Redpill me on both sides of the Ukraine war
One side is led by a nationalist jew who is trying to save his country and Europe the other is led by a judeo-bolshevik, turd worldist shabbos goy controlled by chabadnik trying to destroy Europe and the West in general
>>536061162>Redpill me on both sides of the Ukraine war
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>>536061162Ukraine is engaged in self defense. Russia is engaged in murdering their neighbors.
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>>536061992>>536061162This is the best redpill you'll probably get. But they're slavs, a lesser human compared to whites.
>>536062041Nah, I just think of this "war" as a failed attempt to genocide Goyim. Well, they did the Ukrainian Goyim, but their plan to start WW3 and murder the European Goyim doesn't seem to be panning out.
>>536062041>Ukraine is engaged in self defense.If someone comes into your house and takes over your house and then forces you at gunpoint to defend this house against someone else trying to take over, are you still defending "your" house at this point?Ukraine is occupied and controlled by jews since the 2014 Maidan coup. Ukrainians don't have a country of their own, so self defense doesn't apply. They would have to first liberate their country from jewish control.
>>536062133>a lesser human compared to whites.you jews have been pushing this D&C hard.
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>>536062171Sounds like a civil problem, not something a bunch of asians should invade them over.Its like wanting to be conquered by China because trump is cucked to Jews.
>>536061162> 2014> Ukraine elects a pro-Russia leader> the CIA doesn't like that> overthrows elected government in a coup (fuck the eu)> installs Zelensky> starts outlawing the Russian language in Ukraine and conducting pogroms on ethnic Russians in the country> tries to deny Russia access to military base in Crimea> Russia takes Crimea> people in the mostly Russian Eastern region of Ukraine vote to become apart of the Russian state> Ukraine nullifies the vote> starts trying to set up NATO weapons system on Russia's border> Vladimir Putin has been warning them against this since 1991> tells the CIA and Ukraine is an act of war> fuck Russia> Russia invades and takes over the regions that voted to become a part of Russia in a special military operation> defends those regions to this day> Ukraine takes exception to this and keeps the war goingWestern media calls it a "full scale invasion" and tells you that Russia wants to conquer Ukraine and reconstitute the Soviet Union in an effort to present Ukraine and the West as the good guys. Now, they are telling you that Vladimir Putin wants to invade Europe.
>>536062821Ukraine overthrew their own leader BECAUSE he was pro Russian. It's their right. And then they democratically elected zelensky
>>536062944Ukraine elected a pro-Russian leader in a certified democratic election, that no one disputes. The CIA didn't overthrew that government in a textbook color revolution.
>>536063030hi zigger, how are drone attacks?
>>536063567Ask the people in Kiev how that's working out for them.
>>536063679im asking you in Moscow shithole.
>>536061162Russia=Good fighting ZOGJewkrainia=Bad is jew ZOG
>>536063929> Over 2/3 of Ukraine's pre-war energy generation capacity has been destroyed, damaged, or occupied by Russian forces. Because of targeted strikes, Ukraine relies on Ukrenergo to enforce daily hourly power outages and industrial restrictions in most regions to stabilize the grid.
>>536063929I own an encyclopedia older then that fake ass country
>>536064016Stop pretending you dont live in Moscow, zigger. Sniffing status?
Russia's unprovoked and illegal invasion of Ukraine is a direct attack on the collective Western Civilization. The battle of Ukraine will decide the fate of the free world for decades, if not centuries to come.Freedom ain't free, but for those living in the free world, Ukraine's Armed Forces has been paying most of your share.For the past years, it has been the strength, fortitude and courage of Ukrainian soldiers that defended the freedom of the collective west.If you think that this war will end by letting Russia defeat Ukraine, I remind you of the Winston Churchill quote:Appeasement is feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last.
>>536064078I've never been to Russia.
>>536064110>t.
>>536062821>> 2014>> Ukraine elects a pro-Russia leaderlol. lmao evenYanukovich was elected on strengthening the relationship with EU, retard
>>536064133but youre VPN pidor. So you claim you still live in USSR not Russia?
>>536061162jewish puppet of the biden administration is feeding his entire population of white men into the meatgrinder so the country can be repopulated with third worlders, further eroding white europe.Putin wants to reassemble greater russia.
>>536062171>If someone comes into your house and takes over your house and then forces you at gunpoint to defend this house against someone>Ukraine is occupied and controlled by jewsGod I hate rusisan shills with their brainless talking points, barking like a seal, this might be a bot. Anyone that was born in a western nation and supports russia should be deported to russia, the ocean or dropped from a helicopter.>inb4 nato expansion1!!11!kys
>>536064164You really believe every American flag is Russian don't you?
>>536061992>slavs>whiteHeh. Good one.
United States>Failed to create single earth government in league of nations>Golden age has long ended>Forced to defend it's zombie remnants IE Israel and other failed nations because it's entire existence relies on global tradeRussia>Blasted wastelands with no future or resources like Africa>Men willing to die to help others in their nation>Has no export economy other than their militarySo basically, both countries simultaneously LOSE power in the status quo AND have lots of resources for war. In this environment, humans will do lots of fighting and killing. Worse yet, I just learned it will take at least 130,000 years to create the first hentai matrix because of how slow to start interstellar mining is, so all of the souls that die in battle here are lost for all that time, and we won't be able to see them again for 150,000 years.
>>536064161All Ukrainians do is lie and coke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_GShyGv3ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_GShyGv3o
>>536064270Yes. Americans dont shill other countries for free. Sniff status?
>>536064332So by your logic any American supporting ukraine would be a shill to right?
>>536064164even worse, he is most likely really a US cattle for israel
>>536064110>unprovokedkek
>be russia>lose soft power game in ukraine because no one wants to be under putin's boot>chimp out>invade ukraine>have to beg for a peace treaty now that they're getting drone striked every day
>>536064356Yes. They shill Ukraine to kill mongloid russians.
