Overwhelmingly science disagrees with pretty much every stance the right holds in regards to LGBTQ people (or at least the stances that people on the right votes into office). The reality of this rhetoric and actions is children will kill themselves.For one: transgender people do not "feel" like a different gender. They are a different gender. Saying otherwise is denying the science as we know it. Let's begin with this view. (The neuroanatomy of transgender identity published in Journal for Sexual Medicine; Structural, functional, and metabolic brain differences as a function of gender identity published in Archives of Sexual Behavior)Nobody is "grooming" children and pushing this narrative is a blatant lie or ignorance and proving you don't follow the science. The overwhelming majority are arguing for normalization of queer identities in line with the fact that trans people exist (see above) and that children understand gender identity as early as 4 years old. (The role of gender constancy in early gender development published in National Library of Medicine)Stigmatizing queer identities leads to an increase in suicidality. This should be a given but since I'm in a "providing scholarly sources" mood today: (Stigma and minority stress as social determinants of health among lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender youth published in Pediatric Clinics)Addressing a view commonly expressed here: That people are now identifying as LGBT more frequently than in the past.Yes. The same happened with left handedness after we stopped calling left handed people devil spawn, and the numbers of LGB individuals is more roughly static now and has been roughly static for about five years. Trans people have always existed, they just didn't feel comfortable being out of the closet.But my question: why do conservatives act in a way opposite the scientific literature says we should if they claim to be the party of "facts and logic?"
>>536223271You're just a crazy faggot.
>>536223334every non-answer response I get further proves me right and makes me more sure of my beliefs.
>>536223271that picture still makes me laugh
>>536223389You're still just a crazy faggot.
>>536223271Trannies existing makes normal people want to kill themselves so I think you need to think of the greater good here.
>>536223271>wall of text about creepy autogynephile pervs
>>536223389Your entire belief system is a collection of psychotic delusions.
>>536223389>>536223271Pilpul. You are insane. In turn you will meet your just punishment. End of discussion.
>>536223271>LGBTQ people>peopleIncorrect, honorary Indian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7ovp7kO8Ps
>>536223271Trannies always lose
>>536223271>science is the basis of claiming you're the opposite of what you actually are>science, by its own admission, is untrustworthy Makes sense>trans people have always existedWhat did tranny mean prior to 15 years ago?
>>536223271>For one: transgender people do not "feel" like a different gender. They are a different gender.Biologically they are not that gender though and that has to be a factor in law and the way we organize society.
there is no gay gene
who caresyou are either XX or XY chromosomes which activate one of two biological development paths for your body. fact.before you try and catch me in edge cases like triple-X or other shit, the vast majority of trannies fall in these two camps. fact.one person's "thought" of what the other sex experience "must be" is not based on personal experience as the opposite sex. it is based on external observation, an incomplete picture of the experience of that sex. fact.therefore XY people cannot possibly know what XX people think and feel, and cannot claim to be the opposite sex, and vice-versa. to claim otherwise is like saying you can know what it's like to be, and identify as, a sea urchin. logic.2/10 bait, shit thread, kys
>>536223271Okay, so the transes are their own gender. Then they need separate bathrooms, sports, etc. in the same way men and women have separations in societal functions.
Gender is not real. It is a social construct. Therefore gender dysphoria is not real, either.
>>536223271would transition have saved her?
>>536223271I somewhat suspect that people having a higher affinity for the social roles of the opposite sex is due to some childhood trauma (which is why there is a strong overlap with autism which is also caused by childhood trauma, almost all deviations from standard are caused by childhood trauma, as its very very easy to traumatize a child through countless ways). But i also think that there is no fixing that once it happens.The idea of a social slot for someone who does not conform to the standard sex based position already exists in societies as being gay which is actually way more nuanced than sexual preference. Humans do not naturally have a sexuality and all human sexuality is just a learned social convention (sexuality not to be confused with reproductive attraction, sexuality is more identity based and is all the stuff that is not direct sex that are associated with sex). In fact i would argue that homosexuality is a secondary characteristic of being gay.The entire modern idea of transgenderism is unnecessary when you realize that gender and sexuality are, unironically, social constructsThere are absolutely leftist parents who virtue signal with their kids.>>536223978This is correct and its what gayness used to accomplish. The homosexual signals outwardly their gayness for social conformity. This is actually why /pol/ arguing about gays being too gay is silly. They are gay so you know they are gay and everyone can follow the correct social protocol. Its way better for everyone than them being closeted.
