This one will for sure bring us up past replacement rate.
>$189 for a dateThat's more expensive than a prostitute. What kind of dates are these fagots taking these whores on?
>>536204212Why is everything "maxxing" with these faggots? Don't they know moderation is usually the best route?
>>536204212>just as planned
>>536204352A typical date will involve a dinner with a bottle of wine, then a play or movie or something, followed up by drinks at a bar if all goes well. How single are you lmao?
>>536204417Gen Z faggots cannot just live life without thinking it's an RPG. > Solo maxxing> Looks maxxong> Stats > Cortisol spiking I swear ffs.
>$189 for a fucking dateWhat the hell are these men doing with these women? Dinner at a semi-nice restaurant should be like $60-$80 max.
>>536204212Soon they will be one-meal maxxing and car-living maxxing.Those quirky Zoomers.
>>536204212I thought zoomers just netflixed and chilled. Don't they know dating is lame and gay?
>dumbass zoomies think they invented this Lol
>>536204417>>536204500>retarded niggers complain about youth slangThe more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>536204352Seriously, how can that be the average?
>>536204522A solo trip to McDonald's is about $20, taking somebody to Applebee's is probably around $60-80 if you don't get drinks.
>>536204352>>536204522>AverageOne mistake and you are paying child support for decades.
>>536204458that's insane
>>536204458Just go to a dinner with $20-$30 entrees and byob a $10 bottle of wine.If it's not good enough for her, fuck her.
>>536204212OH NONOT THE DATING APPSBUMBLE GET DOWN
>>536204671no, its normal>>536204682this is why a girl has never touched your penis
>>536204212Yeah, we called it going Dutch. If the chick wants to eat, she can bring her wallet the first couple of dates. Never pay for cold leads gentlemen.
>>536204212Nearly zero zoomers are taking women on dates. I stopped taking them out when I realized no other guy in my age group was doing it. I had more success with women when I stopped. I think women view it as effeminate.
>>536204212Why the fuck a date be this expensive? Aren't you supposed to just go for a walk or a drink for a 1st date?Also why would it be relevant? Have zoomers like 50 1st date before something? I used to ask a woman out when I was almost certain it's something that can be concluded
>>536204682>fuck her.I believe that's the idea, anon
>>536204212noooooo wont someone please think of the dating apps nooooooo
>>536204522Bag of groceries for a picnic costs 60 bucks
>mutts think a problem goes away by throwing dollars at it
>impacting dating appsThose tend to die a slow, natural death anyway. What generally seems to happen is that a dating app will come along, focus on trying to actually be of use, some kind of novelty and actually fulfill its matchmaking function. But it will generally be unprofitable and just seek to grow its users. Eventually the investors will want a return on their money and what usually happens after this is that the match group (owners of the very old related .com paid site) will just buy them out.After the new ownership, there is immediate pressure to get the app profitable, focus on how it did this quarter etc. Which inevitably leads to things like shoving more ads in, providing a really crippling experience for men so they feel the need to pay to even have a chance of matching. This causes a downward spiral of losing users (in the same way the social networks slowly die because as more people leave, it becomes a less interesting place to stay). In the end, in the pursuit of metrics they even start to ignore bot accounts, because that helps to keep up numbers short term but is ultimately just another small cut for users to deal with and in the end encourages more to leave.The thing about dating being expensive is not really the whole story. "Average" tells you nothing. If you go for some coffees that cost you around $20, that tells you nothing of the guy who is either a simp or super wealthy (maybe both) that takes her to an expensive place that costs at least $300. Then your "average" is now skewed right.Weirdly, my times where I had the most success with women was when I was broke as fuck. I rage quit a job and was trying to stretch my savings. I filled my time with things like acting in some obscure plays or being the backup drummer for some indie band. Women loved this shit. When they wanted to go on a followup date and I was genuinely broke they offered to pay. I think having a not giving a fuck attitude goes far.
Looking back at my wife's first date with me about 3 years ago: 2 cocktails, and an appetizer at a nice place was $50.We then went to a slightly nicer place for dinner and 2 more drinks, probably another $100. Thats not even doing anything, just dinner and drinks. The first date with my ex was movies for $50, add $25 of popcorn and soda because fuck me right, then we went to sushi for like $60. That was probably 10 years ago. Are boomers forgetting $150 for your average guy in his 20s is like a full day's wages? And that chick will kinda get used to you taking her out or something something fun, so you're basically dedicating 20% of your paycheck dating some hoe.
>>536204856Nearly every problem is solved with money
>>536204522>Dinner at a semi-nice restaurant should be like $60-$80 max.LMFAO you got a time machine? Buying my memorial day cookout of fajitas and beer for 2 people cost $100 at the grocery store.
>>536204212funny how it jumped by exactly 1/8th, surely that's a real statistic and not some psy-op to encourage this
>>536204500Bro can't aura farm!
>>536204212back in my day a $15-20 dinner for two at applebees plus tip got you pussy on the first datezoomers have lost their fucking minds
>>536204352>That's more expensive than a prostitute>$189what kind of skank slampig HIV ridden hookers are you banging?escorts worth their salt are expensive.
>>536204909>Nearly every problem is solved with moneyLol, try to date a gold digger and see if you can change her with more money
>>536204212Tbh dating apps dying is probably good, or at least neutral for fertility rates. Empirically their rise is correlated with dropping rates and logically hookup culture just leads to abortions not married people with kids.
>>536205033Why would you try to change her? She is a hot girl giving exclusive sex for luxury travel, clothes and food. There’s nothing to change
>>536204417You think the kind of retard who unironically uses that term knows anything about Aristotle or philosophy?
Every city in the US has multiple massage places where a relatively attractive woman will lick your asshole for this price.
>>536204417Why’s everything based for you boomer?
>>536204522>>536204522you clearly lack emotional intelligence and drive. women want a man with a plan! not manbaby like you.>Seriously, there are cunts like this now. they demand you plan a whole fucking day of activities to see them
Wow... basically the same price it would cost to hire a prostitute for an hour. Why is it the government doesn't want people to engage in consensual dealings that pertain to their bodily functions? The only way to legally cum w\ a woman is to jump through hoop after hoop, spend money on them, and hope you're getting pussy? You're paying either way. Literally no difference.
>>536204212Pretty stupid than two people cannot meet without spending almost $200.
>>536204417>>536204500Yep. Now you're starting to see why boomers wanted video games banned. They turn your mind to mush.
>>536204779That only works with hardcore feminists.
>>536205245>there are cunts like this now. they demand you plan a whole fucking day of activities to see themlogical end of the feminist gynocracy that has been created. The man has to do all the work, paid and unpaid (the planning) while all the woman has to do is post pics on instagram or videos in moderately revealing clothes on youtube to earn a nice living. Of course they demand everything else be done for them, they have no concept of work in general. God the internet should have never been let out of the research labs.
>>536204212You shouldn't even be going on actual dinner dates with girls you aren't already fucking. In the world we live in, sexual compatibility is established first, before anyone even starts considering a romantic relationship.If you are investing any significant amount of time, money, attention, etc into a girl *before* you've fucked her, that's just going to make her realize that you are a desperate beta male simp who doesn't get any girls. In all likelihood, she will just string you along for free meals and attention as long as she can, before eventually telling you that she's not that kind of girl or she doesn't see you that way or just wants to be friends with you, in the hope that you are desperate and pathetic enough to keep trying to win her over even after getting rejected.Meanwhile, other dudes aren't giving her anything like a free meal, but she is still fucking their brains out. Those guys aren't nice like you, they are actually dicks to her. But she copes by telling herself shit like "being an asshole is his love language."
>>536205232More like some old Chinese granny.
>>536204458Why go through all that hassle? I just sweet talk em, go to theirs to watch a movie and then bang, we plow.
>>536204458>Spend 5+ hours and hundreds to smashLmao what kind of fucking bizzaro world do you live in? A 3 step date night is ridiculous, why would you go to the bar after spending an evening together? Maybe someday mlady will acknowledge you and your dick won't remain dry.
>>536204417They're deliberately courting the attention of young people by speaking in a way they know they'll find grating
>>536205587youre a virgin, and it’s painfully obvious
>>536205512Real Chad shit!
>Why aren't young people spending money on [consumer product]?>No, no, no, it's not because they're utterly destitute. They're just being stingy goyim.
>>536204352I have never seen an escort go for less than $200 an hour on any escort website. What the fuck are you smoking?
