Everyone implicitly believes in a God. Even the atheists. If they are so certain, why do they spend so much time talking about it?
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>>536259839thing is no God is needed to make the universe work.
>>536260855You literally have that 100% wrong in that the oposite is the case
>>536261937nope
>>536259839The Atheist's Hymn>I swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell.
>>536260855I'm glad you presume the external world and objective epistemology that gives you truth claims
>>536263316Yes
>>536263316God in His wisdom put you on this Earth so that today you will show what simpletons atheists are.
well at least my god isn't a fucking jew
>>536263545>be OP>find a way to pretend atheism is a myth>use toddler tier circular reasoning>think you actually did somethingthis isnt even a debate, it's just a cry for attention.now go outside and touch some grass instead of hallucinating deities on an imageboard.
>>536263695You're iq must be 110. That's pretty cringe.
>>536263613>God put me here to prove atheists are simpletonshow exactly does my existence prove your invisible deity exists?try again brainlet, but use actual logic this time instead of fanfiction.
>>536259839They have faith even though they deny it. faith/fāTH/noun1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something.>>536260855>Universe just made it's self
>>536263783>can't refute my point>resorts to low IQ insults
Because you keep on spawning retarded humans teaching them retarded beliefs
>>536259839It's a pretty big leap to pretend a magic dead jewish rabbi invented the universe.
>>536263613God makes athiests?
>>536263783The supposedly smart christians have wierd ideas. It's all heretical and against mainstream christianity. 110 and lower are the loyal goyīm.
>>536259839>If they are so certain, why do they spend so much time talking about it?How does this follow? Why does talking about something make you uncertain?
>>536263879imagine being such a casual that you dont understand non equilibrium thermodynamics. dissipative structures emerge from energy gradients and complex patterns arise naturally from entropy production in open systems.its called self organization via thermodynamics you mouth breather.Its not magic and no magical jew in the sky is needed in these physics. get educated.
>>536264170So you have model to show how the universe made itself? Do show it you'll win a Nobel prize. If not stop pretending you are educated.
>>536264435>wants a finished theory so he doesnt have to think>thinks asking for a Nobel Prize is a winning argumentliterally braindead
>>536259839religion are for those spiritually weakliterally just meditateits not that hard to achieve clarity
>>536260855sure but God is not about matter, he's about what matters
>>536259839cause I live in a majority christian country full of retards who believe in jews that walk on water and split the red sea
>>536259839how do you know atheists spend much time talking about god?
>>536263879nah nigga the universe has always existed. Ya know how you justify your god
>>536259839>chantard>ChristianChoose one.
>>536259839Yeah religious people show their true beliefs by shutting up about their faith.Lol. Lmao even
>>536259839As always believers challenging and provoking atheists speaking about fairy tales...as OP started again.
The modern atheist says he does not believe in God, yet he lives by faith in money: paper printed from nothing, numbers conjured onto screens, abstractions treated as sacred because the priests of finance declare them valuable.He gives his time to it.He gives his labour to it.He gives his obedience to it.He gives his life to it.They will deny that this is worship, but their entire atheists world view bows before Mammon. The central-banking debt-slavery system is not merely an economic arrangement; it is a religion with temples, priests, rituals, punishments, sacrifices, and commandments.And its sacrifices are not symbolic. Through taxation, debt, inflation, and obedience to the state, the people are made to fund the war machine: bombs, bullets, sanctions, occupations, and the machinery that burns the children of the world on the altar of Jewish central banking debt slavery.They call it policy.They call it defence.They call it national interest.But it is blood sacrifice to Mammon — a demonic financial order that consumes the innocent while its worshippers insist they believe in nothing at all. But they have faith in money, the made up idea of wealth and bits of paper.Atheists are the most retarded people in existence, ever.
>>536265231God>Invisible>Provides nothing tangible>Requires faith because there's no evidence>Makes bets with Satan and leaves him in charge of the world, lolMoney>Legal tender>Evidence based utility>Gets you a place to live, food, pussy l, entertainment>Outs anyone who has enough of it in charge of the worldYour god loses to a little piece of cotton.
>>536265231It's not that deep, anon. I use money because it's convenient and a natural consequence of living in larger societies. Work needs to be rewarded, so you're given money that you can cash in at a later date for someone else's work, and everyone prospers. If it were blind faith, money would always be valuable, but there's numerous examples in history of money becoming so worthless people stop using them entirely.
>>536260259>omniscient>omnipotent>immutableThe problem is that this does not only rob humans of any choice, as Calvinists correctly recognised, but also god himself.
>>536259839>why do they spend so much time talking about it?Atheism+ nuked the atheist movement. I had no idea they were still talking.
