I can't believe Xi fell for the green scam too.
>>536048375>xi fell for the renewables jewF
>>536048582>>536048757>green>renewableYou're behind. Thinktanks around the world are reclassifying solar as a national security issue. Too many countries are too reliant on political hotspots for their frequent energy imports (lifeblood)
>>536048582>>536048757Seething saudis behind these posts>NOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BUY MY OIL OR I WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE GOING RATE FOR SHITTING IN THE MOUTH OF AN ONLYFANS GIRL THIS IS ANUDDA SHOALALALALALALALALALAH
>>536048375too late for these guys though
>do nothing>win
>>536049580>>536049669I see the shills already have their counter-shill points ready to go.
>>536048375memes aside how many of these things would china need to power everything. like if they truly hit the renewable endgame and replace fossil fuels how much land would be needed for it
>>536049580this
Ill be the one \aughing when it costs more to fill up a boat tank or jet than it does to buy one
>>536048757Oy vey! Yes, tie your existence to the middle east like a good goy.
>>536048375China wins again
>>536049870India saw riots and SEA almost did, having to ration supplies. If the hormuzzy stays unpenetrated, they'd be finished.Meanwhile, look up "Pakistan solar hormuz" and you'll find a dozen NGO's (rulers of the world) from around the world writing about how them having a gorillion m's sq of chinkshit panels saved them from blowing up too.
>>536049889this is a question chatGPT is built for dont ask /pol/
>>536048757"Green energy" should be rebranded as sandnigger independent energy. Nobody gives two fuck about the green part, even China, they built this shit so they have sources of power that isn't tied to whether if the sandniggers is having a melty that week.
>>536049580China is also investing in actual energy security in Thorium. Luckily for once so are we.https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/its-an-efficient-machine-to-destroy-nuclear-waste-nuclear-future-powered-by-thorium-beckons/4019310.article
Just 2 more years and the oil will be oil free!
>>536050162in fact the evil ass WEF even warned these chuds to get solar. they occupy this wierd super-position between thinking the WEF runs the world and laughing like they werent a serious threat
>>536049889Probably too much. Their big empty desert is at the same latitude as france, which isn't known for being sunny. I doubt they'd have enough.
>>536048375>Iran war is accelerating the transitionsame
>>536050304based was just thinking about thorium salt reactions BASEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>536050389On that note, it's totally retarded that only 8% of Australia's energy is solar
China with all its manufacturing will not be able to rely on solar energy or wind power, the maths doesn't math. You need base load reliable power that can easily be scaled up when demand is high and scaled down when demand is low. Only coal, hydro or nuclear can provide that, not the erratic and unrelianle power delivery that solar and wind provides.China is doing this because they have to, they got btfo as they lost Venezuela and I don't think the golf countries are going to push their lock with the Americans at this stage. They have Russia oil but they still need other sources just in case Russia gets btfo
>>536048375China is Communist which means Conservatives don't exist there. This is why they can simply plough ahead with new forms of energy without Jew worshipping big oil shills and Capitalist paedophiles holding them back.
>>536050557Australia is full of uranium and coal, doesn't make sense to go with stupid solar that provides unreliable and erratic energy when you can use the coal and the uranium to provide stable base load power
>>536050955Boomers rule the world, and they aren't the type of people to plant a tree whose shade they'll never know.Considering that it takes nuclear plants 2+ decades to break even, you'll never see that transition until the boomers are overthrown.Meanwhile, solar is a great SUPPLEMENTARY option for AUSTRALIA. Only retards wants Scandinavians and Canadians buying solar panels. This is where the bulk of the unreliability claims come from. I doubt you'll find people in Darwin regretting those investments.And you can't go wrong with having more supplements to the power grid, especially when you can just throw panels on any roof.The ONLY way this could backfire is if a silicon blight broke out, or a nuclear winter blotted out the sun entirely.
>>536048757He didn't fall for anything. China loves building megaprojects to appear as competent only to abandon them to rot and collapse
>>536049580and think tanks are always right (and that's a good thing)!
>>536048375welcome to america in 2007
>>536048375I used to work in wind energy. I know this story is total bullshit bc China. Has been “building triple the amount of wind farms that the US has” and yet those wind farms only produce 50% the electricity that US wind farms generate. Why? Because over half of the windmills aren’t actually generating electricity. They don’t even have the electricity generating components in their gear heads.