>>536205617See >>536205653
>>536205587Yeah but you're poor and date whores.
the jews and their gold intervenes, the root of all evil
>>536204458reddit coded post
>>536204212>>536204458>>536204748women do not deserve this much for what they put out (nothing)
>>536204458For a first date seems pretty stupid. At least in my case I did simpler stuff as a guy in my early twenties.We'd go out to some place and eat something, then walk in a park or something. Plenty of time to talk and meet the other person, and if the moods right, I'd get to kiss her.As I'm a bit of an odd guy I don't do the "Chad" thing of having sex in the first date.Making the date a combo of dinner, play/movie and drinks later sounds like a fucking tedious, never ending chore. That's like three dates in one. And the movie/play is a shit activity that only works if you're already balls deep inside her.Maybe I'm getting old, but I've noticed that even in my place the younger crowd is doing stupid "romantic" stuff. I mean, you can be romantic, but that comes from who you are, not what you spend on.Thanks for reading my blog.
>>536205736See >>536205653>>536205768back in reality, women are amazing and make life worth living my virgin incel friend
>>536204212>>$189and that's just a trip to mickey d's for a small coffee and a muffin.
>>536204417Totes. I'm moderationmaxxing-pilled.
>>536204212Bullshit. Unless you're getting wasted at bars. Some made up number to make people believe they're spending too little/too little is being spend on them.
>>536204458loli fuck young 10/10 pussy every night in Iceland and they literally just walk up to me in a bar and ask me to fuck themnever paid anything
>>536205789the op doesn’t specify a first date, just an average date in general. Its pretty ancient PUA knowledge that taking a girl to three different spots makes her feel like the relationship is progressing faster as each place does feel like a separate date. This has made three separate places the standard for a while now
>>536205688>no u the virgin! I spent $10 for gelato on my fiance's first date. Invited over the next day for buffalo mac I cooked and we fucked. I'm done with your stupid ass.
>>536204352Two movie tickets and sharing a drink and popcorn is $50. Dinner at any half decent restaurant is $80 minimum for two with no alcohol. It's easy to get to over $150.
>>536205984I can prove you are a virgin: what does pussy taste like?
>>536204458For a zoomer? A play? Nobody goes to such things, grandpa.
>>536205846I hope you personally enjoy those things because those same women are fucking dudes that don't do that shit.
>>536206030You have never seen a vagina
>>536204458>then a play>taking BPD whores out to a play in 2026>not taking them out to a cheap bar, spending $30 on drinks for both of you, then banging them back homeHoly fucking shit.
>>536206046The ones you eat? Probably cum.
>>536206095If he likes it, sure. Admittedly the company of women is better than men, in my opinion. They are soft and I like to lay on them, or have them lay on me. But if you think you must do those things to get pussy, kek.
>>536205476It doesn't even work with them because even the most hardcore feminist women still want a selectively "traditional" man.
>>536206050Its is extremely common to go to a broadway play or musical in places with actual culture my brown manlet friend>>536206066Back in reality, they are not. 95% of all sex happens in relationships, with a significant part of the 5% being prostitution. Your average girl will only sleep with a guy after a few months/weeks of dating and only have 2-3 partners in their entire lives
>>536204522You think simps are just dishing out money to girls online? There are simps who are taking these girls on extravagant dates with the intention to blow their minds but instead women have now decided that this is the new "bare minimum". The same phenomenon where a 4/10 will believe she can chase 8/10's because Chad used her pussy one time on a Wednesday afternoon is happening in the dating space. The average woman has seen and done things that some millionaires have yet to experience, and they did it without spending a dime, and these girls show zero appreciation but instead tell these stories as if they are received the "bare minimum" treatment they are entitled to.
>>536204352drive to the girl (gas prices are 5 a gallon):>10 dollarstake her to a movie - two tickets with a popcorn>60 dollarsgo to an average restaurant >100 dollarsyea shits expensive dawg
>>536205846nice try roastie, but we all know that third-wave and fourth-wave feminism has done incalculable damage to the modern woman's mindset and has left them as prideful, spiteful childless karens
>>536204985none are worth their salt, you are simply trying to justify you getting scammed out of hundos for 30min of wet hole action. Here east euro 18yo whores are like 70€ and they are much better than your post-walled meth head coalburners you spend $600 on. And at 70 it still is a fucking scam.
>>536206095This never happens in real life my too old to still be a virgin friend >>536206098haha virgin
>>536206095>$30 on drinksThis is two shitty cocktails now, even at a dive bar. $11.50 each plus tax plus tip
>>53620421220 years ago a chick would put out for a $2.99 extra value meal
>>536205653Whatever gets you through the night.
>>53620631983% of women eventually have children sport, only 61% of men do>>536206330They are virgins, you can tell because they do not know even basic things likw drink prices. Its embarrassing, really
>>536206008Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of PUA tactics.I'd concede that only going to one spot would make the date kind of bland. That's why I used to walk in pretty places with girls, specially if we went out to eat.
>>536204212Zoomers are hella based. mgtow, neet, classic vidya, and anti-zionist. Ultimate accelerationists>t. millenial
>>536206271>Back in reality, they are not. 95% of all sex happens in relationships, with a significant part of the 5% being prostitution. Your average girl will only sleep with a guy after a few months/weeks of dating and only have 2-3 partners in their entire liveslmao come on, how old are you?
>>536204417there will be a maxxinggate soon
>>536205512This. I tried to "shake things up" by taking a woman out to sushi on a first date. Over $100 later I got a kiss as she fucked off.Next date, we were at a bar and she called a friend out there. They were just talking to themselves and ignoring me. Eventually they went shopping together and tried to drag me along. That's when I realized I was being a fucking retard and left with a shred of dignity intact. Funny enough this same woman texted me at night to see if I'd come over to her place, which is all but saying "come and fuck me" and I just said no, I was busy playing Elden Ring.That's when I learned attractive men don't do all this shit because they don't have to. Listen to this anon. Don't take women out on a full on dinner date until she gives you a reason to. Take her out for a drink, maybe coffee or something, if anything at all. Women that demand full on dinners before they've done anything for you are just whores.
>>536206329Dude I'm married and I have a bunch of kids
>>536204212What kind of fancy ass places are these kids goin to? My standard datenight is 2 entrees and 12 beers (8 for me, 4 for her, most chicks dont drink as much at dinner) at chilis is just over a hundred bucks after tip
>>536204522...have you been on a remote island for the last five years?
>>536206271>Its is extremely common to go to a broadway play or musical in places with actual culture my brown manlet friendNo it isn't. Young people don't go to plays and musicals. Unless they're art faggots.
>>536206523this is the truth, backed up by a study with 38,000 responses. Gen Z is having less sex than any generation in recorded history in both genders>>536206564You are not, you are a virgin and it’s painfully obvious to everyone
>>536204212Don’t worry guys, we’re all gonna make it. Just check for Ukrainian widows near you.In Ireland, throw a rock and you’ll hit one.
Damn so drug prices are that high now
>>536206719yes, we do. It’s completely normal, even for teenagers, though your brown shithole is probably different
>>536204417Moderation is the path of mediocrity. The new world has no place for the moderate.
Reading a thread full of zoomers discussing sex and dating is surreal. It's so easy to pick out who is who. Firstly, you are like 3/4 white and 1/4 Hispanic, so stop saying nigga. Secondly, you clearly do not have sex, so why are you LARPing in an anonymous space? Is it because nobody can call you out in a way that is tied to your identity, so you get some weird rush from lying and getting away with it, as if it's not obvious?Posture culture is embarrassing and quintessentially non-white
>>536204500I can tell you got mogged at the goon junction
>>536204212Go to Miami.Dress like an adult man.Go to Tiki on the River.Maybe 2 black guys in the entire place, almost nigger free they just don't go there.It will fill up with women all 7-10s though some are onlyfans hos but you'll recognize immediately which one's and avoid.Lots of white Stacy's go there for their bday and mostly Euro chicks as it's a Greek restaurant.Talk to some of them and buy drinks.A bottle of Moet is $400 but tittycow waitresses bring them out.Drink champagne with your chosen girl.Be dogging her a few hours later back at the hotel.Then you take that girl out on a date to see if she's worth keeping otherwise just go back to Tikis and get a new one. I did that all week when there for some work thing then just settled on one girl from Italy as there's probably no way I'd ever meet another one that caliber so still date her she came back with me.
>>536206901>Secondly, you clearly do not have sex, so why are you LARPing in an anonymous space?Why do you put sex on such a pedestal that it's worth even LARPing about? Sex alone is easy as fuck to get.
>>536206046You lost virginity when you put your dick inside the pussy. Only virgin brag about sex.
>>536206752>self reportedCome the fuck on dude, women lie NON FUCKING STOP. Even the "good" ones. I'm curious, how many women have you been with? Because I'm going to tell you how shit goes for guys like you: you'll "court" a girl, and one will finally give you a "real" chance. Over time, she'll let it slip that her "asshole" ex did the stuff you ask for, and that's why she doesn't want to do it with you. Then, you'll realize the body count she told you (if you're even bold enough to ask) was a lie, when the number of guys she talks about sums up to more than the number she gave you. The nastier women will do this on purpose to cause turmoil, and guess what? That's typically what your approach will land. I'm telling you this because it's the truth, and it sucks, but it's better to know before you fall victim.
