what is albanian ethnicitywhence did they came?ancient greek sources do not mention themin fact not even more modern writings from 1000 years ago, mention albaniatheir language sounds like georgian but doesnt have any of the georgian words hence it is not categorized as related to georgianin addition albanian vocalizations are not greekwords arent either
>>536067288they're just muslim slavs
>>536067309yes they are but did they magically appear 500 years ago?from Turkey?
>>536067309But their language appears to be unrelated to slavic languages. It's an Indo-European language, but it seems to belong to its own independent group separate from all the other ones.
>>536067288It says they're closer to Greek>>Gheg (north) and Tosk (south). Outside Albanian, the languages with the strongest historical and cultural ties—due to geography, history, and contact—are:Greek (especially northern Greek dialects): long border contact, shared Balkan features and many mutual loanwords.South Slavic languages (particularly Macedonian and Montenegrin/Serbian): intensive contact, shared areal features and vocabulary.Venetian/Italo-Dalmatian (historic Italian influence): strong cultural and lexical influence along the coast and in cities (Zadar/Bar/Ulcinj historically; Albanian coastal areas and diaspora).Turkish: heavy lexical and cultural influence from Ottoman rule (administration, cuisine, loanwords).Culturally, Albanians are most similar to neighboring Balkan peoples (Greeks, North Macedonians, Montenegrins/Serbs) while also having distinct national traditions, Gheg vs. Tosk cultural differences, and Ottoman-era heritage shared with other former Ottoman Balkan communities.
>>536067288They say they are old Illyrians, but all peoples who have that gene ( serbs, croats, bosniaks, montenegrinians ) are on average 1.85 tall, while Albanians are 1.75. There are also a few Illyrians among them, but they are a minority.My guess is that they are some Greeks lost in time who took some other language.
they went straight to new york bank offices
>>536067288Caucasian Muslim imported by Ottomans to destroy the local Greco-Roman population.In N. Epirus (S. Albania) people are still Orthodox and speak Romanian language.
>>536067288They are basically just pre slavic balkans. Ever asked who lived in the balkans before the slavs came in? Albanians.
>>536067372Ottomans occupy slavic lands and eventually some of them are gonna cuck out and convert to not pay the tax. Then generations later they believe it was genuine.My friend was telling me how he visited Macedonia and the hatred between 'Banians and Macedonians was more real than he expected with the mosques being tactically placed and the call to prayer feeling like psychological warfare
>>536067424Why do people copy and paste AI responses? I can get the same slop from the google search assistant.
>>536067288>whence did they came?Turk fucked a dog and the rest is history.
>>536067499but there is no historical references to albanians living in balkansi find it more likely that greeks lived everywhere in balkans until slavs replaced greeksthe only difference is bulgarians who have lived in bulgaria like for 4000 years straight
>>536067288They are not from the Caucasus, that's a Serbian nationalist meme. They're just old balkan tribal retards that stayed with their village clans up the hills where nobody gave a shit about them, civilization (Hellenic, Roman, Byzantine) was in the coastal cities and Greek colonies. When Slavs overran the Balkans, a lot of those Albanian hill tribes took the chance to expand.They're not paleo-European, their language is IE, they're just pre-slavic, although they assimilated a lot of Slavs and Greeks as well, especially under Ottoman rule.>>536067608>the only difference is bulgarians who have lived in bulgaria like for 4000 years straightNo they haven't. That land was Thracian and Greek. Slavs migrated there only 1500 years ago. And the Bulgar nomads, which took over and organized them into a state then gave their name to it before vanishing from intermixing, came even later.
>>536067608Because Albanians formed from a couple of different Illyrian etc. tribes that lived there as well as some Greek, Slav, and Vlach tribes, and then they took a new ethnic name.
>>536067608I mean they weren't literally all Albanians, but as in Albanians were part of that group and are all that's left. It's pretty obvious when you think about it, given its indo European language and not being part of any other group.> only difference is bulgarians who have lived in bulgaria like for 4000 years straightBulgarians are from the steppes. They're newer to the region than slavs.
>>536067608>albanian living in finlandif you love albanians so much why did you move away from albania?
>>536067288Oh shit, Italia is fucked just dropped!