>>536053201I called them rulers of the world disparagingly. Nevertheless, energy issues are so base that they cut through a good chunk of ideology. Nobody wants to be short a dozen terawatts >>536053393Because mongolia hogs their wind
"Green Energy" in the West was only being done by scamming jews who had zero intention of making shit that actually works. It was just a grift to get money out of taxpayers while keeping the West dependent on the Middle East, which means the West has to keep sucking mutilated jew penis.China invests in actually freeing themselves of the jew and their oil wars. That's why China is winning and will save the Earth from Judeo-Zionist enshittification.
>>536054046Specifically, energy crises. They serve as wake-up calls.
>>536050165So it's doable
>China has made REVOLUTIONARY ADVANCES in this or that!>Source: The Chinese Government
>>536048375your nation is playing slingshot with their switch, be thankful for the data centers
>>536048757I know why you are mad and it's understandable to be seething but there's not much you can do about it... Better just move on.
Hah, idiots. Meanwhile here we're ROLLING COAL and cough COUGH COUGH HACK HACK WHEEEZE COUGHH COUGH haha take that libs this poison in my lungs and in my water and food is owning the communists hahaHAHA COUGH COUGH *dies to own the libs*
>>536054415No. It wouldn't be worthwhile to set up solar panels in the tibetan mountains 1500 miles away from where people live
>>536048582>>536048757The problem with renewable energy is the efficiency and the fact that we can't save enough energy compared to the conventional coil machines. It's still quite beta but as of now it's pretty good for house consumption. Western companies still wanted to sell it as a replacement and that's the scam. >>536053096This is pretty much the only reasonable answer in this thread.
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>>536048375https://youtube.com/shorts/vianOPeghIA
>>536048375>I KNEEL BEFORE THE CHINESE OF FREE INFINITE ENERGYChina has every cutting edge product, but instead of selling them so they can be evaluated in the free market we simply get articles and news stories.Fascinating.Ship or shut the fuck up chinkbugs
>>536048375China has huge swaths of land that don’t get hail, monsoons and they don’t have tornadoes in general. The US on the other hand has real winters, hail, hurricanes on the coast and tornadoes in the middle where it is flattest. Solar makes no sense here for that reason alone besides all the other dumb reasons (like it doesn’t generate enough per acre to be worth it, requires clearing what should be farm or forest land etc). TLDR it might make sense there but is still an ugly eyesore, it makes zero sense for much of the US where we have actual storms, often, that could wipe out these solar “farms” in a few minutes. don’t get me started on how stupid the current wind tech is. ugly, costs more to build, maintain and no real plan when they are done, than they ever generate in their life cycle. and the birds, we actually try to preserve life here, we don’t have campaigns to kill birds historically here (ok whoops the passenger pigeon our bad).
>>536055097>Instead of selling themWhy are you niggers so retarded?The biggest gripe that most countries have with china has nothing to do with human rights or taiwan, but the fact that they're simply too good at making things, and sell so damn much that their existing domestic industries crumble without protection, and any new ventures into industries occupied by china are plain sisyphean.
>>536048582>>536048757Chinas literally pouring everything into all energy not just green shit. They're #1 in coal and other shit too, it's across the board all hands on deck ramping every energy output to 12. Meanwhile niggers over here can't lay a track down without getting drowned in bureaucratic bs
>>536050187sanest burger itt
>>536056401We can actually thank china for Africa's population not being 3 billion. Specifically, their gripe is that, unlike every other industrialized country in history, china didn't abandon the low-tier sectors like clothing, "pulling up the ladder" on Africa, who would've needed those opportunities to climb out of hunter-(mineral)gathering.It's not an exaggeration to say they make and sell everything short of GPU's
>>536053393Why does China do this so much? Like the same thing happens with their chink-shit construction of ghost city buildings. High rises for miles yet no one lives in the fucking things and they are built so poorly they literally crumble in your hands. This has to be how they keep 1.4 billion people employed and not sucking on the teets of government. China is one giant bizarre puzzle. I actually wonder if they even have 1.4 billion people too. I kinda think that number is bullshit.