>>536206355Still works when you're a "teen". Today's date? Surprise, we're walking around Target. Smell that popcorn, babe? ;)
>>536207012You talk like going to Miami is free. For that plane ticket + the 400$ of Moet + hotel + Uber or rental car, you can just go to South America and fuck hotter women.
>>536207069he cant answer though because he is a virgin and thats why he ran away
>>536204212Can we ban the word "maxxing".Zoomer were a fucking mistake.
>>536206929kek
>>536204417>get off my lawn you darn kids and your maxxing slangshut up and stop making us look bad retard
>>536206450It's all just cherry picking and amplification by these buzzfeed-type blog sites that just pay one or two middle aged women to lurk TikTok all day and spew nonsense about it. By the numbers they are worse in every regard in these things and a small number of them latch onto the forms of the things you mention and make cargo culting their whole personality for a whole
>>536204458I've fucked over 40 women, I'm married with kids and I have never, ever, paid for a restaurant visit. Lmao, what kind of fucking culture do you guys have over there? I cooked for my women at home, never even went out.
>>536204212>$189That better include a kiss and grabbing a tittyOtherwise I'm just going to the shooting range alone
>>536206271>Your average girl will only sleep with a guy after a few months/weeks of dating and only have 2-3 partners in their entire livesHope you don't believe this
>>536204458Legalize prostitution, hoeflation has gotten out of control
>>53620708740% of women are still virgins for their husbands, though only 5% on the wedding night. 2 and 3 round out 80% of all marriages. 90% of women with a body count over 10 will never marry. Women do not sleep around as much as you think. Again, you are a virgin and its painfully obvious
>>536204352This. My girl and I have been together for about 7 months and I can't remember a time I shilled out +$100 on a date aside from going to a motocross event
>>536204856But enough about Germany
>zoomie zoomie on a date>tip the staff and clear your plate >had no drinks but still they payed>more than a whore but didnt get laid
>>536206271>Your average girl will only sleep with a guy after a few months/weeks of datingThe average woman will happily spread her legs 10 minutes after meeting with Chad. The harder you need to work to fuck her, the less attractive you are.
>>536204417>>536207171>>536207211It's just stolen 4chan slang from 10+ years ago, literally all of it
>>536204417Uncreative people force memes.Maxxing is something you do with stats in video games ("maxing out endurance levels") and wasn't used as a suffix with the second X until /pol/ made it popular by calling normiecattle vaxxmaxxers.And indeed if you are vaxxmaxxed you're not human.From there it follows that if you're a gym-maxxer, you're not human.Roidmaxxer? Not human.Looksmaxxer? Not human. Rather, you're mentally ill and need to recheck your mirror. If your face gives you a cortisol spike, you're the skill issue, not your looks. Grow the fuck up.And the same goes for other forms of maxxing.What it really is, is a deep need to perform culture in a world where having your own culture (Dutch, German, French) isn't allowed and where you have to fit in with Zionist ideologies or you get cast out.Guys are trying to improve themselves because they're gaslighting themselves into thinking they're what's wrong instead of society.Look, we all got lied to by our parents, by politicians, and by schools about what adult life will be like.They all said we can become anything we want as long as we study and work for it.Then they pulled the rug in 2008, and it remains pulled ever since.That's not a me problem, a you problem, or the problem of anyone who's been lied to about life.It's the problem of everyone who lied to you.So stop gaslighting yourself. Wanna maxx something anyway? Maxx your chakras and go be a God for yourself, not for others.They're all vaxxed. They're not human. Their opinion is irrelevant.
>>536207290>40% of women are still virgins for their husbands, though only 5% on the wedding nightWow thats bad, I hope a majority of those 95 percenters had their virginity taken by their eventual husbands
>>536207227you have never seen a vagina bud, it’s practically tattooed on your forehead >>536207266Its true, sorry this hurts your feelings though >>536207287Women make 80% of household purchases, if you think $189 twice a week ($15k/year) is expensive then you honestly cannot afford a wife and family
>>536204212Young white men: look to small towns for a nice country girl. And don't tell me they don't exist. I married one 23 years ago (still happily married) and I have two teenage daughters of my own that were homeschooled by my wife and raised on good values. Don't let the media, influencers, trends, or bitter people persuade you that being in a loving, committed relationship isn't obtainable. I won't disagree that money makes things easier in life, but the first date my wife and I went on only cost us both gas money. We walked around a park at night looking at Christmas lights while we got to know one another. After, we took a drive in my truck to my favorite fishing spot. I made her laugh by throwing rocks across the frozen lake so she could hear the noise it causes. We connected. We didn't just go through the motions of dating at a superficial level. That takes two, I realize. Make good choices and realize when you're with a good woman versus one that's using you for an expensive meal or a good time.
>>536207114You're there to find a permanent girl that speaks English you can go out in public with and introduce to your family, not fuck low budget spic hookers unless of course you are a spic
>>536207397Back in reality, that is not true. Though bar flys/club girls will likely do so, they are maybe 1-2% of women overall
>>536204212>>536204352>more and more men are dropping out>let's just raise and raise the barok this will end well for everyone
>>536207478Ok, name the small towns
>>536207290I hope you don't cheat on your taxes because the IRS would wreck you with trailing digit analysis. Look man, I'm not saying don't spend money on women. I've spent a fuckload. I personally like adorning then with diamonds and gold, even some I didn't take that seriously. Women go absolutely apeshit when you hand them a diamond ring, and it's really not that expensive. I also like eating out with them. But only AFTER, because those things have literally zero bearing in the way you think they do. Go ahead, call me a virgin. By the way, if you go down on a girl who has pissed recently, that little tang you taste is piss, no matter how well she wipes. And a clean asshole tastes salty.
>>536204352>>536205257They're paying extra for what amounts to cheap, unskilled prostitutes who probably won't even fuck. honk honk
>>536207485>they are maybe 1-2% of women overallIf you're actually considering quite literally all women from 18-100+, then you're closer to correct.If you're actually considering all women 18-30, you're further off.If you're discounting the fact that a large percentage of those women go through this "phase" where they're absolute whores for a good chunk of their youth, then it makes more sense.Saying it's 1-2% of all women is taking into account women that are married, women in relationships, and women that haven't had a period in half a century. Those women don't count or matter.Fact is, most young, single women have absolutely no issue being complete and utter whores. You have your religious ones, or just ones raised right sprinkled here and there, but if you think 1-2% of young, single women wouldn't happily get fucked by Chad at the drop of a hat with no date, you're simply out of touch.
>>536207588brother, you are a virgin, you have never even been on date with a woman. Your fan fictions are extremely embarrassing haha
>>536207703Gen z women are having less sex than any generation in recorded history, this is a fact not open for debate. Your average zoomer girl is less of a slut than your grandmother
>>536204458>a playwtf lol
>>536204671No, it has been the normal for the last 40 year or so?But of course it used to be a lot cheaper, you can thank Putin, Trump and the Greens for that.
>>536204458>>536204352I have NEVER spent 189 dollars on a date. The most expensive date I ever took a woman on was to a haunted house and I spent 150 bucks between tickets, sideshow games, and food afterward, and that was because I wanted to splurge because it was a nice night and we'd already been dating for a while. I spent 90 bucks a couple times on nice-ish dinners but no alcohol. Other than that, 50 to 60 bucks is about what a "date" costs and they have been as cheap as 15 to 30 dollars. You guys are beyond retarded and need to stop falling for these jewish pysops.
>>536207480You will not find a "permanent girl" in a Miami nightclub. Those women moved to Miami to shack up with the highest bidder and aspire to be in a Saudi harem, not pregnant and barefoot in a mid-Atlantic modern farmhouse.>t. Floridian
>>536207791In america we have things like broadway that everyone goes to. I understand this is different to understand as someone from a country that is only 30 years ago and has no culture yet>>536207854If you didnt have breakfast today, how would you feel?
>>536206435>83% of women eventually have children sportDo you understand how this stat is formulated? It necessarily means the women were born in the '70s to now be menopausal ('ever have children').The stat for gen z and alpha women will be very low.
>>536207417People were spamming "maxxing" on /r9k/ and /fit/ in like 2012 dude, there are literally public archives with a search function
>>536206812You're describing dates for 40 year old people. Young people have energy, grandpa. They like being social. Art gallery, yes. Gay musical, no. >>536206271>Your average girl will only sleep with a guy after a few months/weeks of dating and only have 2-3 partners in their entire livesOk, you're trolling.
>>536208034no, it wont. Most women will still eventually have children even if the average age goes up slightly. Its a basic human desire you can only ignore for so long
>>536207430>$189 twice a week ($15k/year)That's almost 20k, not 15k
>>536208133I get that mexico’s only culture is drugs and killing each other but you have to understand that your failed brown state is actually a rarity and not what people around the western world experience
>>536204417whatever bro, if you aren't gonna ghadaffi maxx, that's just more tang for the the rest of us
The first place I ever took my girlfriend was the walking trail by the river. Its free. Keep that one in mind anons.
