What is this country. Refugees come in the millions and get free money, no proof of work or language ability. They get everything handed to them by lawyers and the government. Meanwhile, trying to get into the country to be with my SPOUSE is the most bullshit-ridden thing that I question Germany as a country I want to go to at all. Searching for info and I need to pass language test, history test, and have steady income and employment info at the ready. Not to mention all kinds of other BS. What is this? Do they not want families together? What the actual fuck. Might just have to go to a neighboring country "lose" my passport and become a refugee.
>>536062481it's normal to spend thousands on a lawyer when immigrating to another country, sorry you didn't know that
>>536062481"germany" is about as a nation as okraina or "finland" or the baltic estates as "belgium" and so on.
>>536062481americans shouldnt be allowed to enter at all, you still owe us billions in reparations
>>536062481Why do you want to move to Germany when it's full of dangerous Muslims now and you can't even own guns to shoot them when they inevitably break into your house?
>>536062481Not to mention that it's even harder for germans to immigrate to the US even though we built your nation
Fat migger mutt complaining about another country actually having strict immigration lawsO I am laffin
>>536062481You're white. They don't just let white people immigrate TO GERMANY
>>536062481Ever thought that maybe they are doing you a favor by not letting you in? You do realize SEA exists? Why have Stockholm Syndrome for kiked countries?>>536062703>>536062911This.
>>536062481Its not nation but economy zone. Germany current government isn't even real(nor legal).
>>536062481Yes, congratulations. The transatlantic think tanks which every politician here is part of worked very hard to create this situation.
>>536062481Ditto for friends of mine with fiancees from the USA and Australia - the Aussie actually got detaine at one point.
>>536062481> trying to get into the country to be with my SPOUSE is the most bullshit-ridden thing that I question Germany as a country I want to go to at all.Why are you grabbing a falling knife?The political establishment has optimized itself and therefore the entire system to catering to migrants, hence social security recipients with dubious status. They are their new voting base, whereas ppl like you with a career and a plan probably wouldn't vote for them. Look up what Bärbel Bas just recently said about brown Germans who need colorful migrants. They are very certain of their cause and its current trajectory. It's not going to get any better, before the worst of the worst has happened.Seriously, don't come here. If anything try Austria or Switzerland if you're looking for German culture & heritage stuff. Or ditch Europe and look into South America. They have successfuly preserved pockets with German culture.
>>536062481goddamit anon, how often do we have to go through this?it has been known for about 10 years that you can't just immigrate to Germany as a law-abiding, hard-working and tax-paying White person from another Western country like the US.If you want to immigrate to Germany you will have to grow a beard, use lots of brown spray-tan on your skin, put on a Turban, and show up at the German border to either Poland or Austria with no documents repeating "Asyl! Asyl! Money! Money! Asyl! Asyl!" over and over again for about 7-8 minutes until they let you in, set you up with a free 2-bedroom apartment paid for by the state, hook you up with a brand new iPhone as welcoming gift and give you a monthly allowance of 563€ with no time limit and without ever asking for anything in return.Alternatively to "Asyl! Asyl! Money! Money! Asyl! Asyl!", a good old "Derka derka, mohamed jihad" will also work for the German border control officials, see here for tutorialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Yy8z2_K3wWHY DO YOU KEEP ASKING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHEN IT HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR 10 YEARS THIS IS HOW THIS WORKS
>>536065124>The political establishment has optimized itself and therefore the entire system to catering to migrants, hence social security recipients with dubious status.>They are their new voting base, whereas ppl like you with a career and a plan probably wouldn't vote for them.Have you read Hans-Hermann Hoppe's book on democracy by any chance? It articulates the point you're making in economic terms extremely thoroughly.
>>536062481>Might just have to go to a neighboring country "lose" my passport and become a refugee.Just like in USA with "free healthcare", the Uber-libs that man the local County Health and insist on giving any Wetback a "pass" will suddenly become top Detectives when confronted with a White person claiming to be poor or not having full ID.
