>Hezzbolla is fucking israel with it>Ukraine is fucking Russia with it>Iran is Fucking America with it>Taiwan is arming them all in speedrun for precaution>It's cheap as fuck>works for everyone plus you got camvids for demoralization>Ok so what nowHow you counter this? it's fucking all sides.
>>536298529>works for everyone plus you got camvids for demoralizationthis is the main, sole and only talking point that matters^*THAT* is the reason kikes have gone apoplectic, talking about indiscriminate murder/retaliation against civilians per FPV drone kill that gets out.the images of it, and the reality of drone warfare is mind shattering (obviously) for the little kike soldiers and it might make them full on 'refuse' to fight, which is israels hyperdimensional nightmarecan only imagine the seethe that the first draft-conscripted haredi getting splattered will cause. lmao probably nation wide rioting if I had to guess.the moment one of them gets drafted by satanyahu and gets liquidated, it will cave in israeli society..which is why they will avoid the haredi thing at all costs
>>536298529>How you counter this? it's fucking all sides.simple, you stop ethnic cleansing your neighbors, accept you cant change borders by force unless youre willing to meat grind wave after wave of your people in morale shattering forlorn drone charges.ORyou just go the fuck back home and execute gvir and smotrich for bringing it all to this point
>>536298913I thought only Americans fought and died for Israel? Why are Israeli troops fighting?
>>536298529As if Ukraine isn't getting fucked with it. There is your answer.
>>536299092Kikes are fighting in lebanon, burgers are fighting in iran
>>536299092I am going to be hoenst with you i don't know if you are being ironic or not, but yeah indeed the IDF have been fighting both hamas and hezzbolla with (Admited, could be more) casualities, at leas 2000 death and 50 suicides since.This only the numbers israel themselves admidt, like i say it could be more.
big nets
>>536299151nigga i say "it's fucking all sides" you didn't awsner me you repeat me.
>>536299061>simple, you stop ethnic cleansing your neighborsukraine is ethnic cleansing itself via kidnap conscription
>>536298529eventually someone's going to develop targeted EMPs, only realistic solution
>>536298529>How you counter this?jamming works against them but that's being countered by fiber optic controlled drones. but those have more limited ranges and are more at risk of tangling up on terrain. no idea how you really stop them though at a cost effective rate, a drone that's a couple hundred / thousand dollars can inflict damage in the millions or tens of millions, even hundreds of millions in some cases.
>>536298529Battle Bots
>>536298913this is a good post
>>536299401Ukraine is fucking holocausting the russian race. The whole world has been watching it for over 4 years. And all of your cope attempts won't change that. Russia should have literally taken Kiev in 3 days, and the only reason they still haven't (and won't ever) is because of the great force asymmetry equalizer, the FPV/dropper drone. And now, just like what has happened to the invader/occupier muscovites, the invader occupier israelis are running into a serious problem, because of the glorious drones.Hang your head in shame, russia shilling loser.
>>536299533Precisely! This anon gets it.Its warfare via financial attrition - complete asymmetric challenge when you need to spend $Ms countering offensive fires that cost $KsNeed to think back to fundamentals here: need to price/detect the threat, then classify, than perform some form of action.Some new munitions - like super shotgun shells, are being developed. The actual munition (round) is cheap ($5??) and can take down a good sized drone at hundreds of yards. But that to my knowledge is not effective against all threat classes, and hasn’t been integrated into an automated detect / classsify / fires system.
>>536300009>russia shillingwho cares about poccnr, nothing you said refuted my post
>>536300025I imagine widespread asymmetric tactics being integrated into warfare with drones will prolong wars into 10-15 year periods with small breaks I've thought this since about 2023
>>536300009How many Russians did Ukraine kill about? 6 million? Or was it 20 billion? The delusions you retards spout
>>536300025ITS A NEW CLASS LIKE AIR CAVJUST PUT OUT YOUR OWN FPV TEAMS TO HUNT THE OTHER DRONE OPERATORSTHE FRONT IS DRONE ON DRONE OPERATING DRONES GETS TO BE HIGH RISKTHEN COME THE AUTONOMOUS AI DRONES AKA SKYNET
So what is stopping me from getting one and bringing someone a present late at night?Just call me Santa Claus
>>536300025nobody has figured out effective shotgun/laser anti drone systems yet but god they need to asap
>>536298529If you think drones are crazy now just wait until Japan and Germany start making them. No serious military power have made them their main focus yet.
