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Do the jews worship Saturn?
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>>536048317
I worship Uranus
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>>536048317
they worship satan
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>>536048317
the holy rings
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>>536048317
Check Snopes nigga.
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Whatever they worship it seems to be fucking working bro
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>>536048317
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>>536048538
Snopes says you're a faggot and I believe it.
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No, the Jewish God is a synthesis of the Canaanite gods El and Yahweh

El = Anu = Uranus

Yahweh = Marduk = Baal = Jupiter

Saturn = Dagon = Enki

Screw Yahweh, everyone else is based tho, including Jupiter, Baal and Marduk.
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>>536048317
>>536048413
>>536048483
>>536048528
The secret is you have to believe the earth is flat and then worship Jupiter (Dyeus Pater)

not the Jewpiter they teach you about in sóyence class.

the actual flat earth jupiter in the firmament
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christcucks worship jews
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>>536048653
yeah jesus was white but like 50% of Christians literally believe they're worshipping a kike on a stick and that god is a kike

even nick fuentes espouses this shit
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>>536048483
What are they hiding?
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>>536048748
wait til you see the other pole
picrel
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>>536048648
btw this shit i explained here isn't anti-Christian, its kinda like what Byzantine christians did
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shoo back to tiktok, faggot
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>>536048831
nm i tried sounding cool but it's the same pole kek, just a different view
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>>536048851
your 5 shekel have been deposited for protecting the black rock rupus niagra at the north pole
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>>536048317
Time is money.
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>>536048483

oh i get it, it's the eye of god
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>>536048317
Chaos, the march of chaos discordiaaaa
But yeah they probably worship saturn but if you think about it the black cube actually represents the body so they're materialists worshipping material things or they worship the body
i dont know
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>>536048831
How do I know this is a rel image and not just magic CGI jewish bullshit? Any anon with igh powered telescopes verifying this garbage? I'm about to sell my house for 750k and I am going to be buying the most expensive telescope I an find to prove nasa are a bunch of lying faggots.
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>>536048483
If Saturn is Satan who is God? What is Jesus supposed to represent?
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>>536050191
I have read the wandering stars are the fallen angels of the bible. Don't buy it myself yet but who knows. Satan is not actually an equal rival to god so expecting god to be like nibiru or something is fallacious
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>>536048483
Seriously though, why the fuck is their a whirlpool type storm that funnels down into a dark tunnel down to the abyss of Saturns depths at it’s north pool and why is the storm a blue hexagon?
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>>536048538
snopes has been debunked
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>>536048317
if the saturn shit can get millions of likes on fuckin tiktok then it's obviously not true
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>>536050269
Hm I guess the thing I am most confused about is that if Saturn is Satan why would Jesus come to fulfill the Old Testament prophecies
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>>536050191
Satan is actually the sun in the Jewish Torah and by extension the bible which Jews wrote for goyim. Ra = evil in Hebrew and Ra is the sun god of the ancient aryan civilization of ancient Egypt. Another hint is Lucifer is the “light bringer”. Christianity is a trick by Jews to get the world to worship the Saturnic evil and denounce aryan sun spirituality as evil. Few understand, study more
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>>536050191
In the 'occult community' of Europe there is the concept of a black cube. It represents hidden knowledge, only the enlightened are aware of what's inside the box and have the true power that comes with knowing that.

Jesus was most likely not crucified on a 'lower case t' style cross. Typically it would have been an upper case T, there is no reason for the cross beam to not be put at the top. When Peter was crucified he demanded demanded it be done upside down, as he was unworthy to die in the same way as Jesus. As someone who was actually there, he seemed to think Jesus was crucified on an X.

No, what the t cross represents is actually an unfolded cube. Jesus revealed the secrets to everyone, and invited them to live by his example and inherit the power.
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>>536050415
From what I know Jesus returning is essentially the end of current reality as we know it. he will come down, cleanse the world with fire and violence and rebuild it into a sort of perfect civilization with him as the king and only true follower remaining. (maybe .001% of humanity if that) It sounds ridiculous but both religious and scientific paradigms have consistent messaging with this. Either the sun solar flares while our magnetic field is weak killing basically everything(supposedly historically verified already across all cultures), or jesus comes down and does it.

Somewhere in this mess of shit there is a true understanding of reality. I'm not certain yet where it is nor that I will be sane after finding it but seek I shall. Reality is one hell of a drug
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Veneration of heavenly bodies was completely normal. But which ones you venerate is an indication of a groups psychology and values.
Jupiter is big and strong, while Saturn slowly creeps around all over the place.
The old testament is barely 300 years older than the new, the whole thing is a forgery. Jews were always canaanites who changed their identity to larp as the Mesopotamians and make a divine claim over the trade nexus that is Israel.
When they worship Saturn, they are simply relapsing to their natural state.
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>>536050619
Is there a website or books where I can read more about this? It is interesting although I have to admit it can be a bit confusing. What would be the true religion?
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>>536050619
The cross is the cross of the zodiac and the sun at winter solstice drops to its lowest point and it seems as if it doesnt move almost like it died until 3 days later its rises again (resurrection). He was called the light of this world and what is the only light source for this world?
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>>536050191
Saturn isn't satan. He's Kronos, locked in our three-dimensional reality. The shape on his pole is meant to be a 2D representation of a cube. That's why saturnites worship the black cube.
Satan is our sun. They call him Morningstar because he's literally the star of the morning that falls to earth at the end of each day.
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>>536048483
As holy symbols go, you have to admit that "Giant Hexagonal Storm Many Times Larger than the Entire Planet Earth" is a lot cooler and more awe inspiring than "Artist's Interpretation of Dying Jew on a Stick Praying Up At Himself to Forgive His Killers".
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All of this is totally wrong. Saturn is a planet and the Planets were at one time deities. It's extremely weird that everyone tries to build this narrative around Saturn that easily leads normalfags to conclude Saturn is evil or diabolical or malevolent.
Is this because of Xtianity not really understanding Hellenistic values? Saturn seems totally misunderstood by most of you and this is routinely tough to witness.
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>>536048317
All abrahamics do.
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>>536051374
One of reason jews down believe in heaven or hell, cause they're chosen or what ever kalablist juxtaposition.
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>>536051397
wtf am i looking at
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>>536048483
It's imperative that we build a meaningful contrast between "Satan" and "Saturn". "Satan", the word, comes from the Hebrew Shaitan which means "adversary" or, which makes more sense in this context, "antagonist". In Biblical contexts, it's imperative to understand how Satans (yes, that's correct it's plural in the Bible because there were multiple Satans) were referred to. One of the big ones was Samyaza and was framed as an Angel which taught men to construct weapons and defend themselves among other things. Saturn is the Romanized Cronus (also see Chronos), who was initially converted from Hyperion prior to the Titanomachy. Hyperion was sort of like what you'd understand the Sun to be now with a little added nuance (unimportant to this, but important for other, adjacent contexts). When Hyperion changed to Cronus, his position became more of a wise old teacher. In this new state, Cronus was responsible for the forward progression of time and structures, progression, maturation and so on. Keep in mind Saturn is also a planet and has moons. Artistic renditions of Saturn colliding with his moons (consumption, you'll recognize - though they conveniently leave out the regurgitation part in your Hollyweird-tier motifs) cannot possibly totally inform your worldview of Saturn and this miserably confused conflation with any of the Satans.
It's important to better receive Saturn. If you'd like for me to explain why, I can do that.
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>>536051604
Please explain the pertinence of any of the Sefirot in this conversation. Thanks.
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>>536050619
It's literally just a conceptual black box - anything you can't see or understand gives them power.
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>>536048317
The worship set
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>>536048639
Oof. Let me help you out there, newfag. Anu and Uranus is just fine. These are sky father motifs. No real complaints there. But El is not a good match. Sorry. El is Yaweh, YHVH, etc.; Hephaestus, Ptah, Gadreel, Saklas, Ialdaboath, etc. However, I'm afraid that Iupiter, Zeus, Marduk and Ba'al have tremendous overlap and it's not with El-Yahweh (though I'll admit there are some loose exceptions I could entertain). These are storm deities and "guy in charge" deities. They hold the Rod, Scepter or Gavel - the Vajra (though keep in mind Shiva is Dionysus-Bacchus or Odin if you feel spicy).
As for Saturn, Dagon and Enki, you're a bit too far off. Saturn, we've already covered enough I think. Saturn fits with the Ptah, Gadreel, Saklas, Pan or Baphomet group: these are you Builder deities and all of them share themes of Creation. You'll find Saturn's responsible for all of those straight lines you see. That black box with those pretty corners? Saturn. But is it evil? That's a tad ludicrous when you actually read the literature. But we're missing someone, aren't we?
Dagon and Enki are Neptune, Poseidon, Oannes, Ea. These are all Water, Mysticism/Magic motifs. All of these are bypassing barriers, riding on top (or inside of, I guess) the water or are otherwise a bit fluid/dynamic.
Do you have any questions?
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>>536048697
> Jesus white


Muh nigga read your scripture closer

> The woman was surprised, for Jews refuse to have anything to do with Samaritans. She said to Jesus, “You are a (((JEW)))and I am a Samaritan woman. Why are you asking me for a drink?”

