>>536047125Murray:>Others shouldn't have rights over your freedom and property.Pol:>AAAH! WHAT A KEK! HE IS A KIKE! HE HATES THE ROADS! HE HATES THE POOR! IT'S GENOCIDE! REEEEE!
>>536048165We can't write C_U_C_K now? What a joke.
>>536047125They believed in an ahistorical lie, which is that the "free market" and money economies existed before the state, and it was the state that came along and monopolized currency.How history actually played out was that the state forced people into serving the king, and money was invented as a way of tracking debt to the palace (taxes).Merchants, usurers, etc came after the state, and they did not like the king having authority over the state as it meant they couldn't exploit people. Thats what made greece and rome unique to a civilization like egypt, in Greece and rome there was no king to protect the people and instead usurer oligarchs ran society.Libertarians want a similar world to greece and rome where the wealthy parasites get together and weaken the states protection of poor people, and then they call that freedom.Like Margaret Thatcher selling off britians industry and public utilities to wealthy individuals, that's good because it gives power to the parasites trying to prey on the rest of society.
>>536048165Pol:> data centre's shouldn't be built if it negatively effects public resources and societyMurray: >AAAH! THEY HATE THE RICH! THEY HATE THE JEETS! WHAT A BIGOT! ITS MY PROPERTY RIGHTS! REEEE!
>>536048274So basically jews and other vermin if I were dumb enough to point a finger a group of people instead of a system.
>>536047125>>536048274>memeflagsHe had a lot of things correct, unfortunately the post-1944 Bretton Woods globalist corporatist central bank system evolved beyond what a bunch of early-20th century thinkers like Mises, Rothbard et al. conceived the worldwide economic system as.Central banks today are privately held and have zero relation to past historical analyses of 'muh empires' and currency, economies.If ? anyone wants to change, or 'get out of' the current system the first step is destroying global private central bank control. (Yes, they control all governments worldwide, each one all 160 nations. There is no 'state' it's controlled and run by central banks)
>>536048506You are fucking dumb.
>>536048557The societies that succeeded in killing their kings so they could exploit society at large were the greeks and then the romans.Socrates talked about it, Jesus talked about how his own people had become corrupted, and most roman "civil wars" were really the poor rising up against the usurer class that was taking all the land and wealth for themselves.
>>536048746So, when are you taking your jews back from Norway?
>>536048274Libertarianism is about the idea that non-coercive forms of social organization lead to a better life for everyone (except parasites). Whether a free market existed in the past is irrelevant.
>>536048782I like my king. He is basically a NEET who is required to be Christian and serves the people with cultural affairs.
>>536048822I don't give a flying fuck about jews.
>>536047125The Austrian school of economics should just be called economics because everything else like marginal analysis and Keynesian economics is complete horseshit.
>>536048928Then you would be happy to have him back.
>>536048928Obviously.
>>536049009Is that your dad?
>>536049021Jew:>1+1=2You:>You are a jew so you are wrong.
>>536047125faggots here will just call him a jew and move on. Peak low IQ antisemitism
>>536049055No he is a proud Hungarian.
>>536048627Ancient empires got their "funding" through stealing other peoples stuff and slavery.The Catholic church innovated by having italian merchants loan kings around europe money to wage wars and take the throne, in exchange for paying off the loans and all church revenue going back to rome.This pissed off English nobles and thats why the magna carta was written, to try and give power to the nobles over the king who was rightly viewed as a catholic agent.Eventually the protestant revolution let the english kill their king, and establish the bank of england to fund their war against Catholicism.One problem lenders to catholic kings had was sometimes they would not be payed back. The english to make sure they got foreign investment, ensured no matter what the interest on the money created by the bank of england would be payed back to foreign lenders. Thats how england fueled their victory against Catholicism, though it came at the cost of becoming central bank slaves who had to declare more wars around the world to pay off the interest.Germany also had central banks but because they weren't at war with Catholicism, created a form of central banking that created economic growth instead of just creating interest for usurers like the british model.China uses the German model today, not the English.
