife to make homemade bread if you want it
>>536044078Personally, I prefer consuming salt to aid water retention.More people should experience skunk spray smelling like coffee at least once in their life.
>>536044050>sourdough for slaves
>>536022417Make it yourself retard. This is the problem with modern idiots. They expect that everything must be bought from a store. You can make bread like people did for millenia instead of buying chemical cake from the store.
>>536043949Go eat nothing but meat then, Tony. You’re a disgrace to your flag. Your arteries are probably on the verge of clogging with this terrible diet advice. Keto and carnivore are for fat people and low IQ retards. Anti carb propaganda is 100% kosher approved jewish nonsense regurgitated by stupid goycattle. Most of them people ITT taking your position are probably far, unhealthy, or are gymcel zoomers in their 20s who don’t even know how to drive a car. All this protein stuff in the grocery store is just the current fad all sold by semitic jew companies. You’re an omnivore with a digestive tract that’s barely different from an herbivore and nothing like a carnivore. Go eat your dead animals off the road if you think your ancestors were carrion vultures. Mine were not because Im white, I didn’t inherit so much Mongolian chink DNA as you I guess. I like meat but everything in moderation is fine including delicious carbs. Go touch grass
>>536044143Oi, dumbass.It's EXPLICITLY STATED ON THE PACKAGING IN THE US.>modified enriched bleached flour>Huh? What? No, that's normal.As always, folic acid is not folate. Eat your fuckin' greens.
>>536022417You know you can bake your own regular bread, or just buy it from a bakery, right? Sandwich Bread has preservatives so it can last a week, because regular bread gets hard after a day and moldy after three.
>>536028059>carbs are sugar so if you eat predominantly carbs you are giving yourself insulin resistance and sugar crashesThey have no idea this is not normal, since it's how it's been their whole life.I was the same, before trying keto and seeing how I'm no longer hungry three times a day, because my glycaemia stabilised.Now it's normal for me to eat just once a day and, if I want to water-fast for a day, it's surprisingly easy.Some things just need to be experienced to be believed.
>>536033180>carbs = energyfat = energy>Both are essential.We live much better with no carbs in our diet.You should try it for a month and see for yourself.
>>5360441431. modern agriculture uses weed killer/insecticides are several stages while growing the grass. these chemicals penetrate all the tissues of the plant 2. once harvested the hulled seed is stored usually for weeks to months. there it gets a few more rounds of insecticide fumigation3. once processed and dehulled, the flour is stored breathable containers that are also fumigated>We know there's safe chemicals for crops.yes if you test glyphosate for toxicity in human tissues it turns out its not toxic in a short-term, obvious wayunfortunately you body is full of non-human cells and even your cells are filled with organelles and mitochondria that resemble bacteria more than human tissues
>>536044395Use keto to reset your tolerance, re-add carbs such that you do not induce resistance.I eat FAR more butter than I did before.
>>536035999>there is a very real scientific and practical reason why we need Carbs to fuel day to day activitiesWrong."Ketogenic diet improved mood including calmness, contentedness and alertness compared to other diet controls.Individuals on ketogenic diet are less anxious and depressed compared to other diet controls.Cognitive and emotional stress is lower in individuals on ketogenic diet compared to other diet controls." - ["Ketogenic Diet has a positive association with mental and emotional well-being in the general population" (2024)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900724000704)"Implementing a KD improved CBF and raised BDNF levels in cognitively healthy individuals, indicating that a KD should be assessed for as a potential treatment for conditions associated with reduced CBF." - ["A three-week Ketogenic Diet increases Global Cerebral Blood Flow and Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor" (2025)](https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgaf207/8104036?login=false)
>>536021063>Why are the shills obsessed with making you quit carbs?Fatty cope.Ketocult doctrine is that it's okay to stuff 3000kcals down your blowhole daily as long as you are in muh ketosis.The fatty brain literally cannot comprehend the idea of simply eating responsibly so the latch onto increasingly asinine fad diets. Fatties will unironically tell you that maintaining a calorie deficit doesn't make them lose weight, as though the devil himself is feeding them when they close their eyes.Ask yourself this: Have you ever met a thin person that does keto?
