Good thing we as communists dont believe "everyone's equal". We're just trying to convince people organize upon class lines and, you know, cooperate even in the most bare minimum of ways with people of other races, genders or sexualities. None of what you portray us as. We're genuinely just trying to convince people to cooperate in like the most bare, bare minimum of ways. And everything else is your strawmen, which you promote everyone in the media and big tech apparatuses you own.

>>536311489
>communist that doesn't believe in equality
wut

Like this...like "hey man, don't vote against implementing your own right to universal healthcare, just because you believe denying people healthcare will hurt niggers more than it hurts whites. Because no matter our race we all stand to benefit from this policy".

That.

That's an example of the type of bare, bare minimum of cooperation, based on class, which we're trying to generate in people. As communists.

>>536311489
Take a peek at the vids of people saying I don't go around people anymore, then look at the comments. People cannot stand other people at all, including their own kids. You aren't getting a warm collective out of that. The experiment is over.

>>536311561
I said we don't believe "everyone's equal". Now you're trying to misrepresent it with a different wording, which seemingly has different connotations.

Yeah. We don't believe in the things you say and pretend we believe in, and your promotion of this idea that we want this cartoonish idea of "blind equality for everyone" is outright false. I told you what our politics and views are >>536311581, >>536311489. And anything else you try to pin on us is mostly just your right wing propaganda bullshit.

>>536311658
Well thats your capitalist, western, right wing society which has made people hate 1 another. In large part, because it makes them easier to control. All of the loneliness of the west. All of the postermodernist isolation. All of that is bred into people by you and your right wing frens. Which you then turn around and use your total stranglehold on our information apparatus to blame "the jews", or "the leftists" or whoever else you are opposed to. But its always all just your crime.

>>536311581
why do you have a right to free healthcare? why is a foreigner who has contributed nothing entitled to the fruits of White people's labor?

>>536311661
You have said twice that people are not equal- so why should the strong races have to support the weak races?

>>536311748
LMFAO. I love how immediately when your OP strawman fails, and then your next comment's strawman fails, you just immediately run to a new 3rd strawman of "giving healthcare to foreigners on the backs of white people's labor". I mean, and its all only purely totally fictional.

It's all you people do, man. Is just strawman us. Endlessly. Relentlessly. Powerfully. And with all of the information dissemination infrastructure behind you, owned by capitalists.

>>536311809
No. I didn't say any of the things you say I said. Your entire purpose in your OP is to strawman leftists. And then in every response I write to you, you just immediately try to strawman every word I write. Every single time. Its all you people ever do. Your beloved strawmen are relentless because they're the only weapon you have to protect your precious wealth from us. I wrote what I wrote. None of what youve mischaracterized it as.

>>536311835
you're not answering my question. You
have accepted that the races aren't equal- so why should the superior races be forced to subsidize the existence of the inferior?

>>536311883
Once more >>536311873. There's really nothing else to say to you than that. Its pretty clear the only thing you're going to do throughout this entire thread, if I speak to you, is just perpetually and relentlessly try to strawman / misrepresent literally every word I write to you. Out of nowhere. Based on nothing. Its the usual grift from fascists. Unfortunately.

>>536311873
You're still not addressing my original statement- why should we treat people as equal when they're clearly not?

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Lincoln never believed in equality, he was just against slavery.

>>536311941
I have nothing else to say to you than I did above >>536311940, until you stop deliberately misrepresenting every last one of my posts, or statements.

>Once more >>536311873. There's really nothing else to say to you than that. Its pretty clear the only thing you're going to do throughout this entire thread, if I speak to you, is just perpetually and relentlessly try to strawman / misrepresent literally every word I write to you. Out of nowhere. Based on nothing. Its the usual grift from fascists. Unfortunately.

>>536311489
>Good thing we as communists dont believe "everyone's equal"

that is the leftoid/communist ideology, retard. Otherwise you'd have no justification for abolishing private property to enforce equality.

>>536311489
Don't bother.
People on the right have ZERO understanding of ecomonics, it's why they get cucked so easily by the jew.

