Russia's big scary missile attack on Kiev happened tonight, the one that Putin warned about a week in advance and told diplomats to evacuate for. And there isn't a single thread about it on /pol/ because nobody gives a shit about these idiots anymore after all the endless humiliations at the hands of Ukraine. Just another big wave of missiles (like the hundreds before it) that won't have a single tangible impact on the progress in the war.
Damn, and we had so much buildup for that./pol/ was saying that it would kill Zelensky and end the war.
Nothing ever happens. World slowly slips closer to hell. Jeets in every corner. Rapes and 2 tier policing. Feminism and boomers winning elections.Nothing ever becomes better.
>>536241246And you western cucks still won't give Ukraine long range missiles. Keep sucking Putin's and Trump's assholes.
Is there anyone who still think nukes are real ?
>>536241246Russia ran out of steam years ago so it is expected.
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>>536241246I don't think that's what Russia claimed.Their overall message was that:>FROM NOW ON all strikes will target decision-making sectors in Kyiv.Translation: Russia will from now on mostly target expensive assets in Kyiv, with every strike, as a shift in the war strategy.>>536242288>Is there anyone who still think nukes are real ?funny coming from JapanBut yes they're real. But this war isn't big enough to risk nuclear escalation yet.
>>536243531More like there's not much to gain from using a nuke.And more to lose.But never suspect Russians of rationality
Ukrofascists fail to real that there is a final redline after this one.
While russian people larping as ukranians are hunkered in below as their homes are being destroyed... I wonder what eu elitehs and their children are doing! Probably enjoying egyptian cotton threaded sheets in their large beds, rooms and homes. Planing their next vacations and party.russia will pay for their evil, always their people's Innocent blood spilled while they larp.So will now every nation who spared evil directly, especially pretending theyre protecting the innocent from escalations. When the innocents die and will die en mase anyway, as always.Filthy whores.
>>536243563>More like there's not much to gain from using a nuke.A lot of analysts are talking about the raising benefit of using a nuke. For one, it would restore the value of deterrence in the world, because for now the the west acts as though MAD doesn't exist anymore. Many analysts consider this to be very dangerous in itself, so 1 or 2 tactical nukes dropped somewhere on Ukraine would bring a lot of benefit to world security and power balance.And many generals/advisors in Putin's court think the same. Putin is still not convinced though. But it would bring other risks. I think he's just going to stall for another 8 years, before he finally agrees with his generals on nukes. Same as he stalled for 8 years when his generals wanted to invade in 2014.
>>536243263They can't even build hypersonic missiles anymore and the ones they still have can only fly at subsonic because someone embezzled the money for the special composite materials. They ended up refitting them with whatever trash metal they had on hand and the first few they launched ended up exploding before they could even leave Russian borders. Now they fly so slow that hols have been shooting them down with AKs
>>536241246So, did Ukraine just get smashed or no?
>>536243709imagine believing this
>>536243563Ukraine is busy committing ethnic suicide at the command of a kike rat but yeah sure it's Russia who's "irrational", utterly delusional retards you lot lmao
idk whats wrong with whites these days but nothing is stopping them from modernizing "The Blitz". could use the same planes and bombs just fly lower.
>>536241246>if you bomb your enemy they winHow are you celebrating pride month?
>>536242288>flagLol good one
>>536241374killing zelensky doesn't end the war and frankly this is the only reason why he's still alive
>>536243677t. russianWhat's really happening: You want to occupy Ukraine and that's hard when it's nuclear wasteland, so you won't nuke it unless you're become extremly butthurt and vaginal.
>>536243880>want to occupy Ukrainet. retarded trannyeveryone keeps yelling about Russia wanting to occupy this or that - yet nobody ever is able to explain "why".
>>536243762+15 RUBSubmitting to russia is literral ethnic suicide because of russian russification tactics.
>>536241374shitskin leftypol trannies from /chug/ are not /pol/
>>536243677Doubt it.Putin realises that using a nuke would sink Russia even lower on the world stage.Then China would lose face as a backer and would have trouble justifying supporting Russia. They could get sanctioned if they continued.Russia would end up paying a high price for using a nuke and thus get economically squeezed even more. Also it would pretty much end the UN as other members would decide it makes no sense to sit at the table with a country that dropped a nuke and pretend it's business as usual.
>>536243940crimea
>>536241246No one gives a shit about Ukraine either.