>>536223271Since when did facts matter for matters of opinion?Call yourself whatever you want, if you pass I'll call you a little girl but if you don't I'm calling you a man I don't have time to play games or ask your preferred pronouns, its like a nickname you don't get to pick sweetheart, society views you how it does and you can't change that.
>>536223978I can only use the women's bathroom in any establishment that doesn't have a separate bathroom for trans people or non-gendered ones, do you really want every single restaurant/venue/public building to build more bathrooms?to be fair, most places now moved to gender-neutral bathrooms with large open spaces so they're already doing it for me but it's not everywhere, especially not all the bars I go tobut anyways no one cares, no one ever in my life complained or noticed me
>>536224309this also illustrates the problem with the current transgender ideology.Pretending to be a girl only works if you can pull it off.Really its just that there are males and females who are dominant or submissive.We should have established social rules for each and maybe work on more elaborate signaling mechanisms.
>>536224393>do you really want every single restaurant/venue/public building to build more bathrooms?If I want for my daughters to not go and shit/piss in the same space as a "IT'S MAAM!", then yes. Or gender neutral bathrooms with single person admittance at any time.
>>536223727Kek brilliant>>536224393Life would be a lot easier if you simply stopped pretending to be the opposite sex and forcing everyone else to play along
>>536224605Forgot pic
>>536224605I'm not stopping you from pushing for those reforms then, like I said the types of bathrooms that I've been seeing more and more (like this one at uni) are just open-space with stalls, no gender division, so I don't mindbut you also wouldn't take your daughter to bars or clubs so it's not like I care
>>536224696it was very hard beforeit's not easy now but it's not as hard as it felt beforepeople are glad when they meet me, jubilant even
>>536223271>Overwhelmingly science disagrees with pretty much every stance the right holds in regards to LGBTQ peopleExcept this is a lie
Why are they all vegetarians? Because they were a herbivore! Tsss
>>536223271The scientific basis for a cautious approach to youth gender transitions rests on extensive clinical reviews from major medical authorities in the United Kingdom, Sweden, and Finland. These countries moved away from early medicalization after comprehensive evaluations, including the independent Cass Review, found that the evidence supporting puberty blockers and hormone therapies is remarkably weak and carries serious, irreversible risks to long-term development. Additionally, long-term psychiatric data indicates that distress and suicidality in adolescents are heavily linked to underlying mental health conditions like depression or neurodivergence rather than gender dysphoria alone. Based on these findings, this perspective argues that a responsible medical approach must prioritize thorough, holistic mental healthcare before introducing permanent physical changes.
>>536223271Kill yourself faggot
>>536223271>For one: transgender people do not "feel" like a different gender. They are a different gender. Saying otherwise is denying the science as we know it. Let's begin with this view. (The neuroanatomy of transgender identity published in Journal for Sexual Medicine; Structural, functional, and metabolic brain differences as a function of gender identity published in Archives of Sexual Behavior)So trans suffer from a mutation and it is this mutation that reduces their reproductive fitness and makes them an increased danger to society. Ultimately, cause only matters with respect to how it impacts outcomes. If trans outcomes are largely negative, and the cause of trans is biological, we should be working to cure trans, not cater to their harmful mutation.
>>536223271LOL
>nobody is grooming kidsThey actually believe this
>>536223572>beating bio women in sportsHonestly, this is one of the few reasons I'm pro-tranny. It's funny as fuck watching women get wrecked by women who grew up as men, and then they have to seethe quietly about it because they can't be transphobic.
>>536224696It can still be easy; just teach your children to stay away from LGBT people and raise them well. The transcreatures don't really reproduce, so they will naturally die off. The way they reproduce is by stealing the children of normal people.
>>536223334Fpbp
>>536224309>its like a nickname you don't get to pick sweetheart,I identify as a 6'4 white chad with a huge cock, and I DEMAND that women treat me according to how I identify even though I was born a jeet.