>>536044242you got brainwashed to think your slop is better just because its fermented. its laughable>>536044395its british and spanish slave cultures that normalized sugar crashes twice a day so they invented 'tea time', 'siesta' and other cope traditions
>>536044647have you ever seen a calorie?please post a picture of one
>>536044647Yes.I am him.Wait, did you mean stays on keto, or uses it as a tool to manage weight?
>>536038189>Red meat does increase cancer and heart disease risk."Forty-one studies were included, ranging from randomized trials to case series and abstracts, utilizing interventions such as the classic 4:1 ketogenic diet, Modified Atkins Diet, and calorie restriction. Adherence was high (>75% maintained nutritional ketosis). Recent data indicate significant survival benefits; adherent cohorts achieved a median OS of 29.4months vs 14.6months in historical controls; with 66.7% 3-year survival rate." - ["Efficacy and safety of ketogenic diet in glioblastoma: an updated systematic review and meta-analysis" (2026)](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10072-026-09035-y)"Current evidence does not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encourage high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats." - ["Association of dietary, circulating, and supplement fatty acids with coronary risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis" (2014)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24723079/)
>>536044664your knowledge of european history is embarassing and yet you choose to double down kek
>>536044647Yes, actually. Myself. Many other people. I have also seen people that went from fat, to thin. Let me ask you this, how do you eat something in moderation that literally makes you addicted? Could you stop eating sugar for even two weeks to prove to me you aren't addicted?
>>536039498>There's no such thing as cholesterol clogging up your arteries or whatever eitherThat's hard for them to accept."The recommendation to limit dietary saturated fatty acid (SFA) intake has persisted despite mounting evidence to the contrary. Most recent meta-analyses of randomized trials and observational studies found no beneficial effects of reducing SFA intake on cardiovascular disease (CVD) and total mortality, and instead found protective effects against stroke. Although SFAs increase low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, in most individuals, this is not due to increasing levels of small, dense LDL particles, but rather larger LDL particles, which are much less strongly related to CVD risk. It is also apparent that the health effects of foods cannot be predicted by their content in any nutrient group without considering the overall macronutrient distribution. Whole-fat dairy, unprocessed meat, and dark chocolate are SFA-rich foods with a complex matrix that are not associated with increased risk of CVD. The totality of available evidence does not support further limiting the intake of such foods." - ["Saturated Fats and Health: A Reassessment and Proposal for Food-Based Recommendations: JACC State-of-the-Art Review" (2020)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109720356874)
>>536044882europe didnt even include you until after the romans lmaoyou are as primitive as indians as far as im concerned
>>536044983dude you post from a mexican ip
>>536040287>>mutton>Literally the most disgusting shit ever.What's wrong with you, Abdul?Best meat I ever ate was slow-cooked lamb, in Athens.
>>536041194>Because most people don't absorb cholesterol from their diets.You could not afford an education, Bubba?
>>536021063Bread is still #1 in my house. Wonder bread is fortified with extra sugar so it gives my family the energy they need to work a long four hour shift at Taco Bell, or stay focused in their women’s studies classes. And it stays fresh for weeks without refrigeration, so if ever we get flooded by a hurricane, we’ll be all set until FEMA can rescue us.
>>536045095I'm evidently more educated on this topic than you.See >>536042590 >>536044111Dietary cholesterol does not meaningfully impact serum cholesterol for most people.
>>536042590>blood cholesterol does not correlate well with dietary cholesterolThat's because we produce our own cholesterol, you dumb fuck!>Most people absorb closer to the 50% range (usually less) of the cholesterol thin their diet. The other half gets shat out.You misunderstood, moron.Half of the cholesterol in your body comes from food, the other half is synthesised by your own fucking body.