>>536243762Dear asshole, ukrainians are facing a fight or die anyway situation. Of course you cucked as fuck brits would just yield
>>536244055Yes but if we're being honest most westerners do care
>>536243878>killing zelensky doesn't end the war and frankly this is the only reason why he's still aliveI'm not sure about that.Ukraine isn't a sophisticated hive-mind system that can operate militarily and politically without a queen bee. If you claim killing Zelensky wouldn't be enough because he would be replaced by someone else - this is probably true. But then you can just kill that "someone else" as well.The realistic outcome would be that once the few idiots at the top are eliminated, the remaining power structures will grab all the billions $ remaining, and run abroad.Ukraine, by no stretch of imagination, was ever functionally-nationalistic, it was always more of a business-venture rather than a statehood. And most of its biggest political scandals during its 30 years of independence revolved around huge financial debts to foreign companies.I believe the real reason why Russia still refraims from killing Zelensky, or Budanov, or Syrsky - is because Kremlin doesn't want to escalate an inter-state conflict into a "political assassination war", which would put a lot of politicians in Europe under alert. Albeit Israel never cares and just outright assassinates whomever he wants.But think about this:Syrsky - the main commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces - has his parents still living in Russia, and nobody is touching them.
>>536244036>crimeacrimea what? How is crimea related to my question about occupying all of Ukraine?
>>536244117Most westerners can’t put Ukraine on a map.
>>536244117>>536244172yeah most of all that care is fake-care.They used to care a lot about climate change at some point, now nobody gives a shit. Because they were given a new #trend to care about. 99% of people don't really give a shit about the topic that is popular. They participate in the topic for sake of community and social cohesion. Same shit applies to women's care about feminism. Most of them can't even explain what it is, but everyone is emotional about it.
>>536241246THE MISSILES ARE NOW IN CONTROL OF KIEV! UKRAINIANS ARE FLEEING TO THE HILLS!
>>536244130>Ukraine isn't a sophisticated hive-mind system that can operate militarily and politically without a queen bee.Zelensky doesn't do much except being a PR jolly joker for Ukraine funding.
>>536244023They've been doing that for more than 70 years now.
>>536244368>Zelensky doesn't do much except being a PR jolly joker for Ukraine funding.that's sort of true, but also not entirely trueI'd say he's more of a puppet for foreign forces that want the war to continue. We're in a situation now, where Ukraine itself would accept loss of territories in benefit of peace, but EU doesn't want to accept it under any circumstances. The "strategic defeat" of Russia is fundamentally a EU goal, and even the US doesn't want to participate in this stupidity anymore.Why? Because EU foreign policy is currently governed by the Butthurt Belt. It's the worst possible scenario, where the Loud Chihuahuas get to decide the future of the European continent. And you can guess what results they will achieve based on their size and loudness.
>>536241532Pretty much. One would hope that war would shock the system into change, but all it really does is kill a bunch of men and destroy regions, but never the types of financial metropoles that deserve to be destroyed, and increase overall retardation through the endless psyops and mutual bitching that ensue. Also makes the already fucked demographic situation worse. Meanwhile niggers continue nigging without consequence.
>>536244023>Putin realises that using a nuke would sink Russia even lower on the world stage.the "world stage" is an imaginary concept in your mind.Russia's relationship with most of the world didn't change. Only EU is acting like a bitch, and the EU is not "ze world".While USA's relationship with Russia is now volumes better than it was prior to the war/
>>536243981>Submitting to russia is literral ethnic suicideA large portion of the Donbass region are Russian speaking and Ukraine used to be part of Russia, take your cope back to plebbit where you came from along with your spacing, tourist.>>536244078>ukrainians are facing a fight or die anyway situationUkrainian men are being grabbed off the street to be forced into a meat grinder by the jew rat zelensky. Here is a website with literally thousands of videos of Ukrainian men being involuntarily and pointlessly sent to their deaths.https://busification.org/enWell, killing them is actually the point, as the end goal is to absorb Ukraine into Greater Israel, but you already know this don't you, kike stooge?
>>536244390A nuke would be a huge shock and it would have huge repercussions.Maybe bigger than back in the 40s, because people have been living in a largely pacified world, especially in developed countries.So the reaction against Russia would be massive.Putin must have realised he underestimated the reaction of the West to his invasion of Ukraine by now. If he dropped a nuke, he might have a next level of realisation.Really all he had to do was just declare victory, change the constitution again and say the objectives have been reached. Russians are cucked enough to accept that and they would expect some postwar economic relaxation.Dropping a nuke would just sink Russia deeper into shit. And still not get whatever it wanted in Ukraine.
>>536244566>A nuke would be a huge shock and it would have huge repercussions.>Maybe bigger than back in the 40s, because people have been living in a largely pacified world, especially in developed countries.>So the reaction against Russia would be massive.this is again a lot of empty wishful thinking words with no real examples. What would be the reaction exactly? List the mechanisms, actions, decisons, and consequences of those decisions not just for Russia but for the rest of the world.>Putin must have realised he underestimated the reaction of the West to his invasion of Ukraine by now. If he dropped a nuke, he might have a next level of realisation.again, lots of empty words, no examples.>Really all he had to do was just declare victory, change the constitution again and say the objectives have been reached.That's not for him to decide. Russia's military objectives are governed by the MoD, General Staff, and Security Council. And they are calculated decades ahead.>Dropping a nuke would just sink Russia deeper into shit. And still not get whatever it wanted in Ukraine.LMAO, again just empty statements, no real examples.
