>>536188253Because abandoning all private property ownership is retarded, is not some requirement to collectivize, and you're just an incompetent moron that will starve everyone if you get what you want, no one should listen to you everyone should shoot you.
>>536188335But socialism isn't abolishing all property, just privatization of capital. Even the communist manifesto says this
>>536188411>socialism is... privatization of capitalthat is the opposite of socialism is, are you confusing words maybe?
such a deep interest in your own thread it seems
>>536188634I am just going by the communist manifesto
Oh Rothschild, with your jewish nonsense, never fail to amaze me.
>>536188253Why do leftists humanize Stalin and other communist tyrants when they were just as bad if not worse than Hitler?
>>536189375Has partly to do with their aims. Churchill was also as bad as Hitler in many ways but liberals romanticize him
>the government is evil capitalists who control the media and school system >They definitely are telling the truth about ww1 and ww2 tho!Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah
>>536189229Are you sure you're reading the right document?
>>536190549This, you should only trust Soviet sources
>>536190611Yes. From the second chapter: "The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property."
>>536190668That's the distinction between private and personal property. Private property is to be abolished
>>536190742If by private property you mean capital, then yes. For example in Cuba you have 80% home ownership but it is illegal to own over two homes and two are only allowed if one is your vacation home. This is because homes beyond that are bought for renting out which is capital.
>>536188634abolishing the privatization of capital, retard.
>>536191083Yes private property is capital. It's the same thing
>>536188253The state functions as a landlord. If farmers don't have total control it sucks.
>>536191663Professional "farmers" are generally landlords but worse unless you mean the labor that works in farming and agriculture
>>536190036Supposedly making millions of jeet go hungry is not a bad thing so indeed you are a jeet.>>536191083>80% home ownership in Cuba saar!Yeah sure that house is "yours" until whoever inheritied the island from the Castro bros thinks you're a reactionary chud, takes the house from you and shoves you into a sugar gulag.
>>536188335You're a moron... Don't confuse socialism with what "brave east side new your Jewish volunteers" did after overthrowing "the last tyrant of Europe"... And Americans and British Christians celebrated the death of Christians at the hands of Jews....Go fuck yourself... You've been logged for so long... I can't take anything you people say seriously.Do you even have a foreskin?
>>536191481This is largely false and comes from the method by which communists translate economic texts. Communists, all of them, even marx, fall into a simple cognitive trap. That is quite simply>hopeful translation They read a thing>for example "labor is the root of all value" And they don't try to understand what the author meant. They crudely impose >this guy is wrong because labor doesn't determine sale price, the owner does!Which is a complete denial of the phenomenon of opportunity cost or the agency of the buyer. This is what makes the communist so hard to communicate with, they don't operate on language, they operate on some dim parody of language. >abolish bourgeois ownershipThis almost certainly is a call to abolish the ownership of rent seeking assets. Which is actually inline with classical economics. Adam smith famously wanted to tax rent, which he considered an effective way to make wasteful the what he did not know to call "negligent borgious ownership and harmful speculation."In this the communist reveals themselves not to be a philosopher, not to be an economist, and perhaps even, not to be a rational thinking entity capable of being responsible for their own actions and words. The communist is more like a police officer or traffic warden who has been pulled out of their element and asked to be a lawyer. No fun, illiterate, and probably trying to steal drugs. A real lowlife. See>>536191481>the abolishment of private property is the same thing!Where did their assertion come from? Are they aware of the implications?Abolish private property? That's a paradigm shifting statement, abolish the ownership of clothing? Surely not. Abolish the ownership of homes? Abolish the ownership of labor?What part of alienation of labor does this communist not understand? Surely to "de-alienate" the worker from their labor the worker must own something and be happy. >Our eco daddy messiah says it i promise!!! Read!!Sigh...
>>536192158How is that different from anywhere else? Like the government/banks don't violently take shit from people... It's the character of government... Just because they haven't done it for a few centuries, doesn't mean they won't do it again...
>>536192368Yeah.... You're also a moron...
>>536188253>WHY ARE MY ENEMIES SO SILLY AND STUPID???
>>536192479If you say so :sleepy:
>>536188253because capitalism doesn't exist
>>536188634Consider the stonks markets....What if, Everything that it did was publicly owned and shared?
>>536193823like Cuba?
>>536193693Capital doesn't exist either, I suppose?
