>worst case scenario, the war will be over by mid-may.we already won the war
>>536297844He has no way out.If he gives them more than Obama to get them to stop threatening the Strait, he's fucked.If he sends in waves of troops it'll be 3x as bad as Afghanistan and he's fucked.If he just sits our ships there running cover for Israeli bombing, throttling international trade and wrecking the world economy for Bibi, he's fucked.He's in the "Searching for someone else to blame" phase of the war.
>>536298003You lost troon, go suck Obama's dick if you miss him so much
>>536298072No refutation of these facts, I notice.He's pulled off the worst act of foreign policy in the last 200 years. Even his abject capitulation to China this week pales in comparison.
>>536298145>You lost troonNo refutation of this fact, I see.
>>536297844Aluminum prices are about to skyrocket
LOL trump is so fucking stupid. I laff every day at the losers on this forum who have nothing substantially good to say about this guy and their party. He's gonna die at the end of his life as insecure and anxious about his life as he lived it, just convincing himself everything is okay.
>>536298278I don't think you or America can afford much more of this type of "winning".>Elects a real estate shyster with no political experience>He assigns foreign policy to his real-estate shyster son-in-law with no foreign policy experienceI hear our new Director of National Security is....well you know.
TWOMOREWEEKS
>>536298428A real estate shyster?
>>536297844He could withdrawal at any time and it would be over. We're only still there because he wants to pretend he's winning something. The money and the cost are so he can make theatrics.
>>536299000Good guess!
Apparently the answer to government being "swampy" is to replace everyone with Jewish Landlords, pedo-defending lawyers and conspiracy hosts.
>>536299304It works for Putin so why not Trump?
>>536299986Putin ignores the Russian Constitution, owns the courts, has all of his political adversaries "accidented" or imprisoned, and the entire populace propaganda'd to Hell.Trump wishes he had Putin or Xi's wiggle room.
How many times has the war been won so far?
>>536299304if the US pulls out without at least the pre-war status quo the petrodollar is dead and the US economy goes with itgeniuenly the worst fuck up in modern history
>>536300310China has exported more $$$ in green electro-State technology in the last few years than America has exported in oil and processed oil.The "petroState" is already doomed, that's why the Arabs are pivoting to technology and alternate economic strategies for their future.Trump's geopolitical loss to China in the "trade warz" was at least as bad as Hormuz.
>>5363001232026 is still young
>>536300123>ignores the Russian Constitution>owns the courts>has all of his political adversaries "accidented" or imprisoned>the entire populace propaganda'd to Hell.Outside of the political adversaries being the same arm of zog, you guys are halfway there. Id argue an impotent populace is good enough. I mean, at best one political brand of braindead will blame the other brand of braindead, and noone will do anything.
>>536300799Trump is just attempting to make himself immune to prosecution and investigation by the IRS, pocket as much bribe money as possible, fly out of the country and maybe sell the State secrets he'll load onto his new luxury Jumbo.He doesn't have the cunning or courage to become Putin or Xi.Come 2028 we'll all be treated to "TRUMP WOULD HAVE DONE X, IF Y HADN'T STAYED HIS HAND!"
>>536300945No, Trump gets cucked by the courts and the Constitution constantly, maybe 1% of his efforts sorta succeed. Putin runs into Constitutional term limits and just goes into Prime Minister mode and resets his limits.Who was the last political adversary Trump had thrown in prison? It sure wasn't Hilldawg. He's an ineffectual boob of an autocrat.
>>536298072Maggies are npcs
>>536298003>3x as bad as AfghanistanTHATS NOT BAD IN THE LEASTAMERICA TOOK KABUL IN 4 WEEKS AND OCCUPIED THE COUNTRY FOR 20 YEARS WITH BASICALLY NO LOSSESIRAN HAS OILITS A BIG PRIZE FOR AMERICA WELL WORTH THE WAR
>>536301747>IRAN HAS OILYou can't run a highly flammable industry in the heart of a mountainous country full of partisans, for reasons that ought to be obvious. In Afghanistan all we held were some small clusters of civilization, to zero lasting effect, at the cost of 2500 American lives.No, it wasn't Vietnam or Ukraine, but it served no legitimate purpose and provided no lasting benefit.