>>536065408> Have you read Hans-Hermann Hoppe's book on democracy by any chance?No, but it's so bad that we have reached the point where the topic of importing new voters is now openly discussed.They usually reference a passage of a Bertolt Brecht poem, because he was a communist and therefore can't just be dismissed. "Would it not in that caseBe simpler for the governmentTo dissolve the peopleAnd elect another?"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_L%C3%B6sung
>>536062481>"lose" my passport and become a refugee.>>536065338>show up at the German border to either Poland or Austria with no documentsdoing this as a white is a crime on holocaust level, people who did this as a joke went to prison longer than mass rapists... duh.
>>536065675>No, but it's so bad that we have reached the point where the topic of importing new voters is now openly discussed.You might want to read it. It really is an excellent book. It's available for free on the Mises Institute website, as is the audiobook. The link to buy it is just for paper copies.https://mises.org/library/book/democracy-god-failed>They usually reference a passage of a Bertolt Brecht poem, because he was a communist and therefore can't just be dismissed.It truly is disgusting how the left has managed to completely hijack all dissent in the west, and discredit any criticism of the state that isn't a mask for calls to further expand the power of the state.
I feel like I've been blackpilled. Migrant crime is rampant. In my city, the only dirty streets and the only major crime (murder) happening is within the migrant block. The only store where theft checks are done is the one near the migrant block. Is AfD truly the only party to vote for to fix this? I've seen that they vote against social contributions, but say that it should only be against migrants, but it would affect our fellow citizens as well, no?I'm not sure what to vote on in the next election, because the CDU/SPD/FDP don't seem to give a rat's ass about fixing the issue.
>>536065811That's why you need to really put effort into your refugee costume, the fake beard needs to be ON POINT, and so does the turban. Don't go over the top with the brown spray-tan either, it should be Paki- or Arab- levels of brown, not full Indian Dravidian dark brown. Also if you have blue/green eyes, then brown contact lenses are recommended. And you really need to practice your fake arab accent, this is really important: The R in "derka derka mohame jihad" needs to be properly rolled to sound authentic. Lastly, make sure to speak in an overly loud and dramatic voices, and have the body language and vivid gesturing to accompany it.
>>536065813> It really is an excellent book. It's available for free on the Mises Institute websiteThanks, I will read it after Hakim Bey's Temporary Autonomous Zone, whjich is perhaps relevant as well right now.> discredit any criticism of the state that isn't a mask for calls to further expand the power of the state.Indeed. The consensus among dissident Germans on what is going on is that the Eastern German State Security has won the Cold War. When they shut down the anti-communist counter espionage the sleepers in Western institutions had free reign. It took them pretty much one generation to take over the entire system. Now they're trying to make sure it can never be undone again.
>>536066076>Is AfD truly the only party to vote for to fix this?No, the APPD ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNEy5em5ugAThe only party that still has the interest of the people at heart>JUGENDLICHE BRAUCHEN RENTE! KEINE ARBEITSPLÄTZE!
>>536066076>why can't we have socialism, but less internationalbecause of that one time you went full autist
>>536066230Well, yeah, I recognize thats bad, but I don't feel bad for it. I didn't do it, my parents didn't do it, their parents didn't do it, and I think even my grandparents didn't do it.No one alive did do it, yet somehow I'm supposed to carry the cross for something we're past already. Can't we just recognise the faults of what happened, learn from it, and not repeat it? The NSDAP, despite its name, wasn't even socialist; they were nationalist for sure, but also deeply authoritarian. I'd just want the social democratic state we already have, just not for everyone, except the people that live here, but I feel like there's no party reflecting that.
>>536065338Use this 1 simple trick the JobCenter doesn't want you to know!
>>536062481asylum is only for brown people.>checks flagmaybe you can apply for asylum. just tell them you must flee america because drumpf is prosectuing you for your liberal world views on gay people and trans activists.
>>536066562>wasn't even socialist; they were deeply authoritarianthat doesn't mean anything. even anarchists can be authoritarian, like when they use furce to destroy popular hierarchies that most people would like to keep undestroyed.AFD suggests making the "welfare magnet" a little less powerful. I know you'd like to keep it and try to make sure it serves germans first, but germans have proven to be ... inelegant in applying that principle. so maybe AFD has a point. you're not going to stop funding charitable causes for your people just because the government steps back, right?