>>536223271>Nobody is "grooming" childrenThis is demonstrably false. Trannies have been documented grooming children on multiple instances. As trashy as I think kiwi farms is, they have a lot of documentation on this exact thing happening.>and pushing this narrative is a blatant lie or ignorance and proving you don't follow the science.Oh, so you're just projecting your own deceitful nature onto those calling "your people" out for their bad behavior. Typical NPD shit.>The overwhelming majority are arguing for normalization of queer identities in line with the fact that trans people existRemembering that by your own admission, trans are mutants, this is a bit like saying we should normalize severe non-verbal autism identity, or harlequin ichthyosis identity. It's simply not viable for a society to do this. Harmful mutations and subsequent "mutant identities" should be mitigated through treatment, not encouraged or worse "grown."This is especially true given that>Stigmatizing queer identities leads to an increase in suicidality.and that "queer identities" are often toxic and destructive, not just to themselves but to broader society, which makes stigmatizing them a critical tool for societal well-being.>why do conservatives act in a way opposite the scientific literature says we should if they claim to be the party of "facts and logic?"Because the scientific literature is coming from a scientific community that has been ideologically and materially captured by communist ideologues. It is now highly politicized and untrustworthy.
>>536223271If gender is real, race is real.
>>536223271tl;drkill yourself troon
>>536223271Basing a sexual identity on supply chain of hormones is diabolical work.Also, your picrel means you know Nick Fuentes is FtM transgender who transitioned before puberty.
>>536223271>O-AAAAACCCKKKK!!!!!!!!
>>536223271 I aint reading all that shite.I think Pink Floyd said it best.>Hey Troony>Leave those kids alone>All in all your just another>Nonce to be put against the wall
>>536223271>For one: transgender people do not "feel" like a different gender. They are a different gender. Saying otherwise is denying the science as we know it. Let's begin with this view. (The neuroanatomy of transgender identity published in Journal for Sexual Medicine; Structural, functional, and metabolic brain differences as a function of gender identity published in Archives of Sexual Behavior)debunkedgender = sex. Activists don't get to hijack the dictionary and change the meanings of words. You are your body. It is impossible to be born in the wrong body. There is no "gender soul". "Transgender" people are any combination of the following:- victims of child sexual abuse- porn addicts- autistic- autogynephiliacs- ugly losers trying to reinvent themselves- narcissists looking for attention- predators looking to groom children- idiots who follow the herd- confused gay people- children who have been groomed
>>536226575
Why do so many MtF trannies have autism if it's so rare in actual women?
>>536223271>. The reality of this rhetoric and actions is children will kill themselves.Children kill themselves, or think about killing themselves, all the time. You're not special. >>536223271>They are a different gender. Saying otherwise is denying the science as we know it.Gender is a social construct. And social sciences are more like opinions. >>536223271>Nobody is "grooming" childrenIt totally is. Second amendment exists. Would you approve of the NRA and other like groups, to go to schools and give kindergartners toy guns and be instructed on gun handling? You'd be okay with NRA having activities for children to roleplay how they'd feel by being a gun owner?inb4 you can't get a gun being under age. yeah, and you also can't have sex. I'm not gonna answer the rest, because you won't even read it.
>>536223389>beliefs.You called them science. Now they're beliefs. Deep down you know the truth.
Kill yourself and die, freak
>>536223389>my beliefsAs if you would have known what the fuck a gender is 2000 years ago. "Your beliefs" are someone elses believs you adapted as a survival strategy because youre a genetic deadend
>>536223271The largest study to date using 23 and me data shows at MOST a 10% correlation to being "born" gay. The gay promoters of the study didn't even want to publish it because the science showed the opposite of what the left wing news has been spewing. You have a defect, plain and simple. Just like some people fantasize about little kiddos, doggos, their sister, or even torturing animals. Even if you genuinely 'feel' something doesn't make it ok. You don't get to bang doggos, kiddos, your sister, OR someone of the same sex. You can be besties, collect orchids, adopt a cat, wear loud clothes together, but sucking each other off or butt burgling is off the table. Don't care how "right" you feel about it, straight up pedos "feel" exactly the same. You need to stop the degeneracy and quit excusing your lack of control for some great thing that just HAS to be accepted.It doesn't.