>>536044957You know the funniest thing is they could just try it themselves but they're scared shitless of the thought of not eating sugar. They are so out of it they genuinely think that every human before agriculture must have been half-dead and falling apart. And somehow doing that for millions of years mind you. Its all just so incredibly retarded that there aren't words for it.
>>536043812>Go back to the gym, faggot.Why are you fat, Bubba?
>>536044076>You want to be on carbs during the warm months because they run cooler.No, I don't, and no, they don't - you dumb reductionist fuck.
>>536044143They enrich flour, they bleach it. You have never had pure unadulterated flour in your life. While there was good intentions with enrichment of flour, it isn't necessary now. I can get everything I need elsewhere and they can give me milled wheat instead of the grab bag of bullshit they call flour.
>>536045245>That's because we produce our own cholesterol, you dumb fuck!Yes. That's my point. Thank you.>Half of the cholesterol in your body comes from foodExplicitly false. See >>536044111
>>536045492Read my post again
>>536021063that looks good greek anon
>>536044214>Humans need meat and berries.Berries are not needed.We can get all our vitamin C from meat.Scurvy started when sailors replaced livestock on ships with canned meat.
>>536045541I have addressed your points. If there's a specific point you would like to be elaborated on, then point it out.
>>536045462>while there were good intentions>bromate instead of iodateNo, no, I think not.
>>536021063carbs are sugar , sweetie
>>536044318>Your arteries are probably on the verge of clogging with this terrible diet advice.Medicine is not plumbing, Bubba.>You’re an omnivore with a digestive tract that’s barely different from an herbivore and nothing like a carnivore.Wrong, as usual.We're a scavenger species, and thus a carnivore subtype.We only thrive when eating dead animals.>if you think your ancestors were carrion vultures. Mine were not"It is interesting to note that humans, uniquely among the primates so far considered, appear to have stomach pH values more akin to those of carrion feeders than to those of most carnivores and omnivores. In the absence of good data on the pH of other hominoids, it is difficult to predict when such an acidic environment evolved. Baboons (Papio spp) have been argued to exhibit the most human–like of feeding and foraging strategies in terms of eclectic omnivory, but their stomachs – while considered generally acidic (pH = 3.7) – do not exhibit the extremely low pH seen in modern humans (pH = 1.5). One explanation for such acidity may be that carrion feeding was more important in humans (and more generally hominin) evolution than currently considered to be the case [...]" - ["The Evolution of Stomach Acidity and Its Relevance to the Human Microbiome" (2015)](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0134116)
>>536044508>Use keto to reset your tolerance, re-add carbs such that you do not induce resistance.I used keto to reduce my chronic inflammation.I will not re-add carbs because I don't want that inflammation back.It's that simple, Bubba, you fat fuck.
>>536045620You're coping at this point. Do you not understand the internal mechanisms of your body, how it interacts with what you eat (or don't)?
>>536028059Reading comprehensive is deadI don't eat primarily carbsI guess if you have to make up the information so you can argue with your imaginary opponent in your head to justify your retarded thoughts that's not my problem
>>536044647>Have you ever met a thin person that does keto?Every time I look in the mirror, Bubba.>Ketocult doctrine is that it's okay to stuff 3000kcals down your blowhole daily as long as you are in muh ketosis.Ever tried overeating without carbs in your diet?It's just not possible, Bubba.
>>536045756You are allowed to read what I said as an aside rather than a command. One would expect you to notice the mention of quantity of butter consumed, and thus general fat:carb ratio of my diet.
>>536045209>I'm evidently more educated on this topic than you.Oh, I doubt that, Bubba...