>>536244566If they go nuclear it has to be against NATO directly. The larping "Karaganov doctrine" is directed that way anyways. Of course, it's mostly cope, but if they escalate in that way it wouldn't do them any good to escalate just with Ukraine. At some point optics stop meaning anything, after enough escalation.
You know, this is like victimising someone.If Russia dropped one on Ukraine, they'd turn the whole country into a global martyr to be paraded in media for years to come.It would be impossible for a country to cheer on that without getting sanctioned into the ground.They're already squeezed hard by sanctions, in a post-nuke situation they'd reach N Korea level of prosperity
>>536244673>If Russia dropped one on Ukraine, they'd turn the whole country into a global martyr to be paraded in media for years to come.im pretty sure they have already done this since day 1
>>536244673Sanctions are a limited weapon, and it's not like they don't hurt the one imposing them as well. Also they have more of an effect before or in the early stages of escalation, otherwise they're more like a mechanism of detachment and ultimately enhance the standoff.The Russian economy is also better off going further into mobilization at some point.
>>536244651>List the mechanisms, actions, decisons, and consequences of those decisions not just for Russia but for the rest of the world.The shadow fleet Russia uses to still ship oil would be targeted by strikes. Not just politely impounded.Their embassies rescinded. No diplomatic links.They'd be thrown out of every competition.China would get sanctioned if they bought anything from RUssia including oil. Yeah even if that would damage Western economy, they would accept that as long as Russia would get punished.And without the Chinese market, Russia would implode in a few years.
>>536241246Kiev (Хyй in the native lingo) is not strategically important tho.
>>536244707It would be much more coherent though and there would be much less excuses for Russia in that case.
>>536244660That would be the end of Russia.Strategic bombers would be on top of Moscow in less than an hour and erase anything capable of launching missiles.Even if they'd miss mobile launchers etc, they'd pretty much put Russia on its knees.
>>536244673>If Russia dropped one on Ukraine, they'd turn the whole country into a global martyr to be paraded in media for years to come.Ukraine is already treated as a global martyr, but how does this help Ukraine? How does this help EU? And how does this hurt Russia?>It would be impossible for a country to cheer on that without getting sanctioned into the ground.Again, how does "cheering" help anyone, anywhere? >without getting sanctioned into the ground.They already tried and failed, because they realised that sanctioning the biggest country on the planet, who also represents 40% of Europe's entire landmass, leads to severe consequences for everyone, not only for Russia.EU's economy is in shambles, Germans are abandoning Germany (the supposed economic powerhouse of EU). We're also looking at a looming petrol/oil crisis. >They're already squeezed hard by sanctionsYet strangely their economy is doing fine, and growing faster than anyone in EU.>in a post-nuke situation they'd reach N Korea level of prosperityN Korea is a small region that is locked and lacks self-sufficiency. Russia is the exact opposite of that. To TLDR; summarize your entire ingenius analysis in a few words:>If Russia drops a nuke, everyone will call Russia bad names, which will make Russia very sad. Oh and then Russia will become North Korea.
>>536241246Man slavs really dropped the ball when it comes to war. Neither party would survive one week of 90s Balkan kino
>>536244767>Sanctions are a limited weaponSanctions impact less the richer states, as they have higher buffers of income to accept the damage.Someone living on a few thousand euros can accept losing a few hundreds in costs, while some poor fuck living in Russia could not afford to lose several hundred bucks from his pay
>>536241532>>536244523It hurts:( so true
>>536244831>The shadow fleet Russia uses to still ship oil would be targeted by strikes. Not just politely impounded.And Russia would respond by striking the strikers.>Their embassies rescinded. No diplomatic links.Russian embasies aren't really doing much in the west as of today either.>They'd be thrown out of every competition.Scary.>China would get sanctioned if they bought anything from RUssia including oil.Sanctioned by who? By people who are currently suffering an oil crisis? Do you genuinely believe EU can afford to sanction anyone today?>Yeah even if that would damage Western economy, they would accept that as long as Russia would get punished.What if Russia just won't care? >And without the Chinese market, Russia would implode in a few years.Why would China stop trading with Russia? Because China is scared of western sanctions? Do you even hear yourself?
Year 5 of gloves coming off and bear waking up
>>536244844its insane that thats what it would take but here we are
>>536244868Maybe. I'm not saying it would solve anything, though I also think you're a bit overconfident in your assumptions about the aftermath, including in your predictions regarding sanctions, geopolitics and economics are way too complex to assume such direct and zero-sum consequences. I'm more talking about what the Russian calculations might be in relation to the use of nuclear weapons, and what the more likely trajectory of escalation might be, not so much a clean position of what would happen and it's consequences.
>>536244914>how does this help Ukraine? How does this help EU? And how does this hurt Russia?How is the smaller country still in this war, after 4 years? How did Russia get droned so badly lately?Because Ukraine even with a smaller force can keep going just because it has secured funding from much bigger economies. Remember, between 2022-2025, the EU spent 0.29% of its economy and the USA 0.08% to match Russia’s 4.2%, in this war.