>>536048582energy diversity is key>nuclear plants>coal plants>diesel plants>solar plantsyou want all of these so if one form is affected the rest can compensate
>>536055329There is this interesting configuration of solar called Smartflower https://smartflower.com/Has a collapsable flower like array of solar panels. It closes up at night and during bad weather. Has built in sun tracking too via motorized base. If nothing else it's a step up versus panels for miles and could perhaps lead others to build upward instead of outward to make the land footprint smaller.Anyhow, interesting idea.
>>536048757>we should keep burning a dwindling fuel source instead of tapping into endless free energy shit out by the sunok cletus
>>536057251fossil fuel is irrelevantnuclear provides base load, wind/solar can help with base load if you can do pumped hyrdo storage, hydro can work if you aren't fucking up a river too much by putting a dam on it
>>536057016It doesn't matter. 1.4 billion or 700 million, china is smarter than most others. They keep people busy, and whether they're accruing debt doesn't matter, they understand capital better than 95% of capitalists today. In 20 years they're going to have lots of debt, but they'll also have a pipeline of people who have homes available to start families and industries ready to grow and train the next generation to build the future. I don't even look at china as communist anymore, I see them as an empire attempting to conquer the future, no different from any other empire china's seen before. Capital isn't just money, it's the resources available to build the future, and if the rest of the world gives you their knowledge for free and you use it to build factories and universities, then this is free capital for your own exploitation. The chinese empire understands this.
>>536048757All the solar panels are made in China, by Chinese slave labor, using Chinese materials. Literally no jews involved. For the 1000th time, solar panels are the most non jewish form of power on the globe. What jews do you think profit form solar panels anon?
>>536048375Whats the lifespan on a Chinese solar panel? Will they all end up in the ocean in 20 years?
>>536057727yeah thats true without taxes this is all more than streamlined, really any country without taxes is set up to leap frog off white cucks
>>536057251You're a retard. This isn't a stock market.If your country has coal/gas/oil+refineries/uranium, you could theoretically burn it until you run out. The materials and tools needed to build the plants themselves are all of the sort that if you lacked them, it was already over for you.Solar applies to this somewhat, because silver is rare, but IIRC, it's a small amount, and some newer designs don't use it. The rest of the panel is made of sand.Of course it isn't this simple in real life, but every "but" you're thinking of has nothing to do with chance, but planning, and long-term thinking. The only things up to chance are whether or not your own government is malicious/suicidal and tries to sabotage itself. The only case like this has been Germany, but they're too mindbroken to use as a good example.>>536057380If you can't immediately clock this as an art project by a european "man" who wears skinny jeans and rides a dutch bike, then you don't belong here.
>>536057727Honestly there's a lot of truth here. If solar panels are cheap and last a long time(which they do), then it removes the corporate jew from taking money every month. You get paid to add electricity to the power lines. The things holding solar back in the US are laws preventing people from building off-grid homes, potential maintenance costs, and the upfront charges. It also doesn't make sense in every part of the US, but places with mild weather and high irradiation are ideal.
>m-muh greenThe only REAL independent energy source is nuclear. Solar and wind are absolute memes.
>>536058476It's simpler than that. What is the jew but the middleman? See how his talmud arbitrated the dissemenation of the old Hebrew religion, see how money has a tendency to pass through his hands before reaching it's destination, see how new thought is filtered through his institutions before disseminating to the rulers and the common men.Now, compare that to how our energy is first revealed by our miners, then passed through the refines, then burnt, unleashing it's dormant energy that then... passes through a heat exchanger and into the water, changing its form, which churns our magnets before, finally, being delivered as a stream of readily useable charge.Now take the solar panel, how Aryan, Ajaxian, is his understanding of the sun as sovereign in our solar system? He knows any master between him and it is illegitimate, and produces his charge simply upon contact.
>>536059218In short, the jew sits between the heart and the mind. The solar panel (organ of the mind) is fueled directly by the heart.
>>53605772935 years+, they will outlive you
>>536061367lol
there's nothing green about solar energy
>>536048375all That shit can't power a single household
>>536048375Ahhhh... Congrats commie! I'm sure Xi loves you.
>>536059218It's really no surprise that a 19 year old Invented the photovoltaic cell. The eternal boomer can't help but pay deference to his feet.
>>536054910Guys if you look at this anons picrel would you think that putting solar panels all over Germany was a good idea or a bad idea?
