All he had to do is support Stop Killing Games and say sorry, my bad about the WoW thing...
>PirateSoftware>watch a stream >"Please don't pirate software."wtf?
>>536132695He only picked the name so his channel would be the top result, not kidding, he's that pathetic.
>>536132531this guy is inhabiting ferrets in his anal cavity
>>536132531What was the WoW thing?
>>536132531>narcissist doubles down on delusions and bridge burning instead of showing humility and admitting faultmany such cases, this loser dweeb deserves it
>>536132838Basically, his group played a dungeon on a Hardcore Server and they got into a difficult situation and instead of risking his character he roached out like a bitch and ran, even though he could have done stuff to help everyone and potentially save them. Several people died, which meant they lost that character permanently. All they wanted was a simple sorry from him, but he was unable to admit fault or say sorry, the drama after this spiraled so hard he got kicked out of the guild. He can't admit fault ever.
>>536133058I honestly don't care about what happened in a play session in a video game.
>>536132531That's what happens with nepotism. Autistic manchild thinks he's hot shit when he is in fact just an autistic manchild.
>>536133295>>536133058Right. So "what happened"? Nothing happened.This one guy won at a video game while other people lost. They knowingly chose to play a game mode specifically to engineer these types of situations and reward those kinds of strategies, and then when it happened they got mad about it.
Who is this person and why do you pathetically know every detail about his life?
>>536133058What dungeon was it? Nevermind, looked it up and it’s the one I thought it was, the guy who escaped a doomed dire maul run and people got angry. You know how many clips I’ve seen of people hearthing dungeons? I don’t think that guy could’ve saved anyone, they pulled 2 mobs and a boss and called to run. He was pretty much oom, he ran, and lived, if he didn’t run when he did he probably would’ve been the one who died
>>536133514he's the mr rogers Plus of youtube
>>536133058Bitching out in multiplayer games on hardcore mode is so weird to me, like why even play? It's not like when POE or Diablo start lagging to shit and you feel a cheap death around the corner so you quit out. Going down in flames is the fun part.>but my ally is a retard!So what, so are you for throwing in with them
>>536132531and stop using a fake voice.now fuck off to >>>/v/
>>536133424That wasn't the issue. The issue is this guy's entire persona is built around being the most knowledgeable most skilled most competent guy around. Even down to using a voice changer to shift his voice deeper than it actually is. He was playing the class and spec with the most tools to specifically recover and stop a wipe in progress and when the pressure was on he wilted and ran without even trying to save anyone. Then after the dust settled he lied and tried to claim everything was on cooldown and he was out of mana even though everyone saw what was going on because he was streaming the whole thing. He folded like an absolute bitch when the heat was on then refused to take any responsibility whatsoever and that plus his embarrassing position on the stopkillinggames movement turned him into a laughingstock in the gaming/streaming sphere basically overnight.
>>536133664If you’re going to talk shit on the guy, don’t let it be on a topic that’s so up for debate. What I mean by that is, did he roach, didn’t he roach? Could he have saved anyone? That’s all debatable, the truth is that the real life hat he was wearing while all this took place was silly af, ain’t no debating that. If you’re going to talk shit on the guy, talk shit on his goofy fuckin hat, I think even he’d agree with you.
I watched him for a little bit, and stopped shortly after all this drama. Personally, a retreat is a sound battle strategy, its better to run and regroup if possible then just die, I never thought he needed to apologize for it, but maybe just apologize to the people who died.>Im sorry teammates of mine died, im sorry they lost their characters, and will support them to rebuild, BUT I do not feel bad about running awayWould have done wonders, I think it was just everything else that came out about him afterwards that made me unsub.
>>536133972Its a wizards hat
>>536133972quiet, retard
>>536134026I couldn’t tell, I take back what I said then, guy is clearly a wizard. Didn’t even have to call anyone a nigger or name his Character Trump2028 and Azeroth collectively got their panties in a wad.
>>536133424Fair. I didn't mean to be a dick by asking something then saying I don't care.