>>536244923>Sanctions impact less the richer stateswhere are these rich states you speak of? China? Do you understand the cost of living in EU?
>>536244078Ukranians are fighting for a small region of their country which is majority ethnic Russian and always votes Russia-aligned parties lmfaoThe war was unwinnable from the start, genuinely fucking retarded of Ukraine to align with NATO when their neighbour is Russia. This whole war was instigated by the west to internally destroy both Ukraine and Russia, and both of them fell in to the trap.But yes, keep falling for the propaganda, zelensky fights for democracy!! (ignore the fact that Ukraine is as corrupt as Russia)
>>536243727>Russia accompishing something of value?Seriously?
>>536244868That's bullshit, there's nothing magical about nukes, they are just really big bombs, that's it. In fact I'd say they are by far the most humane of all WMDs
>>536245060>How is the smaller country still in this warsmaller compared to whom?>How did Russia get droned so badly lately?is this "so badly" with us in the room right now? Doesn't seem like anyone in Russia cares and just goes on with their day.>Remember, between 2022-2025, the EU spent 0.29% of its economy and the USA 0.08% to match Russia’s 4.2%, in this war.and? Is Russia's economy suffering? Doesn't seem like it.
>won't have a single tangible impactBusified hohols care to disagree.https://busification.orgBack to /uhg/ tranny.
>>536245039>And Russia would respond by striking the strikers.Well their ships are already getting captured. Yesterday the French arrested one in the Atlantic. When is Russia striking France?>By people who are currently suffering an oil crisis?Europe and USA don't depend much on the Gulf for oil. The crisis fucks mostly Asian countries in terms of oil supply.But since the oil market is global, prices rise everywhere.Again, who can afford to lose a few hundred bucks from their pay more? An American or some Chinese?>Because China is scared of western sanctions?Chinese banks already avoid doing business with Russia for fear of sanctions. So yeah it's already a thing.Why do you think there's no credit going from China to Russia to fund the war?
>>536244923I actually see it the other way - the poorer populations are less integrated into the broader system anyways, while richer ones have a much lower threshold for financial strain, especially if not directly involved in the conflict. The developments thusfar demonstrate this if anything, with the increasing wavering in support for Ukraine the longer the war lasts, in the broader populations, or at least an increased demoralization and confusion in positions, compared to the first year or so. Trump's victory was largely a symptom of this, as has been the significant loss in legitimacy of the traditional European centrist status quo.
>>536241246>Russia's big scary missile attack on Kiev happened tonightThey blew up a farmfield again?
>>536244485The problem is that Russia keeps arrogantly saying "One day we will take Ukraine" which means there is zero possibility of peace. There is no point to a temporary peace that everyone knows will just lead to Russia invading 3 years later except this time with 50,000,000 drones to destroy everything
>>536245043It's usually insane shit that makes a difference, good or bad. Otherwise things are limited to internal political shit testing and debates that degrade over time.
>>536242288Nukes fake. Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki wooden cities that got firebombed. Japan surrendered due to B29 flying to high for zeros and the incoming soviet invasion.
>>536245131>Is Russia's economy suffering? Doesn't seem like it.https://www.reuters.com/business/russias-economy-shows-first-quarterly-contraction-three-years-2026-04-29/
>>536245131>Russia's economy isn't sufferingThanks for outting yourself as just another Zigger
>>536245166>Well their ships are already getting captured. Yesterday the French arrested one in the Atlantic. When is Russia striking France?1 ship arrested will damage Russia's economy for 100 years to come, surely.The plans are on the table:>start escorting oil tankers with military ships>deploy armed mercenary groups akin to Wagner onto those tankers, and shoot whomever tries to capture itI don't know to what extent these are being implemented, but there was some evidence in recent months that this is slowly being implemented.>Again, who can afford to lose a few hundred bucks from their pay more? An American or some Chinese?Americans, because Chinese don't earn dollars. You still don't seem to understand that economies are not entirely internationalised, and a lot of things like pricing or quality of life also depends on internal supply and production. China has a very solid strategy of partnering with Russia, and if the west attemps to punish China for it, the Chinese leadership will perceive it as a declaration of economic war by the west against China, first and foremost. And react to it in that manner. If you think China will act like the west's bitch, you're really delusional.>Why do you think there's no credit going from China to Russia to fund the war?Why do you think there's no credit going from China to Ukraine to fund the war?
>>536245232They're also increasingly stuck politically. It's not like things can return to pre-2022 or even less pre-2014 depoliticization of the population. The more Russians die and the population is economically strained, and the more the economy is militarized, the more they have to double down and compensate with actual geopolitical results, which necessitates escalation.
>>536245131Insane takes. Does Russia need to cease to exist for you to see problems there?