>>536062264Dimitri I said go out and buy 3 sim cards, not The Sims 3!
Russia attacked the Netherlands. That's all there is to it.
>>536061576What is this video supposed to show? The Ukrainians hate you more than the Americans do you stupid cretin. The US covertly aiding Ukraine is a natural outcome of the way your government behaved.
>>536061162jewish meatgrinder for goyim
>>536064400Fair point I have gotten the impression most of the west would let every Ukrainian die as long as it would weaken russia mist think tanks here predicted russia would be gone by the late 90s and used to stop the destruction of our economy but they were wrong and now this proxy war is a hail Mary to make this happen
>>536062041That's like the opposite of the truth. The US has been trying to militarily encircle Russia and/or economically destroy it since the 90s. The US/NATO/EU have no business in Ukraine, that is part of Russia and the US overthrew it in 2014 specifically to cause the current conflict. How? By putting NATO bases and cruise missile bases on Russia's border so they can hold a nuclear gun to Russia's head. They already put such things in Poland and Romania. Also threatening the Black Sea. They did all this while lying, violating their agreements and ignoring every warning Russia gave, even when they said it would lead to war (Georgia 2008), so they did it again. Why? So they can mire Russia in a war and spin the narrative that "Russia attacked Ukraine" to retards and the majority ignorant population who don't know or have to the time to understand the issue.
>>536064400>Only shills believe in self defense
>>536062727>Sounds like a civil problem, not something a bunch of asians should invade them over.The Eastern Ukrainians (ethnic Russians) wanted no part of the Maidan regime and do not consent to living under it. They requested Russia's assistance to save them from being murdered by it.
>>536063567>>536063929>>536064078>>536064161>>536064164>>536064332>>536064366>>536064425>>536064432pic related.
>>536064480Correct, there is good money in killing russians, the gas is getting cheaper due to Russians needed money due to labor getting expensive. There is literally no money to be made killing ukrainians.
>>536064244>>536064310You’re the second smartest pidorussian I’ve seen today lmao, picrelAre you brown, perchance?
>>536062944>democratically elected zelensky
>>536064542That's also a civil issue. I'm not begging china to invade just because I'm sick of the government.
>>536064110>the free world
>>536064577>Voting is Jewish. If you vote you support a jewocracy.
>>536064542The actual truth is that all of Ukraine are ethnic Russians. The history of Ukraine is complicated and unlike other countries so it's like incomprehensible to outsiders or people who don't know. But like most things it's actually quite simple, more than it appears.
>>536064262>God I hate rusisan shills with their brainless talking points, barking like a seal, this might be a bot. Anyone that was born in a western nation and supports russia should be deported to russia, the ocean or dropped from a helicopter.Either bring it, or STFU.You won't do shit.
>>536064289>>slavs>>white>Heh. Good one.Your "people" are brown, kike.
>>536064630The inbred monogloid moscovites always hated and admired the kazakhs because they had free will.
>>536064394Is this not actually a blatant admission that the US/West/whatever was seeking to dominate and control Ukraine? A nation thousands of miles away on Russia's doorstep? So would that not make the US the aggressor, destabilizing nations near Russia and posing security threats? Because that's what happened.
>>536064592>That's also a civil issue.
>>536064549Russia has almost an endless supply of men though ukriane does not although ukriane does have an extremely productive war industry they have a bottleneck in production russia has a bottleneck on their endless biomasshorde so it's really just down to who can destabilize the other government first or this war will last like 10-15 years now that asymmetry is widespread in the front warfare will be slowed down significantly
>>536064618>>Voting is Jewish. If you vote you support a jewocracy.This, but unironically.
Its too long to write in one post listen to the late Stephan Cohen interview on Ukraine from 2006. Russia has a red line that cannot be crossed and it was Ukraine. The west knew this and armed Ukraine and funded their national first government. Ukraine is a byproduct of the Soviet collapse so this is their actual war of independence or so they think from Russia. In reality Russia didn't want to invade Ukraine but had to do so to prevent its Nato westward drift.
russia's ruled by chabad kikesit's an exercise in liquidating both country's populations, not a sincere effort to win a war by either side
>>536061162Both are the most perfidious slavs in existence.We always had problems with both.So it's a sort of battle of poisonous snakes.Except one attacked first out of greed.
>>536061162>1pbtid>memeflag
>>536064716>Russia has endless supply of men.Common misconception, 50 % of their population is AIDS infected or mutant freaks of nature unfit for combat. Also their fertility is lower than EU.
>>536061162Psychotic retards on a derpskrieg against an incredibly boring professional force that is fighting with both hands tied behind its back out of a mistaken fear of western outcry.
>>536064700To them being an underhanded kike isn't aggression that's just their nature
>>536061681>nationalist jew>fighting for Whitesishygddt
Argument #1: Ukraine is stuck in a tug of war between two superpowers, NATO and Russia who both want control of the area for geopolitical purposes and for the natural resources Ukraine offers.Argument #2: The war is staged and both sides are controlled by jews in order to genocide Slavs in Eastern Europe so that the region can be transformed into New Khazaria, a secondary homeland for Jews.Take your pick.
>>536063567>>536062944You cultists are fucking laughable. I’m thinking a few more beers and going to uhg to watch you seethe
>>536064640>>536062821genuinely, these people are poison to the nation. If a civil conflict ever broke out, you would be the first the die or hide.