Truly over if Europeans have no right to there homeland, but illegal migrants from Africa do. What clown world.
its not the real truth but its also not a lie, so this could work and would bring in you in real quick if you really wanted it.also list ICE and how youre afraid and wake up at nights in sweat that they come for you and put you in camps because your polticial views are detrimental to drumpfs.pull somesthing out of your fingers.
im sure political asylum has its own section to apply. then you get whole different documentation.
they wait for political asylum seekers but you have to be smart about it. im not sure if you can do it because youre a mutt ;Dnot gonna do the stuff for you. this is on you.
>>536067104I guess that would be fair, plus closer border control and making and more strictly adhering to asylum the way it should be, would possibly heavily diminish the amount of migration we would get. Once the migration issue has been alleviated, we could go back to a more reasonable system, where we can help our political neighbours, without doing so at the cost of our citizens, by sharing an excess, rather than diminishing our systems or making our own priorities second to those of others.
id go on some gubmint site, probably deutsches auswärtiges amt and asyl-amt. download documentation. print out fill out.section where you can write down your own comments, always in every document. you put in what i said.bam you can go to germany in 2 weeks. if not tough luck, would be the easiest. id take it, drumpf suvks so thats always good.this is sticking it to drumpf and it gets supported 100%. off course it can not work by chance. you have to be smart about it first, for better chance.i bet my bottom euro the asylum documentation doesnt need money scannings. if not tough luck. good luck.
>>536067573>by sharing an excess, rather than diminishing our systemsthis helped me understand your perspective better, thanks.here, "shutting off the welfare magnet" had been talked about for decades. I never thought about how cynical and defeatist it sounds, like immigration is an unstoppable force and the only answer is to stop caring about each other.
you can take other examples out of your own life why you get prosecuted politically. we dont take this as a joke. this is very serious.
Nigga FUCK Germany and your dirty "spouse"
>>536062481why not just have your spouse come here, there's german enclaves in several states, and they can deny the holocaust all they want
>>536062481wtf i love russia now
>>536066076> I'm not sure what to vote on in the next election, because the CDU/SPD/FDP don't seem to give a rat's ass about fixing the issue.Yeah, it's bad. But the truly sad news you're still bluepilled, if you really believe politics is there to solve your problems and not its own (=retaining/expanding power). Or are you trolling?>>536066562> I'd just want the social democratic state we already haveWhy do you still want that? Sozis are the embodiment of the meme "yes, but slower". At best they're a movement which keeps regressing to the mean by squeezing everything into a rule, regulation or it's forced out of the overton window. Just look at Scandinavian politics. It's as gay and retarted (=feminized) as it can get.Picrel shows where we're headed: Italian sweets have now Arabic as default language.
>>536067740Yeah, it is rather grim. Most parties stand for the same thing and won't address the issue. The extreme on the left wants to make the issue even worse. The extreme on the right says they want to fix the issue, but we don't know if they will or at what cost. Reform in the UK said they would be anti-migration, and they weren't.>>536068078> if you really believe politics is there to solve your problemsAnd what do you reckon the alternative is? Shoot up a mosque like all the other autistic twinks and achieve nothing, or give the left more fodder to point at why going against them should be seen as bad?
>>536069252>And what do you reckon the alternative is?At this point all that's left to do is sit back and watch as things fall apart badly enough until even the average Michel calls for drastic change. Which is only a matter of time the way things are going. What happens then, no one knows. Order out of chaos as they say, but what kind of order will emerge from the chaos that will soon befall Germany and all of Western Europe? No one knows...Until then, your best bet is probably to just sit back and enjoy the show
>>536069507Unfortunately, but true. For some reason the German normie will endure literally any austerity/hardship as long as the economy is at least "okay". The deindistrialization of Germant because of jewkraine is depressing, but the economy tanking is probably the greatest gift you could give to Germans in the long-term.