>>536311986
ok, but most people today believe in racial equality

>>536312033
I couldn't believe they said desu
>"I'm a communist that doesn't believe in equality
What a retarded nigger

>>536312033
>Otherwise you'd have no justification for abolishing private property to enforce equality.
You don't need to believe in equality to take assets away from the jew, Gomez, you braindead rat.
EVERY single nation on earth engage in some form of property take over.

>>536312033
Again, like with the other guy, these are your misrepresentations and strawmen of what we, as communists, believe. What we're after is for people to have a bit of class solidarity, and in order to do that we all need to cooperate, in bare minimum fashion only, in order to organize in our class interests against the wealthy. Right? So white guys, black guys, gay guys, eskimo guys......We all have a unified class interest against the wealthy. I am not telling you to suck another man's dick, or marry your daughter off to a black man. I am just telling you that we all need to cooperate a little bit, on a bare minimum level, or else the wealth will continue to divide us, subjugate us and ultimately fuck us all. THOSE are the communist views, and none of your strawmen of us. Right wing strawmen are fictional.

>>536312045
Communism is jewish you stupid shitskin

>>536312130
As is what passes for "capitalism" today, you dumb Paki.

>>536312033
>>536312118
>or else the wealth will continue to divide us
this should read "or else the wealthy* will continue to divide us".

Quite an important distinction, in fact. Changes the whole post's meaning. Dramatically.

>>536312130
What is this whole "communism is jewish" scam you people meme?

You base your entire (obviously fake) propaganda around telling people that under western capitalism Jews have managed to accrue all wealth, and are secret puppetmasters of our entire society, who hold all of the power. Then whenever anyone discusses taking away the wealth and redistributing it, you go "communism is jewish!"

I mean, its so fucking blatantly hypocritical. So obvious you dont believe your own rhetoric. None.

Can anyone with a good knowledge of history tell me why the fuck the founding fathers and people like Lincoln could ever say something as absolutely fucking retarded as "all men are created equal" and even going as far as to say that it is "self-evident". Did they never ever hear of cases of men born blind, retarded, etc.? Did they just these invalids as not men in order to be able to say that "all men are created equal"? How could they believe in something so obviously self-evidently wrong as the notion that "men are all equal"?

>>536312220
fuck off back to africa you retarded ape

>>536311371
>You can't believe that all races are equal, and not support the total even redistribution of global wealth.

Yeah you can. If you believed all races were equal then why would you need to redistribute wealth? Surely if you think everyone is equal that that means everyone has the same amount of wealth, thus no need for wealth redistribution. You'd have to believe in inequality before you'd ever entertain any ideas about wealth redistribution.

>>536312236
Someone else pointed out Lincoln didn't really believe it- was just a retarded lie to get the goycattle to die for niggers

>>536312112
That's not really relevant to the discussion on communism though, obviously if say, your ideology is that jews are uniquely subversive and destructive, they would be treated differently.
>>536312118
>what we, as communists, believe.

You should read what actual communists in history believed and not repeat whatever made up version you concocted in your head. Actual communists believe in enforced equality through social force, including the abolition of private property. Anyone being more successful than anyone else is ipso facto a sign of oppression that must be reversed and punished with a long stretch in the gulag .

>>536312292
no, if you believe that niggers and Whites are equal, how could you look at africa and it's poverty and think "that's fine"?

>>536311716
>deflecting from the jews

Some communist you are. A real communist would abolish Judaism. You can't have a crazy retard religion that demands genital mutilation around and does all the other crazy shit they do and have communism. Make all jews renounce religion or die. Not just renounce it with their words but also ban circumcision and other jewish shit, no more torturing chickens, no more obsessive studying of Torah (unless it's paired with communist critique), no more continuing any Jewish traditions, etc. I hate religions. If you communists can't stomp out religion what are you even good for?

>>536311873
You said that, multiple times. You're a hypocrit. At least we in the right assume to be against egalitarism, we don't lie.

>>536311835
So you're against giving foreigners free healthcare and will only give free healthcare to citizens, right? You're a fellow... National Socialist?

