Why isn't Trump forcing South Korean fabs to manufacture more ram to shore up the RAM economy. Paying $209 for RAM that used to cost $37 is pretty fucking ridiculous.
i think its really funny that a bunch of faggot weeb gamers are being priced out of their own hobby by the man they vooted for
>>536214292Blame Altman, Zuckerberg and Anthropic. Trump has nothing to do with it.
>>536214396Trump could oh I don't know, tell his fucking agencies to limit the fucking data centers?
>>536214361Fpbp
>>536214428He doesn't have that power.
>>536214428Data centers are the only thing that's keeping up the economy at this point. You wanna have Biden era recession?
>>536214396didn't he give them 500 billion the first week of his term?
>>536214498The economy needs to crash regardless to get prices back to reality and to destroy the malinvestment
>>536214498>>536214472>>536214455>>536214428
>>536214498The economy was better under Biden.
>>536214292im still wondering why they arent increasing production and just making more ram
>>536214428he’s telling them to fast track them lol. biggest golem in american history.
>>536214292Sorry but my mom needs her new RTX Spark laptop with 128gigs of RAM.
I should've fucking gone to 32. I will not make the same mistake next time I upgrade years from now and will go straight to 128
>>536214292BasedYou lost tranny!
>>536214657My shit is at 32My issue with my PC is the CPU being outdatedGranted I have a PS5 and I'm not too interested in modern gaming these days.Switch 2 could be my last console if an OOT remake comes out.
>>536214292Why is laptop ram so expensive? There's no way they are putting that into data centers.
>>536214292>ram prices are trumps faultkek you're a dumbass and it shows.
i have hundreds of dollars worth of ram sitting in my PC. kneel before me you poor fucks
>>536214787That's the other side, is it even worth upgrading. I would've if STALKER 2 was really good but it seems meh
>>536214428Data centers are good for the economy and if they aren't built in US they would juts build them elsewhere (which they are). RAM demand is a global industry and fairly small portion of that is american data center demand and even smaller portion of that is something that the president can control.
>>536214837It's just the usual chink spam.
>>536214565When will RAM from that brand be available?Because right now can't buy these.
>>536214396Terrible claim. In fact, some people think a lot of the AI stuff is literally just bullshit to prop up the economy. They're giving billions away and they're building datacenters everywhere, and buying up all the ram and gpus w\ effectively "free money". Crying about this is retarded though. There's so much excess computer equipment in the country. DDR5? OK... cool? I guess? You don't need DDR5. If you're upset about the price, adjust your expectations...Buy a "workstation" that's 5 years old. Put a 5090 in it if you got that extra budget. Search on ebay : HP Z6 G4-5 just for an example.. you can get a workstation like this thats 5 years old w\ 32-64gb ram for $500ish.. put a newer GPU in and you're set.
>>536214918I dunno, do you care enough about modern games? There's only a handful of AAA and AA+ games that are worth a damn these days
>>536214498Yes I would rather have a Biden era recession than continue shoveling the future of the country into a jewish furnace
>>536214396You mean the guys who all got front row seats at his inauguration and have gotten numerous no bid sweetheart deals from the Trump administration? Those billionaires?
>>536214939>Data centers are good for the economyHow?
>>536214657I grabbed 64 like a month before this all started because I could smell judaism in the airSame reason I autistically keep my old hardware
>>536214396trump has everything to do with it since he's in bed with AI faggots and is subsidizing memory makers and AI companies on taxpayers dime while they get doubly fucked by ridiculous price gouging. its not just>AI is buying all memoryits that all 3 big memory makers (samsung, SK hynix, micron) are colluding to keep supply artificially low. that cartel racket needs to be broken up and they need to be fined into the ground for it but they are all butt buddies with trump so it will never happen.
>>536214292Because he started the war with Iran and that forced companies to prioritize hmb ram for AI over consumer grade ram because the profit margins are better.You voted for this.
>>536215013Money doesn't vanish when it's put into a data center. It creates jobs in the local economy and then more jobs trough it's own demands and their production all the while providing something that customers use. You may as well be asking why a washing machine factory is good for the economy.
>>536214787>I'm not too interested in modern gaming these days>Switch 2 could be my last consoleno need to lie
>>536214967in the US? Never.
>>536214573Because we’re not suppose to have RAM anymore. Everything will be processed in a data center by Jews and you will like it.
>>536214977Not really lol. The last month I've only played M&B Warband and emulated GBA games
>>536215013Think of all the porn we can generate and all the copyrighted music we can clone!Cant wait to listen to Micheal Jackson sing a Toby Keith album while I jerk off to Mickey Mouse fucking Barney in the ass.
