Spain used to be 85% whitereal spainiards aren't and will never be brown no matter what subhumans on this shitty brown website says.
>>536220495you could say the same thing about the whole planet earth. but watch the mutts deny it
>brown eyes>black hair>tan easilyaverage spaniard isn’t white and that’s a good thing
>>536220495True.
>>536221117>>536220495
>>536220495That flag is so uglyHurts my eyes
>>536221117Don't stress it, fren. This whole thread is just a parody of that argentinian annoying faggot who posts shit like this everyday. I wanted to make fun of the fact that no one cares about these and that he never seem to correct the grammar mistakes in his copypaste lol.I appreciate it regardless. Stay safe and strong.
>>536222211*seemsEven I made one.
>>536221956>hides like a bitch behind memeflagBut yeah, perhaps. I never truly liked it either.
>>536220495you faggots are becoming more and more americans by the day. Who the fuck cares in Europe about being huwite ?
>>536220495>Spain used to be 85% whiteThe moorish invasion was a long time ago, anon.
>>536220495ole olevale vale
>>536220495I know dawg, I've been up North. "You talk but you scared to go back upp north -nas" Anyway. North Spain and south are in a way different countries while all have to know how to write and speak castellano.Which is great. Spain will not be a case of balkanization. North has more Germanic style of housing. Lotta wood, we can't have the nice wooden smell in this humidity. And besides maybe Barcelona we deal with fucking tourist's and Ukrainians on a daily basis. In November last year there was more people here than it was in summer. This summer is gonna a gdamned circus. Love it here tho, lots of freedom that is
>>536222211Ooh, we got pranked by a bot, guess only thing to do now is drink some piss
>>536220495Anybody remember when a bunch of Irish immigrated to Spain
>>536220495Introduction: Dismantling a Historical StigmaIn certain racist circles, the idea circulates that the “Moorish/Arabized appearance” of Spaniards—dark hair, olive skin, brown eyes—would be the product of mass rape or forced admixture during the Middle Ages. That narrative does not withstand even minimal comparison with the evidence. Population genetics and history show that Spaniards are, overwhelmingly, a Western European population with a Mediterranean phenotypic pattern shared with Italians, Greeks, and Maltese people. North African contribution exists, but it is modest, with well-characterized regional gradients; the sub-Saharan contribution is even smaller. The rest consists of ideological simplifications disguised as biology [1][2][3][4].1. “Arab Blood”: How Much North African Ancestry Is Really There?Fine-scale autosomal data for Iberia identify an approximate range of 0–≈11% North African ancestry, mainly Amazigh/Berber, with maximum levels in the west, including Galicia, and minimum levels in the northeast and the Basque Country. This pattern does not mechanically reproduce the maps of Islamic rule: the strongest signal is not in Andalusia, but along the Atlantic façade [1]. High-resolution regional studies estimate ≈11.2% in southern Portugal and ≈9.3% in western Andalusia, as well as an average sub-Saharan component of ≈1–2% in the southern peninsula. These are low proportions, compatible with prolonged low-rate flows and admixture from diverse chronological periods [3]. For southern Europe as a whole, independent estimates place sub-Saharan admixture at around 1–3%, with an average date of ≈55 generations ago, or about 1,600 years, consistent with late Roman and medieval contacts; again, it exists, but it is not defining [4]. The inference of Maghrebi gene flow into southern Europe has been robustly replicated with different datasets and methods [5].2. Mediterranean Physiognomy Is a Continuum, Not a Spanish Exception