>>536223271>Overwhelmingly science disagreesStopped reading right there. Science my ass.
>>536224393>do you really want every single restaurant/venue/public building to build more bathrooms?No. Stop pretending you're special. Stop using trans meant for the physically disabled. No woman confronting you =/ No one cares. They very much care, and they very much notice.You trigger the amygdala of those hapless woman.. Your presence makes them feel unsafe.
>>536223271Are you by any chance autistic and a frequent user of pornography?
>>536224864>people are glad when they meet me, jubilant evenThat means they're mocking you.
>>536223271I shall file this thread under FAKE and GAY until futher notice. Any complaints may be thrown directly into the nearest garbage receptacle.
>>536223271>>536223389You will never be a Woman.
>>536223271>They are a different gender.> the scientific literatureThis would be the Queer Social Sciences literature...You realise it's all trash right.You're all a laughing stock. Credible science points and laughs at your claims.
>>536223271YWNBAW
>>536223271>For one: transgender people do not "feel" like a different gender. They are a different gender. Saying otherwise is denying the science as we know it. Let's begin with this view. (The neuroanatomy of transgender identity published in Journal for Sexual Medicine; Structural, functional, and metabolic brain differences as a function of gender identity published in Archives of Sexual Behavior)Kek, gender theory is nothing more than a jewish psyop, there's only sex, male and female. Congratulations, you're a homosexuel man brainwashed into believing that you were some kind of starseed, magic, indigo kid or whatever, with a higher destiny, and somehow Mother Nature decided to piss you off and put the opposite sex's soul or spirit in your body and now you're sole life goal is to do everything to become someone that doesn't, and will never exist.you were too shameful to be a fag, but too much of a fag to be a man, let alone accept your fate and eventually fuck women and have kids the natural way and comtribute to society. But you chose estrogen and AIDS.
>>536223271>genderYou don't have a 'gender', you have a biological sex.The definition of 'transitioning' is to go from one state of being to the other.But your biological sex isn't going anywhere, so you never 'transitioned' in the first place. You're not even 'trans'.You just underwent disfiguring surgery. It's a scam.
Go back in the closet you sick deranged freak...no one cares about you fag bullshit...It was much better when all this garbage was unheard and not forcefully pushed on everyone to accept it or else...Go be a fag in private...
>>536224008Correct. They're just dysphoric.Which doesn't mean 'confused' btw.
>>536224864Why was it hard before? Was it maybe because you were an autistic man in a hostile society that had no sympathy for people like you?
Trannies dont exist so feel free to take your nearest exit with a nice rope and chair.If you're too scared, like 53% of trannies who dont kill themselves are, the helium exit strategy is more respectable. Unfortunately, the Hormussy status is closed which might cause issues with helium supplies so order what you need now.
>>536223271>Overwhelmingly science disagrees with pretty much every stance the right holdsIs the science a bullet? I've got plenty of science to prove you wrong, if that's what we're talking about
Charlie was a faggost
>>536223271Take it to your fag board, faggot.
That fruity nonsense is not real scienceMost trannies are just crossdressers that are taking advantage of the fad to exhibit their fetish in publicI will however concede that I suspect real actual body-dysmorphic transgender people do existIt's rare though, at least as rare as male anorexicsIt's not something that should be embraced or promotedEspecially in children, since they still have a chance to grow out of itAnd this weird political aspect driven from the left, in which they try to conflate transgenders, crossdressers, and drag queens is just plain creepy and wrong
>>536223271THe problem is the arguments used to support transgender are the exact same arguments used by the left to discount Religion. You have all of human history and all of the object data that says there are only men and women, but if someone comes along and says >Im actually a womanBut all evidence points to you being a man>Yeah but i believe im a womanOk well i dont believe you are a woman>You have to believe im a woman because in my head i believe I am therefore its real.So i have to take you on your word that you saying your a woman is true>YesSo its something that you just believe, that you cant actually prove outside of your own thought, so faith? Now swap out woman with religion >I believe there is a god.Ok well all evidence points to no god>You have to believe in god because in my head i believe it is true therefore its realSo i have to take you on your word that you saying there is a god is true>YesSo its something that you just believe that you cant prove outside of your own belief, so faith. Once you realize that transgenderism is operating under the same ruleset as a religion everything makes so much more sense. These people are not some one who is dealing with an identity issue, they are zealots, they are fanatics in the religion of modernity, and worshipers of progress. Transgender is a bullshit faith system not one rooted in science. If I think i am napoleon, i have just as much validation in that being true as some one claiming that trans is true.