>>536300299Well if you want a real answer: yes indeed you can kill someone but if not at war track from *where* it come from after explosion isn't really hard so the police and so could get your ass easy, but for war that dosen't matter so it works.
Global conflict is just professional wrestling for people with higher tax brackets. Nobody is 'fucking' anyone, we're all just watching the same script get recycled for fifty years
>>536300466old newsjeets in bongland and leafland been droning napalm for decades
>>536298529Drones are fuckin bullshit and gay
>>536300009What the fuck? Did they invent C5 to make drones more potent?
>>536300296>>536300009>>536300025It’s an inversion of the cost-exchange ratio. When you’re forced to fire a $2M interceptor to stop a $500 drone, you’ve already lost the war. >>>you're just waiting for the inventory to hit zero. We’re moving from an era of 'smart' munitions to an era of 'cheap' saturation, and no amount of 'precision targeting' fixes that math.
>>536300779they are A LOT more potent now, thanks to ukaine war that allow them to experiment more and developt it agaisnt real mobile targets in action.
>>536300466>muh nippon hypertechnologyhow about you stick to opinions on anime you embarassing dipshit
>>536299533The fiber does NOT get tangled ever. The reel with thousands of feet is mounted on the drone and releases continuosly. It could zig-zag through a forest with no problem. It can run out of fiber on the spool but it will NEVER tangle.
>>536300874Where can I go to find out more about this?
>>536298529You build better, longer range, more accurate drones.Superior technology and economy still wins.Also drones are still useless against fighter jets. Yes, you can cause some damage, but if you lose air superiority you'll still get bombed to oblivion.
>>536300009
>>536300874There is going to be a lot of ruined land once these cables break down Into the soil
>>536300869they reverse engineered fighter planes in a few months prior to ww2 and every jap kid grew up with a toy robotthe only thing holding them back is the american gremlin on their backsthey were the leaders of innovation in many eras and held off america despite being a buttfuck nation with no resources in most of the american campaign in ww2they're literally not allowed to develop military tech but do you think if you said they can make dark souls and berserk but it kills you they wouldn't make the best of it?
>>536299092Art of the DealNow Israelis are dying while Americans are staying in the background
>>536301011the real concern is the eventual spiders
>>536300299It's against the law.
>>536298529>How you counter this?I got some ideas but I'm not saying shit
>>536301433Fucking hell someone is going to make a lot of money getting hired to take care of this or they will cut their losses and let the slavs DNA get even worse
>>536301727No the idea is they hire jeets to do it and mass import jeet "specialists" because the locals are "too lazy"
Gee, looks like there's no more profit in war.
>>536298529>By the time you hear it it's too late.Bombs and rockets and mortars don't whistle in real life like they do in movies. You don't hear them until they explode near you.
>>536298529>How you counter this?net gun, obviously
>>536298529The israelis have been assassinating people with american made (and funded) drones that are equipped with small pistols. https://www.sigsauer.com/media/sigsauer/resources/ADV_WPNS_brochure_REV001_copy.pdf
>>536299092They're not. They conquered an empty 13th century castle and bombed a bunch of civilians.
>>536301727>slavic dnanot going to be much if any of that left in ukraine anyway
>>536301861If russia takes over those drunk whores put out enough kids a year to pump the numbers back up if they really try
>>536300275enough so that the russia is giving up transnistria now. The Russian government has formally drafted the paperwork. Report to your sergeant for dedovschina.
>>536298529>How you counter this? it's fucking all sides.you can'tthis is a good thingit means tyranny is not financially sustainable. A few people with a few drones can always fuck up the goals of the powerful. Theoretically so could 'terrorists' for any reason or no reason at all. But historically most 'terrorism' is by state actors false flagging. viva la drone.