The Mediterranean phenotype—light to slightly tanned skin, dark shades of hair and eyes, with broad variation—is not a “Moorish anomaly,” but a pan-European geographic continuum. In Europe, the first principal components of genetic variation reflect the physical map: genetic distances covary with spatial distance. Spain falls, together with Italy and Greece, within the southern European cluster, clearly differentiated from Maghrebi and Levantine populations. Phenotype and genome tell the same story: gradients, not abrupt jumps [2][1]. Speaking of a “Moorish appearance” in order to delegitimize southern Spaniards reveals prejudice, not knowledge.3. Historical Layers of Iberia: What Really MatteredBronze Age, ≈2200–1000 BC. Archaeogenomics shows a major demographic reconfiguration, with steppe ancestry and massive patrilineal replacements that introduced and expanded R1b, the dominant signature in the peninsula today [6]. Within R1b, the DF27 subclade reaches ~40% in Iberia and up to ~70% in the Basque population, with an expansion dated to around the Bronze Age. This episode explains much more of present-day genetics than any medieval episode [7][6].Classical and Late Antique World. Phoenicians, Greeks, and Romans contributed eastern signals, for example lineages along the J axis, on a limited scale compared with the local substrate; there were no major ruptures at the peninsula-wide level [6].Islamic Period. Muslim presence incorporated primarily North African, Amazigh/Berber, gene flow and, to a lesser extent, Arab contributions. At the peninsula-wide scale, the signal is modest and regionally variable; part of what is detected combines earlier inputs, from Neolithic or Holocene periods, and later ones, including Moriscos and repopulations [1][3][5].
Ancient African Maternal Lines. The detection in Iberia of mitochondrial haplogroups U6, North African, and some L branches, sub-Saharan, documents early Holocene inputs, ≈10 ka, as well as historical contributions; in other words, a portion of “the African” element in Iberia is far older than al-Andalus [10][11].North African Paternal Lines. Haplogroups typical of the Maghreb, for example E-M81/E-M183, appear at low frequencies across most of Spain and somewhat higher levels in the southwest and Portugal; the Iberian Y chromosome remains dominated by R1b. Y-DNA results concerning converso minorities and local legacies must be read with caution and not extrapolated to the entire autosomal gene pool [8][9].4. “Arab” ≠ “North African”: Basic Historical PrecisionIn medieval European sources, “Moor” is a broad exonym for Muslims of al-Andalus and the Maghreb. Historically, the conquerors of 711 were mostly Berbers, or Amazighs, led by Arab elites; over time, much of the Andalusi population became Hispano-Muwallad, that is, native converts. Confusing “Arab” with “any Muslim from the Maghreb,” or with “dark features,” is anachronistic and conceptually imprecise [12][13].ConclusionWhat dismantles this racist myth is simply a consistent sum of signals:(1) In Iberia, average North African ancestry is limited, ≈0–11%, with maximum values in the west; sub-Saharan ancestry is low, ≈1–3%, for southern Europe [1][3][4].(2) European genetic structure is clinal: Spain lies within the southern European continuum shared with other Mediterranean peoples; “Mediterranean phenotype” does not mean recent “Moorish admixture” [2][1].(3) The greatest demographic weight comes from the Bronze Age and from western lineages such as R1b/R1b-DF27; Maghrebi and historical signatures are minority components and are partly ancient [6][7][5].Reducing Spanish diversity to a racial insult ignores basic genetics and the real history of the Mediterranean.References
>>536220495I lub Spain There is a beautiful church preserved in the lower level of the museum in Madrid They’re all blonde
>>536220495>Spain used to be 85% whiteIberians, Romans and Greeks never considered themselves white (germans) and even made jokes about themDissasociate from the anglosaxon's white rethoric, retard
[1] Olalde, I. et al. “Patterns of genetic differentiation and the footprints of historical migrations in the Iberian Peninsula.” Nature Communications (2019). https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08272-w[2] Novembre, J. et al. “Genes mirror geography within Europe.” Nature (2008). https://www.nature.com/articles/nature07331[3] Arauna, L. R. et al. “Human Genomic Diversity Where the Mediterranean Joins the Atlantic.” Molecular Biology and Evolution (2020). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7086172/[4] Moorjani, P. et al. “The History of African Gene Flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews.” PLOS Genetics (2011). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3080861/[5] Botigué, L. R. et al. “Gene flow from North Africa contributes to differential human genetic diversity in southern Europe.” PNAS (2013). https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1306223110[6] Olalde, I. et al. “The genomic history of the Iberian Peninsula over the past 8000 years.” Science (2019). