California’s high-speed rail now ‘worst project in history’ — as insiders reveal unbelievable new costhttps://nypost.com/2026/04/28/us-news/california-high-speed-rail-falls-behind-as-costs-soar-to-231-billion/>The project — first approved by voters in 2008 — was originally expected to cost about $33 billion and be completed by 2020. The High-Speed Rail Authority now estimates the initial Central Valley segment will cost roughly $34.8 billion, while the broader “Phase 1” system will cost $126 billion — although that number is far from set in stone>Without changes that include revised station locations, scaled back design and using a single track that already has other rail lines operating, it would top $231 billion$231 billion>$231 billion$231 billion>$231 billion$231 billion>$231 billion$231 billion>$231 billion$231 billion>$231 billionNever let it be forgotten that your money simply vanishes into the etherAnd this is just *one* example
It is a hollow cost
>>536041381California needs to be invaded and reconquered by the US.
>>536041381india tier
>>536041381Did it collapse, flooding an entire river valley and killing thousands?No?Well then. Worse has happened.
>>536041614close, but it would have a 90* turn if it were india tier.
They don't even embezzle it. I'm not seeing corrupt city officials in G Wagons. The money literally just disappears
>>536041556Shoah me how.
>>536041381Oy vey that money could have been better used for Israel!
>>536041709>they don't even embezzle it>it just disappearsUh. Bad news, retard.
>>536041381>reveal unbelievableIt's not even straight?
>The high-speed rail alignment shares substantial parts of its corridor with existing freight railroads. Construction activity that affects them are subject to their approval. For example, the construction of a road underpass in downtown Fresno required also building a bridge for existing Union Pacific tracks and their temporary relocation ("shoo-fly"). According to CHSRA officials, it took nine iterations of design reviews to obtain approval, with each step taking about 45 days.[175] Freight railway companies are further able to order construction stops at or near their railroads during peak shipping season in the fourth quarter of each year, thus narrowing the window for construction.lmao>By January 2013, the state had not acquired a single parcel,[164] delaying overall construction start to 2015. By 2019, less than 310 parcels out of 1859 required had been acquired. The number of parcels necessary was underestimated due to the extent of utility conflicts being larger than the Authority anticipated. Land conveyance processes were further complicated due to incomplete records kept by utility companies like PG&E on precise utility locations and easement rights. In hundreds of cases, the Authority was forced to buy entire plots of land, even though only a portion of its right-of-way was required.[163]lmao>In 2012, the Authority decided to issue construction contracts, even though design was only 15% complete, partially to comply with spending deadlines for the ARRA funding. However, this implied that the final sizes of bridges, overpasses and track beds were unknown, leading to incomplete identification of land rights to be secured.[163][120]lmao>The Central Valley with its agricultural focus relies on irrigation canals. These are usually dry from March to September, providing the Authority with a time window of six months per year to conduct work on canal relocations or bridging structures.[196] lmao
>>536041709>They don't even embezzle it. I'm not seeing corrupt city officials in G Wagons. The money literally just disappearsThis just means that whoever actually took the money is really good at embezzling
>>536041381Califag here, everyone hates it and its going to cost as much as Japan's entire rail system. Like the welfare, hospice, voting fraud, its just there to be a project to grift money out of people while the poor saps getting paid working on it stick their head in the sand because they have a make work job they can fuck around on.
>>536041556>Never let it be forgotten that your money simply vanishes into the etherAt least it exist in physical form even though it's useless. Unlike zogbots salaries
yeah but china will collapse any day now
>>536041381wtf i hate high-speed trains now
>>536041381Its money laundering with taxpayer money, the money went into illegal alien healthcare and free services, as well as lining the pockets of corrupt California officials and leftist NGO's. Why have there been no public corruption charges brought against any blue state politicians?