I’m so glad he had a massive downfall. I can’t stand how smug and arrogant he is
>>536133972>If you’re going to talk shit on the guy, don’t let it be on a topic that’s so up for debate.His conduct itself in a vacuum was somewhat defensible. If he were a regular player in a pug a lot of people wouldn't blame him. If he were a regular player and apologized and admitted he could have done more but panicked, I don't think hardly anyone would blame him, the pull was botched in multiple ways afterall. But as I said the issue is that he was a loudmouth abrasive dipshit whose entire brand was being the best. Well when the chips were down and it was time to perform like a phenom, he performed like a totally average player. He got roasted for not living up to his own self imposed standards then refusing to admit a shred of fault in the aftermath, not for making what is otherwise a reasonable call. The other issue is as >>536133601 brings up. The entire point of streaming hardcore is to pull off crazy last second by the skin of your teeth saves or die valiantly trying. Bailing on your team and being the first one out when you have all the tools to make a difference is some truly bitchmade shit. He didn't pop a single potion or managem as he was blinking away on cooldown 60m from the nearest enemy.
>>536134287How bad is the downfall exactly? If he can still stream and live off the money he makes from it, id call it a speed bump more than a fall from grace
>>536133424You're a fucking idiot, nobody wins when you bitch out of a dungeon. He decided to force everyone to lose while he lost somewhat less.
>>536133664Damn what a small little man
>>536132531He's a mentally ill FAGGOTIt's impossible for him to take responsibility for his own actionsEverything is someone else's faultThis guy is fucking doomedImagine being his dadNo wonder he didn't take part in anything his son did, he's got a lifetime full of his bullshit to deal with already.
>>536133972Perfectly salvageable if they locked in instead of roaching. He also never even pressed his robe and mana ruby, what a joke.
>>536133295I don't care if you don't care about it. If you don't want to discuss the topic then don't post in the thread you retarded nigger monkey
>>536133601I think the idea in a hardcore mode is to try and walk the line as much as possible. Not to die, but to actually have some risk reward out on the decision of when to push and when to back out.
>>536134366Nah, everything collapsedThe entire internet is clowning on himPeople are making careers off of the back of his lack of humanityMake no mistakeThe guy is the equivalent of a gremlinA small evil ugly little creature that you would normally crush underfoot by the scoreAnd he's a FAGGOTLiterallyPretty sure he abuses those ferrets as well
>>536134508It was Dire Maul for fuck sakeNot an actual dungeon that mattersI've never once died in Dire Maul
>>536134366His viewers have plummeted HARDHe was a top streamer making millions. Now he’ll be lucky to be making the equivalent of minimum wage. You also have to consider he’s no longer growing, he’s shrinking. For streaming, that’s a death sentence for your career.
>>536134366His family is already rich, he didn't need the money. It was about attention, adulation. He wanted to be famous. Then people saw who he really was, a narcissistic prick. Just another spoiled nepo baby who thought he would be praised and his behavior outed him
>>536132531I hate his voice, it sounds horribly forced and coached, I want to send a rabid mongoose down his throat and fix that, it'll fit fine since he worked at Blizz
Another thing people found out was how much he would lie about solving puzzle games. He would stare blankly at a puzzle, then look at his phone, and suddenly out of nowhere would magically have the solution
Yeah all the hate this guy gets comes from the most obnoxious people on the planet
>>536134358I didn’t see him click blink once in his runaway but maybe he did, he even seemed to turn around at one point and considered going back, he did a battlefield assessment and stuck with his gut instinct and it really wasn’t even his instinct, someone called for run and he ran, unfortunately it went south for someone else. I’m in total agreement about hardcore wow group content, I love seeing 40 man hardcore Naxx groups, it’s impressive to me just getting a group of that many people together to take down a boss. So does no one run with him anymore?
>>536132531>support Stop Killing GamesOnly retards would support something that will hurt game development.
>>536133295>What happened. >I don’t care I hope you get flattened by a semi truck today.
>>536132531He is gay retard who lives on his own ego and doesn't even realize when to apologize.