>>536245204>the poorer populations are less integrated into the broader system anywaysTell that to Sri Lanka that went bankrupt a few years ago due to rising debt and impossibility of paying for fuel imports.For such states, a few billions less in their budget can make or break the country.Look at how India gets crippled by the Hormuz crisis. A lot of their economy cannot function without enough gas and oil imports.
>>536245251>https://www.reuters.com/business/russias-economy-shows-first-quarterly-contraction-three-years-2026-04-29/https://www.statista.com/statistics/263621/gross-domestic-product-gdp-growth-rate-in-russia/again, SCARYsee >>536245310
>>536245397>Insane takes. Does Russia need to cease to exist for you to see problems there?is russia struggling with its current existence or something? The most insane take is that you tryhard to project western efforts to hurt Russia as successful. Whereas in reality it's business-as-usual levels of problems that occured before the war, during the war, and will occur after the war.
>>536245430Yeah they flatlined since 2024. I wonder why is that.
>>536245495>Yeah they flatlined since 2024. I wonder why is that.yeah it's weird how they had a much worse situation in 2009, 2015, 2021, than they do in 2022-2026makes you think
I'm sorry but ths is just way too funny>2022 - Russia's economy will collapse>2023 - Russia's economy will collapse>2024 - Russia's economy will collapse>2025 - Russia's economy will collapse>2026 - Russia's economy contracted by 0.3^%
>>536245408Those are poorer countries that are more reliant on the global system for key imports. What we're discussing are populations and their political will in this war. Russia isn't Sri Lanka or India and the issues you brought up are just different.The point here is - can sanctions limit the Russian economy enough, to where already deprived and relatively integrated populations within Russia would be affected to the point of revolt? And more broadly, would the relative impoverishment have a greater impact morally there or in western populations? My position is that it's not clear that there's much more sanctions can do on the ground than they already have, or at least not enough to push things in an anti-establishment direction. They also don't have a unidirectional impact, they can also strengthen support for Putin,uch like strategic bombing can have the opposite effect of what's intended, or a limited one at least.
>>536242288Checked and keked
>>536245538Those were all financial crises, due to US mortage prime crash, oil prices and sanctions and the pandemic.But now Russia no longer has much in terms of cash reserves. It used up most of the national wealth fund on the war. And recently it even sold some gold to prop up the ruble.What could they do to fund their deficit? Sell some more gold? Just regular oil sales are not enough anymore. And nobody is lending Russia money to the tune of tens of billions.So they will have to take their population's deposits or something like that.The country is a lot more drained than it was in those years. A lot of buffers have been depleted and Russia is much more isolated and sanctioned now. So it can't buy itself a way out of this by selling 'more oil'. To whom? And through which ports and refineries? In April they lost like 15% in oil output to drone attacks.
>>536245489It's not just sanctions, but the effects of an increasingly militarized economy. I'm not classes ming that they're collapsing, by the way, but that there are definite constraints and pressures on their economy, and imbalances caused by the need for economic restructuring around their military industrial complex. The idea that things are business-as-usual, and comparable to pre-2022 trends is just nonsense, and merely looking at GDP numbers and pushing the goalpost to apocalyptic standards is just nonsense.
>>536245616Yes sanctions have had results and are limiting Russia's ability to fund its war.Nobody expects Russians to revolt, they never do.But they do have a funding shortage.Why do you think they raised VAT and taxes on firms?
>>536245802I agree with this. My argument is just specifically with regard to the effects of sanctions on morale and the limits thereof, not regarding the point of sanctions at all.
>>536245615Do you have any idea how big 0.3% is? 0.3% of our economy is the size of your entire shithole’s GDP.
>>536246052If you compare it with Zimbabwe or my village in Bulgaria it's even better. Good job.
>>536242288they were, but it requires so much computer processing power to monitor depreciation and material interactions that the maintenance costs alone puts a sizable hole in even the largest countries pocketbook
>>536245801>looking at GDP numbers and pushing the goalpost to apocalyptic standards is just nonsense.very nice phrase, you should pound this one into this retard's tiny brain >>536245751>And nobody is lending Russia money to the tune of tens of billions.to be fair nobody is lending money to Ukraine either, if you'd be honest with yourself.Everyone in EU knows that the money they give to Ukraine will never return. Ukraine just can't pay any of that back. Ukraine's entire GDP is $190 billion. Imagine taking credit x3 times of what your entire worth is.>But now Russia no longer has much in terms of cash reserves. It used up most of the national wealth fund on the war. And recently it even sold some gold to prop up the ruble.That's sad. I guess Ukraine is saved now, right? Soon Russia will stop advancing on the frontlines, and soon Russians will rebel against Putin or something.Wake up.>To whom? Russian oil sales have increased since the start of the Hormuz crisis. You know why?Because no matter how much you try to LARP sanctions and beat yourself in the chest about how you will punish Russia - in the end geography is geography, physics is physics, and countries need to buy energy more, than they need to support whatever the fuck EU tries to achieve in Ukraine.