>>536064164There it is, the natofag cult mantra. You will kill yourself when the Ukraine loses. That isnt a threat, or a suggestion, it’s a prediction more reliable than the direction of the sunrise
>>536064515That would imply Russia has shills here despite Putin banning this site
>>536064771Dial 8 to cope russia has the numbers by a huge margin they had over triple the manpower not Inculding foreign soldiers
>>536064700Russia would love to do the same against the US but they do not have the means. They are weak and puny. Besides your point is stupid because the Ukrainians naturally hate Russia so they were the ones demanding US aid not the other way around.
>>536064736That's correct but there's more to it. Ignoring the history of Ukraine (it did not really exist until the language and identity was more or less made up in the late 1800s under the influence of Austria-Hungary and Poland to prevent western Ukraine from returning to the Russian Empire) Ukraine was never really anti-Russian, never really fanatical or anything. It was actually not even political. The US funded Ukrainian nationalist extremism which is a very minority thing and based in western Ukraine. So like Banderism, the Svoboda party in Ukraine. These are the most deluded and identity confused Ukrainians, going back to the 90s. All of this was specifically to divide the region.This article is towards what you're saying. This guy was Ukraine's first russophobic president, who coincidentally was a central banker in the 90s in Ukraine (when the country was financially raped). He married a former US State Department employee who worked for Reagan and Bush Sr, the US Treasury Dept. and other shit. While he was president! They are still married, her name is Katerina Chumachenko. She even illegally maintained US citizenship as first lady of Ukraine for 2 years. back then, dual citizenship was illegal in Ukraine. Backed by Soros too in a color revolution. He went on to be Ukraine's most unpopular president. Picrel says it all. It's actually an extremely shocking article I cannot believe was ever published.
>>536064904 2 more weeks till Kiev taken.
>>536064871>the people who don’t want to support a kike in a war we don’t benefit from are the bad guys Eat shit, you leftist filth. What do we gain from nato? And give me hard examples, not buzzwords and platitudes
>>536064849Argument 1, NATO is the one completely controlled by kikes.
>>536064983Why take Kiev? (Thank you for spelling it correctly) The ukraine has no hope of winning this. And when they lose, you will kill yourself. The same thing happened in Jonestown when that cult had to face reality. It’s not even a prediction beyond “predicting” what day follows Monday
>>5360650642 more weeks until ukrainian dogs stop feasting on ziggers corpses.
>>536064969These are insane statements. If that was true I would expect Russia to have gone to war in 2014. Russia wants peace and stability.Even going back to the Cuban Missile Crisis, do you know who started that? America. By putting nuclear missiles in Turkey. Then the US broke it's promises to Gorbachev, it expanded NATO 3 times. Russia tolerated the first, it warned about war after the Baltics, then war happened when Georgia got color revolution'd and NATO expansion was planned for it. So what did the US do then? They did it again with Ukraine. There is 1 side pushing for war.
>>536061162Slavs butchering each other like hogs, There is not much more to say than that.
>>536065097>If that was true I would expect Russia to have gone to war in 2014Putin miscalculated because he's an idiot. This is admitted even by most pro-zigger milbloggers that he made countless mistakes regarding Ukraine. Russia is an imperialist country and their people love this pride and glory shit but their incompetent leaders can't live up to the hype. >Cold war started with the US putting its foot in TurkeyIt doesn't matter who and what started. It was naturally going to happen that there would be a soft conflict between the two superpowers. Good thing I'm not a commie shill.
>>536065108Slavics are the Master Race. High IQ plus Primal killer drive, deadliest combo on Earth
>>536065091>he thinks goreposting makes his pointI know what you’re going to do from this point forward, but just for gits and shiggles, how does the ukraine win this war?
>>536065230>not a commie shillNope, just shilling for kikes. Which leaves little difference
>>536065246How did USSR lose to sand niggers in Afganistan?
>>536065230>Russia is an imperialist countryEvidenced by the US traveling right to the border of Russia and overthrowing a former part of Russia. And also trying encircle Russia with missile and military bases. The reason Russia will not return the Kiril Islands or whatever the fuck that shit was (Which was a sparsely populated island Japan lost in WW2, a war in which they attacked the USSR) because the US will put a missile base on it. So insanityposting basically.
>>536065294>he does what I expectedIs it a sin for you to admit the ukraine can’t win? Come on, tell me how they win. You’ll change the subject, but I won’t.This kind of behavior is what makes me certain you will commit suicide when the ukraine loses. You cannot accept reality, and when you’re left with no other alternative…
>>536065392Im not changing the subject, I told you how ziggers will die.
>>536064992>never said anything remotely leftistYes, I want to keep the strongest alliance the world has ever seen, easy trade relations with the second biggest market in the world, tech and pharma benefits, not to mention the whole of fucking europe/can, etc. There is problems with nato you could address its not perfect, but just throwing it away because dear leader told you to think that isnt a reason, you fucking sheep.>kike in a war we don’t benefit from are the bad guys Let me guess you also believe the 2020 election was stolen? Lmao you defend pedophiles
>>536062171People like you just make discourse impossible lmao, you have been so mindraped by this idea that jews are behind everything that you are now unable to analyze any sort of geopolitical situation
>>536065372There are always going to be soft power games in geopolitics. Boohoo get over it you zigger turdie. Chimping out and invading another country because you suck at soft power is a whole other story.
>>536065475Why should a country let you abuse them with no repercussions?
>>536065427>not changing the subject>just changing the subjectYou never said how Russia would lose. You accused someone who disagreed with your cult of being a Russian on a VPN, I called you out on it and pointed out the inevitable end of your cult, you posted goreporn, and I asked you how the ukraine wins. That’s it. You can follow the postIDs. Keep seething for me natofag. It’s all you can do, and this is good warmup for fucking with your containment thread
>>536065531meds shizo xD
Russia wants Ukraine to remain in their sphere of influence. Russia wants this to keep their position in the world order secure.Ukraine (and for the most part, Ukrainians) want to get out of the Russian sphere of influence. They want this because Ukraine is a corrupt shit hole, and moving away from Russia is generally seen as a good way to fix this.The west wants Ukraine to align itself away from Russia and to the west. They want this because it would weaken Russia and strengthen the west.There is a lot of nuance to all of this, but this is what it all boils down too.Personally, I think it should be up to the Ukrainians to decide what way should their country go, and most of them want it to strengthen it's ties with the west.
