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We know that christianity was the reason rome fell. But rome was multyethnic and involved with the jews. could it be that the christianization was not the cause of its downfall but a results of them nigger and jewbreeding for so long? is it genetically determined if you will cut your sons dick off?
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The west collapsed because the Catholic church's ideology was against warfare and they could no longer recruit, so no one was around who could oppose the invading barbarians (most of whom were also christian, but Arians who idealized warfare and thought jesus was like Thor)

>but browns

Byzantine had way more browns and survived centuries longer. They even btfo the jews themselves when they revolted. The difference was the church in the east was more pro-war and had a higher population to draw from for recruits. They also didn't burn all pagan knowledge like the retarded catholics.
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>>536184759
>>536184871
>American education
Protestants are funny.
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>>536184759
Logical fallacy
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
Rome fell because of decadence weakening it long before Christianity came. Christianity caused one last convulsion because of how opposed it was to what was going on. Basically if rome was a person it had a heart attack
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>>536184871
if you acknowledge that christianity turns you into a pacifist cuck then why claim
>most of whom were also christian
when they were all mongols and muslims
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>>536184871
If you didn't notice Romans were recruiting Goths barbarians which were mostly Arian Christians.
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>>536185339
the true Aryan p—we need to teturn to Arain Christianity
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>>536185223
lies and more lies
rome was at the peak of its glory when the subversion had started already. rome was raising the first hundred years christards spread between the slaves,
also decadence isnt real thats just a word christcels say if societies doesn't give them a tradwaifu
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>>536184759
>We know that christianity was the reason rome fell
Don't be retarded
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>>536184759
>We know that christianity was the reason
no it was not
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>>536184971
>German education
The Christian church was never united, the pentarchy separated it into 5 different regions which all had different interpretations of scripture and policies whose oppositions could only be occasionally papered over by councils like in Nicaea

>>536185318
Arianism was deemed heretical at Niceae
also
>when they were all mongols and muslims
Most the invaders were German arians, most the defenders of Rome were also German arians, the "catholic" natives of western Rome were passive cucks which is why the Germanics had their way with western Europe the next thousand years.
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>>536185339
also worth noting that ALL the germanic tribes who became christniggers were multyethnic locoustswarms shortly before converting. look at the franks, goths, allemans.. but all pure germanic tribes were completely whiped out when it was their turn to become of the jew
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>>536185223
Rome certainly had problems but there's no reason to think it would fall prior to the Christianity induced recruitment crisis in the west.
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Roman Catholicism conquered the world and is the biggest group in the world. Denounce the kabbalah real quick now.
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>>536184759
rome didn't really fall
it continued very much from the 5th century with the same beauracy, army-style, infighting, just under a new leadership - ostrogoths, and shortly even re-united for 30 years under Eastern Rome.
And Eastern Rome continued with breaks until 1453, bc of nigger-turks.
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>>536185463
Faggot the west is secular now and it’s more decadent and collapsing more now than ever
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>>536184759
> usury impoverishes roman society to the point the farmers who used to make up the military are now landless slaves
> the entire military is now made up of slaves
>THIS IS JESUS' FAULT

Read marx or any economist before 1900 you illiterate retard. So sick of you morons always coming up with some excuse to avoid the interest charging elephant in the room.
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>>536185555
>wiped out
?? Germanics won, they invaded Western Rome and settled there only losing their identity after years of settlement and mixing with the locals.
>>536185571
>Roman Catholicism conquered the world

Latin America and the Philippines is not "the world." Catholics have yet to even reconquer the Mediterranean.

>>536185574
>rome didn't really fall

It did, it went from the center of control (although technically by that time the capitol had moved to Ravenna) of the entire western part of the empire, to nothing but the kingdom of the Ostrogoths.

>even re-united for 30 years under Eastern Rome.

which the Byzantines quickly lost to the Lombards, another Germanic tribe.
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>>536185647
> usury impoverishes roman society to the point the farmers who used to make up the military are now landless slaves

That was a problem in Caesar's time, and even prior to that generations earlier in the time of the Gracchi Brothers and Sulla/Gaius Marius. Yet somehow Rome lasted 600 more years inspite of this, basically until the rise of Christianity and it's anti-violence and resistance to enemies policies.
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>>536184759
>fall of rome
That was a good thing.
Rome relied on industrial scale slave labor
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>>536185754
slavery continued after Rome fell
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>>536185545
> this was a problem during Caesars time
> secession of the plebs

It was a problem right at the beginning of roman society when the oligarchs got together and killed the king. They immediately began charging interest on loans and enslaving/taking the lands of those who couldnt pay.

The reality is the elites of indo european societies are the ones who weakened their own society.

It was the descendants of the Norse and Germanics who created central banking in the first place to enslave all of the world to usury.