>>536215096>It creates jobs in the local economy and then more jobs trough it's own demands and their production all the while providing something that customers use.Tell me what jobs it creats, despite the short gap construction work and the 2-3 It technicans that run it.data centers have basically no people working there, so they don't generate any synergies like large factories or production plants.
>>536214361>i just think its funny th-ACK!You lost, tranny.
>>536214292>>536214657Is there a big difference between 16 and 32gb RAM? Was looking on the market and could barely find any affordable pc's with 32. Some of them had 16 with the possibility to upgrade to 32 but i'm a tech noob so didn't do it.
You literally voted for this
>>536214396I talked with manufacturers. Fabs are opening up. They need 6 months for a fab. Once the backlog is served ram could be as cheap as ramen, in theory. It won’t, of course. But they all said something about October price drop
>>536215199>data centers have basically no people working thereI don't know why you believe this. Data centers aren't magic. They employ loads of highly paid technicians and maintenance workers directly and employ tons more low skill workers like cleaners, guards and then huge amounts in secondary effects like plumbers and electricians. Again the money doesn't just vanish, it goes to people or people making goods.
Trump is a Micron shareholder. He will tariff gook firms to death for Micron
>>536214292CUZ JESUS CHRIST IS A CHILD RAPING NON OMNIPOTENT KIKE AND WANTS TO BUILD MORE AI SO HE ADON AI THE AI 'GOD"CAN RAPE MORE CHILDREN AND BUY MORE TIMEI CHECKED OUT AFTER MY FED UNCLE AND HIS KIDS SOLD ME TO THE GOVTI HOPE THEY BOTH DIE THEYRE ONLY MY HALF SISTERS IM NOT JOKING AND THEN THE FEDS BROKE EVERY PC I OWN SO I STAY HERE ON PROBATION BEING SCREAMED AT ALL DAY EVERY DAY WHILE I JUST SIT THERE AND TAKE IT LIKE WHO THE FUCK WOULD BELIEVE IN GOD ?
>>536214292I got a z870x mobo, 32gb of 6000mhz 36cas ram, and a 9900x for $650 in April of this year. The market is fucked but its not ogre.If you didnt already have ram before the rampocalypse just buy a bundle deal and upgrade your potato.
>>536214292pay it up, incels! hope it goes to 1000$/gb ram so you incels can't get on the internet
>>536215221found one!back to your containment faggot
>>536215103Not in Yurop right now either. Will have to wait for competition for the prices to lower i guess...
>>536215336why are politicians allowed to own stocks?
>>536214292Are you guys seriously playing the new globohomo trash that needs so much ram? Hentai games and classics run perfectly on 8gb.
>>536215139There you goGo play classics like Metroid Zero Mission, Pokemon Gen III, or Wario Land 3, to name a few
>>536215253Yeah, it's like twice the amount.
it's an existential race. that shit is needed for more important things than whatever version of donkey kong you're running right now.
>>536214972>AI stuff is literally just bullshitANTISEMITISM! ANTISEMITISM!
>>536215393Quit spamming gay porn shit you fucking faggot
>>536215467Thank you!
>>536215417I use autodesk and solidworks. No one plays video games anymore. Theyre all bad. We moved on to making shit.
>>536214428Data centers and therefore ram are a globe market
>>536215523>Quit spamming gay porn shit you fucking faggot
>>536214396So all the faggots who got trump into office and the same kikes that control him now?Plus, the jewish war against iran is contributing to the exploding memory chip prices as well.
>>536215139Have you thought about, i don't know, maybe not playing video?
>>536215309>They employ loads of highly paid technicians and maintenance workers directly and employ tons more low skill workers like cleaners,thats not what you datacenters say.
>>536215705What else can he do? If he goes outside, he has to deal with both 4 legged and 2 legged wildlife that will try to kill him
>>536214972You don't fucking understand. I need the latest and greatest and newest technology that is released. That is my right as a fucking American!!!!!>posted from my iPhone 17 Pro
>>536215842I know you're shitposting but this shit affects parts I might need if they break
>>536214874The ram in my pc is worth 1,5k € atm. There was a time when that money would get you an entire gaming pc.