When I was in Greece I met quite a few greeks that told me they couldn't stand Sicilians, what's the reason for that? They told me they're the biggest assholes but I've never met an Italian in my life to judge for myself and then when I looked it up it turns out that Sicilians are 60% Greek and among Italians the closest to greeks. Strange phenomenon
>>536021063The brain needs carbs like muscles need protein but the carb isn't the problem, the delivery vehicle is. Carbs from shit not marinated in science gene juice and science flavor is fine. Sugar is too even in substantial amounts unless you sit on your ass 8- 12 waking hours a day in which case you need to watch it. With the Amish, ice cream, pie, cobbler, cake etc is present at one in three meals because their bodies are moving around. It isn't the food that is the problem, it's the Jews
>>536045266>they're scared shitless of the thought of not eating sugarIt's honestly hard.Took me over a month to give up my daily bit of dark chocolate (all within <5g of carbs daily, of course).Once I gave that up, the need to eat something sweet simply vanished.Turns out it was just a habit, not an actual need.
A nice loaf of soft bread, some white rice, and hot stew is so kino bros.
>>536044776>>536044901I'm glad keto worked for you and you lost weight, truly.The reality is that the keto diet is high protien and naturally lead you to a calorie deficit, which is the ONLY way to lose weight besides surgery. Muh ketosis had absolutely nothing to do with it.
>>536045940>The brain needs carbsNo, it does not.When both carbs and ketones are available, the brain consumes ketones."In humans, both acute and chronic increases in ketone body availability to the central nervous system cause massive changes in cerebral fuel metabolism. In healthy middle-aged subjects, an i.v. infusion of BHB caused approximately 14% decrease in cerebral glucose consumption while oxygen use was unchanged, suggesting that ketone bodies, even when supplied acutely, enter the brain and may be utilized immediately as an alternative fuel to glucose. Similar cerebral metabolic changes have also been demonstrated in young individuals, however, at lower infusion rates, and thus lower BHB concentrations, glucose uptake does not seem to be affected. Together, this suggests an acute cerebral glucose-sparing effect when ketone availability is high." - ["Effects of Ketone Bodies on Brain Metabolism and Function in Neurodegenerative Diseases" (2020)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7699472/)
>>536045769Again, if there is a point you feel needs elaboration, point it out. Until then, you are being willfully ignorant.>>536045913See above.
>>536046097>high proteinExcuse me, but retards overeating protein and pissing and shitting it straight out is not keto.The fuel source is fat. Fucking beef tallow like candy on keto.And no, you're still fucking retarded. The source of dietary satiation, outside specific cravings, is SATURATED FAT.Eat your fucking fat. It's good for you. Obesity is an indicator of malnourishment.
>>536046097>I'm glad keto worked for you and you lost weight, truly.It wasn't for weight loss, Bubba.I actually gained weight by starting strength training while on keto.Never felt better in my life.You should try it.
>>536046097Anon I don't want to sound like a broken record here but, you don't know what you're talking about. On keto you *need* fat for energy. You are switching out sugar (in the form of glucose) to fat (in the form of ketones) for your brain. Its not a protein-only diet. Carnivore is a great example, you eat meat with the fat on it. Or tallow, butter next to it. You will not be in a calorie deficit unless you want to. I wasn't fat before btw I just felt better overall eating this way.
>>536045913Why did you post a selfie?
>>536021793HAHAHAHAHAHA KILL ALL NIGGERS
>>536046289Carnivore is actually full retard.The fuckers don't know they're supposed to be chasing fat and constipate themselves burning protein while whining about "poisonous" plants that just require fermentation.If you know of an exception to this, please understand that my message to them would be "But why?"
>>536046289>Its not a protein-only diet.Ameritards think "protein" is just a synonym for "meat".They are shocked to hear that they are also supposed to eat the "white parts" of a steak, or that fattier meat is preferred to lean one, and that chicken breast is avoided in keto.
>>536021063The elites feed the peasant population bread while they eat steak. The carbs unironically keep the peasants dumber and more docile. Look into it, it’ll blow your mind.
>>536046418>Carnivore is actually full retard.No, it's great, but you should try keto first.
>>536046418You can eat some plants if you absolutely want to, but its not at all necessary. Nothing retarded about it. The only carnivores I see eating only protein are people who are new to it and don't know what they're doing, the ones who do it properly are fine and thriving.