>>536302016ALL THEY HAD WERE SMALL CLUSTERS OF CIVILIZATION AND THEY WERE TAKENIRAN CLAIMS TO BE A REAL COUNTRYIRAN IS VERY TARGET RICHBASICALLY NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO IRAN YET
>>536302129Yes, we've done nothing except destroy what is probably the 60th most powerful Navy, some decrepit fighters they didn't even bother to try starting up, and in return we've become an international pariah, Trump has looks like a schizophrenic stock manipulator, and we are fucking half the economies on the planet, friendly or otherwise.At a billion a day, + munitions cost + intensified aid pouring into Greatest Ally.We keep walking back our strategic goals there, and we still haven't accomplished a single one.
>>536302619THE ONLY WAY TO DO IRAN IS TO TAKE TEHRANBAGHDAD ALSO FELL IN 4 WEEKS LIKE KABUL
>>536302813...and now Iraq is an Iran sympathetic State, how much money was spent there, how many killed....I seem to remember another man with aspirations and a fondness for ALL CAPS positing on how disastrous, costly and embarrassing those adventures were for the United States.
>>536301747>BASICALLY NO LOSSEStrue, americans aren't human so any of their deaths don't count
>>536302901maybe he is just larping and channeling his inner trump
>>536302902AMERICA IS A COUNTRY OF 340 MILLION PEOPLEIRAN CANT WIN AGAINST AMERICA
>>536302902Not really sure why he's Lindsay Graham-posting at us.
>>536302901IRAN IS THE HEAD OF THE SNAKETHE PROBLEMS IN IRAQ WERE CAUSED BY IRAN
>>536298003We must stay and annihilate Iran because it's what Charlie Kirk would have wanted. His death wish that day was to see Iran wiped out from the world and he has convinced Donald J Trump to do it. WW3 is imminent fellas, I advise all of you to get your affairs in order because this is going to get ugly. If we make it out of this then this will be a long term gain for United States interests,
>>536302962All Iran ever aspired to was a long game of Spy vs Spy with Greatest Ally.Closing the Strait was never something the old leadership even considered, they felt the blowback would be too severe if they tried it.Then tRump lured them all to negotiations and blew them all up, and the inheritors figured that they might as well break the glass on the emergency measure.
>>536303055The problems in Iran were cause by America in the 50's, then America armed the Iraqis with chem weapons to kill a shitload of them, and STILL they basically let bygones be bygones.They stand against Israel, that's our only lasting beef with them.
>>536301747I realize people joke about this board being infested with boomers, but this is getting ridiculous
stupid dead ayatollanigger
>>536303211Trump has almost certainly scored more Aisha's than the old Ayatollah.
>>536303192buddy i dont think anyone here remembers politics pre-2000s. All your points is true, and Iranians remember all of it. I saw Prof Marandi explain how Iran were at the forefront of stabilizing Iraq post collapse, even if they had a a literal war against them. And what did the arabs do, did they thank the iranians?, they turned around and sided with israel against iran instead.Basically this is all historical nuance that the average poltard cant see in lieu of the binary winning/losing
>>536303356At least they haven't posted AI of Trump as all of the Village People at us.
>>536303074IRAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE A TRAPAMERICA NEEDS TO RUN RIGHT OVER THE TRAPTHE PEOPLE OF IRAN WANT TO STOP BEING A SANCTIONED ROGUE STATE FOR THE SHIT TALKING OF THE IRGCIRAN AINT SEEN NOTHING YET
>>536303066>because it's what Charlie Kirk would have wanted.???If anything Kirk would've wanted Israel nuked
>>536297844https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l42a1l3-G_Y
>>536303533Honestly I think a country that's had their democratically elected leader imprisoned forever, and had that same State provide WMDs to a hostile neighbor at war with you, is allowed to shout a bit of Death to "Insert Country" for the catharsis. Because they've actually killed less Americans than our Greatest Ally.
>>536303664POSTING PICTURES OF COMMUNISTS JUST PUTS IRAN RIGHT IN THE COMMIE AXIS WHERE THEY BELONGTHE NATURAL ENEMY OF AMERICA