>>536207430The average person (not just women) will lose their virginity to the right person behind the bleachers at school if left unchecked. This is actually a huge component of what major world religions are designed to mitigate. You presenting the idea that the average girl is waiting months to sleep with someone makes me think you're trolling, or that you're just very disconnected from reality.
>>536208011>If you didnt have breakfast today, how would you feel?Are you a fucking bot? I can obviously imagine how other people would spend a lot of money on a date. Those people ARE RETARDS. You do NOT take a girl out to some supernice dinner on the first date. Fuck, I even stopped taking girls to Olive Garden for a first date. First date is drinks or coffee. If she doesn't like that, she doesn't like you. If there is ANY bitchiness or demands from a woman early on, it will only get worse. And you are not getting that pussy. At least not without way more effort than it is worth.Stop referring to me like a nigger using memes that don't even apply to this situation.
>>536207869>MiamiMay as well be every woman from Miami-Dade to Palm Beach at this point.Too much fucking money moving down here spoiling everything
>>536208243You arent going to go kn two dates every week bud. Regardless, the average American makes $90k/year and can easily afford $15k for dates
I can't believe the price of Roofies is that high
>>536204985Live near the border nigger its cheaper and the woman are just as hot as thr climate. In bumfuck the middle of nowhere the hottest ones are 300 or 500
>>536208285Your average person will actually lose their virginity after prom in a hotel>>536208290haha nigger detected
>>536208261bla bla bla some Mexico insults. You're talking nonsense about dates.
>>536208011>If you didnt have breakfast today, how would you feel?Not the person you're addressing, but I understand the reference. I had someone ask me to name the small towns where good, white women are, but I'm hesitant to give details out of fear brown people will take note and ruin what few good places we have remaining.
>>536208164TFR is sub-replacement and the decline is repeatedly beating projections to the low side, so it is very low already.
>>536208315Literally every major city in Florida has been ruined by fucking snowbirds and their trust fund grandchildren. This state is unrecognizable from what it was just a couple of decades ago. The east coast is a concrete hellscape and the west coast is following suit. We need to offer more sacrifices to the Brightline to quell the anger of the swamp gods
>>536204352And most of the time these zoomer losers don't even get pussy, they pay for the date and then the chicks ditches them and goes and laughs about the free meal with her friends kek. My sister in law is 24 and makes fun of the guys she dates, it's extremely whorish behavior the even my wife think she's a low life and has stopped talking to her as much. we both agree she's going to end up murdered by some frustrated dude one day. It's a fucked up generation.
>>536207869Yes there is those girls there too but it's very obvious who they are just by looking at them as they're in a super whore outfit or are "influencers". That's why you don't go to clubs or some crypto bullshit event of which I did also go while there and it was literally trashy IRL streamer guys who are pimping out girls on OF they get these girls coming out with them on stream then that girl pays them a percentage of OF revenue. Saw none of that shit at Tikis
>>536206435it's easier to call you a retard and move on than bite the bait any further
>>536208340>You arent going to go kn two dates every week bud>>$189 twice a week ($15k/year)That's literally what you said, you larping faggot.
>>536208493It's time for Jonny Appleseed, except with Kudzu Seeds, to enter the fight
>>536204458>A typical date will involve a dinner with a bottle of wine, then a play or movie or something, followed up by drinks at a bar if all goes well.LOL no, WTF that's the kind of thing you might do with an actual serious LTR girlfriend or wife, occasionally as a treat or for a special occasion.If you are dead set on being a beta simp sucker, at least skip the several hours of doing things that will make her less likely to fuck you and skip straight to the getting drinks at a bar part.
It's more accurate to say that about half of women will have one child, singular. Not 'most women will have children'. They simply are not having children on anything like the level they should be. Some developed countries are below 1.0 TFR.
>>536207124Yeah, kiddo. If it makes you feel good or special, I can be a virgin. Don't care. Sex is special only for virgin or impotent. Millions are fucking right now. Go fuck, stop bragging on 4chan.
>>536208409>lose their virginity after prom in a hotelDo you live in a romantic comedy? Or a teen coming of age movie?
keep in mind this is men rejecting women demanding fucktons of money.
Judeo-feminism kills civilisation in three generations.
>>536208414mexico is a failed state, your opinions on anything including dates is irrelevant >>536208471The average white american woman has 1.6 children. The average asian woman is 1.1. The average is still over 1 each, meaning every woman still has a child eventually >>536208460Brown people and incels give themselves away so easily because they do not know even basic things
>>536208493Fully agree, grew up in Florida but left for the north west when i was 18. 35 now and went back to visit old friends and the amount of fucking north eastern accents on everyone was fucking awful. Just a bunch of new england trash everywhere acting like new england trash and fuck that amount of jew there now is insane. Couldn't go anywhere without hordes of old ass jersey, new york, Massachusetts idiots surrounding you shitting it up.
>>536208493IKR, these fuckhead carpetbaggers nees to go home
>>536208542dont let the door hit your ass on the way out>>536208608you are a virgin and have never been on a date, it’s practically tattooed on your forehead its so obvious >>536208624You simply are regardless >>536208625it’s the truth, most people do not lose their virginity behind the bleachers but either in their childhood bed or a hotel room. This is a fact and not open for debate
>>536208702You think these shitbags could at least bring their 18-24 year old granddaughters too
>>536208531Listen, you fucking Canuck, I am a born and raised Florida Man and I can tell you with absolute certainty that NOBODY is wifing up anyone they met at a Miami bar with any success. If it's such an effective strategy, where the fuck is your wife? While you're posting that proof, go ahead and post the in-store prices as well. Stop fucking coming down here and clogging our highways. I spit on every car with an Ontario license plate and make sure to stay hydrated because I see them every day.
>>536204212That's fucking ridiculous. Not worth it, not worth it at all.
>>536207290>40% of women are still virgins for their husbands, though only 5% on the wedding night. 2 and 3 round out 80% of all marriages.You are insanely delusional. Literally no one in any western country in 2026 is waiting for marriage to lose their virginity, other than (some) members of extremely weird religious communities.Zoomettes are more likely to be virgins than Gen X or Millennial roasties at the same age, but that's really only a factor in their teens. By their early 20s, the number of girls who are still virgins has become statistically non-existent.
>>536207854>I have never spent 189 on a date Me either. I think the most I ever spent was like 60 bucks at Buffalo Wild Wings. I'm a cheap son of a bitch, I'd rather just take her to my house, smoke some weed and watch Netflix until I get laid. It can and has worked for me more than once. The walking trail also got me a blowjob, for the record.
>>536204212if you cant get women to pay for your date you re simply ugly
>>536208955It's something like 5% are still virgins by the age of 18 in the total female population... it's freaky that this debate which was settled HERE like 20 years ago gets these kinds of replies. I think he's just trolling. Who would spend time typing out false stats instead of pulling from their folder full of charts and graphs?
>>5362089555% are virgins on their wedding night, but an additional 35% of women are single partner non virgins, meaning they only have had sex with their husbands, just before marriage. The next two largest categories are 2 and 3 partners, taking you up to 80% of all girls on their wedding night, so highschool and college boyfriend (if they didnt marry college boyfriend). 95% of sex happens inside relationships, the vast majority of women are not sleeping with random men they just met. These are facts and not open for debate
>>536204212Why are boomers so concerned about zoomers dating and slang?
>>536207478>look to small towns for a nice country girl. LOL no. All of the nice small town country girls get married right after high school to her high school sweetheart guy from the same small town who she has known for basically her entire life whose family is close with her family. Those girls are going to have zero interest in some random city fag.And the kinds of small town girls who would be interested in an outsider are all either trying to figure out how to get out of the small town to move to an exciting big city so they can be a turboslut, or are the trashy small town girls who have been fucking niggers and/or White trash meth rednecks since they were 14 and probably already have at least one kid.It's basically the same scenario that you would find if you tried to get a girl from some insular conservative religious community.
>>536209288Millennials got too old to bitch about, just like Gen X got too old to bitch about. Half of the kids that boomers are complaining about are actually Gen Alpha, but they made the same mistake with Millennials
>>536209288Did you miss the bait image posted in the OP? The media tells people what to think and they think it. There is no great generational debate happening on 4chan or TikTok, just top-down memes which are ignored by anyone who isn't retarded, with little nuggets of truth here and there. It's been a constant thing since social media was new. Old gen X women ranting about millennials because they read too many Facebook memes, etc...
>>536204417Bro is questionmaxxing
>>536209039The musings of a low quality male. Where are your standards? Smoking weed and acting like a common whore isn't something to pride yourself on.
>>536209288More tax payers to pay for social security and other free shit
>>536209488>Standards I have none and don't give a fuck to have any. If it works it works, and believe me it does.