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6436108/[7] Solé-Morata, N. et al. “Analysis of the R1b-DF27 haplogroup shows that a large fraction of Iberian Y-chromosome lineages originated recently in situ.” Scientific Reports (2017). https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-07710-x[8] Adams, S. M. et al. “The genetic legacy of religious diversity and intolerance: paternal lineages of Christians, Jews, and Muslims in the Iberian Peninsula.” American Journal of Human Genetics (2008). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2668061/[9] Capelli, C. et al. “Moors and Saracens in Europe: estimating the medieval North African male legacy in southern Europe.” European Journal of Human Genetics (2009). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2947089/[10] Hernández, C. L. et al. “Early Holocenic and Historic mtDNA African Signatures in the Iberian Peninsula: The Andalusian Region as a Paradigm.” PLOS ONE (2015). https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0139784
[11] Secher, B. et al. “The history of the North African mitochondrial DNA haplogroup U6 gene flow into the African, Eurasian and American continents.” BMC Evolutionary Biology (2014). https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1471-2148-14-109[12] “Moors.” Bridging Cultures: Muslim Journeys. https://bridgingcultures-muslimjourneys.org/items/show/218[13] “Spain — Muslim Spain.” Encyclopaedia Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/place/Spain/Muslim-Spain
Final Note: Mediterranean, Not LesserAnd even if one does not want to define Spaniards as “white” in the narrow, modern, northern-European sense of the word, that does not make them lesser. Spaniards are Mediterranean, and that should be a source of pride rather than insecurity.The Mediterranean world is not a marginal footnote in Western civilization. It is one of its foundations. Greece gave the West philosophy, political thought, tragedy, history, mathematics, and the language of reasoned inquiry. Rome gave Europe law, citizenship, institutions, roads, urban life, statecraft, and the very idea of a shared legal civilization. Spain, later, became one of the great historical engines of the modern world: an imperial, legal, literary, theological, philosophical, artistic, and global power.Western civilization was not built in Athens, Rome, Córdoba, Toledo, Salamanca, Seville... Its foundations were written in Greek, Latin, and Spanish as much as in German, English, or French.It is true that many later scientific and technological breakthroughs came from northern and central Europe, especially from German, British, Dutch, French, and other European inventors and thinkers. But the deeper cultural, legal, philosophical, religious, political, and economic foundations of the West are inseparable from the Mediterranean world.Spain alone produced figures of enormous importance: Isidore of Seville, Averroes and Maimonides in the Iberian intellectual world, Alfonso X, Francisco de Vitoria, Francisco Suárez, Juan de Mariana, Miguel de Cervantes, Diego Velázquez, Teresa of Ávila, John of the Cross, and many others. The School of Salamanca contributed to natural law, international law, just war theory, monetary theory, property, rights, and early economic thought. Juan de Mariana, in particular, remains an important figure in political and economic thought, especially for his criticism of tyranny, monetary manipulation, and arbitrary power.
So the point is simple: Spaniards do not need to beg for validation by fitting into someone else’s racial category. They do not need to prove that they are “Nordic enough,” “white enough,” or anything of the sort. They are Spaniards. They are Mediterranean. They belong to one of the great civilizational lineages of human history.Being Mediterranean is a heritage of law, philosophy, empire, art, theology, literature, exploration, architecture, political thought, and cultural depth. Spain does not have to imitate anyone else’s identity. It already has its own.
>>536224704White is an American thing, do Germans in Germany use it?
>>536220495I support Spain because they make kikes seethe. Instead of a 1492 spanish golden age we should apply it worldwide
>>536220495 and panchito Wrong. You are brownSee Elpatroncriollo in x for more details