John 4:9
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>>536048556
You're in luck, I guess.
>>536050191
The system they use is not coherent. They don't even know any of the Satans let alone that there were more than one. They conflate Lucifers and Satans. They don't know what Saturn is supposed to do or be about or anything and they think it's sensible to antagonize him (which I have a hard time not feeling very sorry for them for). How the hell do you think any of these retards are going to be able to explain what "Jesus" was to you? They don't know what Christos means. They don't know what the Oils really were (in either case). They don't know that it was an initiation. They don't know the guy had a family. They don't even fucking know the guy's name wasn't "Jesus".
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>>536052851
Stop uploading photos of your dad to support teh argument it doesnt prove anything
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>>536050415
They just made it up, dude. The guy playing the role of "Jesus" pissed them all off immensely. They've lied to us about an incredibly amount; not just who killed him (or tried to, I guess), not why, not just about his family or what happened to them. They lied about most of history proceeding the events that unfurled after the guy pulled one of the coolest switcheroos ever. But none of you know much about the stories because they'd never let you actually learn about them. They just tell you he "walked on water" and hung out with prostitutes and... and... that he was jewish... even though the jews fucking hate him and can't metabolize lactose (if you know anything about the subjects involved, you know why that's such a kill shot on several levels).
But, again, none of you have any idea how to follow along with any of this, do you? What a shame. Maybe you'd remember what happened and why it keeps happening to you like we're all suffering the same fucking groundhog day moment here.
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>>536048317
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>>536050619
>It represents hidden knowledge, only the enlightened are aware of what's inside the box and have the true power that comes with knowing that.
Good fucking god, dude. Are you serious? Really? How much of a nigger are you going to be? No, it's not le super secret and no one knows about it. It's called Moksha and it's a Malkuth setting. It doesn't represent "hidden knowledge". It represents this box we're all locked in together and, as we've vaguely already touched on, certain deities or archetypes or whatever you want to call them exist to help exercise this process. One of those access vectors is the Shiva-Odin archetype. You can le Moksha if you want through this route they say. It wasn't really my jam. We've got shit to do, sport.
>Jesus was most likely not crucified on a 'lower case t' style cross.
Better. It was a Tree. Just like Odin (Yggdrasil), Attis (Pine), Shakyamuni (Bodhi) and Yama (Banyan).
>When Peter was crucified he demanded demanded it be done upside down
And now you get to learn about the Qliphoth.
>unfolded cube
Now you get to learn what "Bodhisattva" means. "Unfolding the cube" means Moksha. If we're unfurling the "cube", it means to release (You) from Samsara. "Jesus", then, becomes a Bodhisattva and it's why he "comes back to help". You'll find the Tree, then, to be across a River. This River can only be crossed on a Ferry of some kind.
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>>536048483
Stay strong, marines!
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>>536051614
>wtf am i looking at
THE TRVTH
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>>536050987
>Satan is our sun.
"Satan" is an egregore created by the normalfags to Yom Kippur Christianity. By all means, smash Satan against some rocks if you really need to.
>They call him Morningstar because
This is what I mean. Why do normalfags keep doing this? Lucifers are always outstanding benefactors of humanity. This conflation is vastly undeserved. Lucifers like Prometheus or Enki were said to have created mankind. This rhetoric is nonsense. "Lucifer" means "light-bringer" and in virtually all cases was never depicted as an antagonist. "Satans" don't always even stay as antagonists. Do none of you read the stories? Set fucking helped Re fight a Chaos Monster named Apep, you brainlets.
>>536051178
This notion that Jesus was jewish is nonsense and you guys really need to give this up. All the jews hate jesus and Christians. Evidently the guy wasn't "jewish". Instead, it's far more clear Jesus was an Apollo analog. His first followers asserted this pretty confidently in stories like Joseph and Asenath, which was clearly a coded work telling the tale of Jesus and his family getting started and then getting chased around by assassins.
>>536053095
It's fucking crazy that people do not read books but go online and talk about they le hate a god. How stupid.
>>536053670
You're looking for RWA + Oracle burgeoning overlap. Something like Liens going onchain would change the whole industry. In a firmly digital economy, especially under such obvious Uranian and Plutonian influences, this is the kind of transition we're looking for. With Pluto in Aquarius, it's no surprise we're seeing an obvious digital overhaul and you're about to see Jupiter and Venus conjunct in Leo with a Solar Eclipse in Leo toward the end of August. If you look at BTC's chart, you'll see why I'd bring this up (assuming you even know what these words mean).
If anyone here is about to take advantage of Jupiter's upcoming moves, it seems like you, anon. Congrats.
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>>536053514
>It's called Moksha and it's a Malkuth setting.
My mistake. I meant Samsara obviously.
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>>536052483
yes they're larping as jews while also larping as egyptians
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>>536048317
Aparently.
Im not that deep on jewish lore as one should.
Its kind of boring to be desu.
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>>536048528
Yeah they're cool as fuck
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set is the god of foreigners btw
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>>536055696
The rings are sound.
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>>536048483
This is where the jews are broadcast from
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>>536048317
yes
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>>536050191
Saturn is both, the Sun is god but also evil (disaster literally means evil star).
When Saturn worked good it was comfy, when it flared up as it entered the Suns Heliosphere it became Satan.
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>>536056765
>he Sun is god
*good
but also "God" in a way too, after the capture event all the old names of the sun previously put onto Saturn were added to the Sun.
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>>536048317
Earth is a soul trap prison machine. Jews worship the prison warden for material favor.
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>>536048317
Probably, it is weird how no one can really explain the shape of that thing and both Jews and Muzzies worship a cube either having a cube on their head/flag or in Mecca. Though only recently did anyone find out the shape of Saturn's top, coincidences coincidences.
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>>536056765
could the orion nebula be responsible for the birth of our sun?
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>>536054126
Jesus is literally the son of the jewish god and a jewish woman. That makes him a jew
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>>536057035
Someone just told you that "jesus is jewish" and then you've repeated it since you heard that.
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>>536056765
You know you can just read the books, right? Saturn-Hyperion used to be our Sun before Sol-Helios came around. We didn't have a sun for a while. It led to a period of intense glaciation. Then we had a period of intense warming when Sol-Helios scooped us up.
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>>536056980
>1300 lightyears away
no, the direction the sun is coming from we see Canis Major.
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>>536057221
Sol and Helios were actually both names of the Saturnian sun that were later attributed to pic rel.
>We didn't have a sun for a while.
more like the saturnian sun was very dim and then began flaring up.
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>>536057394
It's called a brown dwarf. The stories of Saturn being "unseated", the mythology, was about Saturn dimming. The gravity faded too.
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>>536057548
>It's called a brown dwarf.
yes, thats still a star tho. just not in arc mode but in glow mode.
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>>536058101
Did you know the ancients used to call the planetary bodies "Stars"?
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>>536058210
of course
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Well shucks those moving arms are getting awfully loud, guys. Why do you think that is?
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>>536057035
Pretty sure Jesus denies the Talmud on every other page in the NT
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>>536057104
You cant debate the point so you sneed
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>>536054126
>shizo posting
>100% checks out