>>536041997reminder a huge part of why japan rail is so successful is because it's privately ran and has profit incentivenot this nationalized bullshit like amtrak and certainly not this retarded state government embezzlement project
>>536041381Look at the bright side OP, at least there are a bunch of bureaucrats and construction companies in California that are several tens of billions of dollars richer
>>536041381Wowza a high speed rail just flew over my house
>>536041381We just put 300B on the table for Iran. If we're going to talk about wasted money, let's fucking talk about wasted money.
>>536041381$231 billion for just one state?So if we stopped fighting wars for Israel we could have high speed rail in every state in 50 years.
>>536041381This is exactly what it feels like living in Bulgaria on a daily basis, but imagine California also being poorer than the midwest.
>>536042165It's not that complicated. It all comes to "donate to my conpaign and I will form tender conditions that only your complany will comply". Company charges ×10 times the actual price. On top of that, there is a huge red tape with all the environment bs.Trump wants china to invest in the usa. Well, that could be the start. China can build it for 10bil. They can even finance it.
>>536042252You forgot to mention that most of the lines aren't profitable and are heavily sibsidized. Profits for companies, losses for the public.
>>536041381Who where those $231 billion paid to?
>>536041594I'd settle for conquering Napa valley and glassing the coastline.
>>536041381This is money laundering. The mafia did this all the time through unionized construction. Jews are doing this.
>>536041662The 90 degree turn will cost another forty-five billion dollars.To plan.
>>536042873Its also the same in Canada, especially the closer you get to the big cities like Hongcouver, Mongreal and Orthotawa
>>536041637>Did it collapse, flooding an entire river valley and killing thousands?No but it probably got cut into a line and shot straight up some Shmeckleberg kike's nose before he chopped off a thousand baby cocks and murdered a thousand White children
>>536041709Retard
I'm positive India is filled with stuff likw this.I wonder on the ethnicity of whoever is behind this.
>>536043248You wouldn't understand Norway anon you live in a functioning nationYou see... Norway is awesomeBest place to live on the planet (just gotta ignore that they are insufferable bleeding heart retards)OH ALSO WORLD'S LARGEST SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUNDFund size: $2.2 trillionNorway population: 5.6 million$2,200,000,000,000 ÷ 5,600,000 ≈ $393,000 per personAND INSTEAD OF USING THAT TO COLLECT GOLD-PLATED SUPER CARS AND BUILDING MULTI-TRILLION-DOLLAR DESIGNED-BY-A-RETARD CITIES...They build amazing infrastructure (usually BCAS -Below Cost Ahead of Schedule) with that cash moneyFor $47,000,000,000... Norway is connecting the WHOLE FUCKING COUNTRY>Norway’s $47BN Coastal Highwayhttps://www.theb1m.com/video/norways-47bn-coastal-highwayIs that a good deal? I don't know it's hard to tell...LET'S SEE HOW CALIFORNIA IS DOING>California’s high-speed rail now ‘worst project in history’ — as insiders reveal unbelievable new cost https://nypost.com/2026/04/28/us-news/california-high-speed-rail-falls-behind-as-costs-soar-to-231-billion/>The project — first approved by voters in 2008 — was originally expected to cost about $33 billion and be completed by 2020. The High-Speed Rail Authority now estimates the initial Central Valley segment will cost roughly $34.8 billion, while the broader “Phase 1” system will cost $126 billion — although that number is far from set in stone.>Without changes that include revised station locations, scaled back design and using a single track that already has other rail lines operating, it would top $231 billion.$231,000,000,000 ÷ $47,000,000,000 = 4.9 times as muchALMOST FIVE TIMES AS MUCH MONEY AND WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IT IS DECADES BEHIND SCHEDULEYeah Norway is the best. I would move there but they don't want a NEETOne can dream...One can dream...
>>536041614Even India is successfully electrifying all their railroads right now at a rapid pace. Meanwhile the US is... well it is what it has been since the mid 1960s.