>>536300299literally nothing
>>536300009>Ukraine executing POWs and deserters with drones is 'holocausting' the Russian race. correct but only because people from The Ukraine are actually Russians. Ukrains has been losing the drone war for a long time. Kiev is has been repeatedly hit in massive strikes that there is literally no counter for. There are no Ukrainian troops left, there are even fewer left to conscript by lowering age caps, etc. It's over. All that's left is a propaganda budget to pay for your stupid cope. vid relKiev after last night's attack.
it's unbeatable invest heavily into it
>>536298529Wont work for Taiwan. The fuck are drones going to do when you rely on 90% energy and food imports.Also you're not going to produce more drones that CHINA.Also grouping up FPV's and all kinds of >Drones under a single name is fucking stupid and I am tired of arguing over this. Fuck this site.It works with Israel because Israel always had trouble with the micro terrain in Southern Lebanon.Works in Ukraine because you can see massive tank formation miles away now due to the prollificaiton of ISR drones (more important than FPV's).Works with Iran because well the US is depednign on bases and well the bases are only a 10 min away from the GULF bases for the most part. A skip of the pond if you will. Along with the geopgraphic advantage and that fact that the US was never big on Air Defense because as they say, a good offensse is a good defense. Not letting the enemy attack you and forcing them to be on the defense. But becasue of the GEOGPRAHIC placement of Iran, the US has to camp outside the persian gulf because going inside is practically a death sentence for any ship. And there's like +1000km of shoreline on the Iran side and a LOT of places to hide along with the mountains they have. Giga fucked. There's a reason why a ground war with the US and Iran cant happen, becasue the US wont even be able to mass any amount of force before being destoryed by SRBM's, let alone artilary, drones, FPV's, ATGM's etc. The Army has not been used in a long time for Iran besides advisors in Iraq or Hezbolah. They are just jacking off in their bunkers right now if they are even inside of them. Because the US cant even afford to waste ammo on blowing up their tanks. Becasue why would we? We cant even blow up their missile cities.So the counter is.... well you're not going to really like it but its more drones and low altitude air defense basically everything under 2000ft.
>>536298529>by the time you hear it, its over>cheap. precise. deadlysame logic applies to bullets mate.
>>536301933how many females do they even have left for breeding? thought most of them fled
>>536298913This basically is the ww2 naval warfare tactic change on land.Tanks are the old battleships and a squad of drone operators are aircraft carriers.
>>536302128the real reason it won't work is because China isn't ever planning on seizing Taiwan but slowly integrating it via the democratic process. Taiwan will eventually just agree to be part of china and there will never be a battle. People in the west are so used to military operations they don't even pause to think how China actually accomplishes its geopolitical goals. Also we don't care about Taiwan the only thing we care about is the chip manufacturing and I don't particularly care for that since the NSA makes them install backdoors so the kikes can turn our PCs into microwave weaponsI hope the chinks monopolize chips and wish I could buy chink CPUs now.
>>536302128I work on this shit for a living and this is an excellent post
>>536302138Even lowballing it they still have over 130 million people
>>536298529It'd be countered by nets, sonic cannons, and mass troops.All of which have issues, but that's the best I got.
>>536299401>ukraine is ethnic cleansing itself>>536300009>Ukraine is fucking holocausting the russian raceThese are the same comment.
>>536302251you may want to look at this >>536301861 againat their peak they had just over 50 million
>>536302342That's ukriane population not Russia if Russia wins they can bring they population back up from their current number it's pretty high still
>>536301433>the real concern is the eventual spidersthe real concern is that every one of those strands lead back to the drone pilot
>>536300025shotgun and hundereds of yards...... you do realize thats not a thing
>>536300921They have Instagram videos about these. Modern warfare is over.
>>536302421ah, true>>536302443have youy ever tried to sort a box of cables that were all twisted togetherit can take hours to separate and make any sense of individual ones, and those cables are hundreds of times thicker than these fiber optic lines
>>536298529Right now it's useless, it's just the 2026 version of guerilla warfare and nothing more, it doesn't make you win battles, it doesn't make you gain ground, it doesn't make you hold ground, it achieves nothing strategically except being a little bit annoying.
>>536302443Go follow a razor thin fiberoptic line behind enemy lines and see where that gets you>Well ill just try to trace the line with a droneThe transparent line thats almost impossible to see until youre ontop of it? Good good
>>536298529Why dont troops carry those cheap plastic fishing nets? The ones they throw in the water that are 100ft long or so and fit in your pocket. Set up perimeters with those or something, plus they are translucent plastic so the drone operators wouldnt be able to see them.
>>536302604They use these to protect roads, but eventually someone comes along and burns it out or slips through a crack. Then they sit along the road and blow the fuck out of you.