God’s work. Thanks for the free financial advice btw.
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Someday, do you think people will walk on the surface of Saturn? :]
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>>536059431
It's telling when someone isn't really familiar with the material in earnest or they'd see all of the obvious gaps building. When you look in the right places, you find people that don't just metabolize lactose, but always talk about bees, honey, hives, bee products (like venom) and plenty more. Even funnier is I made a vague reference to this already, but I'm unsurprised no one mentioned it.
The reality is the "Jesus" cult wasn't like what most people think it was. Kierkegaard was right.
>>536059635
Any Time, friend.
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>>536059891
Kierkegaard was right, as or the vagueposting I don't know.
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>>536060023
Kierkegaard sperged over "Christendom", a term he coined to chastise the failings of people in his day pretending to be Christians but not actually knowing much about Christianity. He may not have had the idea totally. After reading some of his work, it's clear he was a mystic, but I'm not sure he had a full realization. To really understand what Christianity was doing would require unlearning an immense amount of ideas, definitions and comparisons. It's a tall order - not impossible though.
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>>536048317
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>>536048528
>>536048538
>>536048556
All these replies and no one brought up pic related. Wtf is with /pol/ these days?
tl;dr
>Saturn was once Earth's star. Mars, Venus, and Earth were aligned in a unipolar configuration under Saturn's southern pole in that order (I think, Earth was at the bottom though). This is the truth behind all these motifs and deification of Saturn around the world.
>https://saturniancosmology.org/index.php
>https://archive.org/stream/the-saturn-death-cult/The%20Saturn%20Death%20Cult_djvu.txt
They took down the original link for ^, was way too on the nose about why elites worship this dejected former star.
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>>536048483

It's got a galaxy spiral inside of its symbolic hexagon. Creepy ass planet fr.
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>>536050191
Saturn is a watcher the 6th or 7th watcher i forgot. Owls are the messages between the watchers and the humans, thats why they are associated with divinity and wisdom
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>>536060172
Also explains the tilts of planets.
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>>536056654
>>536056765
Germanon, are you the original micronovanon? You have many copycats.
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>>536060149
Ah yeah, what Kierkegaard cared about was "lidenskab" - "passion", to wake up the masses to the gospel. He was indeed tired of the robotic ritualistic manner in which the modern people's church had transformed into.
But I don't think he would appreciate being grouped into some sort of mystic if that is to say a gnostic or new age, he was a Christian and died a Christian while rejecting a priestly blessing, perhaps one of the few people to really earn that title.
Are you a mystic, Anon? New age people are always seeking and unraveling it's quite nauseating to be honest.
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>>536060172
Keep scrolling, faggot.
>They took down the original link for ^, was way too on the nose about why elites worship this dejected former star.
Buddy, Saturn is simply apart of the Hellenistic pantheon. He's firmly apart of the wider syncretic framework that spans many mythologies which I've demonstrated exhaustively.
>>536060181
They call it a portal. Did you watch The OA yet? If you did, things might be starting to add up for you now.
>>536060243
Saturn is a planet, you noob. The Owl is Minerva and a liminal creature - often considered omens of Death. This isn't exactly about Saturn and your image contains nods to Stolas (not exactly an owl, but also not not an owl either) and I'm afraid Ishtar is a Venusian analog, anon.
>>536060373
You can just read the books, you dork.
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>>536060411
>But I don't think he would appreciate being grouped into some sort of mystic if that is to say a gnostic or new age, he was a Christian and died a Christian while rejecting a priestly blessing
Great but we don't agree.
>muh new age
Can you take a few deep breaths for me?
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>>536060472
Your dodging of the question makes me think you're some sort of idiotic seeker, whatever. Vaguepost away. If you never stand for something you can always appear wise.
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>>536060591
>b-b-but
Okay, muggle.
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>>536060414
>Saturn is simply apart of the Hellenistic pantheon.
I'm pointing out why fools defy it. You're spewing some pedantic slop about which pantheons it's part of. Who cares. Saturn was our former sun and the heavens were a lot more active and energetic back then. Constant flybys created flare-up putting on huge lightshows and sometimes cataclysmic events. Just imagine how the sky would have looked. In the end though, these are just bodies in space that can't help you or respond.
>You can just read the books, you dork.
Dwardu's books on this subject are very good. Nothing comes close to detailing the motifs and symbolism arising from that era.
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>>536053514
>THE MADE UP BULLSHIT YOU'RE REFERENCING ISN'T THE SAME AS THE MADE UP BULLSHIT I READ ABOUT!

Calm your tits dude, none of this shit is real. I was explaining one of the levels of the cross, not educating /pol/ niggers on the true cosmology of the metaverse.
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>>536060373
>are you the original micronovanon?
yes its me
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>>536060622
>Muggle
Faggot witch lol
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>>536060629
Will you just fucking read my posts, you dumb nigger?
>>536060639
My posts are more interesting than yours. Be all butthurt about it if you want. I'm the reason for the vast majority of the traffic's thread. We can riff if you want. Apparently all of you are newfags and aren't used to this. It's frankly fucking boring, dude.
>>536060688
It's nearly uncomfortable that you don't even get it.
Again, Kierkegaard was right. It sucks you have no idea what's going on.
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>>536050320
My negroid
Look anywhere in nature and there are hexagons
Maybe Saturn is a space demon or whatever, okay. I'll keep an open mind
However, it's also not impossible that it's also just another coincidence that people have become obsessed with because it's JUST TOO WEIRD AND CONSISENT WITH ALL THESE LOOSE OBSERVATIONS I'VE MADE ABOUT CULTURE
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>>536060675
I really hope you are at least trying to prep.
>>536060727
>Will you just fucking read my posts, you dumb nigger?
No use reading your snobby garbage, retard. How about you go read "The Flare Star" by Dwardu Cardona and learn something instead of flinging shit?
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>>536060793
To try to explain it, the stupid faggots formed drug-adjacent techno-AI cargo cults around these cube sculptures. They don't really understand what an le oCcUltIsM is and couldn't explain how to do a Theurgy if they really tried, but they sure as shit pretend to the other stupid faggots that whatever they're doing means something and then the whole spiritual ponzi scheme just sort of spirals out from there. Just because they do a lot of ketamine and stare at some sculpture in a room for a while and pretend they're doing something doesn't mean they "worship Saturn". It doesn't mean they know what the fuck they're doing. It doesn't mean they have any metaphysical competence. It just means some faggot who leveraged some resources pulled the right lever to make some things happen for them. It's all just a circus and you can't see behind the curtain, you see.
If they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't get super pissed any time someone else figures out how to do anything reliably functional.
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>>536050185
You're limited by blur from the atmosphere, any larger than ~12" or so is a waste without adaptive optics
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>>536060952
You just entered the thread. Scroll up. You have no idea what's going on.
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>>536060952
>at least trying to prep.
probably a waste of time desu as the astronomical data doesnt look too good.
the Ben Davidson scenario or the Diehold foundation/Adam Eve Story scenario are massively underestimating.
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So Saturn is a pretty meta theme in the Occult world, yes, but the descriptions that most of you use aren't just asinine and clearly underinformed, they're obviously constructed by someone with a nefarious intent. Saturn is the guy that governs Samsara, Malkuth, Dharma, the lifecycle you experience while you're alive. It's why people couple him in with the big Builder (again, see Ptah, Gadreel, Saklas, Demiurge, Tetragrammaton, etc.) archetype; he's responsible for the structure you experience like forward progression of time or the straight lines you see and feel, for maturation and, when you do it right, Wisdom.
This notion that Saturn "ate his children" comes from an artistic depiction about a story which anthropomorphizes a planetary collision with its satellite. Just like when Jupiter did it, Saturn put them back - no losses. Everyone can calm down. It was a mythologized historical recount of an astronomical phenomenon. As for this making him "evil"; that's retarded and if some idiot makes a cargo cult around Saturn for something this insane, it doesn't automatically change the whole, really very established, metaphysical landscape which has been charged for an incredibly long time, not just a few centuries or even ten.
Just because jews wear these blocks on their heads or the mudslimes walk in circles like bugs doesn't mean anyone has dominion over Saturn, that they're working with Saturn or that they measurably appease Saturn with their playful retardations. This behavior has no bearing on the foundational establishment of metaphysical frameworks. If you learn anything about the related subjects, it becomes immediately clear that threads like these are weird limited hang outs, that the rhetoric in use isn't just incoherent, time-wasting bullshit or a bunch of bots designed to waste your time, but meant to disrupt your ability to properly learn about Saturn, the wider subjects or form coherent ideas about their syntheses.
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>>536060414
Saturn is a watcher, this predates the idea of Minerva owl, these are Sumerian myths, stolas is an ars goetia Solomonic demon, the story of Ishtar is about her meeting the watchers and its not Ishtar, its Ereshkigal.
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>>536061335
its just a star that got captured by a bigger sun and is getting dragged into total nigger death in the apex cloud.
people build cults around saturn or aspects of it because they thought it was god.
turns out its not. balls of plasma dont care how much you circumcise dicks. has no influence on macro plasma physics.
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>>536061370
>its not Ishtar, its Ereshkigal
Are you okay?
>Saturn is a watcher
Are we jumping to Titanomachy and Early Christian and Neoplatonic theory? Because if so, I covered that pretty thoroughly. Did you miss the part about Hyperion? Do you not know what that was about?
>predates the idea of Minerva owl
Saturn is several things inside of several systems. I was talking about Owl symbolism. An owl isn't a symbol of Saturn, but of Minerva and a few others. Also, why are you pausing to explain all of these things? I know what you're talking about. Did you not read the thread at all?
So you didn't understand what I meant when I said Saturn is a planet? The cube has Six sides. He's the Sixth planet.
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>>536052669
where do you learn all this shit?
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>>536048317
Yes. Saturn is the demiurge, our jailor. The jews are his servants. Lucifer is Saturn's rival for Sophia's love. Sophia loves Lucifer. Envious Saturn imprisoned Sophia in the Kaaba. Saturn then bound Lucifer and made his prison the axis of reality. Lucifer is the Qutb saint, reincarnated as different men throughout the ages. Lucifer is not aware of who he is when he's reincarnated. Once he becomes aware then he will break out of his axial prison, free Sophia from the Kaaba, and destroy Saturn's reality prison matrix.
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>>536061564
>its just a star that got captured by a bigger sun and is getting dragged into total nigger death in the apex cloud.
That's what I've explained in four or five posts now, you annoying faggot.
>people build cults around saturn or aspects of it because they thought it was god.
Yeah, okay.
>turns out its not
Uh, what? Did you just skip to a random conclusion? I don't care if you believe something or not. I'm not here for that. I'm here to explain what the books (that you seem to avoid reading, weirdly) say and what the idiots who talk about them usually think. I have offered some of my own opinions here, but only insofar as they aligned with what was stated, really. I'm not going to offer you much of my own stuff. Why would I do that?
>>536061688
I use an AI or something probably. I don't know. I'm really dumb.
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>>536060994
It looks like you're very well versed in mythohistory and ancient pagan theology around the world but isn't it safe to just deduce all of this to a bunch of fools deifying the forces of nature caused by planetary bodies? I mean, that is what it all boils down to essentially. Can you explain more about who Jesus was and what his message was really about? You're being quite vague about him. This >>536057221 post of yours is about the only thing I'm most familiar with. The rest is honestly just a stew of nonsense from fools around the world across many eras.
>>536061044
Well, we'll all find out if we live to see it.
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>>536054126
>it's no surprise we're seeing an obvious digital overhaul and you're about to see Jupiter and Venus conjunct in Leo with a Solar Eclipse in Leo toward the end of August. If you look at BTC's chart, you'll see why I'd bring this up (assuming you even know what these words mean).
If anyone here is about to take advantage of Jupiter's upcoming moves
care to eli5 re: BTC? what are we looking at here?
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>>536061772
>That's what I've explained in four or five posts now
and that means I cant do it better?
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>>536061713
This theory lasted maybe two or three hundred years before Plotinus made fun of everyone and they visibly felt stupid and we just sort of went to inscribing Tetragrammaton on necklaces and shit in a hundred years or so. In other words, this general range of theories didn't last very long and it's weird any of you latch on to it despite clearly not knowing much else about this.
>>536061808
>isn't it safe to just deduce all of this to a bunch of fools deifying the forces of nature caused by planetary bodies?
Okay, you don't seem retarded anymore. Level with me here: am I just autistic or are you not understanding the words I'm saying? I explained exactly this in like three different posts now.
>>536061808
>Can you explain more about who Jesus was and what his message was really about?
"Jesus" and and the guy you mean to ask about are tough to differentiate. The latter is some mythical once-in-a-generation hero sort of like George Washington or Alexander the Great. Explaining what the guy actually did would probably mean meandering into incoherence. Can I say he did a Red + White and just hope that means something to you? Probably not, right? Can I say he drank the Soma from the Dagda's Cauldron and learned the Imbas-Awen? Yeah, still probably not. But what I can tell you is he didn't die and he learned something that can't be turned off or undone and it doesn't matter how many times anyone tries to kill their way out of this.
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>>536061644
Yea its not Ishtar, its Ereshkigal. I said owls are a symbol of divine knowledge/messagers, not of Saturn. Also Saturn is the 7th celestial body, this predates heliocentrism.
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how did jews know about Saturn 3000 years ago?
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>>536048317
Yes. El is Saturn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)