>>536069252>And what do you reckon the alternative is? Politics is dead. They locked in the entire system and it will crash and burn. You have to adjust yourself and become autonomous & self-sufficient. This means in the first place financially and in regards to your environment. Build yourself a niche where you are protected from gvt intrusion while giving them as little as possible.> Shoot up a mosque like all the other autistic twinks and achieve nothing, or give the left more fodder to point at why going against them should be seen as bad?It's now about playing the long game. 90% of migrants are fully dependend on handouts and are very incompetent & trapped in their 15 minute cities. They barely ever get out of there and have no idea how things really look & work. They can't do much more than petty crime and are essentially like a hord of zombies. You have to survive the first wave and then beat them with system. Long term prospect for migrants is therefore negative. Urban areas have low birth rate, Islamism or not. It's going to take a generation, but they are going to end up contracting again. Not to speak of the male surplus which make them gharstly, but leads them into a bottleneck. Drugs and lousy food does the rest. Migrants have a much lower life expectancy and many have cheated on their birth date. They're going to have a very short life. The entire mass migration is essentially a trap, because handouts are heavily taxed and go fully into consumption, whereas the truly expensive part is the pension system with most dying too young to get anything out.Germans on the other hand will start dominating rural areas, which classically have a much higher birthrate. It'll take a little longer, but eventually the red pilled birthrate will lead to a fundamental shift in attitudes. In medieval times city walls were to protect citizens. Future will be city walls protect those who live outside of it.
>>536062481The US has millions of illegals on welfare, section 8 housing, and EBT.
>>536062481Germany is run by communists/bolshevists that want to destroy Germany with mass migration. They have also implemented a sort of caste system to achieve their goal. Low IQ peoples with brown skin are first class, Whites and Eastern Asians are second class and ethnic Germans are third class.
>>536062481That's to prevent marriage citizenship scams. Other migrants have to do everything you're doing. The only difference is that they're present in the country and working on it while you sit on your ass in the USA.
>>536069507>What happens thenbrazil if you're lucky, else zimbabwethis has happened many many times since the bronze age, it's not a mystery
>>536069939based and circumvallationpilledstart with paris and everyone will understand
>>536062481>trying to get into the country to be with my SPOUSE is the most bullshit-ridden thingLose the passport and claim to be a refugee from... some brown country. India seems common.
>>536062481My dad’s family came to the US in 1912 and 1908. Germany pretty much told me to fuck off while Merkelstein let in over a million shitskins
>>536071304Why do you want to come to this shithole? We are literally being prepared to fight against Russia in a few years.You saved your life.
>>536062797>>536062922I respect the Germans who moved to the U.S. post war.
>>536071061> circumvallationpilledPretty much this. There are several walls that are emerging right now:- physical/logistical by optimizing public transport while neglecting and regulating wider transportation- financial by keeping them financially alive (+some tittytainment) but not enough to leave- mental by giving them all they need for short term thinking in their immediate environment while removing all incentives for thinking beyond the next slot machineThe plebs won't even know there is a world outside their respective banlieue.> start with paris and everyone will understandIndeed. Paris is France's grand capital shithole, while most of the rest of the country is surprisingly conservative. Thanks to centralization with all eyes on Paris it's usually overlooked that with few exceptions France on municipal level is a lot more sound than Germany. They got fucked a whole generation before Germany (mid 90s compared to mid 2010s), but this means their reaction is 20 years ahead of Germany.
>>536062481you can just marry in any other EU country where they have less bureaucracy.
>>536062481I told you to move to Europe while you could. You should have read the potocols of the elder of Zion, it is clearly written than you won't be able to move to Europe and we won't be able to leave.
>>536062481>i HATE the country i want to move tokys, Amrigoy
>>536062481Can I also get free gibs if I come? I look like a blonde Turkish Central Asian
>>536066076>he thinks "voting" will change anythingHow "german" of you.
>>536062481Why not just bring her to the US? Stay in your nigger invested shithole
>>536062481Stay the fuck away from germany you disgusting mutt freak. You are literally the enemy, of course they don't want you there.
Let me, a kissless virgin neet who has never left his home state, tell you about your country: the thread.
>>536062481who the fuck in his right mind would like to work in germany? you pay 60% to the country you don’t give a shit about, and there is huge risk you won’t get any pension for that
Goodstay the fuck away and hopefully get raped by niggers
>>536062481your problem is that you want to play with germans in their beurocracy game, you will never win. Just surprise come and stay, break every rule, overwhelm them with unexpected outcomes. They will start to error and give up.
>>536062481fuck off we are full. You always go on about how much better the GDP is in 'murica, so just take her to your place.