>>536302599>t. hasn't seen enough of the videosthose are perhaps the most effective propaganda to make people nope the fuck out of recruitment
nobody rushes out to sign up after seeing a guy get droned in the literal ass, blowing his legs off and his lower body apart, and taking a half hour to die
>>536301800Fucking hell
>>536302553>>536302601You don't follow an individual strandViewed from above, all of the fibers form an arrowhead pointing at the drone base
>>536302890That would be true if the drones took a straight to the same place over and over again approach.>Juzt zoom out moreYou cant see them, they have a very small thermal signature, are radio transparent, etc
>>536302890mate there are thousands of them at any given time flying around, many places there are practically covered in this blanket of overlapping and crisscrossing ones, and the operators use temporary field bases and constantly move, since they're enormous targets
>>536298529It's the Luddites of military warfare.I'm old enough to remember when an English bishop submitted an official complaint to the pope about the inhumanity of French crossbows - where a lucky Arbolist's bolt could pierce straight through the armor and kill a knight who trained his entire life in warfare.Decades of training vs. 1 lucky shot from a went with a crossbow who merely had to pull the lever...
lol eventually the fiber optics are going to start impacting their ability to even use the drones
>>536298529literally not one of these things is true
>>536303024Nah the props cut them easily. Its one of the reasons they fly so carefully with them. Dont want to kick your own line in the ass.
>>536303014>I'm old enough to remember when an English bishop submitted an official complaint to the pope about the inhumanity of French crossbows>I'm old enough to remember whennigger that was in the 1100s
>>536303069>the props cut them easily.didn't know that
>>536302833>taking a half hour to dieThat's the worst part. If I have to die I'd really prefer not to go out in such a prolonged, horrific way. Especially not with every minute of my suffering being uploaded to facebook an hour later
>>536303102Kek what a dumbass
>>536303127The props on a FPV are fairly rigid and spin wicked fast. They will cut your flesh down to the bone. Dont google FPV prop injuries.To entrap/entangle FPVs effectively you need kevlar or stopping enough props at once that it crashes. Fishing nets like the other guy mentioned either cause the drone to self det because the trigger wires on the front get pushed by them or cause the drone to catch and flip more than the actual plastic stops the drone.
>>536298529>How you counter this?Electromagnetic warfare. We've known it was the future for a while, but there was never any push towards it because it's absurdly expensive. But that is the only practical way forward. Every unit will require specialized vehicles able to project a large scale EMP wave that will eventually be forced to evolve into a dome. All important equipment will have to be heavily reinforced against EMP attacks so you don't fry your own systems when you enforce a mobile electronic blackout. Wars will become even more one sided as a result, with only those capable of footing such an expensive suite being the ones capable of using anything but dumbfire munitions fired from minimal tech equipment. Such a development would also spell the end of peace.Want to know the best and easiest way to project a complete electronic blackout over an enemy nation?Detonating high yield nuclear weapons in VLEO
>>536303102>hes not immortalkek
>>536303102We must gain more knowledge from this elder
>>536303371>Dude like a directional EMP GunStop playing so much vidya.You cant effectively generate enough power to put out a sufficiently strong field without using explosives. Those explosives make it really hard to make it directional. The power put out by the pulse also makes it even harder to make it directional since you will be cooking antenna arrays.Even if you solved all this, the shielding required in the vehicle would make it immovable.>Dude nukes in VLEO!Not going to do nearly as much as youd hope to small circuits in drones. Let alone the weapons on the ground.
Personally, I love the fact that countries such as Israel / USA (and basically any other country) can't just invade anyone they want without suffering in the worst way possible.. what Iran did with drones and what Hezbolla is doing now is just incredible.. everyone should learn to live in peace or else become FPV spectacle minced meat
>>536303988also Russia.. I'm no NAFO homo but Russia invading does deserve to be countered.. I just wish Zelenski wasn't a kike and wasn't out to get rid of all Ukranians via this nonsense war they provoked
>>536298529I can't wait until somebody finally solves this and ukranny seethes in the UN trying to ban the solution.
>>536298529i'd like to see a drone intercept a nuclear bomb bitches#nukeeveryonenow
>>536298913Naftali bennet said he would draft haredi
>>536298529clone wars niggers.