>>536134535Yeah the faggot thing was a let down, but when it comes to those people as long as they dont constantly talk about it I can get over it>>536134582Ahh ok, if cant grow anymore then yeah, he is fucked. Wasnt he streaming fromlike 12am to 5am just because he could get North America to watch him but was able to grab third worlders or something? He was never going to get America to watch him anyway.>>536134624Yeah, guess thats true, but doesnt he actively ignore his family or something?
while i find him to be an annoying narcissist, i don't understand how people can blow it so far out of proportion. he's a classical neckbeard, which is an endangered species these days. cherish them all for nostalgia's sake.
>>536134876You don’t apologize to a rabid mob foaming at the mouth, you just don’t. Wasn’t even his fault, I did it.
Most of you behave exactly like this retard, honestly.
>>536135002When you claim you are pro and can handle anything you simply don't bitch out of raid and then act like you came on top of it all.
>>536135029who cares?
>>536132531>All he had to do is support Stop Killing Games and say sorrythe problem is he doesn't have genuine personal opinions that are palatable to intelligent people
>>536134965>i don't understand how people can blow it so far out of proportionhe continues dishonesty after being caught, that puts him into solid lolcow territory
>>536133534Nah, he's dogshit. Could've frost nova and blinked. CoC if he gets aggro and they're close. He wasted his mana. It's fine to be a dogshit player but he made himself the lowest hanging fruit
You're a retard, people would still hate this faggot regardless because he lies about everything.
>>536134730nah this guy is the most obnoxious person on the planet actually. and you're a fag
>>536135055Well lot of people did and that's why he lost his carrier and become a meme. He is so bad that even his own mods shitted on him and laughed at him publicly for how he is treating not only them but also his own viewers.
>>536134965I think it was a combination of things more than just the WoW situation. Mainly the save game thing.
>>536132795so he believes people literally type "pirate software" into google when looking for a pirated movie or video game?
>>536135123so let's lol
>>536133424no retard, mage is #1 crowd control packed class in wow and its not even close, he did exact opposite of what he should've done while simultaneuosly bragging how good he is at the game(not at all), and after he came up with worst possible decision he double downed on it, which makes him stupid.
Why do zoomers fall for obvious narcissists like this? All of his shorts he boosted in the beginning were of him sucking his own dick. And then he was caught making shit up about code caves or whatever. Pretty obvious he was misrepresenting his expertise to harvest pay piggies.
>>536132531People put up with obnoxious cunts if they are truly impressive people, all the shit he said was a lie and his game sucks. He created the hate that destroyed himself.
>>536135205fuck your SAVE GAYS meaningless shitpirating already did that before you fagshis downfall was mage fuck up alone, it became a global known meme.
>>536135338Sometimes the most pro move is deciding when to duck and run and not lose all your hard work.. you say he could’ve done all this crazy shit and single handedly saved the day by himself, I just don’t think it should be on any one person to save the day when you’re not doing solo content. He could’ve frost novad, chances are that it maybe wouldve froze 1 pack in total, that still leaves one pack not frozen and the boss and he would’ve been oom after with little to no dps. Did the rest of the group stop running? Because 2 other group members made it out, if he had circled back and fell behind the rest of the group running he would’ve been the one who died.
>>536134965The two kinds of people that hate him are guys that have dealt with malignant narcissists IRL, and guys that have never seen a malignant narcissist exposed and find his behavior shocking.
>>536133295the guy built up a discord following by teaching teens what to say in order to sound smart and well informed, and he managed to build up a huge following very fastfrom the outside it looked very groomy and cult-likewhat turned him into a lolcow is that he outed himself as a narcissistic chronic bullshitter and it also turned out that for all his talent at impressing teenage nerds he is also quite dumb
>>536132531All he had to do was frost nova
>>536133058How does he have time to play wow if he works 14 hours a day? Surely there's something he's lying about.