>>536065446>you defend pedophilesAnd that’s all I needed to see, you’re a leftist supporting an old topic-of-the-week while actively pretending you didn’t care about Epstein until Trump was in office again. Bring back the backwater flag, at least he believes what he says
Total NATO Europe Destruction.
>>536065525Russia was also abusing Ukraine trying to get their soft power grip but it was just too incompetent to do so. They didn't offer any benefits to the people and naturally society wanted change. Only a brown heartless mongrel such as yourself could justify killing all those innocent souls.
>>536065564Oh trust me, if I was in need of psychiatric meds I’d think the ukraine can win when off them.
>>536064849I'll take none, that's an understanding at the level of boomers playing chess in the park
>>5360656232 more weeks.
>>536065565The more Ukraine was separated from Russia, the more it got destroyed though. Part of the thing was that Urkaine was a playground of corruption, child trafficking, money laundering, biolabs shit and all sorts of shit for the West. Hunter Biden, Mitt Romney etc. all had relatives working for a Ukrainian energy company? How does that work? Ukraine being corrupt serves the interests of said corrupt politicians. They are making it more and more corrupt. Compare Belarus to Ukraine.
>>536065688Yes yes, two more weeks and the ukraine will win this war. Now tell me, how does that happen?
>>536065712you must go back in thread.>>536065294
>>536065602Innocent? You are pretty much saying "and one day for no reason at all" that just isn't the case
>>536065775Which is before I called you out for your cult posting >>536064164you have no idea how much fun you are
>>536065097Lmao literally everything you said is just a straight up lie, stop reading RT you fucking loser
>>536065825how did USSR lose Afganistan?
>>536065848Is it?
>>536065848The Cuban Missile Crisis was started by missile bases in Turkey. This is something the U.S. government admits. How are you natofags this fucking stupid? Even religious fundamentalists are more rational
>>536065855Remember this post >>536065246 ? The one I posted immediately after >>536065064 ?You doing exactly what I predicted you would, which makes the suicide prediction more of a prophecy
>>536065945so you dont know?
>>536065955No, I do. Same way I know why the ukraine won’t win this war. Do you?
>>536061162>20% of ISrael = Russians (Jackson-Vanik Soviets)>The Sino-Soviet Split was bullshit, and Kissinger was a traitor (Goleniewski)>Soviet Defectors warned of strategic kayfabe of Operation Trust on a geostrategic scale, among many other predictions>Ukraine was supposed to be re-folded into the "Union" that Shoigu referred to at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier speech 2022, in a matter of weeks >First British Civil War ties to Crimea (Varangian Guard, then decamp to Venice)>Gorbachev concentrated Xeon in Ukraine after he failed to talk Reagan out of Star Wars missile defense (lasers, and semiconductors, and nukes precursor)Ukraine + Iran was supposed to anchor US forces per the Chinese 4 War Strategy, but it has been backfiring on Moscow-Beijing, AND Davos-City of London. Bibi allowing October 7th at the least convenient Ukrainan Counteroffensive to cutoff the coastal road time was gigantic perfidy (probably certain things were allowed to not be intercepted in the 12 Day War as punishment). Everyone involved is a son of a bitch, but letting Europe render itself energy and food insecure wasn never tolerable. Gorbachev asked Clinton to his face to "give us Europe!" quite literally. Rhodes scholar communist still couldn't do it. And despite having every reason to let Europinkos suffer consequences, America is neither leaving NATO, nor the Middle East-- because that's what Redshields want for the Levant to become the Belt Buckle of the Belt & Road.
>>536065064>The ukraine has no hope of winning this.Neither does Russia.They're already falling apart economically and have to censor the internet to cope with the growing social risks.Meanwhile Ukraine is starting to grind them down with the drone spam, they just got approved funding for another year.
>>536066253Alright then, same question posed: how does the ukraine win? Because “no one wins” is just a loser’s cope
>>536066225so how did russians lose?
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>>536066225I dont know, my small nafo brain cant understand how did russians lose Afganistan. Can you explain?
>>536066334Same way the ukraine lost. Isn’t it obvious?Don’t forget, I predicted you will kill yourself when the ukraine loses, and you will not disappoint me.
>>536064871>If a civil conflict ever broke outYou won't do shit, pussy. Keyboard warrior faggot.
>>536066430no, im too stupid, its not obvious too me. Care to explain, dear political proffesor?
>>536066379The same way the Ukraine lost this war. And if you disagree, you can go back to the question I asked you before you started doing the natofag seethe’n’scramble. At least you realized the goreporn doesn’t help you
>>536066430try to focus on Afganistan and not Ukraine. drink some coffee, take your time, im waiting your analysis on the Afganistan war 10 year long war failure.
>>536062171>Ukraine is occupied and controlled by jews since the 2014 Maidan coupit has been controlled by jews since its inception you retard
>>536066493how? try to relate to Afganistan war.
>>536066461>im too stupidAt least you’re honest
>>536062036>>536062064>quoting jewish agitprop
>>536065454>jews are behind everythingNot literally everything, but the entire Ukrainian government is jewish. That's an objective fact. Ukrainians don't control their own country.
>>536061162Ukraine has been transformed into a military base funded and armed by us and eu to destroy russia Kinda the gist of it
>>536062821>2014>Ukraine elects a pro-Russia leaderYou are an idiot. Please leave.