No other societies did this by the way, this is an exclusively aryan innovation
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rome was in decline and Constantine the great saved the empire by becoming Christian
the jews, using their Muslim golems later destroyed it
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>>536185476
>>536185506
once upon a time a memeflaggot and a fatt american entered a bar. the barkeeper loked up, started to look really angry and said: get out of here you filthy kikes
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>>536185898
>It was a problem right at the beginning of roman society

Which was rectified with the creation of the tribune of the plebs, which could veto legislation not in the interest of the commoners. That was not related to the later problem: Rome conquering so much land and territory the elites could ship in cheap slaves to replace the locals.

>It was the descendants of the Norse and Germanics who created central banking i

lol you retard, central banking goes back to ancient Sumer and ancient middle east, it's the indo-europeans who didn't have central banking up until the modern era.

>an exclusively aryan innovation

^things you'd have to be insane to believe.
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>>536184759
It fell because of the "multiculturalism" christianity actually saved rome. Have you not heard of emperor constantine?
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>>536185545
>>when they were all mongols and muslims
>Most the invaders were German arians, most the defenders of Rome were also German arians, the "catholic" natives of western Rome were passive cucks which is why the Germanics had their way with western Europe the next thousand years
lol germanics invading rome is not europe being invaded, its christniggers doing christnigger things. i am talking about the 1000 years of crushing defeats europa suffered thanks to being christarded till the renaissance
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>>536184971
>>536185571
He is russian
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>>536186184
>1000 years of crushing defeats europa suffered thanks to being christarded till the renaissance
Especially Crusaders were crushing defeats.
It was the biggest logistic project in the Europe till times of conquest of the new world.
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>>536186132
>>536186035
>Constantine "saved" Rome
>collapses within 150 years of Constantine
>collapses within 100 years of Theodisus banning all pagan public life

really makes you think. St Augustine had to write an entire book coping about pagans criticizing Christians for being responsible for the fall of Rome, so even at the time they knew.

>>536186184
I never said "invading Europe", it's Rome that was invaded and they saw a clear demarcation between themselves and the Germanic tribes and other non-Romans.

The non-European invaders like the Huns and Avars, were defeated, eventually, thanks mostly to the Germanics who maintained a warlike, uncucked nature.
>>536186234
lol wut
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>>536186184
the topic is the fall of rome moron
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>>536185606
>also decadence isnt real thats just a word christcels say if societies doesn't give them a tradwaifu
can't you read, memefaggot? you posted a fertility chart. so you is complaining about your dry dick again. cant make this up. and thats not decadence. that is healing. your disgenic ass was only born bc christards believe their is value in fat stupid niggers living in mumbai. without christian morals you would be dead. in a fair, free world abominations like you would never had been borne. this ugly and weak population is a result of christian one waifu for one cuck socialism. we need you to stop breeding
glory to the chads and the pornstacies!!!
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If survival is your aim, race matters more than everything else.
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>>536186094
> which was rectified

The usurers literally killed Julius Caesar for suggesting giving his returning soldiers land (owned by the wealthy class).

> central banking goes back to ancient sumer

To have central banking you'd need

>double entry accounting
which didnt exist in ancient sumer
> parliament to collect taxes as collateral
Which didnt exist in ancient sumer
> oligarchs overthrow the monarchy
Which didnt exist in ancient sumer

That was all accomplished by your beloved aryunz during the glorious revolution (and Cromwell) in england, so they could fund their war on the catholics through central banking.

> things you'd have to be insane to believe

The first indo european epic poem (the illiad) is about how the king was so corrupt he demanded to have Achilles slave girl for himself.