The Jewish holy day is Saturday
Saturn is the most high of the Chaldean order.
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>>536061955
You know, when I was in your shoes, I could never think of a good question to ask when I had a chance. I was always thinking, "man, I'm going to miss this opportunity asking about how to feed my dog or some similarly trivial bullshit and I just know it." and I think I never managed more than that in hindsight.
Rambling aside, I can't actually answer this for you coherently and you have to understand that. If not for anatomical reasons, for I know way too many tokens to throw at you to make you know that I know things but not a coherent enough way to explain it to you for you to just go and pull a lever and make money. Believe me, if I could spite them hard enough to manage that, anon, I'd do it. And, believe me, it would spite them tremendously.
I can't tell you what to buy though and I think you know that. If you can see with CLARITY like I do, what's happening right now should be pretty obvious. That means you have a month or so to learn all you can. You won't learn Astrology in that amount of time simultaneously, so don't try that. Save that for later and use what I gave you to get a good idea of what to do and how to do it in the mean time. You have a while to really learn, but not a lot of time to position like the rest of us have been doing.
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>>536062072
Alright, just look up both of those things and ask an AI if they're related or something. I don't care if you know and I think I've done enough I know more than you already anyway, don't you think?
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>>536051702
Satan is Saturn per the penguin dictionary of symbols entry “Satan”
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>>536048556
>Sauron mogs noble creatures
>I guess you have to join evil, goyim
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>>536062319
Satan is a psychopomp. If you really need to match "Satan" or a guy overseeing Death to the Hellenistic mold, it's obviously going to be Pluto-Hades. Saturn used to be Solar Chad and then got demoted to Old Guy Time (he has a cool scythe though - so I see why you'd get confused).
Prarie got confused too in the beginning. He thought HAP was just killing them. He wasn't not doing that, don't get me wrong. But he was also listening to the sound it made when they died - the sound Saturn makes.
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>>536048413
Bazinga.
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>>536050191
jesus is the sun, holy shit isn't that obvious.
why do you think easter happens when the sun is at its highest exaltation? why do you think the church made it so that easter always must occur when the sun is in aries?
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>>536052669
Evil is a human concept.
However, Saturn rules with an iron fist and he will dispatch those who displease him without hesitation.
The Old Testament God is angry at humanity for their disobedience and corruption. That why he flooded the world, why he wiped sodom and Gomorrah off the map and is prophecied to end this world by fire once mankind has become too corrupt to save.
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THE ALIEN ARRIVAL IS CONFIRM FOR TUESDAY MORNING 9:30 AM EST TIME.
QANON INSIDER HERE WITH DEEPSTATE ILLUMINATI SEE YOU ALL IN THE MOTHERSHIPS GOODLUCK SAFE.

