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America resumes war with Iran:
>America loses troops, money, and fails to topple regime. Back to square one but with added political turmoil.
America makes a deal with Iran:
>Iran gains immense wealth, power, prestige. They are stronger than before the war and will aid in Israel's destruction with renewed efficiency.
America ignores the situation:
>Global financial crisis due to oil shortage. Everyone blames the US, Israel and Trump. The US empire ends and the world changes drastically.

Check mate.
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>>536262515
The color revolution that was supposed to come before the bombing campaign was completely rolled up by Iran. Iran shut down the internet, then triangulated all the starlink terminals, then jammed the remaining starlink network. So all the Mossad and CIA niggers got rolled up and imprisoned then hung. So that meant there was no domestic insurrection to work with, arm, and use to coordinate special forces missions, assassinations, defections and sabotage. That meant during the bombing campaign, Iranian forces weren't tied up trying to quell all that domestic shit, they could focus on launching missiles and drones. Also, the Kurds bamboozled the CIA and Mossad for once; they accepted cash and weapons with the promise to launch their own insurrection on the Iranian border. But they just stayed home lmao. Again, this was huge, because it meant the iranian military didnt have to busy itself with fighting kurds, and could instead focus on launching missiles and drones.

The whole goal was to use the color revolution, the Kurds, and Turkey, to spark a civil war and then use the bombing campaign to decapitate and disarm the regime so the whole country just became an enormous failed state war zone.
That Was The Plan!
So when Iran successfully countered the initial stages, Trump and the jews had no plan B. The bombings alone couldn't destroy the country, we literally ran out of stand off munitions trying. So the only option left was conventional invasion and bombing, but that would mean mass american casualties, and sorry, but we're not dying for israel.
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>>536262515
>be Iran
>literally dindu nuffin
>be america
>proud about freedom of speech
>bomb a school of kids because some of the adults on the other side of the country you attacked did an antisemitic twitter post
>pretend you arent mind controlled buck broken goy slaves on a pyramid scam owned by mossad spies larping as americans
the real americans would have slaughtered all the government pigs by now. british loyalist house
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>>536262653
>So when Iran successfully countered the initial stages
You think they were planning on doing bombings if the riots gained enough momentum?
Maybe they would have succeeded if they hadn't spent 2 years genociding muslim Palestinians in front of the whole world.
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>>536262765
they killed the kids as a sacrifice for Purim.
i think the muslims should play the good guy role until they finally physically take over israel, then they should become ultra brutal.
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>>536262653
So they tried using bog standard jewish tricks on the ancient enemy of judaism for the 6 millionth time. Nice to see them fail so spectacularly.
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>>536262841
Oh 100%. The mostly peaceful protests of moderate rebels was supposed to be the pretext for the bombings and then also serve to help destabilize the country with sabotage, assassinations and disruptions to the Iranian military supply lines. Without those in-country operatives, the Israeli-American coalition was very limited in what it coukd achieve, while the Iranians had a freedom to maneuver they weren't meant to enjoy.

Just look at how muddled the messaging was leading up to the outbreak of hostilities. They were working from only half a script because their peaceful protest operation simply ceased to exist.
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>>536262515
>global financial crisis
Global xus financial crisis Chang, Asia
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>>536263132
Yeah it makes sense. I wonder when they realised they couldn't carry out the bombings.

They ended up bombing them later out of frustration, making them seem all the more incompetent.
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>>536263042
Literally tried doing it on Purim, no less
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>>536263383
They knew they could do a terror bombing campaign, but I think the Pentagon and the CIA knew it would not defeat Iran, especially not without ground ops and a color revolution. But the jews installed Trump specifically for this war, so they insisted on going through with something, consequences be damned.