>>536209441Are you saying this from experience?
>>536209441Shits so fucked honestly
>>536208934Still with the same chick and she's mogging all the tattooed hairy feminists on the street here and freaky girls with balloon lips and injections I was more shocked such a place on earth even existed in how easy it is to pull some top European descent girls good luck finding that here. Go yourself if you don't believe me
>>536204458Very single.We'll play tennis or racquetballand if she says she is bringing a change of clothes we can go back to my place for a shower.She can change into her new set of clothes tomorrow morning.We're fucking.Then im making her and myself a good dinner so we can continue fucking all night.She'll be up until 5:35am when she has work at 7:30am.I love doing that to women.Every single one has come back for more.Too old to date now.But that is how it use to be pre 2020.
>>536208034>The stat for gen z and alpha women will be very low.83% IS the stat for Gen Z and Alpha women. You don't have to wait until they are all menopausal to see the trends and make accurate predictions about how many of them will have had kids by the time they are 45 or so.Especially since those numbers have been extremely stable for well over 25 years, and there is nothing to suggest that those statistics will change significantly in the foreseeable future.
>>536204417it's just normies discovered /fit/'s slang from a decade ago.
>>536209620I have been exactly where you are advising and seen oofie doofies do the same thing you recommended with no success. You are so out of touch with reality that I sincerely hope you do not trick some poor anon into making the same mistake that I see normalfags make every time I go to Miami
>>536204522this nigga thinks Appbee's is a nice restaurant.This nigga sneaks beans into the theater instead of buying them at the counter like everyone else.Tell us what nice restaurant you're thinking of.
>>536204352Bro that's my average night out for myself. If I'm taking someone out it's gonna be like 300-400Dinner alone is gonna be 1501 drink per person 12 bucks minimum, so 24Appitizer is gonna run like 20 bucks Main course is gonna be like 50 bucks each so 100Then desert for each is gonna be another 12, coffee as well is gonna be another like 8. So that's already you are looking at 150+ and that's just dinner not counting tip. Then you gotta account for a ride if you are not taking your own car so easy another 30-40 bucks there. Then you just can't NOT do something other then just dinner, so if it's a show that's gonna run you anywhere from 75-150 depending on the show/event Granted this is all dating in your 30s where the expectations are higher but yeah, dating in your 30s is fucking expensive dude
>>536204212women want equality except when it comes for paying for shit.
>>536204458You meet a girl at a party or wherever for free, talk to her a little and then tell her she's your girlfriend. It's all free.
>>536209898Or getting laid the sameOr getting treated the sameIt's like they don't want equality, that they want superiority.
>>536204352For real. First dates are coffee. Alwasy coffee. Any whore who has a problem with that isn't worth your time.
>>536209791>This nigga sneaks beans into the theater instead of buying them at the counter like everyone else.It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out.
>>536209543Perhaps I pity you because you seem to be the same age as my own kids, but I hope you change your mind one day and value yourself more than your urges. Some men are so quick to criticize women for their shortcomings, but refuse to hold their own to higher standards. Too many of you embrace a degenerate lifestyle and have no class, culture, strength, or intelligence.
>>536209801>If I'm taking someone out it's gonna be like 300-400>Dinner alone is gonna be 150>1 drink per person 12 bucks minimum, so 24>Appitizer is gonna run like 20 bucks>Main course is gonna be like 50 bucks each so 100>Then desert for each is gonna be another 12, coffee as well is gonna be another like 8.>So that's already you are looking at 150+ and that's just dinner not counting tip.>Then you gotta account for a ride if you are not taking your own car so easy another 30-40 bucks there.>Then you just can't NOT do something other then just dinner, so if it's a show that's gonna run you anywhere from 75-150 depending on the show/event>>536209801You actually spend that much on a date? All I have to do is take the same bitch you spend like 300$ on for drinks at the cheapest place I know. 20$ max followed by sex in my car in the parking lot. You must be pretty ugly.
>>536210178Hahaha, look man I was taught as a kid "don't dent your wallet for some pussy" and that hasn't failed me so Im going to keep rolling with it, but I've been with the same girl for quite a while now so it worked to the point that I got one that stuck with me. I grew up in the trailer park anon, we don't spend a lot of money for anyone.
>>536209772Yeah well those are simps who chase the obvious pros I saw them there too. We have countless pros here too all looking for some real estate scammer to pay for their lifestyle these girls are easy to avoid
>>536210288Look at your flag dumbass, beach dates are practially free and someone is going to playing steel drums somewhere
>>536204212The way things are going, soon they should adjust to become very happy for receiving a mere merc dime.
>>536204352You can get an hour long convo talking about video games and astrology, drinks, and a 15 min vip room with a 10/10 rocket for this price.
>i can't afford to fuckbut you don't pay for whores, right?>i can't afford to date so I can fuckso you do pay for whores?topkek
>be me, 30's, on road trip across US>start dating zoomer chick met online (not dating app), turns out I'm planning on being in her area in a couple of months>we hit it off, she flies out, pay about half to be nice, let her pay for things to preserve dignity and avoid taking things too fast or ending up with gold digger>plans on being with me a week, goes home two weeks later>land in her area a month later, rent a place at a nearby coastal resort town>now paying for everything >she visits every week for a month, spends most of the week, things start great but as time goes on she is causing more problems seemingly intentionally and making more demands, has more expectations, creating drama>meanwhile I am literally just sipping beer on the beach in the sun. There's nothing to fight about at all>now week 6 and she's hardly making the effort to make the short drive here, to stay and eat for free and chill on the beach I don't get it. She does things that intentionally create mayhem and then denies it, says it was an accident etc. I dated a BPD chick once and that was unhinged levels of insane - explosive physical violence, Stasi level manipulation and mindgames - and while this isn't much like that in terms of intensity, her patterns of behavior are similar sometimes. It's like she has some kind of gentle form of it. Pretty sure she tried to convince me to swim out too far (after I told her that I'm not a strong swimmer) and then when that failed she pretended she accidentally went too far so she could harangue me for not jumping in to save her. I had to explain that I was taught that the only way to save a drowning person in the ocean reliably without drowning yourself is with a floatation device Most recently she created drama using her sister and then, as seems to be a pattern with her, flipped that around and started fussing about how I haven't committed yet and how were not breaking up because we were never dating (huh?) because I didn't "ask her out"
>>536210582>Look at your flag dumbass, beach dates are practially free and someone is going to playing steel drums somewhereWomen are universal anywhere you go. I have traveled, and regardless of culture, ethnicity, religion etc. The patterns are all the same. If she has genuine interest in you, it doesn't take much...as opposed to someone who has to lead with their wallet. You literally have to pay to play.
>>536210288Bro I spend that much on an average night out if I'm gonna go out and do something.Drinks alone are gonna end up totaling like 5040-50 bucks considering that your average cocktail or glass of whiskey is gonna run your about 15-17 bucks a drink after tip. So I mean 3 drinks I'm up to 45 bucksIf I get dinner it's gonna be about 75-100 for just me alone because if I'm going out I'm going to go get something I can't normally get at home which means appitizer desert and main course. Shit is fucking expensive dude. Any more I find it better to just go to a casino throw 150 on 10 dollar tables or 15 dollar tables and just work to get free drinks all night.
>>536210828I had to cut a lot of this out for the character limit but basically>she comes on strong at first, gives me a lot of attention and time>seems to be checking out even though I've shown her through actions that I'm more committed/investedI don't get it. I consider myself decent looking and I have some things to offer. It's this weird push-pull thing which is why I say it feels like BPD.Any bros have experience with this?
>>536204212The more you're willing to pay to take out the increasingly shittiest version of females in history, the less likely it is you harbor characteristics that would make you a masculine man. Put another way, only the gayest effeminate faggots are still doing this and the last one doing it will be the gayest, most effeminate, of all the faggots.
>>536210395I'm genuinely happy you found someone that is interested in you and not what you can buy them. You'll have gained some insight from being raised in a trailer park, but do better for yourself where you can. Don't rot your brain smoking a lot of weed. Do good things with your life, anon. I sincerely wish you well.
>>536209801>Bro that's my average night out for myself.Are you a great big fat person? >Then you just can't NOT do something other then just dinnerYou don't even need to do dinner, chief. The last time I went on a dinner date with a girl was during covid, and that was only because it was during the phase of lockdowns where bars were still officially closed, but you could go to restaurants and sit at a table and drink and get food.>dating in your 30s is fucking expensive dudeNo, you are just doing it wrong. A few months ago I fucked a smoking hot 19 year old. I was in a bar having some drinks and playing darts with a couple of friends. She saw I had a box of pizza and approached me and asked if she could have a slice. I gave her a slice and we started talking and hit it off. She tried to act like she was older than she really was, but I could tell she was younger. Ended up going back to my place and fucking all night. It wasn't even my pizza, it was just some other rando's leftovers that they left at the bar.