>>536259839Most people don't
>>536259839Even if a god exists, it wouldn't be any of the Abrahamic gods because if either one were to be true, then all their believers would be burning in worms, shit and eternal fire after they die. Also dead children would also go to hell for eternity for not knowing their messiah due to the original sin according to their theology, and so then that would imply that their god is not a just god therefore it can't be true.
Giant flying pasghetti monster
>>536259839I don't believe in any god.
>>536265917>The problem is that this does not only rob humans of any choice, as Calvinists correctly recognisedTrue.>but also god himself.False.
>>536266765None of the holy books are true. It's weird that god never mentions that other worlds or species exist. All Jesus has to do was casually mention that other planets exist and suddenly the bible would be completely different. But he never does.
>>536267030Also, no Calvinist will say humans have no choice, they will say humans will always choose what's bad.
>>536267069At least in the great scheme of things.
>>536267054>It's weird that god never mentions that other worlds or species existIt does mention them, it calls them demons.>All Jesus has to do was casually mention that other planets exist>and suddenly the bible would be completely differentPeople already knew planets existed at that time, are you serious?
atheists are created by the nauseating presence of retarded golems who go way beyond deism and claim things like a bunch of sandniggers inherited the manual for how to live and if you don't take them seriously you are beneath them, as well as a triple digit IQ
crossniggers and the rest of the abrahamic retards won't shut the fuck up about their fake, gay religions. they force it into every interaction with anyone anywhere at any time, like trannies do.
>>536267180That cannot be proven because it's not mentioned in great detail. Most of the time religious priests are extrapolating and making stories out of verses for their own benefit. Differing denominations exist because they have different stories made out of the same verses.
>>536267291>they force it into every interaction with anyone anywhere at any timeNever seen a Christian doing that, but I did see many atheists trying to "debunk" God after someone used a phrase like "God willing" or "God bless you", LFMAO
There is a God, you can talk to Him with this communicator watch.
>>536259839Im a Christian but what you are saying is cope. Most atheists don't implicitly believe in God. Most don't talk about it. You're coping where you do not need to. Do not concern yourself with them beyond what you might be able to do to help them.
>>536267344>That cannot be proven because it's not mentioned in great detail.Really? To me the Bible is very clear about it.>Romans 8:28–30>And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.>For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.>Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.So God called them, according to his purpose, he foreknew them. He predestinated them to be conformed to the image of His Son. Those he predestinated he also called them, and those he called he justified through Jesus' sacrifice, and them he also glorified... Seems pretty clear to me.
>>536267180I meant extra solar planets, you fucking retard. There is no life in the rest of our solar system. The universe must have an uncountable number of species of intelligent life. They aren't all demons. You godfags are so fucking dumb holy shit.
>>536267694>The universe must have an uncountable number of species of intelligent life.Prove it.>I meant extra solar planets>N-ooo I didn't mean what I meantlol
>>536259839>If they are so certain, why do they spend so much time talking about it?bWhy do christcucks?They literally talk about jesus non-stop and we let you know...Does that reek of insecurity and a constant need to be validated because they know, deep down, they're BSing themselves and everyone around them.
>>536267650That doesn't say anything about other planets, other worlds and other species. If they at least mentioned anything, something related to a big ball of rock in the heavens revolving around the sun and causing seasons to change then maybe, but there's literally nothing.
>>536265231>The modern atheist says he does not believe in God, yet he lives by faith in money: paper printed from nothing, numbers conjured onto screens, abstractions treated as sacred because the priests of finance declare them valuable.Motherfucker, a lot of atheists are libertarian types who hate fed. You're ignoring Objectivism again. An entire philosophy of atheists who hate the Feds.
>>536259839I believe in more than one and none of them are all-powerful
>magic sky daddy is real and all powerful and omnipotentbet you believe in santa claus and the tooth fairy too, atheism is literally the only valid belief if you don't believe in magic
>>536267928>That doesn't say anything about other planetsI thought you had marked my stuff about predestination, not about aliens, lol.I don't care about aliens, it doesn't really matter to me. But I'm pretty sure they don't exist.
>>536267389christkikes truly are fucking idiots
>>536264552>Can't follow argument>Still no proof the universe made itselfSad>>536264895>evidence shows universe had a beginning>universe always existed because atheism >>5362648681st day on the internet? >>536266112The faith of an atheist is strong
>>536259839Why are christfags like this?why do you assume that other people share your magical beliefs?I don't "implicitly" believe in God's because of the simple fact that I don't believe in magic. I reject the notion of supernatural entities or forces being anything more than fantasies imagined by humans thus I fundamentally cannot believe in any gods.
>>536266112No one cares about atheism+... atheists aren't a monolothic group, most have never heard of it.
This guy is a fucking retard lmao
>>536267030>False.immutable : not capable of or susceptible to changeAn omnipotent mutable god could change the meaning of the word immutable. But you are not god and according to you god is immutable, so he can't change shit, by definition.For god to be omnipotent and immutable all his decisions are in his being, determinism in heaven as in on earth.