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>>536067845uh dude I am trying to say albanians are fake, I dont get how exactly you get the idea that I love them?my theory: albanians appeared from Turkey 500-800 years ago and they have a fake language designed by Turkish overlords, language was made by throwing in georgian and kurdish features and then they put in some greek loanwords so it looks like it belongs to balkans
>>536067288Something something mountain tribes, 1st reference by Ptolemy (Albanopolis)
>>536068082>I dont get how exactly you get the idea that I love them?huge albanian immigrant population in sweden, finland.there is even /pol/ tier youtuber in sweden, forgot his name but he likes satanism and 666 and has like 500k subs, he was relevant years ago, idk about now
>>536068162Jews killed original inhabitants of the mountains, then "Albanians" take their placeAfter Ptolemy made his records, there was at least 700 year gap where nothing had been heard from Albanians until East Roman sources begin to mention them
>>536067288>>536067372>>536067419still wouldhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1779823322001067.mp4https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1779823322001067.mp4https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1779823322001067.mp4
>>536067288> Albania mystery OP I went there before, they are whiter than the UK and the USA at this pointhttps://youtu.be/bNlkMrE3SbI?t=2081>>536067488>>536067490>>536067813
>>536067288who cares, you're brown
>>536067801Wait bulgarians and thracians aren't directly related?
>>536067288>>536067372They are literally from the Caucasus, it’s the only thwory that reall makes any sense. It’s also the only non-commie/jew theory. Albanian likely was an offshoot of the same Phyrgian settlement of the east Anatian highland region, which is also how Armenia was formed. That’s why Albanian, Armenian, and Greek all sort of triangulate with eachother linguistically
>>536069350Bulgars migrated from Russia (Volga River) to the Ponto-Caspian steppe then to the Balkans and are considered turkic.
>>536067845This is a third-generation sand nigger Albanian, not a real blood Albanian
>>536069350They are.Thracia was populated by Thracians, Greeks, and Hellenized Thracians through the Hellenistic and Roman era.When the Danube border was unprotected in the 6th century, many Slavs migrated south, Byzantine authorities let them settle because the land was depopulated by plagues. The Sclaveni tribes settled in mainland Greece, the Antes tribes in Thrace. But they remained Byzantine subjects.Bulgars were Turkic nomads from the Volga that migrated southwestwards and conquered parts of Thrace. So those Slavs that would have been Hellenized and assimilated into Byzantium now got their own country under the Bulgars. The Bulgars adopted their language and Christianity and assimilated, but now all the Slavic people under them got the name "Bulgarians" despite not being Turkic.Modern Bulgarians are ~65% Thracian/Greek, 30% Slav, rest is whatever. Turkic Bulgar ancestry is basically nonexistent, maybe 1% at best.
>>536067288Pic related former NYC Mayor Eric Adams is now Albanian.
Whatever they are, I was just in Northern Macedonia and you can spot these subhumans with your eyes closed.
>>536067499So they are Illyrians?
>>536067288Egyptian mercenaries according to old dna tests I saw posted here years ago
>>536070654I dont think anyone is illyrian anymoreIllyrians were, though science doesnt want to agree with this because science is a fraud, simply a branch of italians who spoke the language spoken in italy in prehistoricLatin language arrived to Italy from India, 5000 years ago. Before that, Italians spoke their own languages which have left no written record because all of them disappeared 1000 years before Rome were createdRoman Empire is not so old, in fact it was created roughly 2000 years agoBut Italy had been settled by humans 65 000 years ago and later by another group 40 000 years ago, yet another 20 000 years ago and also 10 000 years ago bring a massively different group in thereGenetically Albanians of today should mostly resemble Kurds and Armenians, they have lived in Albania for 700 years maximum, they are not the same people who lived here 1500 years ago who were not the same who lived 3000 years ago, they have been replaced numeros times by now
>>536067288They were irrelevant tribesmen sitting in the mountains and nobody took much note of them, they did not come from Turkey or Caucasus or whatever, at least not in the recent thousands of years. Genetics prove it.
>>536067499>. Ever asked who lived in the balkans before the slavs came in? AlbaniansA group of people lived there, including Albanians, not exclusively Albanians, you cannot speak of "Illyrians" as a group because this was a group made up by ancient Greeks as an all-encompassing group for barbarian tribes north of them, that might be or might not be unrelated to each other, sometimes they were sometimes not. Many times nobody even knows, because these people were irrelevant except ones on the coast who were pirates.
>>536067288Balkanmonkeys are all the same.
>>536067801>They are not from the Caucasus, that's a Serbian nationalist meme. They're just old balkan tribal retards that stayed with their village clans up the hills where nobody gave a shit about them, civilization (Hellenic, Roman, Byzantine) was in the coastal cities and Greek colonies. When Slavs overran the Balkans, a lot of those Albanian hill tribes took the chance to expand.Accurate. Some retards mixed the fact that eastern Romans called many mountains "Alba", including one in the Caucasus.
>>536067288>ancient greek sources do not mention themalbania is ancient molossia/epirus
>>536067288Turkroach