>>536210988>I had to cut a lot of this out for the character limit but basically>>she comes on strong at first, gives me a lot of attention and time>>seems to be checking out even though I've shown her through actions that I'm more committed/invested>I don't get it. I consider myself decent looking and I have some things to offer. It's this weird push-pull thing which is why I say it feels like BPD.>Any bros have experience with this?Start treating her with sheer indifference and watch the magic happen. Get another GF on the DL>>536210937>Bro I spend that much on an average night out if I'm gonna go out and do somethingIt's fucking expensive over there. Actually anywhere you go. I guess the good thing about where I am is that you can be frugal and find some cheap spots if you know where to look.
>>536211187>>536211076>>536210937What do you guys think about >>536210828>>536210988
>>536209667No it isn't, and yes there is.
>>536204212I can't believe kids in America think this is necessary. Going out on a date here you would never spend more than 50 bucks an evening > INB4 we don't do that in GermanyFuck off and die, Americans
>>536204212>muh date costsDate at church is free Zoomniggers
Arranged marriages chad are winning.
>>536211238I started with indifference (romantically) - we were "friends" - and that's when she came to see me and made time to continue seeing me. It has only gotten worse as I've acquiesced to her shit. It's not logical at all--you fly out to fuck someone you barely know and then lose interest after spending too much time sipping margaritas on the beach?I'm not desperate for love but I lost all of my old friends after a breakup/life events and I'd like to rebuild and have people in my life, and I can't stand these women-games
>>536211076>Wish you wellThanks, you too.
>>536204352My first date with my wife was at the historic steam railroad we both volunteered at (and met through). She brought homemade bread, and this Finnish drink called sima, a sort of low alcohol lemonade that she also made.I brought a tabletop charcoal grill and a couple burger patties and cheese. We picked up a couple tomatoes and such on the way.We sat on this rise where you could see the trains coming and going, but also the birds at the nearby wildlife refuge. We never understood the whole "dinner and wine and movie and theatre and gold plated event you'll forget tomorrow" gig. Of course we each were saving separately for a someday house down payment...and when we tied the knot that fund doubled. Actually she had more than I did b/c a relative she'd cared for for years had left her an inheritance that wasn't big but really helped. We still had to wait till our early 40s to find the right place. But it all worked out. "Dating" per this clickbait is slave chains for spendy consoomer idiots. Just don't do it is all.
>>536204522> socializing with opposite sex involves eating> GEE HOW COME EVERYBODY'S SO FATMaybe make a shared experience out of something other than stuffing your face?Make/build something? Invent something? Read aloud? Go watch animals? Work together on a friend's farm? Walk? Play instruments???
>>536211489>WE never understood>OUR opinion is...My experience is that men who talk about their relationships like this are wifeguy types, with someone who either has them wrapped around her finger or who is herself a kind of husbandgirl (depends on her family I think). This kind of experience isn't really generalizable to casual dating anons are talking about ITT
>>536204352Where are you taking her back to, your parents home? You need a hotel room.
>>536211465You have a few options. The easiest of which is to drop her because vocalizing your thoughts rarely work with women. And what's even the point of being with someone who no longer has affection for you.If for whatever reason you don't want to end things(you should, because it's a one sided relationship); back off your efforts to 50%. get busier with work and hobbies and limit your time/availability to her. She will eventually come back around. But still don't fall for it. Just drop her, because you'll be pulled back into a repetitive fruitless cycle eventually leading you to emptiness and depression.
>>536204212"Dating" is a Jewish concept. "Dating" wasn't even a thing 100 years ago. You married a girl from your village who you grew up with your whole life or either your parents BOUGHT a girl from the village for arranged marriage and FORCED her to marry you.
>>536205311Pretty much indicates their stupidity, no?Interesting and intelligent people have more to do than stuff their faces while paying someone else to do it.
>>536211295No, you are just wrong. There is plenty of solid, reliable data and it all shows that even today approximately half of women will have had at least one kid by the time they are 30, and 80-85% of them will have by the time they turn 45. Those numbers have decreased from their all time highs, but that happened several decades ago when effective birth control became widely available and has been very stable since then. Fewer women today are having kids than in the past, but that's primarily because virtually all fertile women had kids in the pre-birth control era, and now it's just the vast majority of them.
>>536211705>FORCED her to marry you.arranged marriages were not 'forced' no more than a woman is 'forced' to circumcise her child.women are easy to control with customs/consensus
>>536211681I don't really have hobbies and I'm taking time off of work. I'm between sets right now and then I'm headed to the beach. In my mid-30's and without a regular 9-5 or school or other group hobby type settings, I really don't meet many people, and I've been put off from dating apps which I never liked much to begin with.The thing here is that I was settling to some degree already, which is to say that she has flaws I overlooked and I think those outweigh mine. So I'm surprised that she's already checked out. I'm white, relatively fit, travel, some savings, wfh, really clear signals that im open to commitment and something long term oif im treated well... she is none of these. It makes me feel like i don't understand the rules of the game at all
>>536211489Younger anons: read this and abide by it. This gentleman and I do come from a different generation, but yours can take the better parts of ours and force change. Don't play by these new rules. You're already pushing back on what they've done to gaming (micro transactions, never owning your games, etc), push back on this to. It doesn't have to be the standard. Stop "maxxing" and being brainwashed by people who want to control you and keep you lonely and miserable.
>>536204212For $250 AUD ($179 in freedumdollars) you can hire an escort or a dominatrix for an hour, either way you get to cum at the end.Women demanding expensive dinner dates when they themselves aren't top models is absolutely insane. The issue is there's no shortage loser simps who enable this behavior by leading with their wallet and treat dating like it's findom.(You) pay for her meals while getting nothing, she still fucks the guy she likes for free.
>>536204212do goyim really
The most fun date I had was going to a museum with a woman, then she suggested we check out another museum afterwards and then I asked her if she wanted to eat. So we got some paella because we were in Spain and we both never tried it.After eating we just sat down in a park and then we kissed, it was probably the most passionate kiss in my entire life.Didn't cost me more than 50 euros that day and she treated me to sushi by surprise later that week.
>>536211657No, I was a total stupid ass horndog at the time, starting with my first time--a whore, while in the USN. In port. In northern Italy. (Took the train up there.)I was also this train geek railfan nerd. But I'd plowed my way through women, and by 30 hated myself for it. We had to have an understanding around all that as we got closer. It really hurt to share all that with her. It took longer for her to trust me as a result. And then I went and fucked up, and nearly lost her. "Casual dating" is total kikery designed to keep men and women from the sacred deep bond of marriage. If I could, I'd go back and erase all the casual shit that I used to brag about with my friends, most of whom ended up sad sack solos. After her and my first solo shared time at the museum that I described, I felt a sense of sad hopelessness like nothing before or since, except her death. I wasted myself on my dick because people around me spurred me to hate myself and hate women. I was beyond stupid and degenerate. And the thing is, at that time about 60% of my circle was jews. I didn't realize it till much later.She awoke me to that. She awoke me to how jews drive whites to dysgenic degenerate sex. Zoomers today have brains structured by jewmedia, same thing.
>$189 for a date>1 million for a house>every man having to compete with slutty chads on dating apps>women prioritizing education and lazy girl adult daycare jobs over children>women making more money than men but refusing to date men who make less money>cost of a car and car insurance too high for young men and women won't date a man without a car>modern zoning bylaws have eliminated neighorhood third spaces where people naturally socialized with other locals for millenia, to force us to drive to a commercially zoned district chain business where we won't talk to anyone because we don't recognize them as neighboursgee i wonder why birth rates are collapsingnothing will be done about any of this either, we'll just collapse as a species due to jews and boomerworld
>>536207012I've been to Kiki on the river you're right those waitresses have giant tits.
>>536206325>>536204985facts. americans are perhaps the most pussy whipped cuckolds on the planet, only possibly second to britcucks
>>536204212Demoralization threadSpending that much on a date is probably only a thing in big relevant cities where their poll numbers were taken. You have to put in effort to spend $189 on a date anywhere else in America. This pic makes it sound like they are spending that much for every date.>>536204417Cause of le memes>>536207414This
>>536207227That guy must be from NYC or something because very few places in America involve that kind of date night.
>>536211980If you don't have hobbies, now is a good time to explore something new. >>536211980>I'm white, relatively fit, travel, some savings, wfh, really clear signals that im open to commitment and something long term oif im treated well...Unfortunately women don't function as well on this basis as opposed to the 'fun' factor. Get fitter. tighten up on your nutrition and meet different women. You don' have to do it on dating apps. I've met tons of girls via IG posting. And posted nothing but fitness content. IG is actually better, anyways. >>536211980>It makes me feel like i don't understand the rules of the game at allRead The Rational Male
>>536204212Look how disengenous the news is, they make 0 mention of how its MEN who are paying for those dates. Women are NOT dropping 189 for a date or even half that. >>536206325Real we need to do what the Netherlands does>>536204458Humiliation ritual sex robots and hookers when?
