Norway... There is no other place I would call home.
>>536154096Wow hopefully hes prepared to pay his taxes and sponsor a few refugees.
>>536154096Bergen people are so predictable
>>536154096Yes
>>536154096>making 5 omelets, 4 are cold
>>536154096Can you find a more comfy picture, please. This guy's dinner looks really bleak.
>>536154096doesn't putting the plate directly on the ground attract all sorts of critters?
>>536154096Modi just visited, soon those rivers will be filled with trash when the pajeets come.
basert brornow pls share oil money
>>536154096Do forest animals consider humans pajeets since humans go to and poop in their domain?
>>536154096boring country with nothing to do.pass.
Norway? More like Norgay amirite
>>536154210our tax level is at 45% and a VAT of 20%, plus fees on loads of services we pay taxes for already. thanks to successive labor party governments taxes have become a normative, not a function of the state you adjust according to need. we have a huge sovereign wealth fund and oil money pouring in yet 55% of the population thinks we should disincentivize making money. not to mention how over half the population in one way or another works for the state. we are becoming a god damn banana republic while capital flight levels are record high. meanwhile economic growth is stagnating and interest rates are increasing the greens in government managed to push "zero emition" building sites, pushing the cost of a finished square metre of property up to 4500$. for a young person who already has ~50k in student loans the dream of owning your own house which is strong in this country is becoming less and less accessible. we are building less than during WW2. the country is in an economic crisis we're just not feeling because we're padded by the oil wealth. I am absolutely livid about it.
>>536154096Im so sick of these berries and fish eating faggots
>>536155068I went to have a look at a 15k (2k usd) a month apartment in Bergen.. it was 35m2 and I saw probably 30 people viewing it in 15 minutes. It's insane what people are paying now.
>>536155068Your entire fucking economy is tied up in oil, what did you expect?
>>536155068There’s a lot packed into what you’re saying, and some of it reflects real pressures in Norway right now but some parts are also more mixed or overstated than the data usually supports.First, on taxes: Norway is a high-tax country, but the effective tax burden varies a lot by income and consumption patterns. Top marginal income taxes plus employer contributions can feel heavy, but many households pay less than headline “45%” once deductions and brackets are factored in. VAT is also 25% standard rate (not 20%), though reduced rates apply to some goods and services.On the welfare state share of employment: it’s true Norway has a large public sector compared to many countries, but it’s not “over half the population working for the state.” Roughly around 30% of employment is in the public sector, depending on how you classify municipal services, health, education, etc. That is large, but not majority employment.On oil wealth: the Government Pension Fund Global is indeed enormous and cushions the economy significantly. But it’s also tightly governed by fiscal rules (the “4% rule”), meaning most of it is not directly spent in the economy; it’s intentionally designed to avoid overheating and Dutch disease effects.“we are building less than during WWII” is not accurate in aggregate terms. Modern construction is far lower than peak postwar expansion phases, but still far above wartime levels.
>>536154096I love norway and have been 6 times but the taxes are just too high to live there. When I did the math, my take home pay on $100k would be only $28k after all taxes. Insanity but maybe ill buy a hytte and summer there
>>536155068You're literally just inventing problems because you're too rich. Humans will always complain regardless of how good they have it.
>>536155335thanks chatgpt
>>536155238Precisely. Any attractive job is in the city unless you want to live in a place with poorer services or take risks. So when the cities never give permits to build anything new that isn't an ugly globohomo style government buildings suddenly your rent goes up and boomers who bought dirt cheap back when they were the same age earns more on sitting on their equity than they have had in income over their professional lives in many cases.>>536155264we wanted to trade half of it for half of Volvo and in hindsight you might have been right to say no. imagine the refugee crisis in 2014 if you had money to throw around like we do.
>>536154389Looks like pancakerinos too me
Is it still light outside there? It's starting to get dark here now.
>>536154096They gang stalk
>>536154096Norway is cool but sadly they got nogged like every other EU nation (beside Poland)
Those are the Bavarian Alps
>>536155068>capital flightLol lmao even like tears in rain
>>536155498He is retarded. Few such cases in Norway, thankfully.