>>536041381>first approved by voters in 2008 —i voted in 2008 and did not approve it. i specifically said no on the ballot because i knew it was kiked bullshit
>>536041381China has 33000 miles oh highspeed rail.The US has 42.First world my ass
>>536041709>They don't even embezzle itThey absolutely embezzle it. That's the entire point of these infrastructure mega projects and nebulous public interest nonsense. The point is the graft, everything else is justification for its existence. Somalis and slavniggers are too stupid and undisciplined to not drive their gwagons to the slums they run their scams out of, but the more sophisticated jews and libshits know better and just don't get caught. You will never see highspeed rail or a "compassionate" solution to homelessness because neither of those things are the point. It's all about a justification to scam the public out of their money.
>>536041381>$231 billionWow, and here I was bitching about Stuttgard21 or the BER.How humbling to know that it can still get magnitudes worse.
Nobody wants to go to SF anyway. The state capital needs to be moved to Los Angeles.
>>536044526More jeet powerline bug zapper videos.
Gunna be great for renting out as a movie set location..
>>536045921SF isn't the State capitol.
>>536044570>i voted in 2008 and did not approve it. i specifically said no on the ballot because i knew it was kiked bullshitWe need more voters like you anonMost of them are normies and voted yes because...>"But the experts say it will be different this time around! No cost overruns! And completed by the 2020 deadline!"Then they don't want to address the fact that they got tricked by the TV again. Because this embarrasses them. And avoiding embarrassment is more important to normies than avoiding another 200+ billion dollar cost overrun the next time aroundMore normies than I can count in January 2020 told me...>"But the TV says covid wont spread in the US!"I told them to get their toilet paper ASAPI got a whole Costco flat bed of it and was the TP hero of my family and friends. Bringing each of them a couple 30 packs free of charge. They learned nothing. To this day they all still continue to believe whatever the TV says. Muslim characters in the UK are depicted on Netflix as kind/caring/decent/honorable people. They think it must be true despite the hard data (picrel) I show themHumans did not evolve with television. Because of this, normie minds cannot comprehend that they are constantly being shown things which are a complete misrepresentation of true underlying reality. To the few of us who aren't tricked by the distortions shown in movies and tv shows and other media, we cannot fathom how normies can see something like the Muslim-rape-statistics-graph in picrel and simply casually dismiss it because it doesn't align with what the TV told them is real
>>536041381I doubt it's worse than our one called HS2. Maybe your one will cost more money, but our one won't be finished until 2040 or something.
>>536041381The entire state, every square inch of that communist shithole needs to be nuked. I fucking hate commiefornians. They have destroyed Austin. I was told that the PNW, Arizona, Idaho, and fucking Alaska has been ruined as well. The filth are like locusts. The yankees have done the same thing to the east coast all the way down to Miami
>>536048816>They have destroyed AustinThose are flyover faggots that came to Caliwali, failed, then moved to Austin. Also, Texas is gay. Montana is everything thing Texas is supposed to be.
>>536041709People too often conflate liberalism with communism.In California, the funds were distributed relatively evenly, among the thousands of black women and white woman with useless degrees writing thousands of planning/environmental/feasibility reports. So much money is funneled through this channel that it takes on a new life as its own industry, creating plenty of jobs. In China, they download "people's railway template #3" and build the train.
>>536048963>failed flyoversI never thought of that. Interesting. Only Austin is gay, friend. The rest of us have returned to the 50s mentally, want faggotry eliminated, and openly want segregation back. Why do you think Frisco has been targeted by dot indians? It’s the small hats’ way to poke a hole in our state. Abbott only cares about the economy and doesn’t care that it waters down the state by bringing in foreigners. I’ve heard great things about Montana. Wyoming as well. I wouldn’t mind a trip up there to escape the heat
>>536041381Now let's see the indians that planned it.
Why do Californians call you flyover? They have to fly, because their high speed rails will never get built.
>>536041381Doesn’t more than that get sent to Israel?
>>536049340Got family out in Wyo. Good people. Fair prices for everything. Jobs if you know how to work. Good laws. It's the fucking wind man. The wind. It's doesn't stop.