>>536215253Depends on what you do. But i get the feeling you don’t need that much. Many games/programs actually run better if you limit their ram usage. Browsers are a different ballgame but you shouldn’t have a million tabs open anyway. Invest in a big ssd and ask chatgpt how to make a file that emulates ram (i forgot the term). Per default my 8gb macbook runs smoother than my 64gig machine because of ram management.>upgradeableYou want to look at ram slots on the motherboard and compaitble ddr generation. With 4 slots of DDR4 or DDR5 you‘ll be fine. It‘s plug and play, easy to install. Watch a tutorial. Its worthwhile. I am a noob as well but a PC is what cars are to boomers. You just need to know some basics, so invest the time.
>>536214428The US isnt a command economy like China. Yet.
>>536214874>hundreds of dollarsBut thats just 16gb.
>>536214972DDR4 workstations are all being sold as barebones with no ram.
>>536214292data centres are of strategic importance. vidya gamers are not
>>536215753I don't know what point you are trying to make. "medium" factory is entirely made up category. People looking to build a data center aren't going to start up a shoe manufacturing business. Your options are to get a data center that creates dozens of high paying jobs or not get a data center and get no jobs. The data center will still go up and the people who sell RAMs still get employed
>>536215964Pretty much just use it for basic stuff like browsing the web, shitposting, streaming videos, music. 20-30 tabs up at the same time. No heavy gaming so 32gb seemed overkill but i wasn't entirely sure.
>>536216041>YetDifference is their commanders are big insects commanding small insects. Imagine command economy under Biden or Harris or even Trump over Americans. Shit wouldn’t last two years before all cities burn and civil war ensues
>>536214292all that RAM's going to AI buildout, your personal computing habit not only doesnt matter, it's getting in the way of you dying for israel, GOY
>>536214292Because the Koreans are a bunch of faggots who would rather profit from the shortage than give the market what it needs. Hopefully China finds a way to flood the market will RAM and put the gooks out of business.
>>536214657>next time I upgrade years from nowMy sweet summer child. It's over. You will never upgrade your computer, this is the last computer you will ever own. What you're going to do in the future will be renting computing time and that's that. You will own nothing.
>>536215253I think *some* games benefit from it. I play space engineers often and it pushes my 16gb to max often
>>536215253You missed the boat on cheap hardware and peripherals. Half of the price of a pc is shit you can reuse in future builds if you take of it. Like, a full tower case (not some meme minifaggot shit), power supply, fans, CPU cooler, monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. There are only 4 things you ever need to consider when upgrading after that and it will be a decade if you get decent stuff; cpu, gpu(superfluous if you aren't a faggot gaymur), ram, motherboard. I actually love that the gaming industry is tanking. Its been shit for over a decade. I couldnt care less that retarded poorfags arent there to prop that corpse up anymore.
>>536216269Go for 32gigs. 16 needs some minmaxing. 64 is overkill. Or get the lesser one it has empty ram slots and buy ram sticks to get to 32. Whatever is cheaper. But you want 4 ram slots on the motherboard just to be safe.
>>536214396No faggot. Blame the fact that AI is incredible revolutionary technology that everyone wants to use, but it requires like 100x more computing power than what the industry was used to providing. There is so much amazing stuff you can do now, but it requires terabytes of high-speed memory to work.
>>536216041It is when it comes to violating our Constitutional rights.But excuses are made when we need government to step in and balance the market
>>536216489>Blame the fact that AI is incredible revolutionary technologyYeah so incredible it shits the bed and deletes an entire company's data if not babysat
>>536214292I got my 64 gigs in July 2025 and that's all that matters.
>>536216442The only way to use this stupid gaming hardware is to play shitty games like Cyberpunk and Alan Wake at max settings in 4K. Literally every game worth playing, new or old, runs perfectly fine on something like a 2070 assuming you don't need 4K or 120fps like a stupid queer and just want to play the game.
NVDA stock price is sky rocketing under Trump. Trump really is making me a shit load of money. Thanks Trump>this confuses the low IQ epstein goy
>>536216164not true at all. And there's tons of them available.. I like the quality of the HP builds more than dell. But the reason I recommend these is that they will have a large power supply already, and you can just pop in a video card.
>>536216568The kind that's useful and doesn't do stupid shit like that requires a lot of compute so it's not relying on compression and shortcuts that butcher the end result. Go have Claude or Gemini build a complex program that ends up working perfectly in one go and tell me I am wrong. You can try to build it with a smaller model or a distilled or quantized model, but the end result will be a piece of dogshit that doesn't run. It takes the big models to do it right.
I feel right now is the time to grab all used 30xx Nvidia gpus for cheaps from tards that upgraded. Anyone knows if SLI is still a thing with this generation?