>>536246052>Do you have any idea how big 0.3% is? 0.3% of our economy is the size of your entire shithole’s GDP.and if you compare it to Malta, it's basically over
>>536246147>Everyone in EU knows that the money they give to Ukraine will never return.Not true.Russia is paying for it from proceeds on their frozen Euroclear assets. And will continue to do so for years unless they pay reparations. Those assets will stay frozen.>Soon Russia will stop advancing on the frontlinesPicrel is already happening>Russian oil sales have increased since the start of the Hormuz crisis. That's the thing. They haven't. In April they sold less oil year-on-year, due to drone strikes on their terminals.So Russia can;t take advantage much of this Hormuz windfall. That's why Ukrops are intensifying attacks to make sure they dont gain much from oil prices. And since they only added like 2bn dollars to the national wealth fund from oil sales, that shows how limited the gains were from March.
>>536246351>ISW There's shitloads of war mappers and indepedent OSINTers, and nobody takes ISW seriously.I genuinely hope you're not looking at charts for battlefield news. Are you?>already happeningare you clinically retarded or just pretending? Konstiantynivka has at best a week of Ukrainian presence left in it. (and yes this is fairly new development)While multiple vehicles and outposts are now being spammed by Russian weapons in Kramatorsk, because as of several days ago, Russians are 9km away from Slovyansk and Kramatorsk - both of which are considered the last remaining cities in Donbass that still have importance for Ukraine.Zelensky already warned Syrsky, that he will replace him, if he loses those 2 cities. Hence Syrsky personally arrived there to prepare defenses. You don't do that, unless your enemy is advancing.>>536246351>That's the thing. They haven't.about $9.3 billion extra in March alone from Russian oil exports, compared with February. KSE says Russia’s oil export revenues jumped from roughly $9.7bn in February to $19.0bn in MarchMarch extra: $9.3bnApril revenue: $19.18bnFebruary baseline: about $9.7bnApril extra: about $9.48bnTotal March + April extra: about $18.8bnThat uses the IEA-reported April figure that Russian crude and petroleum shipment revenue rose to $19.18bn, slightly above March’s $19bn.
so, disregarding your hysteria, what you're saying is that hundreds of missiles and drones are raining down on kiev daily now, every nato air defense system in existence is powerless to even hinder it, and no one really careswhich reminds me, amsterdam is three times smaller than kiev, isn't it.
>>536246726>Russians are 9km away from Slovyansk and Kramatorsk
It should be clear as day with at least an iota of braincells that EU and Ukraine fucked up big time.1. First EU didn’t want to help foster a diplomatic solution to the Donbass crisis, and as Merkel admitted later, the whole point of lying to Putin about the Minsk agreements was to win time for Ukraine to arm itself and prepare for war.2. Once Russia realised it’s being swindled by EU, it launched a relatively bloodless SMO with just one demand: for Ukraine to sign its neutrality status into its constitution and reduce its military build-up. 3. EU thought it could use this opportunity to permanently eliminate Russia’s presence on the continent. And undertook the “strategic defeat for Russia” doctrine.4. Ended up :- destroying German jobs and heavy industry- depriving Ukraine of ~30% of its population and ~20% of its territory- causing (in total from all sides) well over a million casualties, by some estimates could be well up to 2.5 million casualties total- losing hundreds of billions of EU taxpayer money with no return- placing all of Europe into permanent war-scare, and now telling everyone that EU must be prepared to go to war against Russia in 2030. Which in turn causes Russia to prepare to go to war against EU same deadline.And all of this for what? So they could swindle Russia in 2014 during and after Maidan?Political competence over 9000.And the hilarious part? Ukraine's bigger supporter (Poland) considers Ukrainians to be Nazis too.Let me give you all a recap:1. Maidan happened because Yanukovich refused to join EU or follow EU's integration requirements.2. EU supported Nazi units to suppress the anti-EU sentiment in Ukraine.3. 12 years later4. EU doesn't want Ukraine, because there's too many Nazis there.
>>536245225>Just another big wave of missiles (like the hundreds before it) that won't have a single tangible impact on the progress in the war.>Russia's big scary missile attack on Kiev happened tonight>They blew up a farmfield again?Keeyoov status.https://files.catbox.moe/uvibrk.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/7go9kv.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/nn8ll3.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ae2mv3.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ycyyit.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/faoefd.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/z9omsf.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/okd6gd.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/sku7g1.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/rijhz7.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/m4m8sl.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ccva0x.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/8qoyct.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/wxw8qc.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/n6im9g.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/rvy71a.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/re808a.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/07ecqc.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/nbhj6d.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/juu4p7.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/riqzpj.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/or0zue.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/l0l33n.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/s5k6h0.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/f16fcy.mp4
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>>536247285kek
>>536247768Anything it takes to get it done.And again, the EU barely felt anything from all that expense.While Russia is close to financial crunch.Russia failed to block NATO from expansion. It now has 2 extra NATO states on its borders.And failed to regime change Kiev. So it will have a hostile regime in perpetuity there. That will inevitably join the EU.And then what will have been achieved? With almost half a million dead Russians and all the treasury gone? Not even 4 extra counties in Ukraine.And a world looking to de-fossilise, which will make Russia even poorer in the future.The only people who have a future in Russia are churkas and Kavkaz muslims. But they might not like that rule from Moscow anymore, after they had most of the losses in this war. There's gonna be a bill to be paid to those people. But no money left.