>>536301803Mortars and artillery whistle going through the air. Not as loud as the movies but artillery will make an audible slow helicopter noise when it goes over. Mortars have stabilizer fins that tend to whistle in the air.>former 11C
>>536304223Youre going back to india pajeet
>>536304325>stabilizer fins that tend to whistle in the air.Only older bent edge finsThe whistle you hear on modern ones are the turbines for the multipurpose fuzes
>overloads you're controller
>>536303014WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU AND WHAT YEAR ARE YOU FROM?!
>>536298529>cheap, precise, deadlyJews are so price concious, even when they're being killed.
>>536300299Nothing if you keep it on the down low but they are tracking down 3d printed guns, I’m sure they could track down drones with special delivery presents
>>536298529Halt, kike occupier.
>>536303653Do you think I was exaggerating when I said it would evolve into a dome and wars would become disgustingly expensive or why I then mentioned the easiest alternative that would also have the greatest effect?You are greatly underestimating the effects of high yield nuclear weapons in vleo. The goal isn't to fry the drone, it's to fry the entire power infrastructure in the region, including computers and communication networks. The drone becomes irrelevant, it is a large scale nation destroying attack.
>>536304432Wtf are you talking about? It's fuse is set on rotations in the air unless you set fuse to impact. It still has to rotate so many times before it will det above ground or underground. There is no turbine, thats what cheese charges are for.
>>536299533We already have dealt with this. It's the sea mine warfare problem all over. Incredibly costly to deal with and stops navies in their tracks. It's why the second headline of all this has been Iran mining the strait. Oh... And by dealt I mean we haven't at all dealt with it. Literally the primary mine warfare tactic of recommendation is to go around it at all costs because countermeasures are so expensive. Land war is going to have to learn the same fucking thing... Avoid conflict at all costs. Maybe things will focus on harsh first strikes (I believe that was the intent with this but it still failed).
>>536298529lol huehugue=uheuuheuhueuheuh
>>536304544kek always have been
>>536298529Tunnel.
>>536299533>no idea how you really stop them though at a cost effective rateLaser canons are the only way unfortunately
>>536298529Automated shotgun and laser turret systems. These things can’t be dealt with on mass unless you can make a defense cheaper than the drones. Light, lead, and gunpowder are cheap enough to produce an effective wall defense against them and can deal with the swarm tactic by replacing the air with lead faster than they move. The laser is for more precise lone drone attacks.
>>536299696>this is a good post>>536304252>Naftali bennet said he would draft haredibased! he would basically guarantee the complete breakdown of israeli civilization as it is currently knownall it will take is one haredi drafted against his will to get cut in half by an FPV drone, while the voyeur drone films him crawling around like a ukroid gore video and the absolute cultural collapse of israel will be nearly instanti suspect thats the gamble now anywaygo full on "masada....ITS OVER" and let the chips fall where they may on the 'other side'the satanyahu "super sparta" chapter is officially over thanks to FPV drones and their gross demoralization capabilities
>>536304681>There is no turbine in a M734 Why dont you go ahead and hold an 81mm tube over your head for a couple hours.>>536304678>Dude powerinfrastructureirrelevant to tactical employment of drones.
>>536299401That's what happens when you elect a jew.
>>536298529is it feasible for cartel to send low flying delivery drones across border? They carry more than human muleshttps://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005010487040706.html(fuck you develop reusable interceptor drones)
>>536300466Mah mayne!
>>536298913Im suprosed we havent seen more out of Ukraine trying to resist the draft. Im this war, youre dead the moment you get drafted
>>536299061russophobic antisemitic comment
>>536303014teach me the ways of antiquity, elder-senpai
>>536303014>I'm old enough to remember when an English bishop submitted an official complaint to the pope about the inhumanity of French crossbowsBased oldfag schooling these newfags.
>>536305195
>invents a solution>patents it.>detained>industry plants positioned with your invention.>becomes a targeted individual....don't listen to these desperate ***** if you invent a solution for this the government will persecute you for it. The patent office and military government are hand in hand.
>click on drone thread>ziggers seething about the 'kraineevery time
>how do you stop drone warfare?EMPs?>how do you actually stop warfare?Stop killing each other and let the third world rot in there shitholes while we build walls the size of the burj dubai
>>536304967My fear is that thr haredi will just be escaping to Lakewood NJ where theyve established a hive
>>536298529quantum computing. long range self-detonation of the enemys stockpile, before they can even launch it.
>>536299401Damn, and Russia still can't win?