>>536312364
He has to be trolling at this point- the foundation of communism is equality

>>536312364
>That's not really relevant to the discussion on communism though,
You claimed that a believe in total racial equality is needed to justify resource redistribution, I proved you wrong.
You don't even have to be anti Semitic to justify the process, fucking taxes are a form of resource redistribution, resource distribution is a basic function of any state.

>>536312364
"Actually communists in history" did not believe in, or do, any of the things people on the right pretend they believed in, or did. Period.
>>536312398
You use Jews as ethnic scapegoats to protect the wealthy, and yourselves. That's all. When you need to divert blame away from yourselves or your wealthy frens, you immediately run to just say "blame the jews" then diverting all of that blame away from yourselves and your precious wealthy.
>>536312437
No. Your views are opposed to universal healthcare no matter what other empty rhetoric you hold. You use race, other identity politics, and Jewish or leftist scapegoats to make sure everyone loses their healthcare.

Whether they're citizens or not.

In the United States you have a unique situation where our entire economy is dependent on mass immigration, due to your own policies on the right. As for whether or not immigrants should have healthcare in that context, its an open matter of debate.

But if you had communists in power, then your country wouldnt have any immigration in the first place. All immigration, 100% of it, comes from you people on the right, and Americans are then brainwashed in the MSM and big tech to blame "jews" or "leftists" for your openborders crimes.

>>536312118
I don't have an issue with rich people existing and I don't give a shit about class I only care about creating a world where the races don't mix and everyone practices eugenics and the best from each race create the next generation. I'm obsessed with biological perfection. I don't want people who are just the worst dregs to obtain any resources from the rich, I want them to die. I also don't want riches in the hands of people who will use said riches not for the benefit of my ethnic group but rather to harm my ethnic group. I want all the duel-citizens abolished from government and to seize the wealth from foreigners that have bought up and gained control over many industries.

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>>536312472
I said a communist needs the belief in equality to justify abolishing private property, not general "resource redistribution". You do realize communists don't just seek to tax the rich, right? They want the total abolition of all private property.

>>536312554
They actually did, and they would even go to war for the right to abolish private property (which always failed) but it remained their ideology nonetheless. It sounds like you just want to larp as a communist without adopting their ideals of total abolition of private property, enforced equality, etc.

>>536312569
No. None of this racism from you is real. All of this racism is totally fake and forced. Its intended to divert people's attention away from "class warfare" and on to "culture warfare", because "culture warfare" does not threaten the profits or bank accounts of big money.

And we've seen over the last 15 years in America, since Citizen's United and OWS, how these fruitless and pointless manufactured culturewars are used to distract people from their class struggle.

>>536312443
commies are too retarded to understand their egalitarism come from the illuminatis of Bavaria.

>>536312220
I would have very much liked to have lived in National Socialist Germany and I would very much like to live in any other National Socialist nation and every nation that has practiced National Socialism did it right and it was beautiful.

Now where is your example of a communist nation that did it right and which represents real communism to you? Usually you guys won't go to North Korea, China, Cuba, or any other communist nation to live there. Trust me, I'd be booking the first ticket to a National Socialist country if one existed right now, not making excuses to not live there and saying "but it wasn't real National Socialism". I bet you're going to tell me now that every communist country wasn't real communism.

>>536312620
>They actually did
Actually, you can doubledown on your fake rhetoric about what communists do, and believe, until you're blue in the face. Its your own rightwing strawmen.

Most notably of all, in your post, communists unequivocally do not believe in "the abolition of private property", no matter how many times you post this entirely taken-out-of-context quote by Marx. And you know that.

But your propaganda relies on lying. Lying and misrepresenting.

>>536311371

Communism is a resentment-based ethos that culminates in anti-heterosexual, anti-white, and anti-male sentiment in the modern day, just as in Marx’s day it was predominantly a Jewish anti-European doctrine

>>536312671
>Usually you guys won't go to North Korea, China, Cuba, or any other communist nation to live there.
Well they don't accept immigrants, for one thing. Mass immigration is the feature of your right wing fascist shitholes. Not something in communist countries. Because your political rhetoric is all fake. And its all intended only to grift unfortunate uninformed people into voting for policies which ultimately only benefit the wealthy, while unironically leaving the nation fully dependent on mass immigration to stay afloat. And 1930s Germany was similar a dystopia, and did not even have closed borders. In fact, there was a uniquely pernicious child-kidnapping mass immigration scam.