While we're at it, Alexander the greats reward for conquering the known world was his generals killing his only living descendant and splitting his empire among themselves. Wow so heroic and amazing, yeah it was jesus who made these "heros" so weak.
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>>536186331
The empire was already fractured prior to constantine. Also august 6th 1806 is closer to 1500 years after 312 than 150. Dumbfuck.
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It collapsed because they pissed the gods off
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>>536185681
the chads plundering rome in the 5th century is not the swarms of displaced christlings fleeing from attila.
and those "intermingeling" tribes then genocided the germanics who stayed home and defeated the huns. it was kinda like when the amerimutts bombed the shit out of german kids and wives when they were weakended from their war with the sowjet union. those was also christard niggers and they killed 15 million inocent germans who share the good part of their blood. they killed their own relatives. christlings are worse teaitors than jews literally
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>>536186489
>fall of western roman empire didn't happen
nice christcope
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>>536186630
Holy wars, when?
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>>536186319
>but we went to die for the jews being crusarders and shietz
wow and now american christniggers who go die for isreal are also part of the biggest logistcs operation ever you memeflaggot. why its only memeflags in this thread anyway? where you golems at i dont want to talk to niggerflaggs
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>>536186630
Why do indians hate Christianity? I suppose as a walking piece of feces, a religion about raping children and your grandpa while eating cowshit speaks to your soul.
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>>536186630
> SAAAAR I HATE JESUS HE TALKED ABOUT US BEING EQUAL
> I AM NOT EQUAL, I AM THE 300TH REINCARNATION OF A DALIT SAAAAAR
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>>536186630
>The eastern roman empire wasnt christian
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>>536186813
leave my thread
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>>536184759
>We know that christianity was the reason rome fell.
which jew told you that?
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>>536186844
Of course, like Socrates ill leave in victory. Another jeet, another capitalist, another nazi tranny owned. The truth is closer to being uncovered than yesterday.
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>>536186844
stop making well poisoning threads to discredit Christianity, moshe, and dont tell people what to do in your ashkenazi threads.
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>>536186883
ehm every jewflag and christgolem in this thread says it was decadence and NOT christianity, you included
you need to come up with something better, golem. the agents run out of memeflaggs already the situation is critical
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>>536184759
probably the same as with every white country, they are too nice and peaceful, they colonized and freed niggers, leading to the birth of brown jews. gave them fire in friendship, and as a result got burned.
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>>536186920
i literally skiped your wall of text bc of your flag
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>>536184759
>We know that christianity was the reason rome fell
more of a symptom desu
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>>536186821
no one cares about byzantines, even "byzantium" larping orthobros secretly find it ugly and brown
>>536186920
>Of course, like Socrates ill leave in jeet
ok
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>>536186992
>the goyim all agree that Christianity wasnt responsible for the fall of Rome, the jews were
duh doy.
every goyim knows that.
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>>536187018
came here to post this but got distracted
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>>536184759
>We know that Christianity was the reason rome fell
Stopped reading there. It was a breakdown of the social contract beginning with the repurposing of hereditary provencial social service losing it's importance, and ending when Rome's supply of grain from North Africa was cut off causing elites to flee the city and peasant laborers to follow them which killed Rome's tax and manpower base.
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>>536187109
tldr for dummies: Romans gave up on the idea of the empire because it no longer served them to hobble it forward.
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>>536187027

You're lucky one of your kind coded ai image generators, or i would've owned you
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>>536184759
>sincere attempt to study history
>actually no lol find me some more anti-catholic seethe to smear over me
actually never gonna make it
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>>536187229
it would appear that all the experienced mossad trolls got killed by Iran in the war, judging by the drop in quality lately.
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>>536187168
we know you're a south indian christian, it's not working
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>>536186985
this stupid shizoboard has to either drop christ or drop antisemitism
like its ok if you guys wana have your conservative inceljerk but then stop wasting our time we are not allies
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PYwl2P2ol4c&pp=ygUOaW5zaWRlIGdvb25pbmfSBwkJIwsBhyohjO8%3D
im in a ltr and i will not move my ass to get your tradie wive dreamlive, not your army, ok?
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>>536187426
>embrace Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour even harder, and increase antisemitism by 9,000%
fixed that for ya.
>Christians and jews are not allies
duh doy, all the goyim know that.
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>>536184759
>We know that christianity was the reason rome fell.
No we don't, moshe.
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>>536187229
>dutch
>simps for catholics
>>536187109
you are a mutt because of christianity. and a christtard because you are a mutt
whatever you bable, nothing will change this
this board is a traitor at heart. there is no victory here.
have fun you niggers, im out of here
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>>536184759
rome fell because it was a political shitshow where leaders were frequently chosen by praetorian cloak and dagger
if anything, cuckstianity gave it a shot in the arm which allowed it to persist several centuries after they shoudve fallen. in east romes case, many centuries.
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>>536187702
>moshe is running away, his ashkenazi well poisoning thread was a total PR disaster for israel
so sad.
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>>536187764
we put a picture of you on the beamer here in the office
hahaha mah guy like how can you look like that???? like everybody here is laughing tears i swear r:D
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>>536184759
Rome fell because of what we are experiencing right now. The taxation and centralization was so unbearable that no one wanted to stay on the land and grow anything and cities were just full of mystery meats speculating while they foreigners they hired to defend everything realized they could just loot everything unopposed.
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>>536187841
can we see your office?
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>>536187932
with or without your picture?
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>>536187027
Your obviously wrong otherwise the Holy Roman Empire wouldnt have been dissolved just to prevent Napolean from legitimately claiming the title of Holy Roman Emperor.