>>536048946It's not horseshit and despite being a highly corrupted academic field, actual economists do (scarcely) exist.Problem is the global banking system, controlled at the top by central banks<---That's the conundrum of modern 21st century human civilizationhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/511622826https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTKHskg5TgMust watch and ^study, references + more at archive link
>>536049238>memeflag 4 pbtid ESL irrelevant drivelSee post below (You)
>>536048946The austrian school of economics should just be called made up shit.It is logical the same way a Muslim who adheres his life to the Quran is logical. If one takes the axiom that mohammed is the true prophet , then cutting off your foreskin and avoiding pork makes a lot of sense.However like the austrian school of economics, islam is not true which makes the ideology built around the assumptions totally worthless.> we dont look at empirical dataThen who cares
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>>536047125>"Thriving free market in children"Actual arrangement he advocated, look it up.
>>536049371If you think marginal analysis and Keynesian economics are legitimate then you must think the Austrian school is horseshit because that’s exactly how they saw it.
>>536049435So you don't act purposefully.
>>536049407Karl marx was a genius who looked at the world the way it played out, I recommend him as this would help with your false view of history and imagined consequences
>>536049435Avoiding pork makes sense because it's terrible to kill animals for food when you don't need to. Pigs are smart as a whip and deeply emotional beings, they're eerily similar to people and they taste like people.
i dont read words written by jews to prevent their horrible curses being recorded in my neural network in my own internal monologue.
>>536047125Can you niggers at least contribute to your own threads? like are you posting people you have no knowledge of?
>>536049435You can’t make useful predictions from economic data with equations because the system is too complex. There is no cost function that represents anything in the real word so its derivative is completely irrelevant. Marginal analysis is pseudoscience garbage.
>>536049516Keynes had to deal with real problems like what to do with the debt of european countries after ww1. Which he advocated canceling.Why would he care about what dumbass Austrians thought when they dont believe in using real data and are not interested in how the world works?Its like being surprised astronomers dont care what their horoscope says
>>536049709Here's one, interest rates grow exponentially but economic growth doesn't, meaning at some point debt will quickly outgrow the ability for an economy to pay their debts.
>>536047125This guy, without exaggeration, thought people should be able to abandon their children without consequence
>>536049516>_strawmanning_ <---(You)Fuck (You) shill, and watch the video in post replied to, critique it<---Otherwise SHUT THE *FUCK* UP.(Idgaf about muh ideological sects of muh economics as OP topic is attempting to divide-&-conquer, there are only private central banks 2026. That's it that's all, Everything Else itt Besides My Posts = sewage upchuckspew)Fuck (You), you piece of nonhuman filth.Address (or refute, I_D_G_A_F) the topics thoroughly covered in ^^^video interview or fuck off.Professor Werner brilliantly explains how the banking system and financial sector really workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0G7pY4wRE
>>536049533>Anonymous (ID: 6XrdFzeY) memeCommunistflag Eight Posts By This ID *textwalling*>>536049533checked,watch the videos in # 536049371 (<--already were called to do so) and # 536049828Critque them. If (You)r subsequent replies below this line do not contain specific point-by-point critiques of topics therein, (You)'re Israeli.________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>536049795Spending more than you take in causing bankruptcy is finance, not economics, dumbass.
>>536050007Youre wrong though, the way central banks were used by colonial powers was they were set up after those countries couldn't afford to pay back loans they took from britiain or france in an attempt to industrialize. Egypts central bank was set up for that reason.England controlled Egypt through their central bank. Well after ww1 and ww2, america controls britiain. And britain still controlled those other countries through the central banks they set up.Michael hudson calls it super imperialism, america controls the world through the central banking set up by former empires.
>>536050020Interesr grows exponentially, exponential growth is much faster than linear or polynomial growth. The babylonians figured this out, they compared how fast interest on a loan would grow compared to how fast a herd of cow would grow as a math problem for their scribes.Even in ancient times they understood at some point debts would have to be erased because of their mathematical nature.
>>536050524He was purple pilled. His son is the true Chad.
>>536050315>memeflag 10 pbtid dumbfuckNone of that is the point. (Obviously central banks prior existed, and the post-1944 Bretton Woods system was a transfer from the British --->American-centric USD 'era' Yes I know who Michael Hudson is have read all his work)What matters is the evolution and power weighting, control centralization globally of the system especially since the 1970s. See references, videos^^^^^^ (You) were instructed to critique.(You)'re Israeli.