>>536210988She was interested in you when you didn't seem overly interested or desperate or invested in her. I'm guessing she's probably the kind of girl who constantly has a bunch of thirsty friendzoned orbiters buzzing around her. Was she an "ugly-duckling" type girl who didn't get much attention from guys when younger but then got better looking?Your attention seemed much more valuable and desirable because you weren't just dumping it on her for free.>seems to be checking out even though I've shown her through actions that I'm more committed/investedShe has completely lost interest in you because she has won the game. You were intriguing and desirable when you seemed like a challenge, but now you are just another guy in her Pokedex.
Ameribros please don't spend $200 on some dumb fucking whore. I wouldn't cross the street for pussy unless the woman deserves it (they don't)
the demoralization is working
>>536212606I got a friend who's in his 60s and still manages to fuck women half his age by getting them drunk on a farm and letting them pet the cows. I swear to God. It's a lot easier than people here seem to think.
>>536207869I read a post on r/Miami about some giga rich autist who made millions on bitcoin and he went on a date with some cubana and he took her on a giant shopping spree (Birkin bag, Cartier tennis bracelet, some other shit) then she wanted to go to some fancy $500/plate restaurant, then at the end of the night he said she just laid naked unenthusiastically in a starfish position while he fucked her. I was laughing so hard. He spent like 20k that night for some immigrant pussy then she ghosted him after that.
>>536212454Could I be more fit? Absolutely, since I'm mainly coasting on lifting gains from my 20's. But my diet is dialed in and I have an active lifestyle; I'm slim, have visible abs, etc. I could bring it up a notch by getting back into a mild strength training routine but that's not compatible with traveling.I remember Tomassi and the other 'red pill' manosphere guys from that era and I had that phase in my life already. I was in an LTR at the time and those ideas helped me to do a post mortem, especially once I learned what doesn't work or how those ideas do and do not fit into a real relationship. As far as "fun" goes, that's my hangup--if a 30-something woman who takes care of herself wanted to host me, fuck me, and bankroll our month-long tropical vacation, I'd be pretty happy and I can't think of much more fun than that. So why is this chick bored alreadyI just want someone who can sit still and eventually be my wife without becoming neurotic, starting to seem like that's not possible. I should've gotten a girl pregnant in high school bro, I am too innocent for this world
>>536204212>This one will for sure bring us up past replacement rate.I blame the kikes for destroying the femoids.
>>536204352You have no idea what a somewhat attractive escort costs or have no standards if you think $200 gets you anything
>>536208702I remember seeing some jew boomer driving a Corvette with a license plate holder that said "Support Israel" I just started laughing.This was like 15 years ago, I'm sure Florida is a lot more jewish now.
>>536212829If a woman won't see you without meeting you at neutral ground with a meal attached to it you're already fighting a disadvantageous battle.>But a-a-anon, men are creeps so women won't want to meet in private before 8 dates and $2600 spentMeanwhile they'll routinely crawl through miles of broken glass and abandon their children to hang out with chad wherever he lives. Men are in such a cucked headspace and it's all because of jewywood
>>536212549Lol i think you nailed it but this shit pisses me off. Maybe im not as much of a catxh as I was in my 20's, but I have a lot to offer compared to aome of the women I've tried settling for (always a mistake so far). I'm capable of being alone, stoic, whatever but I'm just tired of these games. I can't not try because that's defeatist and might cost me opportunities, but I also can't do this wu shu flow like water bullshit forever either. How do the guys who homestead get and KEEP wives without them getting bored?
>>536209441Sad but true. Small towns are full of single mothers.
>>536212911>I just want someone who can sit still and eventually be my wife without becoming neurotic, starting to seem like that's not possible.It's honestly a pretty rough market out there senpai. And your experience is not at all unique. Women are pretty busted from a lifetime of propaganda and peer pressure from their whore friends. If your bitch is giving you this much shit, and you aren't even engaged or maried; call it a wrap. Lick your wounds, go back to the drawing board and roll the dice again.
>>536210849Is it true that Jamaican men don't eat pum pum?
>>536213138Is a single mother ever worth it? Can any experienced anons chime in?
>>536206046Piss, sweat and blood if you’re lucky.
>>536212911>I just want someone who can sit still and eventually be my wife without becoming neurotic,So you let other men, who you never even met, men on the internet (assuming they were all men--I sometimes wondered), talk you into becoming a fuckaddict--them deliberately undercutting your deepest hope of being a husband and father for their own reasons--and now you wonder why a woman would feel restless in your presence? Or "become neurotic" in it?> I am too innocent for this worldI'm surprised they don't set you on fire before fleeing.
>>536204417It literally originated from here with the ironic vaxmaxxing and zoomers took it and ran with it KEK
>>536213366>raising another man's abandoned progeny with a used ford focus of a mother >is it ever worth it????bro
>>536213366Nah, because she will still be fucking the baby daddy every now and then. I have multiple friends who created single mothers who have new boyfriends and every one of them still fucks the kids mother every few months. I'd say the only way to safely date a single mother is if the kid's father is deceased, even then it's not really worth it.
>>536204458Normies aren't human.
>>536204889>I think having a not giving a fuck attitude goes farWhy/how do you pursue intimate relations with women if you simultaneously don’t give a fuck? To me not giving a fuck looks like not interacting with women because they’re boring.
>>536213497Are you talking about the manosphere stuff? That kind of content has existed for ages, I just think there are some decent/practical gems that came out of that period. But I'm not naturally geared for 'spinning plates' - it's not intuitive to me - but that does work as Jamaicanon is suggesting. Where I'm stuck personally is that this entire game could be avoided if two people could just sit down and agree on a lifestyle that they'd like to share togetherAt this stage my backup plan is to literally pay some third world women like $10k each to let me get them pregnant and then just hope for the best
>>536204500you do realise that the majority of those terms came from here, right? the majority of the buzzwords you're seeing used by kids was invented by random oldfags back in the golden days of the 'chan.
>>536213679>this entire game could be avoided if two people could just sit down and agree on a lifestyle that they'd like to share togetherThat's just not how women work anon.
>(ID: 6XOwtE2J)Kill yourself. You are such a fucking SIMP. Is this you?
>>536204985>escorts worth their salt
>>536204212how will wymin cope?
>>536206271you are a retard
>>536213759What I've been trying to do is show them,>if you stick with me, this is how your life will bewithout spending lavishly on trinkets as >>536212888 (checked) describesBut the result is this >>536212549
>>536207430I dont want a wife and family, I want pussy, and I never had to pay for it either. But now I am so tired of the humiliation ritual and song and dance of "dating" that I really just bang sex toys all the time and plan on banging a hooker for the first time soon.
>>536213135>I'm just tired of these gamestime to twinkmaxx, anon. video games, but no emotional games. sex isn't held out depending on what you give them. understands you with a logical mind.
>>536204212>2026 >Avg date cost: $10,000,000 >2025 >Avg date cost: $6,000,000 I'm not paying more than $5 for any date sorry not sorry
>>536214151There are even fewer decent "twinks" than decent women. And they're all tall with huge cocks. Twinks are always lanklets. Gross
>>536214050>if you stick with me, this is how your life will beWhy? You should reverse that and think "If I stick with you, what will my life be?". Women quite literally aren't the prize, why should you try to coax someone who's worse than you in 9.5/10 scenarios that you're the guy that deserves to be with her? You're putting yourself at a disadvantage and you're most likely just gonna get used and abused once a sociopathic woman gets a hold of you.>I must chase, I must provide, I mus-Women love to chase their men, they love the challenge and they absolutely treat you better if they think you like them less than they like you. Don't become some psycho's husband that breaks his back for her while she steps out on him with other men. Put yourself first bro.
>>536204500it is RPG though
>>536205257
>datingIs there something wrong with me or is that the gayest thing ever?
>>536214161I'm still with tom leykis mentality, never spend more than $40 on a date, dating means fucking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpHRWHfE9Sg
>>536213679> this entire game could be avoided if two people could just sit down and agree on a lifestyle that they'd like to share togetherThis holds in my experience. Thing is I never realized how much i wanted what we had till I did...then I immediately tried to destroy us. She worked hard to get us over the crisis that I inflicted at the most devious moment. I fought her the whole way. Then one night I was out on my bike in the mts west of Silicon Valley, and there was this hairpin turn where you could come out of it fast and go over the edge, and down like 300 feet to the rocks and sea. I stopped there and looked down, smelling the sea, and realized that I'd fallen in love with death at some point, and had a choice. I asked her, years later, why she worked so hard to save us, and indirectly me, from my stupidity, violence, and cruelty. She said simply, "I was afraid for your soul." I said I was going out to split firewood then. In the wood tent I sat down with the Gransfors maul, and I cried like a babby. Nobody had ever cared for my soul before. Not even me. My family did religion stuff, but it was all ritual and full of expectation. I never even realized I had a soul. It was all a bunch of religious talk. The manosphere/game thing content may "have been around forever," but it had a new vicious saturation with the internet. Sailors talk that shit in the racks or at the club, but having it there 24/7 combined with internet addiction and forums is another thing. Self mutilation. Men have ways of undercutting each other socially/sexually just as women do. And this is why Chad wins, because betas will be so busy undercutting each other and themselves, and are easy to trigger to do so until they wise up and refuse death. What is rare is men raising each other up. I hate kiked society the most for that. Teaching men to sabotage each other and themselves and their fathers. Including with race mixing.