>>536312386
If I believed that niggers and whites are equal I wouldn't believe Africa requires any intervention, I wouldn't believe in helping them, and I would think that we could do business with them and cooperate in many ways.

Equals don't get shielded from criticism either, don't get special treatment, etc.

In order for me to believe niggers and whites are equal I'd have to never look at Africa or be lied to about what is going on in Africa and be told a story that they built an advanced society similar to Japan there.

One simply can not look at Africa and continue to believe that niggers and whites are equal.

>>536312767
>One simply cannot look at africa and continue to believe that niggers and whites are equal
Exactly- and because they are so clearly not equal, there is no rationale for pretending they are

>>536312554
>You use Jews as ethnic scapegoats to protect the wealthy, and yourselves. That's all. When you need to divert blame away from yourselves or your wealthy frens, you immediately run to just say "blame the jews" then diverting all of that blame away from yourselves and your precious wealthy.

No. I have pattern recognition and the ability to use the internet and listen to what people have to say and I've learned the jews are not an irrelevant and powerless group of fringe religious retards but in total control of America and abusing the American people for the interests of Israel. I've learned they practice abhorrent things like the genital mutilation of boys. I've learned they control the media, the government, etc. and that people who go against them get debanked, harassed, fired, censored, etc.

I can't believe you're even trying to defend the Jews here as a supposed communist. I know several communists and they hate the Jews just like me. The only reason I can see for you defending the Jews here is you yourself are one too.

>>536312767
>If I believed that niggers and whites are equal I wouldn't believe Africa requires any intervention, I wouldn't believe in helping them, and I would think that we could do business with them and cooperate in many ways.
Without wading into the whole "are whites and blacks equal" business, which believe it or not I am far more uninterested in as a communist than you would imagine, I will most certainly note that "helping africa" is not what US or broad western presence there is doing. Not 1 bit. Total opposite. We're exploiting them. But not even for the profit of you or me or anyone else on this board. But only for the profit of a handful of wealthy people.

>>536312677
>communists don't believe what they have always believed in

this is fascinating cope

> entirely taken-out-of-context quote by Marx

It's not out of context at all, anyone can read the communist manifesto and see Marx is fine with public property, not private property.

>Lying and misrepresenting.

the final communist cope, project their own endless lies and attempts at misleading onto others.

>>536312443
he wouldnt be the first communist that doesnt understand his own "religion".

>>536312858
There isnt anything else to say about it than this:
>You use Jews as ethnic scapegoats to protect the wealthy, and yourselves. That's all. When you need to divert blame away from yourselves or your wealthy frens, you immediately run to just say "blame the jews" then diverting all of that blame away from yourselves and your precious wealthy.
The end. You exist to manipulate people with propaganda into protecting the wealthy.

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>>536312918
>don't pay attention to how many of the elite are jews, goy that's just a diversion

lmao

>>536312554
>No. Your views are opposed to universal healthcare no matter what other empty rhetoric you hold.

No fucking shit I'm opposed to universal healthcare, where did I say otherwise? I live in Canada btw, so I don't have retarded American Republican views about this. I believe that all persons who are non-white should be denied any form of health care whatsoever. Even if they have money to pay for it they should be denied and left to suffer or die. That is my stance on healthcare. As for white people, be they the poorest white man or rich, all should have healthcare paid for by the rich. I'm a Nationalist and a Socialist.

>You use race, other identity politics, and Jewish or leftist scapegoats to make sure everyone loses their healthcare.

Wrong. I want healthcare for all whites. Just non-whites should not receive any healthcare, period.

>Whether they're citizens or not.

In my mind all whites of the world are citizens of my nation and all non-whites are non-citizens. So any white person could be given healthcare and treated no matter what economic zone they migrated from. As for non-whites that have an imaginary piece of paper saying they are a citizen, of course they should be denied healthcare, even if they are super rich and can easily overpay for it they still shouldn't be given healthcare.