>>536046289Did I say it was protien only? I said high protien. Eating lots of protien is satiating and causes you to eat less, thus calorie deficit.
>>536046481You realize there are these nice colour coded things in the header of my post you can use to track me in this thread, yes?Are you deliberately retarded, or is this your natural state? You might actually be starving your brain. Humans require a fat reserve to avoid crashes.
I switched from a normal diet to high carb and high protein, with almost no fat. All the advice says you need lots of fat and influencers even shill high fat low carb diets.Well my body fat went way down, I'm more lean, I have more energy the train so I'm stronger and more muscular looking too.Why were they keeping this from us with their advice?
>>536046536No.It isn't.SATURATED FAT is satiating.SATURATED. FAT.Go fucking gnaw on a stick of butter, retard.
>>536030998>would not exist if humans had never genetically modified weeds >europeans at the bronze age were genetically modifying weeds>??????I knew europeans invented everything but this is new
>>536046659Did YOU know that Australia is not a memeflag?
>>536046642>You might actually be starving your brain. Humans require a fat reserve to avoid crashes.Funny you should say that, Bubba.You'll never guess what the brain uses as an energy reserve."Recent evidence suggests that myelin lipids may act as glial energy reserves when glucose is lacking, a hypothesis yet to be solidly proven. Hereby, we examined the effects of running a marathon on the myelin content by MRI. Our findings show that marathon runners undergo widespread robust myelin decrease at completion of the effort. This reduction involves white and gray matter, and includes primary motor and sensory cortical areas and pathways, as well as the entire corpus callosum and internal capsule. Notably, myelin levels partially recover within two weeks after the marathon. These results reveal that myelin use and replenishment is an unprecedented form of metabolic plasticity aimed to maintain brain function during extreme conditions." - ["Widespread drastic reduction of brain myelin content upon prolonged endurance exercise" (2023)](https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.10.10.561303v1.full-text)
>>536021063The agricultural revolution (when humans started to eat a plurality of wheat and grains) is the beginning of virtually all chronic human diseases. Before that we were eating 80-90% animal products: milk, cheese, butter, muscle, organs, sinew, bone marrow, skin, eggs, etc.Wheat gluten is toxic to everyone not just Celiacs or "Gluten-intolerant" people. A fragment of the wheat gluten proteins gets trapped in the enterocytes causing delays, oxidative stress, and destruction of cellular machinery.
Americans are fucked when it comes to weight loss because we don't really have healthy nutritious food that's easily available. Meanwhile the rest of the world has all kinds of healthy delicious nutritious food like dolma, gyros, pelmeni, buckwheat, plav, shuba, khinkali, khachapuri and so many others. Americans are stuck with tex mex, bbq, burgers, pizza, American Chinese food and so on. It's no wonder Americans are so obese
>>536045304I'm still wondering when it's going to occur to right-wing Americans that having laws that protect free speech, personal property, the right to own guns, etc, etc, don't mean very much when you also devote a lot of your political energy to making sure that cops can never be held accountable when they ignore the law. >b... b... but I thought they'd only do it to niggers, not to me!
>>536046675>umm actually protien isn't satiating since saturated fat is more satiating This is what lack of carbohydrates does to your brain.
>>536046763>huh? I don't get itWhat fucking percent bodyfat are you at?Do you have a backup?I experience a week long crash ONCE after chopping wood for three hours due to skipping breakfast.Yes. I maintain a reserve of 3 hours of labor. Keto onset is a mild bout of nausea.
>>536046944>we don't really have healthy nutritious foodIt's called the produce section. It's probably near the front left wall of your local grocery store.
>>536046997>help I confuse the saturated fat included with my protein for the effects of protein
>>536021063Idk but I love bread and no amount of kvetching can make me give it up. EVER. Same with potatoes
>>536047128Season liberally with BUTTER.Or tallow.Lard can get fucked.