PS. Disappearance of UFO expert Gen. Neil McCasland 'confirmed gameover'
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>>536056765
>disaster literally means evil star
This retard thinks the sun is a star, and Saturn isn't.
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>>536062472
>Saturn rules with an iron fist and he will dispatch those who displease him without hesitation.
If you weren't a retard, you would understand that Mars rules with an iron fist and that he will dispatch those who displease him without hesitation.
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>>536062472
>The Old Testament God is angry at humanity for their disobedience and corruption
So the Old Testament God is like the Sun
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>>536062099
Everyone knew about Saturn 3000 years ago. Only in the last 400 years materialist retardation sipped in thanks to pseudoscientists like Copernicus or Galileo
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>>536062048
>Okay, you don't seem retarded anymore. Level with me here: am I just autistic or are you not understanding the words I'm saying? I explained exactly this in like three different posts now.
You do somewhat point out how the ancients were just fools stargazing and making stories up in ways that can be easily transferred to their descendants via fantastical motifs and tales. But you seem to have this disdain for how anons view Saturn. You spent a lot of time differentiating the current Sun from the former brown dwarf, maybe you are referring to the capture event in pic related? Honestly, you got me beat on the depth of knowledge you have on ancient texts and mythology in relation to stars (planets) but I think we're in agreement that it's blatant idol worship. They can't help or respond in any way. I'll admit that it is quite interesting, though. The world as we know it was very different back then.
>But what I can tell you is he didn't die and he learned something that can't be turned off or undone and it doesn't matter how many times anyone tries to kill their way out of this.
Ok, I'll bite. What does that mean? Why don't you address his claims against the Israelites and their deviation from original Judaism? Why don't you address how he continued the same Abrahamic message from long before his time?
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>>536062472
>However, Saturn rules with an iron fist and he will dispatch those who displease him without hesitation.
Yes, that's correct. Saturn doesn't give a tiny sliver of a shit if you pout about the maturation process. You're still going to do it.
>The Old Testament God
Look, dude, these are just stories some guy threw together. Revelation is older than the New Testament and the New Testament is older than muh Old Testament. "Jesus" is just Mithras, Apollo, Sol-Invictus, Helios, Horus-Re and on and on and on. He's also Dionysus and Odin too. Any idea what that means? I'm not sure you do. Most people don't. I like to think of him as a Bodhisattva (mostly because he fits the description perfectly) if nothing else. Son of God? I'm not saying no, don't get me wrong. I like the core Christian teachings and think whoever the guy is is whatever "Jesus" was. But was Apollonius that guy? Was it Goidel Glas? Was it Caesarion? Was it King Arthur? Was it Issa? Was it Jason? Or were these guys all just the same retelling of whatever Apollo kept getting rebranded as?
Either way, "Christianity" seems to have began with the Essenes. What they were into wasn't exactly related to muh Four Gospels. Plato did write about Five Forms, however. His Fifth form, the composite, was mirrored in blooming Christianity when the Four Baser Platonic Solids became the Four Gospels and the Fifth composite became the Inner Order.
Anyway, Jesus is an alien, guys. Jung was right. Neuroscience lifts the Veil to the Grail.
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>>536061335
If you're calling the Saturn cult stupid, that's antisemitic. If you deny that the Saturn cult is a proper proponent of human sacrifice, then do you disavow human sacrifice as an illegitimate practice? Also antisemitic (not joking, see their own statements about abortion( but fine.
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>>536062700
>He's also Dionysus and Odin too
>Guys, Jesus isn't just the Sun... He is also Mercury too!
Do you even listen to yourself
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>>536062573
I wonder what made the ancients associate Mars with war, glory, triumph, and all that other machismo bs? Maybe constantly fucking up Venus in the old configuration? Who knows.
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>>536062487
>and Saturn isn't.
of course saturn is a star, should have worded my post better for sure.
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A modern demonstration of this symbology is Star Wars.
Darth Vader is the Saturn demiurge ruler of the universe. He rules with absolute authority. He wears the black robe of Saturnalian authority (judge, graduate, magician, banker, etc) Vader wears the bejeweled breast plate of the high priest and the equilateral triangle (symbol of the most high) is the most prominent feature of his face.
Luke is Jesus /Lucifer/Venus the light barer /light saber.
Vader tempts Luke to join him to rule in cloud city. This is analogous to Satan temping Jesus in “an unusually high place” in the Bible.
Like if the father of Vader
Jesus is the son of God/El/ Saturn
Saturn is the highest planet of the Chaldean order and the last day of the week (in the classical sense) and preceded by Venus (viernes/friday) the light barer the day just beneath Saturns day.
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>>536062681
"Humanity" is a non-local entity. We currently occupy human vessels on this planet for reasons none of us can adequately explain. Trying to kill the guy that teaches people there's more to life than the physical world and more to (You) than the body you wear was core to this guy's mission. He was so profoundly effective that everyone formed a cargo cult around him that splintered off a million times and everyone wants to claim him. But all the stories say he didn't die. How can that be?
It's because he's immortal and so are you. That body isn't what you are. That's the point. What Saturn does is facilitates this process, providing you a body to use while you mature as while of the vegetables in his garden. You can get upset about it, sure, but it won't turn this process off. You can try to kill the guy trying to help you, sure, but that won't work either. What can work is a concerted effort to right some wrongs. What's really unfolding, why everyone seems to feel so crazy these days - why they had to do a pandemic, why we keep doing wars, why we can't know more about the epstein files, why the economy is getting overhauled - believe it or not, anon, all have to do with the same central shift in humanity.
Do you know who Julian Jaynes is? Have you watched Westworld yet?
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>>536062700
Whether or not these stories are true is irrelevant to the fact they exist and have effected history for thousands of years
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>>536062811
Mars is the planet of youthful masculinity. It is not tethered to the sun, it isn't beautiful like the moon or domineering like the sun, but just a red spot in the sky that can't be arsed to move and not tethered to the sun like mercury or venus but is still way faster than jupiter or saturn
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>>536062882
*Luke is the son of Vader

Posting from my phone
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>>536062882
That is an accurate assessment.
It's not just the black robe that is saturnal, but the colour black itself belongs to the planet.
Darth Vader is the object of saturnal restriction, while Palpatine is the subject of saturnal power. They are two sides of the same coin.
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>>536062754
>Do you even listen to yourself
Yes, that's correct. Jesus is very Thoth-like. Again, that's kind of the point here, anon. Jesus died on a Tree (like Yggdrasil, Banyan, Bodhi, Pine and on and on), he made and drank funny wines with his friends, he died, did some fun shit down in the underworld, maybe scored a few bitches, maybe got in a bar fight, who knows? But he also spoke the Word (see Messenger of the Gods and Meade of Poetry as well as Odin's Runes - you know the story) or Logos. You know, the same Word Arthur spoke or Alexander used to cut that Knot.
Come on we're having fun.
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>>536048882
Newton had more talent and scientific knowledge than the right panel put together
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>>536060414
>Saturn is a planet, you noob.
saturn is a star
>>536063064
Newton was a nepobaby gay retard tho
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>>536060414
>Saturn is simply apart of the Hellenistic pantheon
It's the other way around. Mythology exists to make astrology accessible to the masses.
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>>536062266
i did an image search on my first post with AI and it said "Ishtar, Ereshkigal or Lilith" maybe thats why you said Ishtar haha but its Eshkigal.
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>>536048648
>morcury
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>>536062959
Did you think I would disagree or something?
I'm saying what the poser lunatics are doing isn't anything coherent. The stories we received from the ancients through all these weird ass mediums firmly effected us and in demonstrable ways. They're firmly attached to us and on levels that humanity still has yet to firmly wrestle with. Jung's work was profound but it hit all of the wrong cords with all of the right people and as a result he gets tossed to the side a bit too frequently. Why? Mostly because he explained a monstrous amount that set a great deal in motion.
See, human psychology evolved alongside Mythology. As we learn in Jaynes' work on Consciousness cycles, it's evident that Mythology and Psychology are literally synonymous. Back before humanity could describe themselves with agency, they'd describe forces of the Gods acting through them. This is how we got Astrology and accompanying Astrotheology and its offshoots like Melothesia. Jaynes explains a lot about this, but ultimately the idea here is the development from baser spiritual systems like Animism to Pantheism is important and giving way to more and more refined systems down to Monotheism tells us something.
You know what's alarming about this? We've replaced "The Gods" with ecelebs. So it appears we're on the brink of another Consciousness reverberation. What's happening now doesn't seem good. Have you read many older works? Do you think people are smarter or dumber today?
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>>536063128
We covered this several times now.
>>536063158
Well surely the Hellenistic pantheon isn't apart of Saturn.
>>536063194
Can you just look this shit up, dude?
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>>536062942
>It's because he's immortal and so are you. That body isn't what you are. That's the point. What Saturn does is facilitates this process, providing you a body to use while you mature as while of the vegetables in his garden
Damn, this is what you were hiding? You're one of these Saturn cultists? Wtf is this ball of gas floating in space, thrown far away from it's original station, gonna do for you, anon? You're simply falling for delusions of grandeur passed down by ancient fools. Be honest, are you jewish? You have all the traits. Although, you might be right about the reason why certain things are happening right now. The elites who run the world might believe in the same bullshit you believe in.

Now back to Jesus, can you stop beating around the bush and tell me your views on his message? Why is it so shockingly similar to the original Judaism? Why was he blatantly against the idol worship of the Israelites? Most importantly, why have jews worked so unimaginably hard to hide his true message? Also, you seem to believe he pulled off some kind of grand deception about his death, if I'm not mistaken, how did you reach that conclusion?