>>536207480>go to a party spot in a party city full of party sluts so you can get a fiancee to show off to your family
>>536214459I've actually been through a couple of bad experiences (a laughably understated euphemism) and I've been thinking more in terms of what they offer me recently. But as far as catching the type of fish I want, the only strategy I can think of that preserves my dignity is just to invite them along and let them take it or leave it. The confusing part is that they seem to just get bored once it's clear that I'm actually open to something serious and that it's not all talk. It's like... this is going well, you're getting what you want, oh wait it was too easy, back to rolling the dice (?)If you read my post above, in this case I'm literally chilling on a tropical island and this woman still lost interest. It feels like the only thing I'm doing wrong--the literal sole common denominator--is that I'm even willing to commit or take them seriously as people. That seems to be consistently punished. I don't want to be chased, or if I do i want them to keep up the effort when they catch me. I feel like I'm playing catch with a dog and I have to pretend to throw the ball and get their dumb asses to run after the imaginary ball if I don't want them to get bored eventually. It's not reasonable
You're not poor, are you /pol/?
>>536204500Fucking newfag. >maxxingwas a meme HERE long before it was ever zoomer slang. That's been an internet forum meme since before 2018 at least.
>>536209288They don't want the funding for their nursing homes and hospitals to be cut thats the only reason they care. They dont care if young men are getting head and pussy, they only care about their own survival and comfort.
>>536204458you can get two 18 year olds to fuck you raw for that price in Manilla
>>536214812You don't pull the party sluts covered in tattoos with cocaine problems. There can exist multiple states at the same time where there's a bunch of fashion week girls there for a single celebration and eternal whores who are regulars with big fake titties there to farm for tricks.It's like going to a concert here. Some of the girls will be massive whores that every band in town has fucked and some are regular girls who are still sluts but not pumped up coke sluts. You don't avoid concerts because strippers in cowboy hats are also in the crowd you just filter them
>>536207478Fuck you boomer. You know nothing.
>>536204212wow based>newI been doing this for 10 years, thank me for being your trendsetter
>>536204212>avg date $189MANUFACTURING CONSENT
>>536204458the typical gutter wench deserves not even a tenth of this
>>536207430>mutt accuses nordchad of lyingwe dont lie here Pedro
>>536204212God gave me two hands. So when can't beat my meat anymore I just switch it up.Dates? Partners? Wtf is that sounds like a psyops
>>536205673I Thought all your escort sites were shut down because of "human trafficking."
>>536215241I didn't click your video, but I'm assuming you've confused actual country girls with sorority girls? There's a difference between the two. If you lack the intelligence to see that, I can't help you.
>>536212064This>>536215496All women are the same
>>536204352>Tinder/Hinge/Dating App subscription15 dollars a month (assuming you have a yearly plan, otherwise it's 25 dollars)>movie40 dollars for tickets + 20 dollars for a single bag of popcorn for her + 10 dollars for a small can of coke for her>Dinner afterwards80 dollars, you'll get the small salad and water worth 10 dollarsTotal: 165 dollars, and that's the bare minimum, a movie date night. This is not including the haircut, shoes, clothes, and accessories you have to buy (better get a decent watch and a new iPhone or you'll give her the ick immediately), plus you better have a good car and a good apartment, if you have a shitty car or are renting a room, it's basically over before it started.
This is for you boomer
>>536214834>catching the type of fish I wantHang out in places you enjoy, meet women there>let them take it or leave itRight attitude, if I don't do it for you don't let the door hit you on the way out >get bored once it's clear that I'm actually open to something serious and that it's not all talkIf they make this realisation about you before they're in-love with you you'll be rejected 9/10 times, therefore you should play your emotional cards close to your vest and let women do all the talking about relationships etc, if they question you about it just be laid back about it "Right now I'm just focusing on myself and living life, but if the right person comes by *wink wink*">the literal sole common denominator--is that I'm even willing to commit or take them seriously as people.Like I said, if they catch wind of this too early you're out, just focus on having fun and getting laid until women bring relationship bullshit up> I have to pretend to throw the ball and get their dumb asses to run after the imaginary ball if I don't want them to get bored eventually. It's not reasonableNo, you just need to be your woman's best alternative, in her mind at least. I really do just think the parts you're getting wrong is being too serious too soon. Sounds like it anyways, let the women be the initiators of relationship talk, moving in together talk etc etc. It's what they want to do anyways.
>>536204212Why can't I just take a girl on a picnic? Some sandwiches, a thermos of homemade lemonade.
>>536214425>There are even fewer decent "twinks"ok, then just seek both at the same time and now you have more options
>>536206325Things are cheaper in Europe than the US in terms of cost of living, so of course women charge less. But yeah 70€ is still a scam.
>>536213679Kek. If only women or dating app functioned as such.Hey, my values are A B C. What are yours. Bam.
>>536215608I've never taken a chick I don't already know to a movie, we have these hipster dive theatres here where you can drink and they show ridiculous 80s hair metal band documentaries and the entire crowd is mostly rowdy goth weirdos spaced out so there's privacy/room. Those are acceptable or the art fag theatres showing short foreign films with some freakish director afterwards telling a pretentious story about the film while dressed in an all black leotard. But a regular theatre blasting sound and full of "teenagers" with too many ppl in there I'd never go
>>536215551Generalizations are for the simpletons and browns who are low IQ by default.
>>536215760>just be laid back about it "Right now I'm just focusing on myself and living life, but if the right person comes by *wink wink*"Literally me except instead of "wink wink" I just talk about my values, what I'm looking for, what I'm not into which will never change, and I'm very clear that I'd someone meets my criteria and just wants to come along for the ride they can. It's essentially an open invitation My experience has been that they'll forget we ever had any of that discussion and they'll create semantic games out of nowhere just t9 cause problems. Like the current one - she seems desperate for verbal commitment but I was already committing progressively as we spent more time together, then she loses interest and plays this weird "I'm not fired, I quit, and also I never worked here to begin with" card, mostly all on her ownIt'd hard for me because I've been in a relationship with a good church girl whose best friend was her grandma and she liked to knit and all that shit (before it was a TikTok tradcore meme) and these subsequent women are so much more difficult to deal withThe main thing that gets me is... it seems like they WANT drama and excitement. I must emphasize that I am currently sitting on the beach sipping a long island and left to myself I would continue doing so without issue. I just watched two seagulls fight over a small fish and it gave me a similar sensation to listening to females in this same situation if that makes any sense ... they just can't seem to just EXIST I see other guys like me living out of vans on YouTube and they have these earthy sort of birkenstock, north face wearing gf's who seem OK with that lifestyle, i wonder how they find them
>>536216379Sounds like Alamo Drafthouse except that's geared more toward film geeks but there's huge overlap between them and the crowd you're describing because they have a customer-oriented business model. Fairly priced drinks, good food, clean and quiet, mice variety of classics and modern stuff. They also don't shoe ads before the movies,they show "behind the scenes" type content that used to be part of DVD extras, interviews with the director etc. They show a lot of anime, too. No rowdy people allowed (they get ejected).It's just a chain but it's awesome. Plus it's only like $20/month for up to 1 ticket/day since they recoup the rest on food and drinks.
>>536204458Only dates I ever went on, we met for a drink and then went to get something to eat.We texted each other for a few days.We moved in together after 8 weeks and have been married now for 13 years.Dating is stupid, you're either a good match or you're not, going on some elaborate expo is not going to make you marriage material.Find a girl who is psyched just for the opportunity to hang out with you, activity agnostic
>>536208340>the average American makes $90k/year and can easily afford $15k for datesJust because 15k is a smaller number than 90k doesn't mean it's affordable. After taxes that 90k is 70k. Your housing will cost a third of your salary so subtract 30k just to have a roof over your head. Bills and food will easily cost 10k a year. Car 5k/y. At this point you have 25k left so if you're spending 15k on a hoe then you're giving more of your money to her than you are to yourself. And this is all with you living paycheck to paycheck, no investments. Oh and inflation is 12.5%/y so you'll be tightening your belt year over year. Hope you don't have any hobbies because you won't be able to afford them.
>>536217738You're explaining middle class American budgeting and finance to 13-year-old Guatemalan bro