>>536051334The power is concentrated in america. You fund Israelis LUUUUUL
>>536047125Demonkike interlopers who taught retard zio-boomers that race, culture, and heritage don't matter.
>>536048165>only the GDP arrow matters
>>536049105libertarianism is a failed jewish political ideology
>>536047125Basically just court philosophers to capitalist global power.
>>536051601Libertarians don't care about the gdp.
>>536051694All of your "understanding" of libertarianism is just projection.
>>536047125it's the only political ideology which respects both personal liberty and property rights.
>>536049639based
>>536052076>tf>t(11)p('s)It's clear now why the biggest synagogue on earth is in Budapest.
>>536050315>Michael hudson calls it super imperialism, america controls the world through the central banking set up by former empires.The Rothschilds control the world with their jewish central banking usury.
>>536050450>Interesr grows exponentially, exponential growth is much faster than linear or polynomial growth. The babylonians figured this out, they compared how fast interest on a loan would grow compared to how fast a herd of cow would grow as a math problem for their scribes.>The babylonians figured this out>The babylonians>babylonians
>>536052002>>536052076Rabbi lolbert, look at this image, does your political ideology see a problem with this? If not, why not and who created your political ideology? thanks
Hey, where did all of the lolberts go?
>>536052892Is this thread only for the financially and politically illiterate?
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>>536051403>11 pbtid memeflag derpGlobal default reserve debt note fiat currency unit, for the entire world = USD (and for debt payment UST) When the USD goes, so goes it all: all 160 nations(You) are a sub-brainlet that doesn't comprehend how the post-1970s Financialized global economy functions or is structured.Global debt market is on brink of collapse. When that goes, everything/everyone is gone
>>536053288checked, correct from a governmental, 'politics' point of view (all of the "left" "right" "race" etc. pointless slapfighing on /pol/)* Problem is, all 160 governments on Earth are ruled and controlled by private central banks.former U.K. Prime Minister explains what-who actually controls and rules their nation (no, it isn't the government or monarchy):https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/522930520^ -- watch interview -- ^
>>536047125Libertarianism has a critical weakness in the assumption of basically unlimited resources. Early america was a perfect libertarian system but that quickly changed, basically immediately once homesteading was abolished. It's final death nail is having all the natural resources and minerals claimed or locked onto private lands. Cherry on top are all the taxes, regulations, codes, and red tape. Until personal space craft and astroid mining are a reality (potentially never), libertarianism is fucking dead. If you want to be a libertarian then you better also unironically and seriously support a massive depopulation, which is technically against its founding tenants. Libertarianism today is just a cover for kikes wanting to do whatever they want and not having to give a fuck about the environment, employees health, working conditions, wages, or regulations.
>>536053321Cope
>>536053525>the bank of Englandthe jews
>>536054249>10 pbtidPicrel runs everything. Entire 2026 global central bank system, 150 countries (headquarters pictured here >>536048627)They run the Earth. Government(s) of any country, their heads of state do not.
>>536053937>Libertarianism has a critical weakness in the assumption of basically unlimited resources.Literally not a single libertarian assumes that we have unlimited resources.
US-Money-VS-Corporation-Currency.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/fsldac.pdf
>>536047125Have you read him? He is a complete retard. His books are an IQ test, if you can't tell he is a complete retard, then I have bad news for you, you have an IQ below 70.> other libertarian thinkersSome of them have interesting ideas, but when they get close to anarchists they signal retardation. No state = the biggest gang imposes a tyranny. It has always been like that for the entire history of the human race for very large groups.
>>536055953>'muh state'>biggest gang imposes a tyrannyPrivate central banks _____already are_____. Read^^^^^Central banks control *every single* government and head of state (/parliament/gov) worldwide.(You)'re a fucking *brainlet retard* that doesn't understand the ratmaze imprisoning you rnNobody on this website does (except perhaps 1 other anon itt)Endless slapfight bullshit about >muh ideology>muh boutique economic theoryThey're fucking in stitches rotfl at (You)
>>536055138You have misunderstood the argument, perhaps intentionally. Libertarianism only works with resources that are capable of being monitized by innovation or labor. Under our current system and population density, this is impossible. You are stupid and jewish for saying otherwise.