>>536298529Russia produces as much FPV drones as ukronato if not more and the long range fixed wing drone production in Russia is much greater.The fiber optic FPV drone that Hezbollah uses was pioneered and mass used by Russia so guess who gave them that tech.So what is actually happening - pedoNATOniggers are losing the drone warfrare hard and will continue losing.
>>536298529it's a brand new era
>>536298913govts will start banning it like chemical warfare and their rivals will start assassinating their drone experts and "veterans" so that they cant secretly train it
>>536299401Really? I didn't know Slavs were even in control of their own country. Huh.
>>536298529>haha drones in our forced brother war in ukraine are so good at killing the goyim and making demoralisation guncam porn for us>HELP NO YOU CAN'T USE THEM AGAINST US UNITED NATIONS DO SOMETHING HELP OY VEY STOP SHOAHING MEfucking hook noses
>>536298529I think they wouldnt give a shit cs it's cheap and the weapon companies cannot make it expensive so they are upset. War has always been a racket now with cheap weapons it levels the battle field. The drone are not killing the ruling class and the bankers atleast its hitting these fuckers where it hurts there wallets.
>>536298913>>536298529I dont get why the jews re upset they been using drone in gaza and west bank why get upset
>>536308040Sometimes I wish you sent a squad of Russian drone operators to help Lebanon
>>536302599>it doesn't make you win battles, it doesn't make you gain ground, it doesn't make you hold ground, it achieves nothing strategicallyNigger, shitsrael can't advance 10 km past its border and it's been more than 3 months since their full scale invasion. This is unprecedented
>>536299092>>536298529>>536298913Theres speak of rolling idf and America military into one group in Congress right now. It's a scary thought it would mean us military is controlled by isreali and jews. If this happens Israel can declare war and control the us military as they wish. It's a scary thought. Imagine china doing the same. Us military and chinese military being the same that china has control over the us military they could dawn America men to die for chinese interests it would be insane and no ones trying to stop it
>>536299533Warfare is horrible and total waste but am happy this cheap toy I being used as a weapon its completely destroyed the war economy. USA makes billion on a million dollar item that's being beat by something off temu.
shitbrown retard muzzrats think they are really clever for playing with these toys, but they will be singing a different tune when kikes pump out 500x as many loitering manhacks that instantly turn anyone who sets foot outside into meat pasteyou think its leveling the battlefield but it isn't, the side with actual industrial capacity can and will eventually begin deploying battle drones at massive scale, and it will be a nightmare beyond any human occupation ever could be
Israelis are butchering Lebanese peasants to steal their clay for Greater Israel. The amerigoy are being ordered to invade the fully modernized & highly trained Iranian state basically yids expected their landgrabs to be as easy as shooting Palestinians is, but the Lebanese are getting shipments of drones from China. Bibi got out-played by Xi, jews all forget China has a thousands-year history of deeply ambitious schemers plotting how they'll seize control.
>>536308552>bricsnigger cannot readmany such cases, its why they get sent to the front to be turned into a mobik cube
>>536308633Israel can't do shit. They have fuck-all manufacturing and have been relying on america to be their military arm for decades, but america's mil-indus-complex is both corrupt and bloated in terms of spending while simultaneously spun down with pitiful throughput. They CANNOT spin up a large scale new weapon without decades fighting the corruption and rebuilding their industrial capabilities.
>>536302128>won't work against China>works against USwotif ships need to stay so far away - how exactly are the Chinese going to deny Taiwan their energy and food imports that come via phillipino territorial waters?>>536302211>we don't care about taiwanplease. Taiwan is the only thing preventing China from accessing the high seas unsurveilled. Taiwan is more strateigically important to US hegemony than gulf oil
>>536299061This. The days were more powerful countries can steamroll smaller countries with minimal casualties is over.
>>536305342you can just say based
>>536308822No I said there wouldn't be a battle because Taiwan will peacefully unify with China. >muh chinese navyChinks aren't militarily aggressive. who gives a shit if they can boat aroundalso we don't surveil from Islands nigger. We surveil from 'le space'
>>536298529Why do governments seem so shocked by drones? We've had drones since Tesla invented radio control.
>>536309118Yeah good luck surveiling submarines from 'le space'. which is pretty much the only fucking seaborthen threat that the US actually worries/cares about.And ok while you don't NEED them, they make life a hell of a lot easier.
>>536309196>Why do governments seem so shocked by drones?Because it decentralizes states' the only method of control - monopoly on violence.