>>536135655>>536135338>>536133424The whole thing is just a culmination of his shitty, narcissistic personality coming into the forefront and exposing himself to the world as someone who can never accept even a modicum of responsibility.He talks mad shit about being good at the game and how "when things goes sideways and you have to step up is the best part of the game and armchair explains all of the tools he has in his kit to get out of hypothetical situations" then panics and uses none of them. That would've been ok if he had admitted that he panicked, but instead he doubles down and denies that he had any options. Then when told he doesn't have options, he triples down and says "It wasn't worth the risk for my life because I'm the guild enchanter" and when others told him that he doesn't have a single unique or rare enchant, he STILL couldn't just say "yeah my bad I should've played it better." The wipe wasn't solely his fault, but the more he denies any blame and puts it entirely on others, the less people want to associate with him.
>>536135655>all this crazy shit>basic mage gameplayLol you are probably in blues during phase 6
>>536135997>Then when told he does have optionsWhoops meant to type that. But yeah he talks mad shit about rank 1 blizzard and then never presses it and instead drops a max rank blizzard, emptying his mana bar (gem + robe up) and then cancels it before it even ticks once.
>>536132531He unironically did nothing wrong in the wow thing.First of all, anyone playing classic wow hc is a fucking retard. There is no challenge whatsoever or anything interesting going on. The whole point of that "challenge" is to play as boring as possible and take 0 risks all the time. It's the opposite of fun. I leveled a char to 60 and wanted to kill myself at how bored I was.This means that when you are doing a dungeon with other people you should always be super safe with your pulls. No zugzug from one pack to the next and get a bunch of packs together to aoe and playing it on the edge (actually having fun), no no. You pull one mob at a time, wait for the healer to drink then pull the next mob.Lastly he's a ranged dps and he's not the one in control of how these situations will play out. That's mostly on the tank (even though it was the melee dps who pulled the extra mob because he wanted to hit from behind but it's still mainly the tanks fault for positioning the mob there instead of pulling back and playing it boring and safe like you're supposed to in hc)He could have saved the situation but it's not his problem. Why should he take any risk when the other retards already fucked it all up? What are the odds they wouldn't fuck it up again and break the ice nova for no reason or some other dumb shit?He did nothing wrong. Also wow players are braindead retards and they deserve to die. If he did it on purpose it's even more based.
>>536135179Watching people strain so hard to "smear" him over the most asinine bullshit is really cringe
>>536133295Gets to show what you are as a persont. shit in online games
>>536132531>All he had to do is support Stop Killing Games and say sorryThat's exactly what someone with narcissistic personality (literally disorder) can't do. They will NEVER admit any fault and will always redirect the conversation to something else even if it is unrelated just to "prove" a point and basically accuse someone else when something is wrong. Doesn't matter how ridiculous the subject is. It's never their fault.
>>536135609Shut the fuck up you bitch baby, most people didnt care he ran away, they just annoyed he couldn't admit fault for running away. If he legit just said>Haha, yeah sorry, I got scared and ran, oops! He would have been fine.
>>536136288>He could have saved the situation but it's not his problem.Well fundamentally this is where the argument breaks out. In a vacuum, I'd say he did what he thought was best in the moment. He just looks bad because he talked big about being someone who wants to save groups in these exact scenarios and then failed to perform. When you're in a streamer guild that's supposed to be focused on working together and trusting others that's why he gets ostracized for it. He didn't even have to apologize, he just had to admit that he could've played it better. Anyway he went on that jeet gamer psychologist's show and made an even bigger fool out of himself there than anywhere else.
>>536136068My ret pally was probably the first on my server to get 2 piece tier 2 on the whole server during classic and my mage turned into my main at my guilds request, then they asked me to bring my pally back when we had 10 mages. I was in pretty much bis for the phases I played and then I quit right before AQ and didn’t come back. Thought about coming back to make a hardcore character but I would rather invest my time in lifting weights and staying active. You say it’s basic mage play, i mained a mage, it’s easy to sit back and critique and say aw man I would’ve frost novad, polymorphed, mana gemmed and blew up the extra mobs and boss. Chances are it wouldn’t have gone that way
>>536137005The best thing he could have done was say these classicandy hcfags are retards who don't know what they are doing so idgaf: not my problem.This statement would've turned him from rat to legend instantly. Fuck wow players.