>>536047043>I experience a week long crash ONCE after chopping wood for three hours due to skipping breakfast.I eat once a day, never experienced crashes.I run for over an hour, without eating or drinking. Fresh as a daisy afterwards.>Keto onset is a mild bout of nausea.My "keto onset" was almost 5 years ago. No symptoms. Been in ketosis ever since.Are you sure you understand what the keto diet is?
>>536046659There were some people in the 80s that did something similar. The idea is that you are better off (for losing weight) if you cut out either fat or carbs, stick with one or the other instead of doing both. Because the combination of fat + sugar will make you put on fat very quickly, as opposed to eating either one on their own. We haven't historically had access to foods that are super-high in both of those at once, we usually either had animals we hunted or some berries or roots or at most honey in the summer. But I wouldn't recommend eating only carbs long term, look up glycation.
>>536046944If you are going to make retarded posts like this please take your Southern flag off thanks. We don't want you representing us.
>>536023690I use a pic, they can’t filter that.
>>536021063You dont live in america. You can't imagine how bad the bread is over there Stavros. You have no fucking idea.
>>536021793Grand Gramps ate sheboons? Wait, holy shit it makes sense now. Based grandgramps
>>536021063Nothing wrong with carbs as long as they are from oats or wholemeal bread, just don't let it be the dominant macronutrient in your diet and put some tuna on that avocado toast
>>536023212KEK
>>536047242Hold on.Do you not know what "fat burning" means?The diet's name is derived from the mechanism it seeks to induce.Why the fuck are you acting retarded?Again. You need more fat, because it appears you are starving your brain.
>>536024588I prefer a crumbling pebble poop like a bunch of rabbit pellets loosely held together. I haven’t nailed down the optimal diet for it though.
>>536047116How much saturated fat is in turkey breast dipshit?
>>536023335And what is civilization faggot? A bunch of dumb fucking peasants like Stavros (OP) working in the dirt and eating bread in order to subsidize an elite that eats meat and fucks their wives. Thats civilization you dumb nigger.
>>536047458Calm down, jeet.
>>536047386I think you two had a severe miscommunication somewhere, this is just autism
>>536047518Nah, he's just the typical keto tard that has no understanding of the various applications of self management.Never self induce dietary brain damage.
>>536046045It is the best supper, hands down. Something about eating a hearty homemade soup and bread just melts the stress of the day away instantly.
>>536047613What are you even arguing about, don't you agree on the same thing? The fuck dude
>>536047613A YouTube video told me ketosis causes mental clarity.
>>536047489Yeah I know my description of civilization gives mutts like yourself hardonsNothing is more cozy to an American than working some bullshit white collar job (modern day peasant) and eating goy slop for lunch while your wife fucks niggers (modern day American elite).
>>536047046>>536047274>People who have obviously never traveled and missed the pointBeing poor is not a source of honor to be proud of. Obviously you can be healthy by cooking but the point is obesity is engrained in the popular culture. You're the reason people think of dumb hicks when they think of southerners while when I think of the south I think of John Carmack.
>>536047666If your bodyfat is too low, your body will burn the structural brain fat that is NOT TO BE TOUCHED.>>536047664He wants to call me a lardass despite my general agreement with him. The argument stems entirely from his own character.
>>536023473>56 gramsThat's less than a medium sized chicken breast and 4 slices of bread retard
>>536038616>Wife bakes 2 loaves a week.Damn anon, sounds like she needs some Vagasil.
>>536038616Post nudes of wife.
>>536047879Please ensure that you are referring to the protein mass rather than the total mass.Additionally, that is the latent upkeep cost absent physical exertion.
>>536023335The mongols stram rolled eurasia precisely because 90% of the people he encountered were grain fed weaklings
>>536022417If you go to the deli or the freezer case they'll have real bread for like $6 a loaf. If you don't like it you can make your own with $3 of materials + your time.