>>536041381Oh, Pelosi's husband was contracted for this?Huge conflict of interest. She should be in prison for alot of shit but this takes the cake.
>>536041381Whenever you hear someone say we need to tax the rich, ask them why they trust the government to allocate that money appropriately.
>>536042252Oh, wow. A retarded burger. That's a new one.
>>536041662Is picrel really the entire bridge?It's astonishing because even Romania manages to build two railway bridges like that every semester.
>>536049299>In China, they download "people's railway template #3" and build the trainThis
>>536048816>yankees have done the same thing to the east coastThat's a fucking fact. Shitting things up left and right and driving real estate prices to the moon. You could blame improved property in part on low mortgage rates but those fuck nuts are coming down, cash in hand, and running raw land prices to pluto. Land was running 4-8k an acre in 2020 and these fucks have driven it up to 20-30k in my little North Carolina shithole. Though I do look forward to the dipshits who realize after the fact they paid top dollar for land next to a pile of chicken houses. Hope the cocksuckers enjoy the smell.
>>536041940that costs extra
I remember I was living in china when two leftoid Americans avoiding student loan debt in America joined this group of expats I hung out with. They were ecstatic about that stupid railroad project in cancerfornia. I told them it was a boondoggle. The conversation steered toward government being wasteful, they tried arguing government creates wealth by choosing which projects get taxpayer money lol.I made them shut the fuck up about the railroad scam in california by telling them Feinstein's husband's construction firm got a contract to work on it. They didn't even try arguing with me, by then they realized I knew what the fuck I was talking about and found an excuse to leave. This was in 2012, before Trump made them all rabid.
>>536043038so just what is the issue>not being built to completion at all>not being profitable after completion?
>>536042165>the money went into illegal alien healthcare and free services, no it didn't, that's a whole nother black hole>as well as lining the pockets of corrupt California officialsthis is correct. also the people they contracted
>>536043323Just wait till summer, it's gonna be dryer than a dog turd in the desert. All they need is one bad fire and people killing firefighters.
>>536041741>Oy vey that money could have been better used for Israel!But it was...
>>536049340>I’ve heard great things about Montana. Wyoming as wellIt's where I went and I can tell you that they are amazing anonAlso keep in mind...If a fire starts in the theater you are in - get out of there *before* the stampede for the exits happens
>>536049559>Whenever you hear someone say we need to tax the rich, ask them why they trust the government to allocate that money appropriatelyI could not have put it better myself
>>536041709Because you have dozens of people taking a few grand here and there over time and most know you don't flaunt it, even after it's laundered. How are you this naive? You have to be 18 to post here
>>536050570Maybe even tens or occasional hundreds, just the people who benefit the most from this know you slowly bleed the project
>>536050616Of thousands*
>>536041381Most government projects are just Jewish money laundering of your tax dollars. Few understand
>>536041709>I'm not seeing corrupt city officials in G WagonsThe corrupt officials are getting rich but it is pennies relative to the real players getting the real money. And the reason you don't see the city officials riding around in G Wagons is because the real players will skin them alive if they do something so conspicuous
>>536047403It's a lot closer to the seat of government. Some Bilderberg fag in the Bay Area wanted this HSR project. Los Angeles to San Bernardino would be better.
>>536050186>In China>talking about how california rail sucks because government is wastefulI can go on google earth, click the historic coverage slider, and see the gorillions of square miles of construction that the head chinks pointed to, and promptly had raised.You'd think that trip of yours would've made you rephrase the question.
>>536041709>Be union leadership>Make sure that hundreds of millions of unnecessary man-hours (double overtime & triple overtime) are added to every single possible facet of the project>Find every possible excuse to add hazard pay to these man-hours>You are a humble union leader who makes a reasonable salary>By coincidence your wife owns a company that keeps getting huge contracts>So you drive a G Wagon>"Thanks for noticing! My beautiful wife is such a successful businesswoman. She is so amazing"
>>536041709An absurd amount went into the black hole that is the legal system.