Look at them now.
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>>536264586
>consequences be damned
well the consequences ended up damning the jews
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>>536262515
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>>536262515
>oil shortage
we'll adjust. In the meantime, we've broken the financial support for a whole bunch of terrorist/ngo networks.
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two bombs were not enough for you japs
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>>536264975
>we've broken the financial support for a whole bunch of terrorist/ngo networks
how?
proof?
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>>536262515
>America makes a deal with Iran:
>>Iran gains immense wealth, power, prestige. They are stronger than before the war and will aid in Israel's destruction with renewed efficiency.
Completely wrong. Israel has nukes and muslims are incompetent. Democrat administrations were willing to do this and it was working.
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>>536264780
Yes, it's been quite funny, actually.
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>>536265191
Real in his mind.
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>>536262515
Get out of Japan, sandnigger
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How can we get the American people to care enough to stop it? No one cares. Prices go up, no one cares still. Not even selfishness makes them care.
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>>536265270
How is it completely wrong?
If America makes a deal with Iran it will be on Iran's terms and Iran will squeeze every cent out of America's coffers. America doesn't have leverage.
>>536265311
Israeli men are growing titties
>>536265314
like all trannies
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>>536265365
this
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>>536262515
It was already like this the moment Iran took the Strait
>Trump declares victory and leaves
Iran retains control of the Strait and can shut it down to pressure or force reparations and concessions from the US, US fails in all strategic objectives (nuclear program, uranium stockpile, regime, Hezbollah, Iran threatening Gulf all unaddressed).
>Trump sends boots on the ground
Will be a very costly forever war in lives and resources with questionable odds of success, would basically be Afghanistan on steroids, Iran is covered in mountains and the IRGC have tunnels everywhere, even if the regime is changed it may collapse as soon as we leave
>Trump just keeps bombing
Is expensive because Iran engages in asymmetric warfare, our missiles are 200x more expensive than their cheap drones, we’ve already spent nearly half of all our ballistic missiles, we cannot secure the Strait without ground troops and the longer Iran shuts it down, the more leverage they have. We also can’t do anything about the nuclear program, enriched uranium, or regime just by bombing them.
>Make a deal
For all of this to actually be worth it, it would have to be better than the Iran deal, otherwise if Trump literally did nothing and kept the Iran deal then we would be better off. Under the Iran deal, Iran
>agreed to surprise IAEA inspections
>gave up their enriched uranium
>capped all future uranium enrichment to 3.67%
>allowed continued US military presence in the region
>Strait was opened, Iran closing it was merely a hypothetical
Now, Iran actually showed it can close the Strait. So any deal in the future would have to be significantly better than this, since this deal was reached with no casualties (on either side) no dead schoolgirls, no military losses of equipment, it didn’t cost billions of dollars and it didn’t threaten the global economy. It took years to get done, and that was without bombing them or killing their leader. Good luck!
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Was 77% monthly inflation part of their plan? Emigrate there, you mook.
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>>536262515
The best option is to power through with the war. Most likely to get anything good out of this for the US if it can.
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>>536265365
>>536265681
im not a "sandnigger".
jews are very triggered by my post, which must mean what I say is completely true.

to all jews reading this, take heed of my advice and despair.
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>>536265791
Can you name one benefit that would be good for the US? 1 thing?
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>>536265791
It's the quickest way to destroy the US, too.
You burn through money the fastest and bodies pile up. International reputation is hurt. Consider all those "friendly" sunni arab countries that need peace in order to diversify their economies. The US is a threat to that, too.

>>536265702
>It was already like this the moment Iran took the Strait
yep. it was already check mate by then.
i would argue it was check mate on Oct 7th.
>For all of this to actually be worth it, it would have to be better than the Iran deal
impossible. Iran holds the cards and they will make America pay dearly.
a deal is the best option for America and Iran knows this, so it will be expensive.
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>>536262515
The Iranian strategy has been a masterclass that will be studied in military textbooks. Counter the air superiority by hiding your strike capacity under a mile of granite, take the shock and awe on the chin and keep hitting back relentlessly, neutralise the enemy airbases near you to push them further and further out so their overwhelming strike capacity is degraded, force them to expend their expensive and limited quantity munitions blowing up obsolete stuff like tomcats as well as a bajillion decoys, conduct propaganda every time you hit a wunderwaffen to ruin the image of invincibility. Great stuff.
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>>536266809
That's right. Also with every conflict they learn more about their enemy and incorporate new tactics very quickly. Very adaptable. Compare their missiles used against in TP1 to the most recent conflict. They are going to force US jets to fly dangerously deep into Iranian territory in order to hit targets, at which point they will be shot down.
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>>536266809
>>536267079

Whatever AA the Iranians had not only survived the bombing campaign that was meant to wipe it out, but it survived so intact that it was probably a large reason for the US agreeing to a ceasefire. A month in and we were running outoff standoff weapon and had withdrawn air assets and carriers due to vulnerability to iranian ballistics and drones, meaning we had to fly from farther away, and fly closer to targets, on flight paths that were well known to the Iranians. And it was at that point that we started taking loses to Iranian AA. Loses that would have become common if we continued with the air campaign.
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>>536265621
We were never asked.



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