>>536065689Just because you started hearing about corruption in Ukraine when it started to involve your country doesn't mean that there wasn't any before. High level corruption was just as present back then, except it involved Ukrainians or Russians, and not Americas. Except, just as about every post soviet country in the 90s and early 2000s, you also had much more of low level corruption in the police, judicial system, etc which were all intertwined with organized crime groups.I won't pretend that Ukraine is doing much better (corruption wise) than it was doing before. But now they actually seem to be doing something about it, considering that you hear about the current corruption by the way of the people involved being arrested - even people close to the current administration. It is a slow and painful process, especially with Ukraines unfortunate position between the West and the Russia. But it is necessary. Otherwise they will just end up like the Belarusian s you mention. You think Belarus isn't corrupt as shit? You just don't hear about it because there is no one to go after the corrupt fucks. Compare Belarus to Poland, or Estonia, or literally any other post soviet country that joined EU and told Russia to fuck itself.
>>536066518so you just dont know how did USSR lose in Afganistan?
>>536066497>>536066510Alright, I’ve think I’ve used you for all your worth. Time to go harass the real suicide cult in uhg. Don’t forget, you ran away from my question first, because you know the ukraine has lost
>>536066572so how did USSR ubermench lose?
>>536061162kekbergstein
>>536061162The Russians just wanted to get along with the EuroJews, they wanted the Americans to stop threatening them with NATO expansion and "defensive" missile systems near their borders. They wanted Jewkraine to stop the senseless killing of the Donbas civilians and for them to respect Russian culture and language.The Ukrainians did not give a fuck. After the Maidan color revolution & already existing Neonazi Banderist ideology, they wanted to separate from anything Russian via violent means. Basically, they wanted their cake and eat it too, instead of just having a clean break and joining the EU without antagonization and then through a slippery slope process, joining NATO and showing the middle finger to Russia. Both sides are being used by the west and the east. Remember that when 2 fight, the 3rd (or 4th) profits. So while Russians, Ukrainians, and Europeans are exhausting their resources on this bullshit, China and the US are thriving. Victoria Nuland is happy that she's been semi-successful.
>>536062727Sounds nothing like wanting to be invaded by China. Disingenuous.
>>536066563How long did the USSR occupy them 9 years right can ukraine hold out that long?
>>536066557>election denialAh yes, it’s only legit if the CIA says it’s legit
>>536066642no it cant hold out anymore, send in the next wave.
Basically Ukraine becomes nationalistic, Putin freaks out. During his freak out he is given Crimea and Donbas for free basically. No serious consequences They are just not annexed in the UN. 8 years later Putin invades on grounds that leave 0 room for negotiations. Now they are in a mutual suicide pact.
>>536066642No, they absolutely can’t. But the nato cultist cannot admit the fundamental difference between the conflicts nor the inevitable outcome of the war he made his personality. I hope he responds to you
>>536061162Ukraine wants to pivot to the west/eu and become another Poland. Russia wants Ukraine to stay in its political orbit as it clings to what's left of the old ussr power structure.
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>>536066718you are 120% correct, next meatwave now please.
>>536066689I'm pretty sure russia can recruit enough 3rd world shit skins and drunks to keep going the economy is going to be their biggest struggle
>>536066320It doesn't.It just manages to survive as a state.And it gets some sort of EU package so that their people will think it was worth not falling under Russian control.And then the whole shit kinda freezes with a de facto armistice, but probably both sides will keep arming up, expecting a resumption of hostilities.Then Russia will struggle to get its economic shit together.And I suppose the West will start investing in Ukraine, because they still have some cheaper workforce overall. And a lot of land and resources. They have to get their money back somehow. The country will be economically colonised.
>>536066625Begging a nuclear power to invade you because you don't want to be under the current regime? Sounds pretty close to me
>>536061162both sides are slavs and slavs are stubborn bastards
>>536066766>drunks and niggers.sounds like a quality workforce.
>>536066718Ukraine also shares over 1,000 mile land border with Russia so it's not as difficult to launch attacks
>>536066758You’ve conceded, move on
>>536066843Afganistan war, lost why? stop conceding.
>>536066808That's almost every military right now just look at the military here
>>536066872doesnt matter, its drones all the way.
>>536066861Invading a country over 2,000 miles away is different then invading a country you share a massive land border with
>>536066897So then your argument against them doesn't matter since they use drones
>>536066924USSR shared a border with Afganistan, you retard xD
>>536066782That’s a very long way of saying the ukraine ceases to exist as a state. But at least you can admit it unlike >>536066758How much of the Ukraine’s male population remains? How many women are still in the country? I don’t think even your prediction is accurate, it’s too optimistic.
>>536066937the thing about Russia, we can drone their industry, but the retards cant drone EU xD
>>5360611622 Jews1 picture
>>536061992This kek
>>536066937You are expecting a rational response from a religious natofag. It cannot give you a real answer because doing so would admit that the ukraine has lost
>>536066949Russia was the central power of the USSR using Vasile states as spring boards for attacks over stretched them they aren't spread as thin this time this is plain as day
>>536066969Russia gets drones from China they aren't producing their own
>>536067042lol cope retard. Ukraine is easier to supply from EU too than Afganistan.
>>536067064retard, Russia is not allowed to use then in EU or you get fucked. meanwhile we can use Ukraine proxy to drone Ziggeria back to bronze age.
It's extremely unlikely that Russia can make any meaningful further territory gains in this war. Denying that outs you as a shill or delusional retard. That doesn't mean Ukraine is going to get any of their territory back though.
>>536066563The same way that Alexander the Great and the US lost.