>>536298529>be israel>gets fucked by drones despite having years to prepare because we knew as far back as 2022 how dangerous they are>goes to UN to cry about itlmaoAt least Russians and Ukrainians take it up the ass from each other in proud quiet slavic traditions. Kikes immediately went to complain to the manager.Absolute fucking pottery.
>>536309196>Why do governments seem so shocked by dronesthey are cheap and effective and accessible, that isn't sportsmanlike behaviour. the modern version of brits crying about american revolutionaries not doing parade formations in the open
>>536300466>Japan and Germany>serious military powerThanks for the laugh, leaf-homo.>>536302443It does not. They just wind back a long enough piece of the cable after detonating the drone using a drill or similar.>>536301433The real concern is the environmental damage this is causing. Just look at all that microplastic!
>>536309250>no you don't get it you can see submarines from Islands
>>536309325that was so fucking funny. Kikes living up to every stereotype.
>>536309311Would be nice when normal guys kill mafia boss es with drones. Imagine some mafia guy comes to your business he threats your family he kills your dog rapes your daughter and wife makes you watch. Rapes and castrated your son rapes you in the ass. Takes your wife and daugther and your castrated son and uses them as sex slave and sells them. You build a drone and go after them killing every last one of there family members by flying the drone in there dicks and assholes. Imagine that>>536304967
>>536298529You counter it with more drones.Raytheon has already released a drone model based on shahed designs that is half the cost and over 100000 have already been commissioned. Modern warfare is transitioning to a new low cost paradigm.The future will be drone operators and production facilities working in deep underground facilities while autonomous and semi autonomous systems rule the air land and sea
>>536298529Oh no.. not cheap!? How will isreal charge 6x the price! Weapons have to be millions!!!
>>536304967Holy shit, Haredi based as fuck!I took want to live a spiritual life of eating delicious food and drinking nice wine. I do not want to end up in a trench or in an FPV gore compilation like Ukrainians/Russians. Fuck that.>all it will take is one haredi......going Full Metal Jacket by opening fire with his issued rifle to kill as many fellow soldiers as he can.Also lol @ these Super Jews leeching from their host nation of Judea. Again, I am in awe of their jew-jitsu.
>>536309421they did ww2 with no resources and did it entirely on vibesyou're a fucking idiot japan especially *will* develop the most killer drones you've ever seen
>>536304967Not sure why hassbullah the splinter muslims factions dont all just go to israel build drones and attack Israel it self. Rather the blowing themselves up why not use drones. Must of them should be able to do it with 3d printed and such? If I was one of those Gazans whose family got wiped out I would be I israel building drones hell I would make visas on YouTube on how to build drones using homemade stuff or stuff you can buy or how to make cheap drones make them e able to travel far and put home made explosives on them
>>536302165I have had this exact thought before.It actually gave me a thought for a modified tank platform that instead of carrying a main gun contains sophisticated communication and jamming equipment along with automated drone launching and storage system.You would crew the vehicle with a driver, a mechanic, and 2-3 drone operators
>>536309622>muh World War JewAnd now they have an even more fucked economy and absolutely ZERO (0) Banzai spirit.The only thing Japan will contribute in any future military conflict is targets to soak up Chinese missiles.>>536309565>(((Raytheon))) shaheds>half the costlmaothings that miggers actually believe
>>5363096251. The Palestinians are all to tightly controlled due to things like Palantir, Oct 7th was orchestrated from within, they railroaded Hamas into the attack. 2. Other arabs and muslims from other countries don't want to give up their cozy status quo for war despite what you might believe about them, just like how the goyim in western nations also won't do shit.
>>536298529If there is a problem, there is a solution.
>>536309719You cant actually believe that there is some manufacturing capability that fucking iran possesses that we don't. Surely your brain isnt that rotted by chinese propaganda.Thirdie cope is fucking unreal.