Ironic that a shit jeet is calling something brown
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>>536187932
כולם אומרים שלום, ידידי המכוער, אתה מתנצל על הבדיחה
xoxo breakroom
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>>536188661
אתה, ראש מגבת
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Chapters 8 and 9 of Kenneth Humphreys book gives a good breakdown of the death of the empire. Free on audiobook by the author.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w7hTaQWPTAU
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>>536187168
Write "a man from Deccan Plateau" instead.
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>>536188829
קח הפסקה, חדר חחח
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>>536184759
We need to bring the Gods back and kick out from Europe every Abrahamic religion and religious
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>>536184759
Christianity and multiculturalism killed Rome.

>>536186132
Constantine's first order of business was banning Pagan religion and enshrining jewish religion, going so far as to install jews in the seats of city curias. Rome promptly collapsed thereafter while the jews clicked their heels and profited.
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>>536184759
>christianity was the reason rome fell.
Nonsense
Rome had fallen centuries before, with the ascend of the (((Severans)))
Christcuckery was just another symptom not the cause
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>>536184759
>is it genetically determined if you will cut your sons dick off?
stop circumcizing
>>536189801
It wasn't the Christians who imported hundreds of thousands of brown slaves. The pagan overlords decided to employ slaves, rather than their own people. And then they gave citizenship to the slaves.

Christianity is independent of this (and also true and can be proven with hard evidence).
https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/from-a-mathematical-and-logical-standpoint
https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/some-facts-about-the-shroud-of-turin
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>>536189595

based
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>>536184759
>>536184871
Civilisations collapse due to women gaining power.

The civilisational structure needs an update, and I think, besides keeping women away from politics/relegated to the domestic, it’s keeping the female population a good bit under the male numbers and making the women a common use product for men to spunk in. Women then become like entertainment for most of the time, providing stress alleviation. There should be a birth draft and separate sex-specific education/system for women to keep them trim, healthy and fertile as long as possible in case of a birth draft. Outside of that women should all be inserted with intrauterine devices to make pregnancy impossible, and if some woman still gets pregnant they are legally obliged to abort it along with being fined and given a prison stint. If the kid is a female when a female isn’t needed, abortion as early as possible so she can begin ovulating again.

Of course this would have to work through a religious structure, and considering feminism, lgbtq-faggotry and cuckstianity, kt is entirely possible for a nation to adopt this system of belief.
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>>536190176
Oh, children must belong to men, and we’ll use robots for any expanding labor demands. Yes, there is a vulnerability of comparable population to nations that are popping out ridiculous number of kids which means likely higher production capacity and military threat, but the idea here is simply civilisational continuance. Overpopulation kills, and moving forward the numbers need to be better controlled.
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>>536188281
relevance? do you know what byzantine means?
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>>536189158
>>536187377
How many izzats were lost
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civil wars for Rome were the equivalent of our WW2 or Greece's Peloponnesian war, even if one side won, everyone within the power structure lost eventually, the empire demographically was not Greek or Roman in the original senses anymore but largely populated by former colonials from the orient, it's no coincidence the political shape changed as well relatively rapidly especially after the Italic ruling families lost control
by the time christianity has infected major cities it was already an unrecognizeable place to a Republican Roman or classical Athenian
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>>536190521
Its the eastern roman empire. Now go drink your corpse water from the shit river patel.
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>>536190134
>wasn't the Christians who imported hundreds of thousands of brown slaves
ehm it was the jews and other semites and for me theres no distinction between chritards and jews. also what about the usa and brazil? jews and christfarts imported millions of nigger slaves there. dont come with christards ended slavery. christardenes made 1 million white people enslaved by muzis and jews just so you now, traitor
>proving christianity
pls guy everything in the bible contradicts itself so no prove can be delivered and the contradictions prove the falseness already,
just get lost kikesucker
>>536190176
not your army i will not fight for ypur sexual fantasy. best you keep your sick phantasie for yourself or tell them to the jews when you hold hands together, walking into the gaschambers you pedofreaks
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>>536184759
>>536186772
Besides their religion. Britain ruled India and they're still butt hurt over it. Plus many of them are paid by kikes to post.
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>>536186035
>The brown armenoid byzantines were Roman bro!!!
Only a slavshit balkanoid subhuman like you believes this lmao
Orthocucks need to be slaughto
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>>536184759
>Rome fell because muh Christianity
>Christian Rome survived another thousand years

Rome fell because they had a civil war every time an emperor died you retard.
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>>536193191
>Plus many of them are paid by kikes to post
imagine you need to believe this to keep your worldview intact. your like the jews. alsways asking why people hate you for no reason. pathetic
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>>536193864
it is not possible for pure whites to have an emperor. every vermanic people always was free and had a democrotic system of law. only mongreliced germanics descended into dictotorships and were ruled by senile christards. rome was already mongreliced when the first emperor, augustus, was installed to open the floodgates to the jewish menace. he was very tolerant towards them. maybe they helped tople the democratic order? there are many such cases.
also dont call me retard you inbreed neanderthal,



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