>>536055953>the biggest gang imposes a tyrannythat's literally the state. you're describing the mechanism of state-formation.
>>536056547The free market is the most efficient way to utilize available resources. Every other system performs worse. No matter how many resources you have, this will still be true. You are stupid and jewish for saying otherwise.
>>536057526This
>>536057526>literallyWRONG. Read: ---------> #536056300(You) are not *reading* the posts itt.
>>536057593>brainlet NINETEEN POSTS itt by this IDSee post below (You) for --------- # 5360576300Read the fucking thread.
>>536047125Every prominent Libertarian leader/thinker is it has been jewish. That alone is enough to discredit and dismiss the entire ideology.>>536048235Testing: cuck
>>536048235>>536057763It appears we still can write cuck. Must have been your autocorrect.
>>536047125religious zealot who's ideas are easily disproved by living in the real world
>>536057633central banks controlling the states is more of an issue of states rather than banks. after all, without a state, a bank couldn't hope to become "central".
>>536048274>money was invented as a way of tracking debt to the palace (taxes).that's not even true. the evidence suggests that money was created as a way to end blood feuds by assigning an objective value to a crimepre-money, you kill some guy and his clan gets even by killing someone from your clan, but your clan alleges their guy was more valuable so they kill another person and so on forever. money puts an end to that because the state can just say "pay the killed man's clan X amount of money since that's what his life was worth. end of feud"taxes were almost universally collected in kind, even when money was a well established thing. most people were farmers, and the most valuable thing a farmer did was produce food, so the state wanted to get food from the farmers not some gold coins
>>536048888>except parasites)capitalists and rentiers are the definition of parasite, kill yourself bootlicker
>>536057973(You) don't know what a private central bank is.Keep fondling your own noodle and boutique economic theories
>>536048274Free Market existed before the creation of any formal states. You see this even in nomadic tribes. Some money economies exist without states. Some money economies exist because of shit states like China's silver economies during Yuan capture. We had debt,credit,labor, and honor economies before and are in fact older. However trade happens regardless. States have a tendency over the long run to cock things up longer than free markets.
>>536058082>(You) don't know what a private central bank is.it's a private bank that is central because a state said so, duh.
>What Is MoneyIt is *debt*, created (w/ each sovereign nation's treasury) by private central banks, and owed to private central banks as Interest Payments, while the nation's debt increases as burden on backs of its citizens.The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo
>>536058355>4 pbtid brainletchecked, WRONG. (You) do not even know what Money is. Watch the films just posted
what do anarcho-capitalists think of Trump? another statist?
>>536049105>he still believes in the additive jewlol
>>536058453obviously I'm not watching 3 hours of film just to reply to you.>muh money comes from the bank, o algowhat about crypto, nigger?>>536058577picrel is what they believe. tl;dr is they know of the jew, but they believe the real problem is the state. that's the source of the jew's power.
>>536047125destroyed western safety nets for kikes award
>>536059116>5 pbid Dumb Fuck brainlet
That talmudic tale of the rabbi shouting at God for butting into his debate explains the libertarian pathology well. He seethes at the fact that at no time or place in history has a state never been intact, or in the process of forming. He ignores the natural tendency among men to organize and unite under a righteous banner, trudging into the heavens no matter their burdens.He's like the primitivist, but infinitely less noble.
>>536048165Gyugyus should learn their place
I don't know if he's based or not since I didn't read him but leftists and statists/fascists must be all murdered in the most gruesome way, preferably with previous torture. If he was OK with that, he's OK in my book
>>536047125It's impossible to discuss libertarianism on 4chins nowadays even though early 4chins was more libertarian leaning. Fags are just going to start screaming about ze jews even though libertarianism is the thing most against the "typical jew" that this board talks about (excluding actual nazism). Libertarians are against intellectual property, meanwhile "ze jews" are extremely pro IP and also in favor using the law to patent troll. Libertarians are in favor of free market while "ze jews" are the complete opposite. Libertarians are against central banking and usury, "ze jews" are in favor of both.