>>536309625The real question is why all the muzzies and jeets imported by bong ruling class don't start using drones to ACK bongcels? Much more efficient than trucks or ceremonial knives.>>536309694>modified tank platformBecause that makes it a great target for drones, retard!Fucking Americans and their MIC thinking lmao>let's make a big and loud armored vehicle in an age of warfare where Russian tanks and even our gayass Abraaaps are getting sniped with Temu drones on the regGood thinking, faggot
>>536309775Weird you get to see your loved ones final moments
>>536309565Problem is that fucks the US completely because US global power projection relies on conventional air and naval power. Can’t just switch it all to drones and maintain the same kind of full spectrum dominance
>>536309798There was theres a video of some terrorists flying drones onto planes few years back. Some terrorist even was arrested with a stinger missiles
>>536309821> implying jews can't love, anona vampire bites off their mirror neurons shortly after they're born
>>536309792Iran has two advantages over American MIC:-lower wages-no profit motiveThey don't have to make expensive weapons to milk billions from Pentafags. Their weapons factories are owned by the state and not Jew York shareholders, goy.>Thirdie cope is fucking unreal.Typical migger doesn't know what 3rd World actually means lmao>>536309878Based.Total Bong Death.
>>536309898>Typical migger doesn't know what 3rd World actually means lmaoI know retards just throw it around not even knowing what it means. Go read a book
>>536298529>How you counter this?Signal jammers.
>>536309424... see, surrounding islands is this thing called "territorial waters" where underwater listening devices are quite important.and when they're within territorial waters they are a lot less likely to be fucked with by your enemy, unlike in international watrers.But you knew that. i'm sure.
>>536309755Do the arab countries know they are all fucked sooner or later? All arab countries are slowly being destroyed. Lybia gone so has syria Lebanon is happening right now. Jordan egypt Turkey Greece is next. They will eventually go. Professor jang was saying how the saudi royal family are crypto jews something about them being Frankophiles or some otherj ewish groups
>>536310139>you need Taiwan so you can put microphones underwaterlol
>>536310152Their leaders are backed by the jewish cartel and funded by American taxpayer money to keep an iron grip, any sort of brewing rebellion would get easily squashed, all the kings and leaders are in on it, and yes the Saudi royal family are more than likely crypto jews.The upper echelons of their society are all in on it, just like in Western Countries, just like Latin America.
>>536310200... you appear to have reading comprehension dificulties. dyslexia perhaps?>international watres>territorial waterstry to understand the difference in how maritime operations work.
>>536310094How well is that working out for Russia and Ukraine again?Oh right, I forgot that America has super-space tech from Area 51 that'll totally open up the HormuACKKKK
>>536310152>>536310251Sorry for the shitty pic
>>536310266>we need to control Taiwan so we can drop microphones in the ocreanyeah I don't know rabbi.
>>536298529>How you counter this?Don't invade other countries and try to take their shit?
>>536298529>OH MY YAWEH ITS NOT FREAKING FAIR THAT THEY FIGHT BACK! DO SOMETHING, GOY!!!It's crazy how they unironically think like this.
>>536298529The technology to efficiently counter drones does exist, but it requires mass production and more vehicles in combat. In the meantime pack a shotgun I guess.
>>536299161They are probably trying to use this to kvetch to the U.S. to also fight Lebanon for them.
>>536298529>ok so whats nowThe data centers finishing and AI taking control of them.
>>536308901>This. The days were more powerful countries can steamroll smaller countries with minimal casualties is over.This is so naive.Like looking at the Boer war and thinking the precision rifle has ended the days when more powerful countries can steamroll smaller countries with minimal casualties, because a handful of skilled rifleman can strike at old fashion infantry columns with impunity.The big countries are playing using an obsolescent meta. They haven't pivoted to the new meta yet.All the people getting giddy over the prospect of an end to war, aren't asking themselves what happens when the big countries devote their industrial capacity and research budgets to drone warfare. Imagine solar powered counter insurgency surveillance drones that nest up on roof tops and in trees, programmed to explode when tampered with. Dozens of them, maybe even hundreds deployed across a city, networked with aerial surveillance drones, ready to lift off at a moment's notice and strike insurgents caught out in the open whenever they try to move equipment, or launch a drone of their own.Imagine unjammable FPV kamikaze drone swarms deployed by cruise missile, controlled from a thousand miles away by MASER beam signals bounced off of high altitude long endurance loitering drones.Imagine these kamikaze drones purchased in the bulk only accessible to a state with a central bank, deployed as if they were smart nerve gas, and airdropped directly onto enemy command centers and bases by the hundred if not by the thousand the way they would shell enemy lines during WW1.This is not a people's weapon, despise what you have been led to believe.
>>536310724You need drones worth like 1/10000 of that system to saturate and damage it.
>>536298529I'm fucking your mom with it