>>536214292Ok but you choose to put a Pic of ram no longer being made and wonder why the price is higher.
>>536216668Gaming has been shit since far longer than SoiburBunk but I agree with you. Anything worth playing can be done on a potato. Enthusiast shit used to be a combination of pushing hardware to its limits with overclocking and FPS chasing but that died a few generations ago when hardware manufacturers learned to bin their shit correctly to squeeze profits. Overclocking is dead. Games are shit. Whats the point? Lrn to product development and 3d print and building design.
>>536215253The problem is windows takes up a big chunk of that for no reason. So your 16GB is going half to windows leaving only 8 for the rest of your shit
>>536217078>Anything worth playing can be done on a potatoSquadtook me about 2 seconds to think of a great modern game that can't be run on a potato
Chinese investors are now buying Samsung stock just to boost up CXMT. $1 trillion could move from Korea to China. This will be the biggest capital flow in history.
>>536214292He doesn't fucking care AT ALL. Plus, do you think he even fucking knows what RAM is? Donald Trump is an old, faggot ass make a wish president who won the lottery. He's currently trying to create a legacy by doing the things he thinks presidents are remembered for. No one tells him about fucking RAM prices.
>>536217852It runs on a 1060/8400. Thats a more than decade old low/midrange pc. Any competitive fps online shooter should be played on minimum settings unless you're a shitter.
>>536214292Do you think boomers are aware of this? They still think you only need 500mb
>>536214292>Why isn't Trump forcing South Korean fabs to manufacture more ram to shore up the RAM economy. Paying $209 for RAM that used to cost $37 is pretty fucking ridiculous.Not sure if you are aware, but he doesn't give a fuck about the average American, including white middle class voters who put him in office.
>>536214292crucial doesn't exist anymore
>>536214972Retard take, here's your (you).You think DDR4 isn't getting used by these centers? Manufacturing capacity and market demands have shifted products straight from producers into Data centers skipping retail entirely. HDDs are spiking in price because of the demand. Everything is more expensive and it's not just because of inflation.
>>536214292The real problem is storage. I bought a couple pic related last year for $169 each now I can hardly afford to continue to archive. When everyone is priced out of local storage jews will have a free pass to do whatever they want unchallenged.
It will be interesting what phone manufacturers do over the coming year. They're all going to reduce ram by the sounds of it, but increase prices, while shilling AI
I used to give away pic related with wikipedia and Project Gutenberg (70K+ books) back when each card was only $32. Can't afford to do that anymore but all you fags care about is your games.
>>536217852>>536218438>>536217852>>536218438>Any competitive fps online shooter should be played on minimum settings unless you're a shitter.true
>>536219763>claims my take is retarded>offers nothing to prove it's retardedWell, gee, dipshit, just to prove my point to the other guy who claimed these are being sold without memory, "HP Z6 Z4 : xeon gold cpu : 64gb : 1000w psu :$349+50 shipping.Also apart from this, I genuinely believe that someone will fill the supply gap. I just refuse to believe there's something extra magical about the RAM manufacturing process. I have to believe that people see the huge demand spike, and recognize that there's billions of dollars on the table for consumers who want it.
>>536215309because some of us work for these fagman companies.datacenters barely have employees. Goog is nearly fully bot automated.
>>536214292nigga you subsidized micron so they'll do thatyour tax money paid for pricing you out of computer hardware they don't want you to own anything
>>536214292The absurd fab build out will still be there once the bubble collapses and you will be able to get 128gigs of ram for $19.99
>>536222150Probably even lower because when the bubble bursts they're going to be liquidating old hardware in amounts large enough to sink container ships.That's where things will get really fucking bad. When there's a glut of old shit on the market and it causes total price collapses for hardware that the big companies wont be able to withstand.
they need that RAM to surveil the goyim
>>536214428>tell his fucking agencies to limit the fucking data centers?Why the fuck would he do that? Data centers are crucial for American innovation and success, unemployed NEETs not being able to afford more RAM for their gooning and gayming PCs are not crucial for anything.
>>536222150>>536222989>muh a.i bubbleLol. We already paid for it using the global reserve currency. These data centers are already being used by law enforcement. The bubble will burst making everyone but the top .01% totally broke and the centers will be used to drone strike you for thinking about using your rights to even complain.Im not articulating this very well because I'm busy but I would like to see anons having a more comprehensive examination about this topic than mainstream retard rhetoric.
>>536214361what's funnier is how appreciating how quiet they are about it. just imagine if this happened under biden