>>536048156It should remembered that the farm is supposed to be a diversified portfolio of calorie sources. Monocultures are not beneficial.
>>536045813>literally say "some days i just eat bread">n-no i don't eat primarily carbspick one
>>536047267>look up glycationLooked it up and it doesn't seem to be a problem for athletes who burn a lot of carbs.I really struggle to see any downside with high carb low fat diet if you are training hard. Carbs are literally the energy your muscles need to perform in any power sport.
>>536048482high carb low fat is what chinese and native american peasants historically ateglycation may be the mechanistic "hitting the wall" effect and it is noticeably severe on hispanics (but not asians)
>glycationHuh. So we have an actual mechanism, and it isn't mentioned in discussions of diabeetus. How odd.
>>536021063>Why are the shills obsessed with making you quit carbs? Bread is what kept your grandfather alive during famines and wars and he got to live to 100.Yeah, and the only recipe God ever gave out to totally survive on alone was Ezekiel Bread, which is possibly the greatest nutrient dense bread, full of protein as well, at least before the Industrial Revolution. I do get that they do carry more calories, but can you really blame that on le carberinos, or your own self control? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enPFPmDcPRA
>>536021063>kept your grandfather alivemongols were laughing from chinese and saying this, ie that their carb crops only keep them alive but weak and fragile
>>536049733Ok, ok, but hear me out.Pemmican sandwich.
>>536021063Carbs are what you eat if you can't afford meat.
>>536022417Cope. Amerifats need to get off their asses and learn to cook again rather than subsisting on whatever the jews dump into the trough. Three homemade loaves of bread costs like $5 and I'd still have flour leftover for something else. Just last week I made a two rustic parmesan and herb loaf and apricot bread. Everything cost me less than $8 and now I got bread and dessert in the freezer for the next two weeks.
>>536050158*loaves
>>536050158>copeNo? That's not fucking cope. What the fuck is wrong with you? We're lucky the ingredients list is forced to disclose that garbage.Go look at European packaging and ask pointed questions.
>>536023335Thank god for bread and civilization! Now I get to wageslave and pay taxes to pedophiles.
>>536021063it's because there is no money selling potatos, rice and pastaall the healthiest populations in the world eat low fat high carb, billion asians are thin eating only rice and noodles, until they move to usa and get fat within one generationhigh carb low fat = normal bodyweight, low cholesterolhigh fat low carb keto = high cholesterol, fatthinnest population europe is french, they eat most bread
>>536049733the recipe god gave ezekiel was for a flatbread that was more like an ancient mre biscuit than a bakery product
>>536021063Why would a shill promote eating carbs?
>>53602423815% calories from fat will still likely cause heart disease5-9% of optimal for humans
Uh oh, the deranged troon has arrived to tell us all about its clearly superior diet.
>>536050731can you post a picture of a calorieyour body incorporates and metabolizes baryonic matter only not virtual concepts
>>536050901Please consume diesel fuel.And stop responding to the shill, you're already dumb enough.
>>536047666>A YouTube video told me ketosis causes mental clarity.It does, Satan, but it cannot fix character.
>>536021910and there you have it.
>>536048482>Carbs are literally the energy your muscles need to perform in any power sport.Right until you use up your glycogen reserves - which happens in around 30 minutes of moderate cardio.Then you use your fat stores to produce ketones which your cells use as fuel, instead of glucose.The keto diet showed us that you can just use ketones all the time and it's much more efficient.Imagine running for hours without refuelling. This is the keto experience and we're suspecting it's how things were supposed to work in the first place.