>>536223271There are no anti trans arguments. A thing has to be real valid thing for there to be arguments against it.
>>536223494But they are scientific psychotic delusions. So now what?
>>536223271Fuck Off, Faggot.
>>536228296You could have saved yourself a lot of effort if you just read the OP. Everything you wrote is based on a false presupposition that people are "just saying" they are trans.
>>536223271You can post whatever you want, make as many edgy memes as possible, but you're just a man in a dress. Every civilized society knew that until ~15 years ago, when Epstein in his buddies pushed the TransLARP unto the masses.
>>536227061sorry you're blind to the value of scientific research in determining your beliefs, better to rely on a 2,000 year old desert fairytale instead
Today's Tom Sawyer, mean mean PRIDE
>>536223271I’m not reading all that. 41% yourself faggot
>>536223271https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-024-02817-5Entertaining the delusions of the delusional is abuse
>>536223271>transgender people do not "feel" like a different gender (...) Saying otherwise is denying the science as we know it. False, neuroscience does not support this idea.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12753556/>Nobody is "grooming" childrenUnfalsifiable.>children understand gender identity as early as 4 years old.Partially correct, but oversimplified. They don't understand gender in an adult way.>Stigmatizing queer identities leads to an increase in suicidality.Correlated, yes. But no causal and clinical inference proven.https://cmda.org/the-cass-review-final-report-uk-2024/>static for about five yearsIt has tripled.>conservatives act in a way opposite the scientific literatureThe cautious approach is not a right-wing position, but something that even the European public health has endorsed.https://can-sg.org/2024/04/28/summary-of-cass-review/I don't know why American science is so hysteric about transitioning.
>>536223334FPBPOP you are mentally ill and your delusions mean nothing
start argument with>expert sayslose argumentif anti-trans arguments are factually wrong, why do you lost the argument?
>>536223271It's just not worth talking about an issue that effects such a tiny segment of the population. For them to demand that the rest of the world should change to accommodate them is insanely selfish and unrealistic, at best some people will humour the delusion
>>536228671There is nothing that proves some one is trans except what they believe. They can believe they are a woman if they have a cock they are a man.
>>536223271give literally one source that supports your belief that a biological human male can become a biological human female.
>>536229466I'm an atheist. Now what?Trannyism is a belief. Literally self identification (subjective). All it can be, is a belief. Inb4 my hormone therapyYeah, end that and you lose all the 'proof' that you're woman.
>you have to use our new name>have to accept us as the new gender in every way>have to let us change ID cards to suit my preference Dear god who the hell cares? Why do trans people think everything is about them?
>>536223271follow your xister
>>536223271>t.
>>536223271Trannies have existed for quite some time in human history. Conservatives, funnily enough, are the group that finds themselves fucking trannies most often. There's a direct correlation between republicanism and Grindr usage. This a group that seeks to hide their fetish, so as to uphold some kind of "moral standard" within society.
Ha nice bait thread
>>536223271nigga didnt read the articles you referencedpic is from first source> They are a different gender. Saying otherwise is denying the science as we know itseem like you are denying the science, as it is
>>536228671>false presupposition that people are "just saying" they are trans.They're trans because they're trans/were born that way/other circular explanation. Explain the way that a person can be diagnosed as transexual, that doesn't involve self identification. Transsexual because your goal is to make your gender (the one you've always allegedly been), match your sex. Unironically admitting that the universal opinion (even your own wish, and the thing you save money for) is that sex and gender are the same thing.
>>536223271Rightwingers operate 100% on feels. Reals do not matter