>>536051506libertarianism has always been compatible with conservatismfuck off back to Washington, fedboy
>>536047125>>536048627He at one point called out usury right? based in my book? libertarians who doesn't call out usury are just clowns tho
>>536047125nice nose
>>536047125>thinkersthis shouldn't be a job title. i do it all day long for free.
>>536047125Honduras and Argentina were even worse shitholes after the lolbert experiment, and the US will become one of these shitholes, and it's all because rent-seekers like that dogma.
>>536065227Thinkers become experts when they belong to the special tribe.
>>536065326i hate kikes so much it's unreal.
It's not 1950 anymore gramps. Once Israel no longer controls our country we nationalize assets immediately. We aren't going to slowly prosecute like 8 decades of insider trading and kickbacks lol.
>>536049021Why did you post the picture that we have on the "respected members of the tribe" memorial section of the synagogue where I attend? Are you a member of Beis Yisro'el?
>>536047125Probably the most based Libertarian ever.Listen to his audiobook, I guarantee you'll at least find it interesting even if you're a st*tist:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F00Q4awROE
>>536047125They are jews like the communists. It serves the same purpose, total take over and enslavement of the goyim.
>>536055953>No state = the biggest gang imposes a tyrannyYou have essentially said no state = state, and not A = A, and then call others low IQ, statists are at least entertaining even if totally destructive and amoral.
>>536065554I want to enslave you by never initiating force on you? What next? I'll steal from you by giving you a Ferrari?>>536065457Massie is a Libertarian you total fool, and it's no coincidence he's the only Libertarian in government and coincidentally the most based.
>>536047125libertarian thinkers are god tiershame current 4chan is ultra giga left-wing nowadays, but libertarians are what makes capitalism a success, but then people will just nitpick shit up to prove a retarded point and then say Keynes is a fucking godMilei is a perfect proof of how libertarian measures make a country run for the better, as Argentina is fucking taking off to a very great and prosper futurePoland had received libertarian measures under Balcerowicz during transition out of USSR and now his measures are what made Poland grow so fucking much
>>536047125I really don't care what they have to think about libertarianism. I'd rather see a new line of thinking for libertarianism that mixes limited government influence and liberties for its domestic populace, with a strong nationalist policy that raises an iron fist to anyone that goes against our national interests. Of and including rootless cosmopolitan capalists that put their money ahead of the good of their country and it's workforce. We need a corporate leadership that is America only. If we had that their would never be any need for talk about nationalizing any industries, as said industry would already be working for the good of the American people.A strong economy with healthy and large middle class would make the need for wellfare and other socialist programs completely irrelevant.
>>536065872and again, people will just say dumb retarded shit a la Reddit with their jew-obsession like /pol/ has abruptly turned into /r/blackpeopletwitter or some shitthere's a shit ton of proof from both Argentina and Poland where libertarian measures made countries grow so damn wellJapan as well, from a small island of stone to a goddamn insanely good countrymeanwhile Keynes and Marx did fuckall and the countries pushing for their shit are deep in the gutter like Argentina during 2010 to 2023but here we fucking go with retarded schizo takes and 5G dumb shit theories
>>536065827Yeah exactly, and he was just betrayed by the Republicans. The meme of "we are going to get a single human in office and they'll undo 80+ years of curruption," existed under Hayek; it doesn't exist now.
>>536066023I've gone down that line of thought many times already, what you don't realize is that we already have that, we already have the merger of corporation and state, with the nation as a mere excuse to crush the population.The real answer is pure Libertarianism, corporate socialism has been a disaster for national cultures.In Ancapism we have something called private covenant communities, which does everything a state does apart from aggression, taxation, wars of choice, this is the nation of the future, it fundamentally differs from a traditional state because you always have the right to secede, and if you wish, join a different private nation, for instance if you dont like the policies, read 'the network state'.
>>536066232I don't believe in that statist bullshit you're preaching to the choir. What could actually work is simply declaring Massie defacto president of Ancapistan and building a parallel nation, let the state wither away.
>>536066263Do we? I don't think our current corporate class gives a hoot about this country at all.