>>536066961Why would it cease to exist? They lose about 4 counties, so they have to change their constitution to declare those with some sort of special status. Otherwise they can't join the EU. They need settled borders.But beside that, everything about their statality remains intact, the rest of their borders are in the same place, they still have a government, laws etc.>How much of the Ukraine’s male population remains?That's probably only going to be known a few years after the war freezes.I estimate their population will continue to drop until they hit around 20 million in a decade or two. Then stabilise there.It all depends on if Russia stays economically weakened to not afford restarting the war. Then they can just settle in that state.Desperate Ukraine women could find men in nearby countries too, it's not like they'll say no. It happens all the time after a war ends.And I suppose at some point, if there's enough EU investment in Ukraine, some of the Ukrops who fled to the West will return, especially if shit gets dire in France, UK, Sweden and they'll have niggers and arabs fighting on the streets. Better not get stabbed and live in their poorer shithole.
>>536067130US dont matter because youre even more subhuman than russians xD
>>536067090You have done nothing but cope the whole thread you have nothing left
>>536067109Article 5s a bitch
>>536066961Doom arguments = truth social posts. Its just to feel better. It would have more sting during peace. Especially these days every country stares at demographic collapse and both Ukraine and Russia mirror shit, penal recruits, imported workers and using motorcycles for example.
>>536067151but youre coping about Ukraine gaining ground and nuking russian industry.
>>536064289>mfw being Caucasian is not enough to be white anymoret-thanks, poljews..
>>536061162Ez
Kalergi wants to have a word
Oy vey
One jewish hand
Washes the other
>>536067173So ukraine has gained its 2014 borders?
>>536067173>nuking russian industrySuch as?
>>536067349has russia gained any ground in 4 years of war?>inb4 atrrizion zigger meatwave warfare.
How does this work?jeets and jews have a discord and when they get overwhelmed in a thread they disperse?
>>536067349Yeah, 3 or 4 times now
>>536067403In the ball Park of 75,000 square kilometers
>>536067349In two weeks they will
>>5360675012 more weeks until Russia gains ground again.
>>536067090Except when the source of that money, the U.S., stops paying. Then what?
>>536067547you mean EU? US doesnt pay anything.
>>536067109>russia can’t use foreign drones in the ukraineWait, you think the Ukes produce their own drones?I thought you were a retard before
>>536067529Yep
>>536067583why is Russia getting droned and EU not?
>>536067142If the border holds where Russia wants it, and there’s no reason it won’t, the Ukraine has no valuable land left. There is no male population left, certainly not of starting-a-family age. The endless vanning videos prove that. The women will also never return, because life in the Ukraine even before the war pales to life in the west. Why marry a German and go back after this?>there will be more shitskins in the westWho do you think will replace the dead uke men?
>>536067643Didn't they just accuse Russia of bombing romania and they didn't do shit
>>536067692housing apartment is not industry. When will Moscow plants stop smooking?
>>536067578>the U.S. doesn’t fund natoAlright, you win this one. You’re clearly trolling on the level that aussies did back before 2014.
>>536067727It's worse it's a civilian target and no action damn what bitches
>>536067643>the eu is not getting droned>>536067727>the eu is getting droned, but not like thatKek a fucking roo
>>536067791you got to act cautious when dealing with wild apes.
>>536067692The president kinda walked it back by saying the drone most likely got intercepted by ukrainian ad and diverted to our commieblock. Truthfully, neither side (and by that i mean EU/US and Russia) don't want the conflict to expand past Russia/Ukraine due to the obvious reasons, which is why shit like drones in Poland / the Baltics / Finland / Romania will get at best a couple of strong lettered twitter posts then proceed into getting memoryholed.
>>536067838>>536067794
>>536067794>grasping at straws to cure the humiliation about getting raped in Afganistan war.kek.
>>536061162It's all been said many times over. Motivations from both sides are clear at this point.Ukraine:- West funding- Nationalistic aspirations- Secession from Russian market- House NATO militaryRussia:- Sphere of influence - Encirclement/isolation threat- Nuclear threat- Perceived debt/ownershipUkraine is US plaything in funded independence hysteria, that's very popular in past few decades of political warfare.Russia is play civ videogame with human lives.There's no right choice here. Both sides are hostile and malicious.
>>536067794>grasping at straws to cure the humiliation about getting raped in Afganistan war.pathetic.
>>536067817So then you were wrong they can bomb the EU because they are to scared of how aggressive Russians are the don't do diplomatic solutions that's why they invaded ukraine
>>536067794This is a poojeet free threadGo back to your kosher Ukraine threads faggot
>>536067853Hey wait, is the eu getting droned or not? I want to watch you dodge the question again
>>536061992it's just thisreminder blackrock bought a ton of ukraine's land once the war started, and even said they don't want soldiers buried on their land
>>536067898Hahahaha you actually typed it out twice >>536067853
>>536067921Did you lose Afganistan war or not? Stop dodging the question.
>>536067939yeah 4chan captcha sperged out my bad.
>>536067921Well EU civilizations are getting droned by russia but they can't do anything also russia can't bomb the EU
>>536067912It is laughable to watch you natofags seethe. Want to call me a Russian on a VPN like the lolcow did?
>>536067940>>536067965So Russia is droning the eu. >>536067794
>>536061162No problemRussia is ran by kikesUkraine is also ran by kikesWar is good for businessHonestly letting holols be a human shield for slav niggers to die enmass is pretty cool and based until the part where the american taxpayer is asked to, once again, bail out Europeans from an external threat that was growing right in plain sight. Much like yids and muzzies, or pigs and nigs, I hope both sides lose. I just don’t want to pay for it.
>>536067968*civilians* fuck phonefagging and drinking
>>536063030>no one disputes.Are you retarded or just a straight up liar? It was MASSIVELY disputed. People took to the streets over it claiming that the election was illegitimate.