Apologies for all the questions but you seem to ramble a lot.
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>>536048317
>DIOS MIO
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>>536048317
Yes
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>>536062966
Interesting. And all those scars on its surface suggests it's been through some violent shit.
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>>536063372
>Damn, this is what you were hiding?
There's a lot more to it, but I'm not trying to break you.
>You're one of these Saturn cultists?
I read the books, learn Astrology and try to take forces bigger than me seriously. If you're going to lump me in with the retarded posers, be my guest.
>tell me your views on Jesus
Like I explained before, there are two versions of "Jesus". One is the guy you know of which is a recount of the other previous versions of the same story. The other one is not so commonly retold on purpose. Some say he freed a lot of slaves. Some say he was a famous spiked wine dealer. Some say he started some weird drug orgy cult thing. Some say he belonged to a powerful bloodline or two.
Do you know what the Orphic Code is, anon? Do you know why he kept insisting on "speaking in Parables"?
>Apologies for all the questions but you seem to ramble a lot.
They used to call them "he who rambles".
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>>536048317
It doesn’t really matter, In relatively short time, everyone, rich or poor will die and be replaced with another set of humans. And no amount of kvetching or transhumanist agenda can change that. Everything rich people gathered, all suffering of poor people, gone. This scares materialistic billionaires and it gives me immense pleasure. “Muh A.I. copy of muh soul”. Nope dead, into the dirt you go
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>>536048317
They worship themselves.
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Two minutes to midnight Friday central time
What an appropriate time for this post
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>>536063520
So you're dubious about his identity? I'm not Christian but I know that he was not God or His son. He simply urged the Israelites to do away with their innovations deviating from the original message of worshipping the One God. You know, the One who created Saturn and all these other stars? It seems like the only true religion is the religion of Abraham. All the other ones worship idols, one's own self, or stars. It's clear which path is right and which path is evil.
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>>536050185
It’s real.
I’ve been studying these images for several years now.
The real question is how did the ancients know what was on the crown of Saturn.
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>>536063781
They simply had a close-up look, anon. Read through this thread there are some interesting takes about this former brown dwarf that can't do anything for you.
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>>536063372
>Wtf is this ball of gas floating in space, thrown far away from it's original station, gonna do
the Cathodes (the Jovians) are actually more likely to experience the most violent structural changes first during the Micronova happening and fissioning is on the table, so creation of new planets, moons, asteroids etc.
Why?
because in a circuit, the load/cathode takes the direct impact of the incoming current.
while the anode provides the pressure, the cathode is where the actual work is being done and where the particles are slamming into something.
a massive surge would cause the planetary magnetospheres to destabilize and potentially ignite too. another source for CMEs and radiation that could fuck the earth. could also fling the earth out of orbit.
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In Hellenism, Saturn ruled over the golden age which is analogous to the garden of Eden- Man with God on earth.
The messianic age heralds the return of God with man on earth- a new golden age.
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>>536048317
you autistic online goyim could never understand just how evil judaism is
so yeah jews worship Saturn, whatever you want, dont worry about it, just know jews are evil
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>>536056654
>believing this is Baal
goy please I yield
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>>536063831
I’ve seen ancient stories that claim Saturn was once much closer to earth. Its leaving is again analogous to God leaving man as in the fall in paradise and the end of the golden age.
Some say this I even why the X and S are sometimes alternated in the name of Abraxas/Abrasax
If that were true, the ancients could have sen the cube on the crown and the departure of Saturn could have resulted in a deluge.
Food for thought
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>>536063956
I try not to “just know” anything
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>>536064109
you should know that jews are evil
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>>536063862
These Saturn cultists are going to go mad when their beloved mere gas giant starts rapidly changing as our solar system hits the crux of the galactic current sheet. Clown world weimar on steroids.
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>>536063778
I'm still saying there were two guys here, a biblical "Jesus" (that wasn't his name the other times, just this time) and an actual guy. What he did is up for debate. The story told about the Biblical "Jesus" is a replica of other people in other places retold for reasons described here >>536063264. These stories we're telling ourselves describe internal archetypes that comprise most of the general human identity. Some people use them to feel good about themselves. Some people use them to explore how they feel about Death. Some of them just like smashing chickens to death. It seems the real guy thoroughly enjoyed getting blasted as shit with his friends and talking to ghosts (they called it "dead people", but we can reasonably deduce they were talking to muh ancestors, which you'll find is a common le occult practice).
So we should separate the stories told in the Bible and the guy that actually existed. Not only are those only four of dozens of gospels, there are many more writings that describe a hell of a lot about the guy that was obviously glossed over or oddly left out of the Four Gospels. As explained earlier and a few times since in a few different ways, the "Four Gospels" concept is a strategy to hide things. Lodge systems use these to taunt and annoy normalfags and they deserve to be annoying faggots for doing it and you frankly deserve to be taunted about it so I don't blame them much anymore.
Anyway, the actual guy wasn't just a drug addict and that much is clear, but I'm also not going to prance around talking in certainties about him either because that would actually be dubious. We're not allowed to know those stories and it's on purpose. They, again, tried to kill his family. They're clearly not fond of him, what he did, or even discussions like this, I'd wager.
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>>536048317
YEAH AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS GOING 2 FAIL LEL
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>>536064067
The claim that Saturn was once our former star in the form of a brown-dwarf is not only mentioned many times in the mythohistorical record worldwide, it is a fact provable by applying the scientific method. Where some went wrong is deifying this mere object in the heavens.
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>>536063862
if this charge exists between the poles what exactly is insulating each side of the planet from one another?
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>>536060172

Sick links thx, reading the book now its fucking insane
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>>536064282
>it is a fact provable by applying the scientific method
and we are applying this method to what data exactly? how are we recreating results to draw this conclusion exactly?
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>>536064282
prove it then jeet
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>>536064067
what caused Saturn to leave earth then? what force then happened to effect it at the perfect part in this new orbit to circularize it like the rest of the planets? was it magic? did you make this up? id call you a schizophrenic but this seems too retarded
ps: this is why youre called goyim btw
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>>536064306
>what exactly
the polar regions are insulated from one another by the stars highly resistive neutral atmosphere and its massive magnetospheric fields which act as both,a dielectric barrier and a magnetic deflector against the flow of current.
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>>536064185
Anon, what's the point of this cop out argument
>we don't really know who he was
The son of Mary is who I'm referring to. What was his true message and why did the Israelites, the jews, deny it? I think you know but you are just being disingenuous. Or maybe we're not really understanding each other idk. It's getting late. Was a good discussion. Stop worshipping fallen gas giants, fool.
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>>536064594
right so why cant charge flow through the planet itself? what in the planets makeup acts as an insulator but doesn't exist in the poles? what causes these charges to build up in the poles?
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>>536064505
I didn’t make it up.
I’m just sharing stories I have read (ie didn’t make up)
I don’t know why Saturn left. I’ve never seen that part of the story.
I was clear that this was only offered for consideration.
I wasn’t there and obviously these stories aren’t rooted in science.
Calling me names is just immature and unnecessary.
I’m just trying to have a decent conversation.
You don’t win a prize for being a jerk to people.
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>>536064814
please share the story where people mention a giant ball in the sky so vivid they can make out the shape of a storm on its pole and then mention it flying away from earth
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>>536064667
because the vast majority of its volume consists of high resistivity neutral matter, whereas the poles act as collection points (where intense electromagnetic forcing specifically through magnetospheric funneling concentrates plasma to create highly conductive terminals).
poles are separated from the surrounding space by Double Layers, which act as powerful capacitive barriers or voltage gates that hold the charge in place until the electrical pressure is high enough to trigger a massive discharge.
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>>536052669
Where do you fit Enlil into this picture
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>>536064854
Hellenistic mythology holds that the golden age was ruled by Saturn and he was with man on earth until he was deposed by the Olmpians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age
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>>536065030
Enlil was an aspect of the god An or Anu as well as Shamash and these divine aliases stood for the Saturnian deity too.
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Can someone explain to me do they worship the literal planet or just the name or something? Is something supposed to be there?
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>>536065200
Because the planets are the archon rulers of heaven.
From an ancient flat earth perspective, the planet move in an “arch” across the sky.
The planets are eternal and exist in higher places than human experience and are hence revered.
It makes as much to sense to worship the planets above anything else in observable nature as they are the celestial bodies of the heavens.
The hieightnof things is a big deal in religion. Mount Zion is a good example of this.
Saturn is the highest observable thing to the naked eye in nature.
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itt: untreated mental illness
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>>536065200
>do they worship the literal planet or just the name or something?
its basically a meme that went too far and now they are way too invested in it too stop.
imagine having to admit you mutilated your peoples dicks for thousands of years for nothing kek
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>>536065371
Bro they’re just massive objects
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>>536050683
>Reality is one hell of a drug
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>>536065116
Like Enlil is An‘s avatar or something? They always read as very different to me, and then Shamash the sun as just a totally different guy
If anything I’d say Enlil most ≈ El, but I don’t really into Ugaritic
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>>536064976
>neutral matter
what is this matter? not that I really care because you are simply wrong you can watch lightning storms happen on Jupiter with beginner level astronomy kit
>magnetospheric funneling concentrates plasma to create highly conductive terminals).
so you dont know what z pinch is but claim its happening without evidence, interesting
>poles are separated from the surrounding space by Double Layers
double layers of what?
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>>536064854