>>536048165FPBP /TRVKE
>>536066574You just proved my point, the corporate socialist class will never give a shit about nation no matter how hard you try to wrangle them, they are only "nationalist" as an excuse to completely parasitize the nation and it's people.The concept of nation should be completely removed from the concept of state, they are eternal rivals, this is necessarily true because the state is not the nation and never will be, which you would see if you listened to this based Rothbard audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F00Q4awROE
>>536066025You can't be boasting about Argentine lolbertarian growth when modern China exists. Economic output is not territory for lolbertarians to claim. The moral argument is your only argument, and its immoral, and sucks.
>>536067016>Being moral is immoralUp is down 2+2=5 freedom is slavery yada yada we get it.We love when you bring up China since China was a third world shithole with millions dying before embracing capitalism.
>>536067148I mean your sense of morality is wrong. And yes, you can't say keynes and marx failed when the head chinks have a golden share in practically every large business, and subsidize practically every business, and when they use that leverage to plan the economy. And of course they often skip these middlemen and carry out plenty of tasks with completely state-owned forces.
>>536067294And: note that the trend for the past decade and a half has been towards centralization
>>536048165>i should be able to exploit the goy anyway I can!
>>536047125all /pol/cucks should read pic rel which is the shortest and the simplest explanation of the fraudulent nature of the current banking system ever written (available online for free)./pol/cucks will be retards forever but if they become somewhat educated retards it would still be an improvement.
>>536067294>I mean your sense of morality is wrong.Awful lot of claims, awful lack of evidence.China under extreme statism: 50 million dead, shithole, starvation, famine, insanely high rentsChina under much less statism: Less of a shithole, some people are rich, at least people have food, most of the country is still dirt poor but at least they aren't starving to death or killed by some state henchman (much), a few tall buildings.
>>536067438The point (as made ^^^upthread, all anons *watch* >>536058397) is that the post-1970s global economy is Financialized and private central banks control all 160 nations<--yes their gov'ts/heads of state, on Earth.The U.S. private central bank, the Federal Reserve, just now happens in the post-1980s era to be issuer of what has become (*didn't start out that way* in 1944 Bretton Woods around time Rothbard Mises et al. were writing all their theories, took nine further decades to get here rn 2026) the world's default reserve currency denomination.most /pol/ monkeys are far too fucking stupid to wake the fuck up to any of thisReferences, documentaries here —CENTURY OF ENSLAVEMENT: THE HISTORY OF THE FEDERAL RESERVEhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/451293951
>>536048165>HE HATES THE ROADS!kek
>>536070083>oh no, MUH ROADS! WHAT ABOUT MUH ROADS! WHO WILL BUILD MUHHH ROOOAAAAAADDSSS
He's one of the most based man alive and his detractors are niggers, faggots, and niggerfaggots. like >>536051694 >>536042874>>536065148He didn't condemn the usury, rather explained the origin of the interest rate which is a factor of people's time-preference and demand of money. High interest-rate means too many people borrow the money so the banks will only lend their money to entrepreneurs who want to take a bigger risk and vice-versa.>>536049435So what if Austrian economics didn't believe in empirical data? Mises was right that the economy should be viewed from praxeological standpoint. You don't look at the numbers and model your economic system based on it, instead it should be explained from the apriori knowledge of 'man acts therefore blabla'. Do you think since doctors cannot exactly (or accurately predict within 5% margin of error) determine when you will die from heart attack due to frequent consumption of burgers and steaks, then biology is not a science?