>In the United States you have a unique situation where our entire economy is dependent on mass immigration, due to your own policies on the right. As for whether or not immigrants should have healthcare in that context, its an open matter of debate.

The economy in the United States is being killed by mass immigration. They'd have an economic golden age if all immigration was stopped and all non-whites kicked out.

>>536312891
Anon, its the only thing you people can do to just relentlessly misrepresent us. Its all you have, ultimately.

No. Our views are not the random and unfortunate views you ascribe to us. Our views most certainly do not involve "the abolition of private property" and thats just a basic thing literally every communist will openly tell you. And if anyone wanted to read the communist manifesto, the context of that quote would make it quite clear we do not believe in any such thing. All you can do though is just keep on saying "u believe in [x shitty thing]" because you know, in reality, that our views are not shitty. They're just threatening to your precious status quo and your precious ultra wealthy people who are only benefiting from it.

>>536312554
>But if you had communists in power, then your country wouldnt have any immigration in the first place. All immigration, 100% of it, comes from you people on the right, and Americans are then brainwashed in the MSM and big tech to blame "jews" or "leftists" for your openborders crimes.

Well I was going to object to what you're saying here but then I remembered that in every communist country they actively try to stop people from emigrating and they do indeed have zero immigration as everyone is desperate to escape a communist shithole. Honestly, if living under communist bullshit is the price we have to pay to end all immigration and get the non-whites out, then I'm all for it. However I believe you'd try and get in the way of me gulaging all the non-whites.

>>536312949
Those people aren't Jewish, in many instances. Steve Balmer, for example, is "possibly 1/8th Jewish". I mean, you mix up 2 different definitions of what it means to be "jewish" in order to fabricate this appearance of a gross discrepancy in per capita wealth. 1 which is totally fictional.
>You use Jews as ethnic scapegoats to protect the wealthy, and yourselves. That's all. When you need to divert blame away from yourselves or your wealthy frens, you immediately run to just say "blame the jews" then diverting all of that blame away from yourselves and your precious wealthy.
>The end. You exist to manipulate people with propaganda into protecting the wealthy.

And it would all be irrelevant anyway since by even your own funny admission most of the America's wealthy aren't Jewish.

>>536312641
Fuck culture and fuck class I'm about RACE. I want biological warfare. The class struggle is meaningless, the culture war is transient, it's the ascent of white people that matters. Rich people trying to stop whites from perfecting their race and creating a perfect all-white eugenically enhanced society is my issue. I'll kill the rich too but because they're jews and racemixers not because they're rich. I'd protect someone like Henry Ford because he was based.

>>536312986
>t the random

literally the foundational defining belief of communism. Without abolition of private property there is nothing to distinguish communism from any other ideology

>>536313068
Why do you lie? Is it just out of a generalized habit from being communist that you then apply to every facet of your life?

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer

>Ballmer's mother was Jewish.[15] Through his mother, Ballmer is a second cousin of actress and comedian Gilda Radner.[13]

>>536312961
You're probably an Indian lol

Anyone who's a nazi is a retard. White race is pathetic and inferior to Asians in terms of iq and inferior to Africans in terms of physiscal strength

>>536313109
Amen, Brother. Race is destiny

>>536313109
>I'd protect someone like Henry Ford because he was based.

What a boot licker

>>536312961
>No fucking shit I'm opposed to universal healthcare, where did I say otherwise?
> I want healthcare for all whites. Just non-whites should not receive any healthcare, period.
No, see? This is just the empty excuse you use to try evade being held responsible for your class oppression of everyone, including poor and working class white people, whom you are openly denying healthcare to. You're using the identity politics as your excuse to deny the lower classes healthcare and its just an obvious excuse.

And this is how fascism works. And its because you know theres absolutely no danger of America ever instituting a "universal healthcare for whites only" plan. And the moment someone even tried to do that, hypothetically, you would be the first 1 there opposing it. Because your politics are just about finding any excuse you can to benefit wealthy people. And demagoguery AKA blindly appealing to race, is the laziest, easiest way to do this.