>>536068002Ukraine is droning EU actually you retard, russians are too pussy to do admit it xD
>>536068056Ah, so the ukraine is droning the eu because they’re losing and want more support. They aren’t going to get it, but that’s a new cope.
we will let ukraine use our airspace to bomb your towns and there is nothing you bitch boy ziggers can do about it.
>>536068112No bitch boy, it was a stray drone from bombing Russia you zigger VPN retard xD
>>536068133Same thing that happened in lativa pretty much?
>>536068159happened what? Ukrainian drone fell in open field? Shame it didnt kill some ziggers.
>>536068133Oh, so the Ukraine managed to fuck up droning so bad they hit an ally. I remember a Uke missile doing the same thing in Poland due west, which is not towards Russia. You are going to kill yourself when the ukraine loses, and this thread is just you raging against the inevitable I’m glad to see you at this point
>>536068196but we dont care as long as ziggers die from ukraine drones.
>>536068120Except drone you
>>536068196but we dont care as long as ziggers die from Ukraine drones xDI know its sad tha you can die from an ukraine drone any second zigger, buts its just the way it goes.
>>536068217>we don’t care if we target our alliesIs this the approach you’re going with? Why aren’t you in the uaf yourself if you’re this delusional?
>>536061681>nationalist jew who is trying to save his country"his" country lmao. good shabbos goy
>>536068217>>536068236He doubled posted againUnhinged Seething
>>536068254Nobody here cares xD we are happy russians are dying.
>>536068281post outlet VPN pidor xD
>>536068184Hit a oil Refineriy non-operational Though they had government resignation over it was a huge deal no one wanted to blame shitty AI they try to blame russia for ukraines drone hitting them it was retarded as fuck
>>536068120Weird flex but okay.
>>536068315how does it feel you can die from Ukraine drone any second?
>>536068288This is priceless, a uke draft dodger talking this much shit while not doing shit about it. I hope they don’t kill you, I hope the Russians make you a mascot
>>536068352zigger draft dodger calling cettle black?
>>536067974Quit acting like a jeet and I won’t call you one Davika
>>536068352Im sitting at my remote comfy job dronning ziggers <3
>>536068397>cettleIt’s “kettle” you worthless vassalLearn to speak the language of your betters, or we’ll send you back to the trenches, like zelenskike wants us to
>>536068437>us.so youre a slav after all xD
>>536068418Makes sense, hiding behind nato lines. Otherwise you end up like picrel. Recognize anyone?
>>536068437Leave the jamboy aloneEnglish is his 3rd language
>>536068410Ah, so now I’m a jeet. That’s a new one, and totally not one you had to get clearance to use
>>536068462no because im not a subhuman slav xD
>>536068483No the memeflag you’re arguing with is
>>536061992/thread
>>536068397>cettle How much have you had to drink anon?
>>536068486The flag says otherwise. And the thread proves it. The ukraine has lost this war, and all you can do is seethe
>>536068528why did Russia lose Afganistan war, anon?
>>536068548Afganistan war, why did you lose it zigger?
>>536068563jews
>>536068582so Russia was tricked by jews to attack Ukraine and get raped?
>>536068563asymmetrical warfare,western funding,economic trouble and being stuck there for 9 years now now why can't you spell kettle you been drinking or are you just stupid?
>>536068619This is how I know you’re a ShiteaterYou’re conflating two events that were 40+ years apart but you only know them as words in a book or a website
>>536068644I can I just dont care, i love triggering trannies like you xD
>>536068670
>>536068665Russia lost like a bitch then and now.
>>536068670>no ur triggeredThe lolcow’s cope
>>536061162Both bad.
>>536068707Afdganistan war, why did the ziggers got buckbroken?
>>536068670>I was just pretending to be stupid
>>536068705>russia lostThey won in the ukraine though?
>>536066558Then how do you rationalize the existence of Belarus? The corruption in Ukraine is one part the fault of Ukraine, and like maybe 4 parts the fault of the West.Ever since the fall of the USSR George Soros was expanding his empire in eastern Europe and the US gave intentionally bad economic advice to newly capitalist Russia and post Soviet states, like "economic shock therapy" and other shit which centralized all the resources in the hands of oligarchs. They then sold everything. The West came in and made it about 100X worse and entrenched themselves in eastern Europe. Ukraine in the USSR had 52 million people, was the most developed republic and an industrial and agricultural powerhouse with lots of Soviet industry in it. Now it's the poorest country in Europe, poorer than Moldova, a tiny landlocked Romanian country. Ukraine had ports and shit too and inherited the worlds largest shipping company (Black Sea Shipping Co.) which now only has 30 employees. That's not normal. It speaks for itself. The West raped Ukraine.
>>536068724Afganistan war, why did you lose it zigger? try to focus.
>>536068718Irrelevant, they won in the ukraine
>>5360687272 more weeks until Kiev falls.
>>536068737For 1980s reasons. They won in the ukraine
>>536068737I told you guys he was a poojeetLook at him work the copedex to a T
>>536068737I already answered >>536068644Why are you seething?
>>536068767when will Kiev surrenders?
>>536068756Who cares about Kiev? Russia won the war in the Ukraine
>>536061162Russia is a dying federation run by remnants of the communist party that are trying to keep hold of assets and power in their mafia. Ukraine is a poor country that was roped into the shithole communist world. Many countries after ussr collapse escaped the nightmare but Ukraine and Belarus were unable and both remained full of corruption etc. Ukraine however wanted to change that causing a massive chimp out by the communist mafia in russia. However russia is no where near as strong as it used to be and is a heavily demoralized society suffering from generations of kleptokracy and corruption.
>>536068781Doesn’t matter, the ukraine already lost to Russia
>>536068771soooooo when will Ukraine surrenders and you ziggers can have May 9th gay parade again?