>>536134965He's more akin to a nepo baby than a neckbeard
>>536134805yeah, the studios have become so bad, their old games are outcompeting their new shitno wonder that they want to get rid of the good stuff
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>>536133664>this guy's entire persona is built around being the most knowledgeable most skilled most competent guy around.And HIS character survived while everyone else's died.By the rules of the game, and not your misplaced emotionally he IS the smartest most knowledgeable player.You play hardcore mode specifically to engender feelings of fear an motivate selfishness. To make it more like real life. Everyone's happy to be self sacrificial and stoic in the face of danger when there's no consequences. Everyone runs into danger and either dies or wins. Theres never a reason to "run away". That is the problem hardcore mode seeks to solve.
>>536134402Hmm weird metric>Player A's character is alive>The other player's characters are deadHow does the game define winning and losing?>he bitched outThat's what hardcore mode is for. Being a pussy. Without permadeath no one is afraid of dying and everyone acts like a Greek hero. Permadeath motivates and rewards cowardice. That is the point of it.
>>536137900Im in agreement with Esfand, I kind of long for a version of the game where everyone in Azeroth was in the same server on the same layer, it’s completely unfathomable in some sense as it would just be so many people but it sure would be cool. Supposedly that’s how Turtle WoW was and that’s why I mention it, is even the so called “good stuff” games like the classic version of WoW has gotten outperformed by a knockoff version of their own game
Can't believe there are actually anons ITT defending this faggot lol. The wow roach incident is just the tip of the iceberg, this dude is insufferable.
>>536135338A more game accurate interpretation is everyone else was stupid for not running away earlier. You dont play hardcore mode so that everyone can use suicidal tactics. You're meant to play as if your character's life has value.The ONLY difference this makes in-game is that you're motivated to run away.Get emotional about why don't you, and play easier game modes.
>>536132531>a fat gay furry >acts like he is better then eveyonewhy are they always like this?
>>536135997Uh huhNow take a deep breathWow is a role.playing game and him justifying his cowardice is part of him playing his role.What happened wasn't real.No one diedNo one actually "ran away" from anything.No one proved who they really were in that moment.This dude talks shit about video games and then isn't good at the video game? GO FIND BETTER PROBLEMS
>>536138198>Can't believe there are actually anons ITT defending this faggot lol.It's the internet in 2026 bro.You're not chatting with White guys between 100-120 IQ, you're chatting with baiters baiting baiters baiting baiters ad vitam eternam in a sea of brown turds.You're only here because you deserve it. It's our purgatory. If we were better people, we wouldn't be talking with these guys.
>>536133058This is the gayest explanation for why someone deserves punishment that I have ever read in my life.
>>536132531Does he or does he not use a voice changer or fake his voice on purpose?
>>536132531How or why is this political?
>>536133972>Could he have saved anyone? That’s all debatableIt's not really debatable. The guys who died managed to make it 95% of the way out of the dungeon even without roachboy helping. He 200% could have saved them.
>>536138198what's the harm?
>>536136288>The whole point of that "challenge" is to play as boring as possible and take 0 risksIndeed.Depending on the game, adding that layer of anxiety can enhance the experience. I'm not a wow player so I can't speak to that specifically but in all games with this mechanic the point is the same>my character is more authentic and important because I can lose it at any time. Game masters use every trick to try and cajole players into running away from tough challenges. Players never do. Assaulting problems head on and retrying after failure is the best strategy when you can regenerate in full for free. Permadeath is considered too cruel for.standard game.play so it's an option for people to opt into to try and get that feeling. That feeling only exists if the risk is real. These guys got to experience the hardcore gameplay at its peak and it turns out they don't like it.
>>536133058snca
>>536137928I played a warrior during vanilla, on a pc that could hardly run the game, if you knew the amount of poorly timed computer shitting the bed deaths I took while playing youd wonder why I even came back, never hit 60 until a few days after TBC came out, eventually caught up and got to raid some cool content. Still longed for the original version of the game and the original raids and stuff I missed on the version of the game that made me like it in the first place, they made unnecessary additions to the game, thought TBC was cool but everything after that just wasn’t the same despite the fact that I played most expansions upto Pandaria and Legion, kept wishing I could go back and experience the original raids. Got to do some of them in classic, was going to say I enjoyed it for all of two phases but I had to stop and correct myself, don’t think I enjoyed it much at all.