>>536050517>all the healthiest populations in the world eat low fat high carb"The Mongols viewed plant-based foods with a mix of disdain and indifference. Vegetables were associated with sedentary farming cultures; the very societies they believed their way of life surpassed. Eating greens felt unnecessary when their animals had already transformed grass into high-powered meat and milk. Goats ate grass. Horses ate grass. Humans ate the goats and horses. That was the natural order." - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/india/why-the-mongols-mocked-veggies-as-goat-food-and-what-they-ate-instead/ar-AA1WQ0x5
glucodse does not turn to fat in human bodies, that is nearly impossible for body to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUWcgh5Ju9gfat eaten howver moves directly to fat storesall these keto people etc. do exactly opposite what they should be doing, that is the reason 95% of people never lose weight consistently. you cant starve yourselfe to lose weight you need to eat whenver you are hungry as much as you want, which carbs enable humans to dofructose in form of liquid is bad, but other than that carbs are way to low cholesterol and low bodyweight
>>536023453Tall people who are actually strong get fat extremely easily.
>>536051583https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6N8CJ_Wy9ceskimo diet unhealthiest diet. severe heart disease. as we all know keto diets cause high ldl and heart disease as well as do not lead to consistent weight lossonly low fat high carb, natural human diet, works
>if I attach anime pictures from the properties everyone knows to associate with brain damaged retardation to my brain damaged retardation, I'll totally fit in and no one will immediately spot my brain damaged retardationRetard can't into vitamin A poisoning.
>>536051853when you finally get bored of being fat or having high cholesterol, go watch watch mcdougall sayswhy would not love to be thin with low cholesterol eating pasta bolognese as much as you want
>>536044493Carbs are essential for life. If you don't eat carbs your body will make them. You can survive with 0 carbs but I don't think it's optimal long term. To have no access to carbs is to be in a state of scarcity and I don't think that's a state that you would want your body to adapt to. Keto diet induced insulin resistance is a real thing.
>>536024238Muscle growth IS repairing muscle tissues you retarded faggot.
>>536051659>glucodse does not turn to fat in human bodies, that is nearly impossible for body to do.This is how retarded you are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipogenesis
>>536052053When you finally get bored of this VPN, you should switch to Israel. It will really sell your message.Oh, and your message is "Don't listen to me. I'm a retarded faggot that engages in self harm."
>>536051742>eskimo diet unhealthiest diet. severe heart disease."The prevalence of coronary heart disease among Greenland Inuit today is similar to that of western populations. The cardiovascular risk profile among Inuit has changed over the past four decades with the introduction of a western life style. An unaltered prevalence of coronary heart disease has been proposed, but no pre-westernisation data exist." - ["Low occurrence of ischemic heart disease among Inuit around 1963 suggested from ECG among 1851 East Greenland Inuit" (2009)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0021915008005285)
>>536024074Get some Einkorn flour.
>>536052091>Carbs are essential for life.Not at all.>If you don't eat carbs your body will make them.It does not need them. You are wrong about human physiology.>You can survive with 0 carbs but I don't think it's optimal long term.I thrive on zero carbs and it's been optimal for the last five years.>To have no access to carbs is to be in a state of scarcityOn the contrary. Eating carbs is what people used to do in times of famine.Subsistence agriculture normalised the practice and today you think that's our normal diet. It's not.>Keto diet induced insulin resistance is a real thing.No, I'm afraid not.On the contrary: ketosis reduces insulin resistance.
>>536052599I’m sure that has nothing at all to do with the gallons of liquor they consume monthly
>>536052926if i get bitten by the alpha gal ticks your government is spreading ill probably have to eat that
>>536047785>the point is obesity is engrained in the popular culture.Now THAT is a valid point.The primary reason for American obesity is American behavior. People that try to claim it's hard to stay thin in America due to lack of healthy options are coping. Southerners are fat because you can pry their fried chicken and smoked brisket from their cold, dead hands. And the more power to them for it. But don't pretend it's something it's not.
>>536021063I stopped eating carbs and all my allergies disappeared and so did inflammation in my joints. Yes, if I’m faced with a choice between starvation and bread, I’ll take the bread. But since I can afford steak and eggs and other high quality protein, fuck carbs.
>>536021793LolIt's also kind of crazy too because the English estates produced enough wheat but they sold it elsewhere instead of to the Irish.