You are being so rude and wanting to be spoonfed that you deserve the AI slop that will actually teach you something because of how far down you are:

According to comparative mythologists, ancient global oral histories record a time when a giant planetary ball hung stationary over Earth's north pole before fleeing into deep space.
In Egypt, this was the colossal Aten disc. Its center featured a chaotic, swirling vortex known as the Eye of Ra, which was anchored to Earth by a brilliant pillar of light called the Djed. This golden age abruptly ended when the deity grew weary of humanity and the great sphere literally receded into the high heavens, abandoning Earth.
Similarly, the Sumerians and Babylonians witnessed Shamash, a massive celestial structure ruling the polar summit. A swirling, umbilical conduit of wind and fire—the Dur-An-Ki ("The Bond of Heaven and Earth")—physically tied our world to its center. When this alignment shattered, the texts record that the gods "fled" to the highest sanctuary, triggering a global flood.
Across the Atlantic, the Maya described an original luminary, Seven Macaw, hovering vividly overhead. At its center whirled Huracan ("Heart of Sky"), a powerful, localized polar vortex. The Popol Vuh details a violent cosmic battle where this giant ball was overthrown, forcing the planets to scatter into their current, distant orbits.
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>>536065473
That’s obvious from a modern perspective.
Imagine living in a time before the age of reason and significant technology.
In that context, the planets hold a much higher significance and are more impressive when they only had to compete with the natural world.
We live in a world where technological marvels are so common they are boring.
The ancients had little more than the night sky to ponder so that’s what they focused on.
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>>536048556
Zoom out
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Sailor Saturn, who wanted to destroy the world was originally called Sailor Satan. They had to change it because it was too dark for what in that time was considered a children's manga. Something to think about.
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>>536065494
in a Sumerian hymn, Inanna is clearly made to proclaim that she is her "father Enlils splendid wild cow"
when it comes to ishtar, inanna's Babylonian surrogate, her father is presented under different names which denotes the Saturnian deitys different aspects.
In Elam Ishtar was also considered the daughter of Enlil.
but in Uruk as also elsewhere she was generally represented as the daughter of Anu.
She was however also known as the daughter of Ea.
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>>536048648
What they storing in storage?
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>>536048317
Real talk pol. What are the odds that jews are aliens from Saturn

Would explain why every culture has treated them with suspicion
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>>536065636
>You are being so rude
not really, its pretty life changing to suggest that stuff so excuse me for being interested
>>536065073
and the best way to explain this myth is with the gas giant originally being so close to earth people could make out shapes on its poles?
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>>536048317
What does it matter? Why is this faggot thread always up, I don't know what it even means? Why would it matter if retards worship a planet, and what would even be the point of it?
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>>536048317
Its even weirder that they have the star of david and that hexagon pattern wasnt discovered until the 80s by modern scientists. Each day I lean more towards ancient society knowing more than we assumed. But yeah the Bible even mentions jews worshiping saturn and God calling them a bunch of degenerate faggots about it. Book of Amos I believe.
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>>536065707

I dont get it im too stupid
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>>536050573
I don’t care much for religion but the only thing that makes sense for humans to worship is the sun desu
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>>536050269
The universe is a 3 dimensional rendering of what's in heaven. So it's possible every star represents an angel.
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Since we are discussing saturn, here is a three hour video of all raw CASSINI images from the Saturn pass and the ring dive

https://youtu.be/FO6EGN7WjX4
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>>536048413
>>536066262
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>>536065614
>mfw a literal midwit tries to lecture me on plasma electrodynamics because he saw a blurry Jupiter through a shitsmeared $50 telescope
also a "z-pinch" is literally the standard mechanism for current filamentation in any non neutral plasma, if you think concentrated birkeland currents dont undergo constriction via the Lorentz force, please kill yourself.
as for "double layers of what", holy shit do you know nothing at all nigger? its a charge separation layer (ions vs electrons) and inherent to any sheath interface between a conductor and a plasma environment.
if you havent even read a basic textbook on debye shielding or plasma sheath formation dont pretend to be skeptical.
you arent being a skeptic you're just being and illiterate brain damaged pajeet.

now go back to your beginner astronomy kit made from cow shit and stop wasting everyones time with these bottom jeet tier gotcha questions.
imagine thinking local atmospheric lightning disproves planetary scale potential differences. holy shit what a retard.
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>>536050320
It's not. It's an AI generated image retard.
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>>536066514
>retard who refuses to explain how Jupiter isnt transferring charge around itself despite lighting being visible claims to be an electrical engineer
okay champ whatever you say, still cant explain the lighting or what this magical super insulator is inside the planet
but yeah man any day the buzzwords are gonna turn Jupiter into a brown dwarf and give jews magic powers
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>>536066554
Look at this super genius who's totally not wrong
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>being critical of Saturn on Saturnsday
bit rude innit
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they worship yahweh, father of jesus christ
jews think space is fake, remember?
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>>536063781
As we have seen with the absurdity of the fully-lit sepia-toned "ancient-looking" Pluto photographs bearing the "coincidental" silhouette of the Masonic Disney cartoon character, NASA is once again mocking those who trust anything about NASA.

If you believe that we can trust NASA to tell us what's on the crown of Saturn, after they have lied to us about everything, then you will believe anything you're told as long as it appeals to your ego or your myth-seeking collective ego.

They mock you with a cartoon character front and center on Pluto. But you just can't accept it. That condom in my wife's vagina? It must be a coincidence. Unexplainable stuff happens.
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>>536056765
i feel like you saturn types attempt to associate completely unrelated concepts based on their phonetic similarity to one another, rather than anything of substance.
itd be like me claiming santa is satan.
so youll have to forgive me if i dont take you people seriously.
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>>536060243
Owls are usually associated with bad omens and horrible shit
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>>536067156

Are you saying that Pluto the dog cartoon character is shaped this way because Disney knew about this geographic appearance of Pluto prior to its discovery? Big if true but sounds like a big reach
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>>536048317
>joos
That would be the Saturn death cult Icke is always talking about. But there is definitely some overlap there.
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>>536067227
Santa possibly is Saturn
He’s a bearded old man that
judges you at the end and bestows reward and punishment.
He flies around in his chariot and wears the triangular hat of the most high and his outfit is red with black trim-the colors of Saturn.

That’s an interpretation but Satan is related directly to Satan in the penguin dictionary of symbols p827
“Satan is another name for Saturn”
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>>536066787
>still cant explain
its not my problem that you are functionally illiterate in every way like every pajeet. but thats typical of pajeets.
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>>536067227
>itd be like me claiming santa is satan.
and you wouldnt even be wrong about it.
bearded magic guy that lives in the north? this fits a lot of saturn "gods".
why? because thats where the saturnian sun was stationary according to many ancient cultures.
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>>536067510
>“Satan is another name for Saturn”
some have seen the name "Satan" as having been derived from "Saturn."
Etymologically, this cannot be accepted since the name Satan is merely the English transcription of the Semitic "Shaitan". There are other indications, however that the entity known as Satan owes its origin to the planetary god in question.
The Gospel of Bartholomew names this "adversary of men" as Beliar (the same as Belial), which is merely a different rendering of Bel, whose identity as Saturn has been recognized by ancient as well as modern authorities.
The Gospel of Matthew, on the other hand, identifies him with Beelzebub (or Beelzebul), which should be more correctly rendered "Ba'al Zebub".
Later still, the early Christian Fathers continued to regard Ba'al Zephon as Satan. And yet Ba' al Zephon translates as Lord of the North, which is a very appropriate title for the Saturnian planetary god situated in Earth's north celestial pole.