>>536241246A list of some of the facilities that were hit last night.In Kyiv:- Recruitment Center No. 8041 in Kyiv.- The Ukroboronprom plant in Kyiv.- The Darnytskyi concrete plant in Kyiv.- The automobile workshop of the Mayak plant in Kyiv.- Nova Poshta warehouse No. 17 in Kyiv.- The industrial zone on Vasylkivska Street in Kyiv.- Warehouses of the Vyshneve logistics center on the outskirts of Kyiv.- The Esmash plant, Kyiv.- The Generator plant, Kyiv.Other regions:- A gas processing plant in Poltava Oblast.- The Shebelinsky gas processing plant, Kharkiv Oblast.- The Motor Sich plant in Zaporizhzhia.- The Zaporizhtransformator transformer plant in Zaporizhzhia.- The YuMZ trolleybus depot in Dnipro.The list is incomplete, since it does not take into account hits on certain facilities in Hostomel, as well as an oil depot in Rivne, etc.But it is already obvious that this was one of the most painful strikes against Ukraine over the past year.
>>536247854Oh no 10 Ukrops died, how will they recover
More like at least a 1000 every confrontation.
>>536248457>Anything it takes to get it done.get what done? A continental war? A nuclear war? What exactly?>And again, the EU barely felt anything from all that expense.Germans are leaving Germany now with no intent to return. Foreigners don't want to move to EU to work. Actual EU citizens increasingly getting crunched by austerity, with Purchasing Power significantly getting hammered.Nowadays, in some EU countries 2k-3k euro salary is barely enough to get by, and not enough to start a family. You can forget about buying an apartment.>While Russia is close to financial crunch.Russia has been close to a financial crunch for 300+ years of its history. But it still today is x50 times better off than it was in early 2000s.>Russia failed to block NATO from expansion.How did the act of expanding NATO benefit NATO? Do you think citizens of NATO countries feel better at the prospects of war becoming higherFor all the founders of NATO, like Germany, France, UK - how does taking on more responsibilities over the security of other regions benefit them?The bigger NATO becomes, the more flimsy Article 5 becomes. >And failed to regime change Kiev. So it will have a hostile regime in perpetuity there.How does that benefit NATO, or Ukraine? I don't think having missiles falling on your head 24/7 is a good life style. But maybe it is for you.Here in Lithuania we had our first air alert, and were all forced to go into basements by the government and corporations. Reason? A stray Ukrainian drone, which we paid for. My tax money is used to push me into basements. Amazing.>And then what will have been achieved? With almost half a million dead Russians and all the treasury gone? Not even 4 extra counties in Ukraine.What do you mean? See picrel>And a world looking to de-fossiliseLMA fuckingO>The only people who have a future in Russia are churkas and Kavkaz muslimsand about 50% of all western Europeans, if you look at what has been done to western Europe.
>>536241246No one gives a fuck about Ukraine dawg. Maybe go hang out with the easily outraged trannies on reddit or /k/.
>>536241246Ru side announced all targets week ago to ua side. They evacuated anything important
Kek russia is an international joke
>>536249130if so, why are your politicians shitting their pants and keep talking about Total Defense doctrines against Russia in 2030?
>>536249130Dude, they have mega smart plan. 1. By announcing targets and be weak, elites can still live in eu and usa2. Thanks to war, ru top elites become x5 rich3. No more lefts, they all either run or was arrested 4. Christian dream happened. No more global internet or culture Everything is banned now in ru. They're fucking return to 18 century now. They no longer even watch movies, since russia gov ordered to cut everything from movies. Including soviet movies They can't even read manga, watch anime. Since it's banned and their pirate website must delete 70% of content.
>>536249196why are you spamming this thread instead of going back to your beloved russia
It's a big jail now. Fucking jail. But at least, empire fags and right wings are happy
>>536241246Why does a Moroccan or Suriname Knee Grow care about shitty Slavs?
>>536249299>why are you spamming this thread instead of going back to your beloved russiawhy are you so scared of answering questions?Many people will go back to Russia soon, this might include you. Niggers will be raping your women 24/7
>>536249352someones mad kek have another drink
>>536249440>someones madmajority of EU's population
Kill all russian shills.
Putler is a weak Botox Troon. Just coup him
>>536249624let me guess, you never held a gun in your life, and you squirm like a girl when a bee approaches you
>>536249714>you squirm like a girl when a bee approaches youI do. I really love bees.
>>536249714And, kill all russian shills. Like you in particular. Disgusting piece of shit that you are.