>>536269358>god is immutablePredestination does not assume that. But even if it did, God is perfect, thus he wouldn't need to change.
>>536267750Okay. Then God made an entire universe full of empty planets. Funny he never mentions it once. You're beyond retarded.
>>536259839>why do they spend so much time talking about it?You made this thread lol
>>536263879Incorrect. I have reasonable expectations.
>>536259839Good point...>>536260855Exactly... Real democracy would do but the average human scum is still so empty and dumb that it can't. >>536263649Mine neither and never ever could be again.>>536263994Rofl... Yep...>>536265231Nice and all true but we are weak beings, we were made to believe that we need certain things, and what should I say, we do... If we are offered comfort before free hard survival we, most of every biological being will opt for comfortable surviving, wouldn't it? Even plants would do so. And what is so bad about it? Only the greed and disregard of a few retards with their dick and cunt issues (lol). And if the retards die off in functioning societies, because they understood the twist (lol) they still have shit loads of have-nots in Africa, India or some other shit holes. >>536265917Yep! So God is invented (at least in our world)>>536266954And your society still works quite good, which I do like :)
>>536268179>>evidence shows universe had a beginningOur current understanding of what we think is a beginning.>>universe always existed because atheismNo one actually makes this argument. Try less strawman
>>536268057Yup. You're retarded. A typical christnigger. You can't even comprehend how big the universe is. Aliens certainly exist. To argue otherwise is pure absurdity. You actually believe God made trillions of trillions of galaxies of empty planets. That makes sense to you.
>>536259839The thought that in an endless time and space two rendom atoms would/will with 100% certainty one day will hit each other without any underlying rule, for me is GOD enough. For me this is an absolutely overwhelming even comforting idea in every aspect I can imagine or ever think about. I concider humans as absolute shit, basically. Not even worth sunlight. But that's a whole different story.
>>536270624>Aliens certainly existProve it. I'm still waiting for your proof. You criticize Christians because they have faith, yet you believe in Aliens.
>>536271851Yeah. Actually it is the same idea. Isn't it? Whether it's Alians or God, what difference does it make, if you dare to think it all the way through? :) What you are (quite understandable) holding on so desperately are the rules of your God, don't you? Which were made by humans, btw.
>>536268216>I reject the notion of supernatural entities or forces being anything more than fantasies imagined by humans thus I fundamentally cannot believe in any gods.This is just too honest for them. Theism is about wishful thinking wrapped up as social manipulation. They're bullshitting everyone, themselves included, hoping it will pay off with a bigger/better reward of some kind.
>>536259839NO THEY DONT YOU LYING CHILD RAPING RAT FUCK NIGGERJESUS CHRIST IS A NON OMNIPOTENT CHILD RAPING RAT FUCK NIGGER THIEF WHO IS BUYING TIME TO KEEP RAPING PEOPLE LIKE MEANYONE WHO BELEIVES IN A GOD IS A STUPID AND EVIL RAPIST WHO IS IN ON IT.FUCK THE CHILD RAPING NON OMNIPOTENT NIGGER JESUS THERE IS NO OMNIPOTENCE
>why do they spend so much time talking about it?Attention seeking like a female, fame, money
>>536272557All righty. Just. r e l a x ! It's all okay, trust me! Rofl...
>>536259839Doesn't matter really does it? One monkey says gather up for control over others, the other monkey says buy their book, it's all just dumb monkey games for control and resource acquisition.
>>536269485>I can quit being immutable any time I like, I just don't want to
>>536271851>Prove it.To the best of our current knowledge the universe is infinite (flat). In an infinite universe guided by chance, if life is possible at all, it will occur infinite times.
maybe everyone irish/pakistani and brainwashed from birth by some kike cultthe default position is no belief at alla baby who isn't taught about a secret, invisible fifth limb called the mooglee doesn't innately believe in a secret, invisible fifth limba baby who isn't taught about a god doesn't believe in a godthere is no god, you're just a narcissist who wants to feel important, special, designed, created, watched, loved. you want to feel like someone has a space waiting for you to live for eternity in a magic paradise because you're just that amazingnope
>>536273319It's not flat, just because you are a shallow flat retarded human doesn't make the Universe flat, you nigger.
>>536267389>describes christians doing exactly this>christians don't do this!
>>536273330And this!
>>536259839Deep down atheists know sucking another man’s dick is deviant behavior. It’s all cope.
>>536259839he is buddies with epstein, dont care
>why do they spend so much time talking about it?please cite your study that shows that "atheists" (whatever these are) spend a statistically significant excess of time talking about Mr. God than anyone else. Christians spend at least 1 hour per week talking about God and Muslims several times per day. They even have special buildings where they do nothing but talk about God. Is there a church of atheism where I go to talk about the non-existence of God? Such thing does not exist.