>>536068784when can you have May 9th vicotry gayparade again?
>>536068803Your asking me to predict the future for you?
>>536068835yes. When will you win and can celebare May 9th again?
>>536068819Any may 9th for a few years now, and every May 9th in the future. Russia beat the ukraine, all your seething just proves it
>>536068851Already won. Which is why you won’t go back to the ukraine
>>536068050That's the election from 2004, the Soros Orange Revolution.
>>536068803>surrenders>>536068819>when can you have May 9th vicotry gayparade again?Your translator is breaking davika
>>536068851>yes I'm telling you to predict the future
>>536068863but youre seething that you can to get Zelensky permission to have gayparade. Doesnt sound like winning.
>>536068851>>536068863Its obvious russia lost the war when they failed to destroy Ukraine in 2022. They are old communists who dont have time anymore.. I would be surprised if russia exists by 2050.
>>536068888checked. Try to predict, when do you think Ukraine will lose? 2 more weeks?
>>536068889>that you can to getKek
>>536067685>If the border holds where Russia wants it,Well Russia does not appear to be able to clinch it. Their gains are starting to stagnate or even go in reverse in some areas. Something is happening since they lost access to Starlink and Telegram was banned.>The endless vanning videos prove that.Idk there are maybe like a few tens of them. From a population of millions. Hard to say how representative that is. I would think that these videos are used by chink and vatnik propaganda to project the impression that this is some kind of massive operation happening everywhere. But if that was the case then those guys running on streets in search of troops could have been way more useful on the frontline. Makes no sense to assume they're keeping such a large number of able-bodied men chasing other men on the street.>Why marry a German and go back after this?Cheaper land. The German will push her to move to Ukraine because he won't afford retiring in Germany. He could buy land and a house for much cheaper in Ukraine. And they'll have Kaufland there too. On his money they could live a lot better than in Germany.>Who do you think will replace the dead uke men?The rest who didn't die, some that will return if they're not afraid of being forced to the front and some Poles, Romanians, whatever is available nearby. Spermbanks too maybe, no idea.
>>536068912The ukraine has already lost. I beg you to prove me wrong, but you simply can’t
>>536068966If Ukraine lost, when are you having a victory parade?
>>536068912I think both sides have a few more years of fighting I truly believe they are both ready to fight to the last man
>>536068907>russia lostishygddt Don’t be the next lolcow
>>536068984parade when?
>>536068976Since Ukraine lost**Get lost shitfingers
>>536069016parade when?
>>536068939>a few tens of themYeah, you’re not arguing in good faith when the ukraine is asking the EU to send back military age “refugees”. >the land is cheaperIt’s already owned by BlackRock, who are you kidding?
>>536068984Of course russia lost. They failed to defeat ukraine and are now trapped in unwinnable conflict. Ukraine is still in open warfare stage and modern conflict always has insurgency stage which Russia is even losing inside of russia as infrastructure is destroyed on daily basis from within
>>536069036A parade just flew over my fucking house headed to you
>>536069052when are you having Ukraine victory parade?
>>536068976>>536068995Whenever Russia wants. They won the war after all, and you ceded that argument
>>536069056Gentiles lost
>>536069073why are they not celebrating now then if they won already?
>>536069056You’re going to be the next lolcow.
>>536069072Ukraines*Fuck you bloody saar
>>536069093parade when? Smooking accidents stop when?
>>536069089May 9th is a ways away. Not like it matters, the Ukraine already lost
>>536069093Putin and the rest of russia communist mafia generation are all old men as well with 0 successors lined up nevermind the fact that young Russians are avoiding participation completely.
>>536069127so 1 more year till victory ? xDDDDDDDD
>>536069072>Ukraine victory day paradeInb4 >I meant to fuck up
>>536065475So Ukraine and lesser nations are just pawns in a game instigated by the US? Pretty cynical attitude towards human life. This sort of shit hurts the US too and drives countries away form our system.
>>536069129>no successorsYeah, you said the same thing in the 1990s
>>536069052>is asking the EU to send back military age “refugees”.Of course they are asking. It's been known for years Ukraine will have a shortage of troops. They are there so it makes sense they want to get whatever conscripts they can find because anything can make a difference now. Both sides are locked in, hoping to be the last one standing. Any factor matters now.>It’s already owned by BlackRock, who are you kidding?I haven't seen any detailed report on that. Some piece of news saying BR bought some shit somewhere doesn't mean the whole country is owned. There's a difference between reality and hyperbole.It wouldn't be the best investment for BR to do this either. They can make a lot more money elsewhere. It's not like Ukrainian land will suddenly be worth like Monaco or Ivory Coast. It's still an undeveloped country.
>>536069153No, victory is already here. When does the ukraine celebrate winning?
>>536069226>Ivory CoastI meant French Riviera (Côte d'Azur)
>>536069238but you said next year May 9th will be the one for sure. You think the russian fortune will turn?
>>5360692241990s is the same as today the communiat mafia. Communist gangsters have run russia since the revolution over 100 years ago. Yeltsin and Putin were both active members of communist party and politicians and intelligence
>>536069268>will turnOf course not, how can the Ukes win?
>>536069292why there was no may 9th parade this year if ukraine is losing?
>>536069306>losingLost. Now it’s just humiliating natofags.
>>536069306But you said there was but putting had to ask permission which was it he had one with permission or didn't have one at all?
>>536069339>won.1 more year till victory parade?
>>536069379>>536069370
>>536069469If you won, when will new zigger meat webs stop coming in?
>>536069512Did they have a parade with permission or did they not have one at all? You have said two different things so far
>>536069512>newThat’s 3 years old. Try again, loser
>>536069557Kek you enjoy watching your neighbours killing themselves?
