dumbest geopolitical and military fuckup since America invaded Vietnam. (In terms of costs … economic, human, diplomatic … much much worse). Fact: Russia has already lost.
Why would he care? He's getting richer and only the goyim are dying.
>>536209891Dumbest geopolitical and military move ever goes to Trump's Iran quest. That retardation will end up in the history books.
He had no other choice tbqhShould have dealt with them properly in 2014
>>536209891> Fart: Russia has already lost.
>>536209891Are we seriouspy forgetting Gaza's suicide-by-Israel retardation?Neither Vietnam nor Ukraine come close, and the latter is not yet decided (hell they are still holding like 20% of Ukraine last i looked).
>>536209891It doesn't matter for him. He's going to die soon and wants to go out as Putin The Conquerer. He can die peacefully knowing he sent half a million of his countrymen to their painful deaths at his command. Now that's power.
>>536210100no no, politicians are identical to the nations they represent
>>536210321There’s no doubt it’s idiotic, but..>>5362104391,000,000+ casualties is nothing to laugh at.
>>536210100He already had more money than can be spent in a hundred lifetimes before the war. The entire point was to be remembered as a great man who restored Russia as a feared great power.
Dunno if he's done anything more impressive domestically, but he's pretty fucking stupid when it comes to war at least. Maybe he got high on his own KGB farts and thought the FSB would be able to con away a massive military disadvantage.
Idk I think his mistake has been very useful to Europe.Without this shock, they would have never woken up and started investing in their armies. Some even want their own nukes.Plus they cut Russia off from the gravy train of euros that was funding most of his budget.Now with the Iran shit, Europe again will have to accelerate getting off fossils so that will make arabs also less relevant.People forget that the EU only got better through crises. Every big thing it ever did was the result of trying to get over a big obstacle.And Putin served Europe the best reasons to stick together and work against a common enemy.This would have been easier if the USA didn't also become an enemy, but whatever. That's another useful crisis.
>>536210558> 6 gorillion casualties is nothing to braaap at
>>536210779I just think he didn't count on the amount of support from NATO and other countries Ukraine would get, much of which was spurred on by public outcry in the west to a degree that monke grossly underestimated. He probably thought no one had the balls to do half the shit that was initially just heel-dragging, until Western leaders finally had to act or face overwhelming public dissent.
Putin is fulfilled, it was his choice not to win in UkraineWhich he could have won easily by blowing up all the Dnieper River bridges, cutting off all Ukie troops in the east from supplies or reinforcements ... he could still even now win doing thatPutin's choice was mass slaughter of Slavs and war profiteering, in partnership with Zelensky & the EUPutin would have liked a little more 'respect' from the West for serving his masters, but that's how things go
>>536211211Yeah, think that surprised him after Crimea. He should've looked for an out earlier though once it was clear that the reaction would be much stronger.
>>536210439Imagine losing to gay tranny manlet dancer.r*ssia doesn't have to imagine.
>>536210497Hamas are probably Mossad-controlled
>>536211211>>536211356In the many many weeks after the invasion, NATO support and strength was negligible. It was the overwhelming incompetence, corruption and unpreparedness of the Russia military. Everything except SpecOps and Wagner was a shit show and the SpecOps were completely fucked over my regular military support incompetence (like at Antanov airport). I just assume Putin was clueless and commend completely lied to him, but it was all 3rd rate war effort, breakdowns, and fuck up after fuckup, nevermind a general “why the fuck are we even here” attitude from Russian troops more interesting in looting tvs and fridges than fighting.
>>536211356... and more enduring especially. It was clear that it wasn't gonna go away. He hoped the FSB etc. could compensate for it, because he overestimates the effectiveness of Russian scheming and propaganda.
>>536210321Not comparable unless he invades Iran and gets bogged down in a few years worth of trench warfare.
>>536209891There is one obvious way to not regret it. He can win instead.I don't mean win in Ukraine, now that europe has detached itself from europe, there is a definite opportunity to either team up or attack europe that was not there before
>>536211796Endless wave of shit (with some corruption and the like mixed in because they can't avoid it) seems to be both their military and propaganda approach though. Probably a stupid approach in many ways too, but feel its deliberate.
>>536209891Million+ casualties. 500k actual dead apparently. Thats more than the UK lost in ww2. Russia is completely fucked
>>536211987>now that europe has detached itself from europeWut?
Im hijacking this thread. /pol I am doing a study for uni. I'm in biology and my desertation is about penis size and political ideology. So what is you's penis sizes?
>>536210558>>536211967The shit Trump has already done have caused global economic recession, it will be felt decades after the man himself is dead. It sank the the myth of U.S. invincibility, destroyed U.S. credibility, alienated allies. For what, fucking nothing. No, wait, for Israel. Putin at least had somewhat of a gameplan and might have succeeded if hings had gone slightly different.
>>536212301We are all UKmaxxing now. This continent shit is so over now.
>>536212494Size: averageIdeology: Stalinism
>>536209891We didn’t invade Vietnam shithead.
>>536209891get off the hoholium
>>536209891Iran war is worse.More expensive and caused more diplomatic damage.
>>536212301That's right. We Europeans can't stand those fucking Europeans anymore.
>>536210321>bombing Iran is the same as getting a million of your people killed Ok muhammad
>>536212612>global economic recessionWe produce our own gas you Swede cuck. Pay up, piggy
>>536212899The Vietnamese disagree. (I bet you think you won that war, too)
>>536209891I think the only thing he regrets is not launching the full-scale invasion back in 2014 when Ukraine's military preparedness was worse, drones were more expensive, and there was no Starlink. He overestimated the impact of sanctions.