>>536154096I want to move to Norway
>>536155335Ok chatgpt> varies a lot by income and consumption patternsyes when you finally reach a good income the progressive taxation knocks you right back to average. what does this incentivize? > VAT is also 25%misremembered, it is however far too high and as you mentioned consumption patterns matter. this affects the poor and working class harder than the upper classes. > 30% of employment is in the public sector, > depending on how you classifyexactly. when the department of foreign affairs were told not to hire more people the use of consultants exploded. just because you call it private doesn't mean the state isn't the one paying for it. there are examples across all sectors. it's statistical shenaningans. if you wanted to you could classify our hospitals as private because they are run under an enterprise model (foretaksmodell). > most of it is not directly spent in the economyit varies between making up 20 to 25% of our national budget. that is significant in of itself. trying to avoid overheating is fine, but our interest policy has been to increase the rate again and again, which again doesn't benefit the people we want to be productive. these are political decisions that are compounded other factors as well. > WW2saying since WW2 is a common phrase to describe that it's been a long time. we had peaks postwar to reconstruct what was destroyed, the liberal 80s and in 2016, from 2016 to today construction of new homes are halved and from a quick google search you can see that we're constructing 43% less housing than we need right now.>>536155498got it for christmas, will read it once I've worked my way through the other books on my list.>>536156186it's not just that, but we are also disincentivizing innovation. look at the Draghi report, the most valuable companies in the US are very recent, the biggest EU companies are still the same ones our grandfathers worked at. Norways not where you make it big
>>536154096Do you joik up there?
>>536157091How would you fix Norway? If the government start realising sovereign wealth fund gains and giving out tax cuts or perhaps spending more that will heat up inflation in Norway very quickly
>>536154266Liker du hamburger?
This picture needs more Indians to satisfy PM Modi's foreign policy.
>>536154096>>536154210>>536154266thats Russian guy in Altai.
>>536154210Taxes reduce other costs when your government isn't run by pedophiles. Like you don't hear pf homeless people with $100k of medical debt in Canada but you can't walk more than 5 feet in the US without meeting someone with crippling medical debt.
>>536154096Dark and depressing
>>536159984Not really. Anything south of slightly northern central norway is pretty decent. Oslo is barely affected by the northern axis tilt affecting the sunlight hours (at least in comparison to other northern parts).And it still balances out either way in the summer months.>>536159938I'm disputing a hospital bill right now.tl:dr; 5k USD for a steroid shot + prescription. Even though their own internal billing says only 90 for the drug plus 600 for the IV, they tacked on 4k for "room fee". Bullshit.
>>536155412You can't move anywhere while you pay taxes in the US, you have to move permanently and get a new job.
>>536161659Nah, basically taxes in the US work like this:You WILL pay US tax rate. Other countries get first dibs. Let's say it's 30%.You go to Mexico with a 10% tax, you pay 10% to Mexico and 20% to the US. You go to Norway with its 50% and you only pay 50% to Norway.
>>536154096>Norwegians are the most pure Nordic Aryans>Norway is rich from oil money and has a high standard of living>Norway is the least retarded Nordic countryWhy wasn't I born Norwegian? I could be enjoying tendies and luxury... Was it bad karma for something I did in a previous life?
>>536157469Huge question. I mean you strike me as a norwegian expat since you recommended that book, so why did you leave? We could start with that because like I said, there's no point in having intelligent or productive people leave. But since we're on fiscal policy, you're not wrong, inflation would of course rise by realising the gains. Then again, I'm no expert, every way I can think of when it comes to monetary policy has it's own issues, such as gold or tying our issuing to other currencies. I would at least start by using more of it for investment in energy because all other economic activity is downstream of that. Second would be to put more of it into actual innovation, not subsidized green tech. I suppose you heard about the Morrow factory? 2bln down the drain. Third would be to empower the young (I wouldn't even benefit personally from this) but shifting the tax from income to other sources is a good start, as well as undoing several regulations on construction which is causing the problems we discussed above. There's also too much consolidation in certain parts of our market, we effectively have a duopoly in food for instance, so giving certain institutions a new mandate (Konkurransetilsynet) and teeth to break up organizations like that. Thus lowering prices on consumer goods which affects the low income brackets the most. Plenty of other mundane concerns like that, leaving ACER and stopping projects that increase the cost of energy for both the consumer and industry is also important.This is just economics though, there's a whole slew of social issues that need to be fixed as well. The major one would be restoring the trust culture we had, increasing fertility by incentivizing women differently, targeted immigration policies, unfucking young peoples mental health etc. all of which are massive projects.