>>536053321>>536050315>>536055678>>536058397Some interesting discussion happening ITT regardless of your differing opinionated stances. Although I don't really think libertarianism is even viable ideology when too many things are monopolized already.However, the answer is 4chan withdrawal prevention center, formerly known as the psyops sommelier society. Certified & Designated by the Anons' Pattern Recognition Lab, Est. 2026. If you're getting tired of talking to same-shit-spam agitprop algo bubble bots, you should just start building your own breakaway communities or if you cba you can join my SimpleX chat link :https://smp17.simplex.im/g#4ByVS7kzgGxJJtKhhN3vEZ_9dPmShsYUuqS16WZg6MEfull link :https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-7&smp=smp%3A%2F%2FZKe4uxF4Z_aLJJOEsC-Y6hSkXgQS5-oc442JQGkyP8M%3D%40smp17.simplex.im%2Fv0NIOZfuqbrMiFW7pIwRf3We3okSJHwb%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-4%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEA18tR1FKB6mr9YD7jbublgjlKsFUK1KriHZEnvbG7TUU%253D%26q%3Dc%26srv%3Dogtwfxyi3h2h5weftjjpjmxclhb5ugufa5rcyrmg7j4xlch7qsr5nuqd.onion&data=%7B%22groupLinkId%22%3A%220l5F05EHvIAvu7sc24P3rA%3D%3D%22%7DDesktop/Terminal app : https://simplex.chat/downloads/>Inb4 : “muh you glow”, “I’m not clicking that link nigga”, "muh memeflaggot", "Discord trannies"Nope. You’re the demoralization shill. I got bad news for you. It’s only going to get worse. If you want actual anon discussion - talk about history & geopolitics, esoteric political pattens, 'insider here' posts, financial predictions, privacy tech stuff, non-pozzed philosophy and literture, while at the same time some banters and shitposts allowed, places like clearweb img boards are no longer some sort of isolated layer where we can laugh at normiefags together. We are not watching them. We are being watched. Discord, Telegram, X are not not really anonymous and namefag apps are inherent privacy nightmare. SX is more like IRC feels - incognito mode, multi profile and no phone number needed to join. Beware : this chat is post-populist
>>536072491That we have to bump this thread with nonsense, what a sad state. :(
>>536067433Just type "I don't read or know anything about this subject" next time please.
Ultra based.I think this thread will be full of comments against them, mostly from people who didn't even read their books or can't comprehend their reasoning.That being said I don't think they were 100% right, I think one thing they're spot on about is that the whole point of the economy is for society to be richer and have better lives, and capitalism is better for that, but, I also think many libertarian authors didn't have a hard life themselves and didn't go through what some wagies go through, and if they did, they would say "capitalism is better at creating wealth due to economic calculation, but some government interventions are worth it and necessary, because people can be awful".Which is basically my stance: Understand austrian economics, understand the pros and cons of economic policies, and still regulate in favor of workers where it makes sense.
>>536053937>death nail>tenant
>>536053937>Libertarianism todayYea, if you haven't noticed they purposely took over the L Party as an op to make you think this.
>>536057825>>536048235>>536057763What a bunch of fucking newfags
>>536057555Is the free market in the room with us?
>>536082020dont assume smart people are lying just because you cant comprehend what they say
>>536055953>>No state = the biggest gang imposes a tyranny>meanwhile Nazi Germany, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.
>>536082219Please senpai, tell me where the free market is. You're so smart and your cock is huge. All I've ever known is state welfare for corporations. Surely someone so majestic as yourself could tell me where the free market is?
The current economic system allows the authorities to buy up the economy for nothing exactly as if it were white traders buying up huge tracts of land from amerindians for beads. This currency is meaningless to the banks and the government, which is exactly as planned, to allow them to fund any project they want. The unfortunate consequence of that for everyone else is that no one else can fund anything they want. The big question raised by this system is why the mass of people willingly went along with this for the past century, and the most likely answer is that the people have become feeble and psychologically dependent on big powerful core groups like the media, corporations, police, schools, etc.
>>536067016Ah yes, the modern tyranny with 4th largest country in the world, is a great example of libertarian methods not working. Go ahead, tell me that Russia is also a great example of such things.
>>536082863He wasn't talking about a state he was talking about a no state scenario.
>>536082979That's exactly my point. Having a state in any shape of form outside of law enforcement, sovereignity in defense and military, and public healthcare is retarded, because you're forcing an idea and/or pushing for fascism and tyranny like in Venezuela, Nazi Germany, etc.The state shouldn't interfere in anything outside of that. Otherwise it'll be handled very poorly and a bunch will be benefitted over the 99% of the people. Such as in Cuba.State above all is prime tyranny redflag. No state interference, no retarded shit like that.
>>536047125bad
>>536047125He joined the New Left in the 1970's and wrote The Death of a State to celebrate the communist victory in Vietnam
>>536048165>Others shouldn't have rights over your freedom and property.**Unless they are rich kikesLibertarianism is just christcuckery for the secular massesYou forgo exercising your collective power so that YOUR systems can be subverted by handful of rich kikes