>>536243531>Translation: nothing will changeFixed that for you.
>>536244078>"Don't join NATO">"oy vey it's anudda shoah"
>>536246351Fuck off shillRussia has alot of western oil assets they can sieze. When they do the price of oil will go through the roof.You faggots are trying to start WW3
>>536252042>Russia has alot of western oil assets they can sieze.Which ones?
>>536252042>Russia has alot of western oil assets they can sieze.Again, which ones?
>>536252949World of Tanks tokens
>>536252949Too many to list faggot shill. You must be some kind of retard.Exxon, Chevron, you name the company.Leased offshore rigs, pipelines, transfer depots, all have international partners.Here is just one example>The Kiev regime had earlier attacked the pumping station on Feb. 17, and then hit a CPC transfer station in the Kavkazskaya stanitsa (rural locality) on March 19 “a few hours after the Russian President agreed to accept the proposal of his American counterpart on temporary ceasefire against energy infrastructure of Ukraine.” Reuters reported on March 24 that a fire was still raging at the transfer station five days after it was hit. The CPC transports crude oil from Kazakhstan over Russian territory to a terminal on the Black Sea and includes Chevron and Exxon among its shareholders.
>>536246107unless russia is hidign the tune of 100B dollars yearly, they literally can not afford to maintain their nuke pile, assuming nukes were real, they arent. One button pushing of armageddon is a crock of shit you can only sell once
>>536253552So. What you are saying is that Russia will seize the burning, destroyed oil infrastructure and this will somehow affect anyone, in any way?
>>536253552>The CPC transports crude oil from Kazakhstan over Russian territory to a terminal on the Black SeaShow the black sea oil terminal that Russia can seize?
>>536253799>show me!Stop pretending you want to have a discussion tranny faggot shill. You know nothing about the oil buisness.Here is a list of investors in another Russian pipeline company.Oh look! Blackrock and frens>https://www.investing.com/equities/transneft-p_rts-ownership
>>536254090I'm waiting for you to show which assets Russia can seize so I can post video of those assets burning to the ground already. You're full of shit. You don't know shit. You haven't got any shit to backup your shit. Now post seizable assets so I can btfo of you or fuck off you useless piece of shit.
Ukraine was bombed to ruins years ago. There's nothing left but smoking blown up shacks and craters full of rubble to keep hitting.
>>536254387I sure hope not. I'm going there this week on holiday.
>>536254264Oil companies sell shares(Crazy right?)If you werent a retarded pinko commie faggot shill you would know that.But you are here to lie and spread disinformation>show me what they can sieze!I already linked one example, why are you pretending everyone cant see whats in front of thier eyes?>The Caspian Pipeline Consortium (CPC) announced that oil pumping through the Kavkazskaya oil pumping station in Russia's Krasnodar Krai
>>536254264And the US Pentagon says Russia has had no problem repairing oil infrastructure, faggot shill.>Celeste Wallander, the US Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, was asked about the tactics and Washington’s concerns regarding them, during a congressional hearing.>Responding to Representative Carlos Gimenez, the Pentagon official said that “so far” the approach did not seem to have affected the Russian military.>“The strikes that we have seen against Russian energy sources have not significantly altered Russia’s ability to prosecute the war,” she said.>“The evidence we’ve seen is that the Russians have been able to rapidly repair the facilities that were struck,” she added, when the Democratic representative from Florida asked whether such attacks could have a greater impact in the future.
>>536255120Why is Russia buying fuel from Belarus if it can fix it's refineries?
>>536255017I own plenty of shares in an oil company.
>>536255017>Kavkazskaya oil pumping station in Russia's Krasnodar KraiThis oil pumping station?
No one gives a fuck about anyone or anything in Europe at all.Total fag continent.
>>536255351Why do you have a bullshit propaganda meme with different font sizes?
>>536255984You prefer a Reuters link? >https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/belarus-ramps-up-fuel-exports-gasoline-thirsty-russia-2025-10-07/
>>536243762It doesn't matter its not what is going to be written in the history books. Hell 2/3rds of ukraine population can dissapear it'll still be written as ukranian angel defense against russian devils. They not going to call it ukranian genocide like they did with cambodian genocide. Cause the west is writing what it puts in the books for the citizens in its hegemon.
>>536256159>industry sources told Reuters on Tuesday.>may reach up toFuck you and your glownigger propaganda>oh look it says some anon said maybe!>That proofs it!
>>536259476Cope faggot. Russian oil infrastructure burns nightly. They have NO defence against it.
>>536259893Funny how every report says out of 50 drones 3 or 4 got through.
>>536241246Russia lost.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEL9fqCESgM
>>536241246hey they destroyed a chinesium car dealership
>>536241246Sounds like you're just trying to get out ahead of this desuAny anons have content of the bombing?
>>536261459>every reportEvery russian report. You must be new to the oxcart of shit that is russian lies. Thankfully we have plenty photographs, videos and satellite imagery to prove them wrong.