We need picrel DESU
>>536052962Wait what the fuck I DID NOT TYPE DESU
>>536052962luv Ticket to Ride
>>536052986Hah, newfag.
>>536041381All "railways" systems being purposed in America are to move illegal immigrants everywhere as fast as possible. you cant change my mind.
>>536052986>reddit.com>x.com>instagram.comPlease choose one.Enjoy!
>>536049559You are 100% correct, we need to lynch the (((rich))), anyone with more than 50 million in assets cumulatively should be beheaded without trial.
>>536053295I have been here since 2005
>>536041381sounds like a contractor was in cohoots witht he state
>>536054512to be.honest = desu
>>536041381They're trying the same trick in leafistan now.
>>536041381https://youtube.com/watch?v=v4z_9NcIJXIDemocracy is the best.
Reminder that Elon came up with Hyperloop as a scam to sink high speed rail in California
>>536041381california is where you go to make money,just learn how to make it to the trough.
>>536052962Just fly retard it's like 3x faster
>>536042252Japan subsidizes the fuck out of their subway, you have no idea what you are talking about but you are a lolbert so that tracks
>>536042252Anon the Bank of Japan owns over 60% of the Japanese economy
worth it
>>536042252IIRC, this is technically true, and the replies talking about subsidies are overblown, but, the Japanese rail companies are also real estate tycoons, and recoup what they lost operating the trains with shopping mall/like stations and other ventures.Like a philanthropic blackrock.
Even Jerry Brown could not kill this - too many powerful interests with their fingers in the money pie
>>536041381Mocked? There should be outrage and arrests of politicians and union bosses for public corruption and theft. They dont give a shut about being mocked, it rolls off them like water off a ducks back.
>>536041381who cares. the US spends that in a day now
>>536041381I'm pretty sure that's more money than the iranians have spent on their military. America would look worse than brazil if we didn't have the world reserve currency.
>>536048816Yes snowbirds are absolutely horrid, but commiefornians are the jeets of america. Snowbirds priced me out my hometown, commiefornians would do that and make gay butt sex a core class in school.Anyways this whole country is full, I wish I could fuck off.
>>536056993Japanese train companies own the stations, the malls and the food courts inside of them, as well as the hotels around them... and they set operation hours to maximize their revenues on all of the above. The trains don't need to be profit centers... they're the "free car service" that brings the whales to the strip clubs. Oh, and it also doesn't hurt that the government can seize land for new rail as a public good. Don't mistake Japan for some shiny, perfect city on a hill. It's rotten to the core... but it looks nice on the outside.
>>536041381Money wins. I can get a million different women to have kids with but without money I can't be sure my dna will be secured.Plus I wanna drive a Jeagger at some point.
$230 billion is low and the project is going along pretty well. It's enabled at least three other train projects in Merced, Fresno, Tulare/Kings and Bakersfield. Gold Runner is already Amtrak's #5th route, so it makes sense to make it high speed rail.This whole thing has been a huge success for central valley republicans anyway, they get free money from the Bay Area and LA while Sacramento used HSR as a means to deregulate the CEQA. Liberals had to choose between CEQA and trains, and chose trains.
>>536057930>but commiefornians are the jeets of america. Never been around black "people", lucky you
CA HSR's first railyard opened last month outside Wasco. Look for the large concrete viaduct, it's about a mile south of it.
>>536041381when you play around with the road tools in Sim City.
>>536058021I know, no comparison with blackrock is positive. I was trying to highlight how most infrastructure is inherently unprofitable, but leads to development all around it, hence why you often need lords or communisty governments with eagle eyed views of their territory to get this sort of thing done.
>>536041381And China can actually build high speed rail which is the most effective piece of Chinese propaganda I've ever seen. Turns out when the Dear Leader is telling you to do something with threats to your life shit actually gets done while democracies get tied up in red tape!