>>536133058people put survivors guilt on other people easily when they’re the only one to make itone time my friends broke into a building while i kept watch, cops showed up, one of them sprained their ankle in the building too, cop asked me what was happening, I said I was just taking a walk and sat down to rest, then he heard the fuckers inside just as he was about to leavethey all got trespassing charges and I got shit and they hated me forever because they were retards>>536133972one time your dad came in to the room we were all hanging in and threw a skateboard across the room and almost broke your sliding glass door, your dad was a huge dick for no reason and your mom was like the perfect image of an exhausted wife due to his abuse
>>536138667The way y’all are acting about it I almost think the whole thing was a plot to get his character killed in the first place and it backfired, whomp whomp.
>>536138969Sounds made up. I had quite a few skateboards none were ever thrown at the glass door? Are you the dude who crapped himself after taking a bong hit and had to wipe your ass with the cardboard part of a toilet paper roll?
>>536139087they were sitting on your wood stove, the one by the pool table downstairs in your bilevel, he got mad they were there even though it was summer and shoved them off the wood stove saying some boomer shit like he did whenever he walked into a room
>>536139087i will say i cannot count a single one of our friends grouping up from school that didn’t have life chew them up and spit them out completely, not one of usmy mom just died too, you knew her, she liked you when we were kidsgood luck nigga, be careful on the chins
>>536139244Eh sometimes ya get yelled at by a boomer, that’s honestly story of my life, I could name multiple peoples parents in this area who put hands on me when I was a child.
>>536137005The problem with speaking as an authority on EVERYTHING is eventually you're going to fuck up and get called out. Running out was just a flash point for something that has been brewing for a while.
>>536132531Isn't he a lowcow?
>>536139591I’m sorry about your mom, that’s something I can’t imagine is an easy thing for anyone to go through. And some of my friends moms were so nice, my friends parents in general, even if their dads ever yelled at me or gave me a hard time, I learned from it, there was always a lesson there. I read the obituaries every single day, and usually when I see someone who I knew or one of their close loved ones has passed away I always reach out to say I’m sorry for their loss. I haven’t seen any recently that I can say definitively who you are, but I want you to know I believe you and I’m so sorry for your loss. Some of my friends moms probably saved me a lot of grief as a young man in a lot of ways, and if your mom was one of those people, I have tears in my eyes knowing the world lost a real one. Keep your head up, thanks for commenting to me.
I think what's particularly strange about this case is that I probably knew dozens of guys like him when I was at university or in my first couple of jobs in the tech industry.They are there because of their father. Not even because their father is remarkable, but simply because their father has put in like 20+ years into something like a company and then their son is brought in as a nepo hire. Or they just got the university place because of the recommendation letter from someone who studied there long ago, who may have done a bit of fundraising and it's to compensate for the guy's grades not being good enough to get that CS place or whatever.And of course guys like this have many failed projects that they can't even admit they're failures. That often flunk out of group projects or team based activities. They will rightly get branded as flaky due to their big egos constantly writing cheques that their abilities cause to bounce.The only noteworthy thing about this story for me is how he's just taken to streaming as a way of preserving his ego. And now that he's been bragging about himself, he now feels the need to save face and lie even more, because there are clips on the internet forever. 20 years ago, if he was the type of braggart that was making a fool of himself, he could just get a new alias and try to start fresh. Maybe even take a break from the internet. But the information cycle is so fast now, people addicted to the notifications on their phone or checking up on their favourite streamer that's streaming multiple times a week that there is now demand for constant updates, constant use of real names and identities. And it's not the internet I grew up with.Weirdly, a guy like him would've fared much better if we didn't have a drama economy where people might not even care about the subject matter but see dollar signs, because views, engagement. And retards will watch hours of this stuff per day. What are you going to do with this information?
>>536139843honestly really appreciate it bro, she was a real one
>>536139867>What are you going to do with this information?Nothing as usual