the Israelite EL, a common form of the Near Eastern Saturnian deity, is often referred to as "Ba'al".
Even Yahweh, identified as a Saturnian deity, was equated with Ba'al.
The Prophet Hosea himself referred to Yahweh as the Ba'al of Israel.
It therefore becomes evident that Satanic and divine power were ambiguously regarded as having been one and the same.
This ambiguity continues to be evidenced by the Gypsy name for "God, " which is "devel".
This is traceable to early Indo European nomenclature.
Thus, as it ended up in Hinduism, the word deva stood for "God."
But according to Persian (or Iranian) tradition , deva stood for "fiend" or "devil."
a Kurdish tribe known as the Yezidis worship Shaitan as a god. To them , Shaitan represents the real force of divine power. All this has been brought out here in order to stress the disparity of the planetary god Saturn who continued to be remembered both as the Lord of Light and the Star of Evil.
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>>536067510
Also Santa lived in the highest place above everyone else and his judgment comes at the end of the year.
Saturn is the god of time and is associated with the bearded Father Time figure/both carry the sickle
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>>536067510
see. its exactly like that. you people reek of spiritually jewish energy. got a real intellectual and spiritual babby aura about you.
it reeks of desperation, and doesnt really demand to be taken seriously. and so i just dont take you seriously.
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>>536060675
>>are you the original micronovanon?
>yes its me

MICRO NOVA ANON !!!!!!

I moved to picrel after reading THE MICRO NOVA IS COMING on a bunch of your posts and reading THE ADAM AND EVE STORY

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79B00752A000300070001-8.pdf
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>>536067156
>>536067393
i dont think he knows Pluto is a pseudonym for Hades..
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>>536061044
>probably a waste of time desu as the astronomical data doesnt look too good.
>the Ben Davidson scenario or the Diehold foundation/Adam Eve Story scenario are massively underestimating.
WELL CRAP
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>>536067510
the date of Jesus' birth has never been ascertained (and it never will be).
The Christian feast commemorating the event had originally shifted all over the calendar.
Somewhere around 354 A.D., Latin Christians decided on December 25th since this had been the date on which the feast of Mithra, whose religion had become the main competitor of the Christian one, and which had been amalgamated with that of Sol Invictus, was held.
This raised dissent among the Christian community of other countries, especially among the Syrians and Armenians, who continued to celebrate the birth of Jesus on whatever day their own tradition had dictated.
In A.D. 440, however, the Fathers of the Christian Church decided to revert to December 25th as the official date since this was also the day of the winter solstice which had for long been a day of celebration.
This was also the time during which the feast of Saturn, known as the Saturnalia, was celebrated.
Originating as a New Year festival, the Saturnalia was held on December 17th, but was gradually extended to seven days up to December 23rd.
The Greek, and original, version of the Roman "Saturnalia", however, was the Greek "Kronia", likewise dedicated to Kronos/Saturn, and this used to be held on December 25th.
Presents had also been freely exchanged during the festivities of the Saturnalia, which custom then coincided with that held in honor of Saint Nicholas.
We can then see how the two traditions were merged into one - the giving of presents by Saint Nicholas on the eve of December 6th and the giving of presents by, or in honor of, Saturn anywhere from December 17th to December 25th. In the minds of the common people, Saint Nicholas was thus merged with Saturn, "the old man who lives at the north pole," and the myth of Santa Claus was inadvertently born.
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>>536067809
Take it up with penguin reference. I didn’t write it.

Penguin dictionary of symbols second edition p827
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>>536048413
fpbp
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>>536067833
What you take seriously isn’t important to me.
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>>536062966
>Mars is the planet of youthful masculinity. It is not tethered to the sun
Is this why daddy Elon want's to go there so bad? Do you think Mars is safer than Earth from a micronova?
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>>536067393
Hope you're being facetious
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Jews worship saturn, chuds worship Jupiter, the highest and greatest.
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>>536067674
its not my problem that you dont seem to understand what lightning is
>pajeet
ironic considering you seem to believe in magical planet gods
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>>536048935
There are chronos/saturn (harvest) and chronos/aion (time)
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>>536067906
its because rome was already conquered by jews prior to christianity. sol invictus was just one of many deliberate diminishments of roman culture, which was actually about laying the groundwork for christianity and yahwehism.

we've done many effortthreads about the YO5E and the tranny emperor who used his elagabalus 'Sin' cult to push crypto-yahwehism
https://youtu.be/LPBmAel_M80?t=1h36m27s

jesus obviously never even existed btw
they couldnt even get the year right, let alone the day and month.
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>>536051178
>I, a proud Jew, confirm that I worship a planet as my God.
freak
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>>536067872
>I moved to picrel
nice, how do you like it there?
any Bigfoot sightings yet?
>>536067894
>WELL CRAP
thats an understatement for sure, even the most optimistic scenarios are basically game over in the long term as the increase in current density is just too much.
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>>536067952
people take me seriously, and as someone whose taken seriously, if im not taking you seriously, then other people also arent taking you seriously.

i think the real question is, are you trying to be taken seriously?
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>>536068022
>you seem to believe in magical planet gods
why you keep confirming that you are completely illiterate?
now gtfo brown retard, go take a shit on railtracks.
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>>536067393
That is a photograph done on a soundstage of a painted globe model with a silhouette of Pluto painted on because Masons have inferiority complexes that they remediate by tricking others to feel smug and superior. They snicker and snort to each other about how clever they are. The Jew leads them on, encouraging this personality dynamic to keep it leveraged for their Rube Goldberg machine.
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The black sun.
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>>536068113
by the time romans were around the capture event was already forgotten history. also Janus = Saturn.
>and the tranny emperor
lots of tranny shit in ancient lore, especially connected to Venus.
>jesus obviously never even existed btw
probably a cohen from the jew families anyway, just the managed controlled opposition influencer of his time.
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>>536067994
chud is jewish, i bet he does worship jewpiter

see, im doing the thing
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>>536067872
Bad move. About 12 people in the entire Western Hemisphere survive past 2029.
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>>536048317
No, they worship plain old demons. (Baals and Astartes, like in the Old Testament.)
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>>536048317
Bullish chainlink cryptocurrency
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>>536068186
okay retard and you can keep believing that lightning doesnt transfer charge because Jupiter has a magical stable layer of insulating gas which somehow traps charge at the poles
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>>536067250
The Bible refers to owls at unclean, wild spirits. Type owl into blueletterbible and it's all about wilderness and where man isn't, spirits move in
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>>536068479
>okay retard
but sukdick dipshit, you are the retard here, you are so intellectually stunted that you mistake electrical resistivity for magic.
it doesnt get more full retard than this.
now kys already.
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>>536048317
the low IQ disinfo bots will bring up regularly.
Don't fall for this stuff, kids!

>option1:jewish disinfo
(you're here!)
>option2:jews worship saturn and he's a magical planet entity or whatnot
which means you believe in jewish voodoo
>option 3:jews somehow got magical visions about Saturn, or aliens/ancient astronauts showed them space footage, whatever, then they decided to sorship the shape
which means you believe in a slightly different jewish voodoo

this is all garbage and it doesn't matter which flavor of magical thinking you pick, you're doing a zionism.
Come home, White man, reject jews, judeo-christianity and MAGA tier disinfo.
Our White race Sieg Heil!
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>>536068946
>retard mad he cant explain his conspiracy that he cares about despite some random planets electric charge having no effect on his life
you really are something arent you? what kinda voltage difference are we talking about btw, how amazing are those magical insulating gasses?
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>>536069005
you lost this ten posts ago. stop trying to play scientist and go back to the shitting street.
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>>536068189

To be honest sometimes I feel like I know what's going on but then I realize I am fucking retarded and if there are enough really smart people who are actively in secret trying to fuck me over they will probably win the mental game.

Fuck am i supposed to do bro
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>>536069262
whats the problem why cant you answer? dont you wanna share this amazing theory? just tell me the voltages were talking about here and what gas is acting as an insulator
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>>536069314
its pointless, like trying to teach a monkey how to drive a car only that the monkey has much better chances at succeeding.
you know just keep pretending it’s all "magic". Its much easier than actually learning something.
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>>536069419
sure you keep telling yourself that lmao, what about for all the other truth seekers in this thread? cant even do it for them?
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GERMAN MICRO NOVA ANON

what do you think of this???

https://rumble.com/v7a1jqs-predictive-maps-and-the-new-world-order.html
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>>536069467
I already did, lurkers arent as retarded as you are.
now kys.



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