>>536049299This. Liberalism is little more than neofeudalism. They've created a patronage system in all but name, and use tax payer money to carve out sinecures they hand out like fiefdoms.CCP is it's own can of worms, though. They do get shit done, but because it's Communism, it has the "The Party is never wrong, comrade. Therefore the design is never wrong. No there is nothing going wrong over there. No we did not use corn cobs instead of concrete. That's imperialist propaganda. You're being arrested now, do not resist."
>>536041381>$231 billion
>>536051209This man governments. The only times this shit gets caught is if the contractor simply can't deliver. Except when they can't it's a year long process to break the contract.
>>536059038*neoliberalism is neofeudalism Adam Smith and them were right in getting rid of rent collectors, but a certain class of ((people)) began pushing the idea that there's no such thing as unearned profits, and all of a sudden we had new justifications for building fiefdoms.And while the chinks punish people for wrong thinking too loudly, you'd be wrong to believe they aren't mulling those thoughts over and taking them to heart (as they ban your wechat), otherwise they wouldn't have gotten this far. They've got a strange family dynamic over there.Corruption seems like the bigger problem. From what I've gathered, every politician below the provincial governors can be bought with a bottle of moutai and a maybach.
Politicians just straight steal the money. Both parties are in on it and even if they campaign on ending it they stick their fat fucking greasy hands in the pot to steal taxdollars from it, too.meanwhile CCP gets shit built, and they hang any fucker who gets caught stealing instead of building. It's super effective governance.
>>536041381
>>536060314They've gotten as far as they have because most of the planet buys their shit. Turns out when you have the biggest economy on the planet funding your economy through extremely one-sided trading, you have an infinite money glitch you can abuse. Do you know how the Chinks handle incompetence in failure? Through sheer mass repetition. They can absorb the losses and the stupidity. The only thing special about the CCP is their willingness to be a shameless slave economy.
>>536041381the pms are niggers in awful fancy suits.
>>536041709Oh honey
>>536060480You know, I think this is mostly right. The Chinese nation is the human parallel to machine learning, except trained on action and will rather than reddit posts, and structured by humans rather than a scrawny jew's code. A good string of buzzwords to describe them would be illiberal, trans-modern, cybernetic, Synthetic(not artificial)-General-Intelligence.If I were an atheist, they'd disgust me. Alas, I know man is more than a meat computer, so I can't help but fantasize about their destiny.I get why Nick land moved there.
>>536058065niggers are niggers anon, I've lived with them in the same household before.
>>536061830It's also curious to think about how half of our gdp comes from our attempt to build a metal chinaman and have him work as our zoltar machine
>>536041709For this project the problem is that the state of California doesn't own most of California's land. Most of the land that this rail needed to be built across is title land than was given to settlers hundreds of years ago. Those titles are still legally binding and still exist, so in order to build on that land the state needed to buy out the title holder of each little plot of land.The result was that each title holder in turn gouged harder until they started demanding prices the state literally couldn't afford, leaving the state with a half-built rail system and no way to move forward.The state tried taking the title holders to court to claim Eminent Domain and lost, and in the countersuit they were forced to pay each title holder they had bought out the price of of the highest payout.This is how the project got to be so expensive and why it just terminates in the middle of nowhere.
>>536062205If that's true, then its California's fault for not researching this problem to begin with.
>>536041381The voters were asked in 2008 if they wanted a high speed rail line from San Francisco to Los Angeles. This project no longer fulfills that voter mandated vision. It does not do directly from San Francisco to Los Angeles.
>>536062205This is why liberal democracy is a shitshow. A few metre wide section of some dipshits gigantic almond farm shouldn’t be allowed to stop critical national infrastructure.
>>536060314>the chinks get things done
>>536050197I'm not saying that railroads are bad. I'm saying that privitizing profitable routs, while keeping unprofitable is just corruption and retardation. His argument was that it should be private
>>536062762It's not supposed to, which is why Eminent Domain exists. They got fucked by the courts, which is just something that happens when you do politics in the US.
>>536041709Retards getting paid legit salaries to do useless shit is a form of embezzlement too