All of your talking about "whites" and "how much you care about whites" is completely fake. You exist to fuck whites. Along with your fascist frens. You use race as your excuse to fuck them without them rising up and fucking hanging you for how you have oppressed them for billionaires.

>>536312655
You're absolutely fucking retarded if you believe what you just said. I'm from Bavaria, my mother is Bavarian, and the Illuminati was formed as a resistance to the Catholic theocracies of the time. Other issues were entertained over the years but the primary thinking uniting every member of the Illuminati was a desire for a secular state and to create a society in which rational inquiry and questioning everything was permissible. The Illuminati achieved its objective (overthrow theocracy) and is now just working on getting rid of the last traces of theocracies in other parts of the world. When the Illuminati wins it means we have an entirely secular world where we can all explore the mysteries of the cosmos without some fat hypocrite priestly figure, imam, etc. telling us we can't question this or that. The Illuminati formed because of what the church did to Galileo and it's become rather irrelevant / disseminated today because now our objectives are mostly complete. America was founded by the Illuminati to allow people to escape theocratic bullshit. Hence the ubiquitous Illuminati symbolism everywhere in America. The Illuminati did nothing wrong, the Catholic church just seethes about us and makes up lies now, and schizophrenics come up with crazy bullshit about us.

>>536313109
>>536313147
You guys dont want any of this racewar. None of that is what youre about. Its empty vice-signaling.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling#Vice_signalling
Just empty pandering so you can keep your oppressed victims, who are mostly white, voting for the financial interests of your billionaires. While you take everything from them. While you rape them, and oppress them. While you murder them for your own profit. Making empty promises for them which never come to fruition.

Its so clear. You try to sell the empty edgelording so hard. But its so clear. So obvious.

>>536311371
It says they are created equal you deadshit. From then on people grow differently, have different IQ, skills, outlooks etc. You need to gtf out of GB and go back to Bombay or Sri Lanka or Africa wherever you come from.

>>536312743
Did you even apply to any of them? I think North Korea will take you, they've taken in some defectors before.

>while unironically leaving the nation fully dependent on mass immigration to stay afloat.

There's no such thing as a system that depends on immigration to stay afloat. Immigration kills socialist nations, it kills capitalist nations, it kills any nation. Immigration is just a nice way of saying foreign invasion that goes unresisted.

Also why can't we have North Korea but for white people?

>>536313226
lol you filthy commie

>>536313342
Semantics, 'created equal' in this context is the same as saying they are equal.

>>536313120
It's not "a lie", all that means is that his mom is partly jewish. You people use 2 different definitions of what makes someone "a jew" in order to pretend theres this big disparity. You always do this. 3% of the US population might be religiously, ethnically Jewish. But when you make your dumb memes and jewstars on peoples foreheads, you put them on anyone who has even 1 drop of jewish blood. 1/8th or 1/16th jewish? then you put them as "jewish", even if they only have a jewish white.

And other times the attribution is just entirely fictional. In fact, roughly 20% of the population has some measurable Jewish ancestry. So theres no intense per capita wealth disparity at all, here.

And again, none of it matters, since your own rhetoric funnily acknowledges most wealthy people arent jewish.

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>>536313409
>it's not a lie
>literally saying the opposite of the cited source that his mother is jewish

what level of cope is this?

>>536313254
No, I want White ethnostates

>>536312819
The way people act towards niggers tells me that nobody believes they are equal. People respond with a weird fetishization of them and lording it over them (leftoids) or hating them (rightoids). There's never a neutral response to them where it's just respect. It's always a looking down on them. Leftists, Christian missionaries, Republicans, Democrats, etc. everyone looks down on Africa just in different ways. Probably the only people who believe Africans are equals are the types who think Wakanda is real.

>>536313369
No. I didnt "apply" to them. But let me tell you something right here, anon. Youre really owning the lib with the whole "y dont u move to the communist countries if u like them so much" rhetoric. this one always sells with everyone. it always impresses everyone.
>There's no such thing as a system that depends on immigration to stay afloat.
Heh. You're an openborders advocate. Youre openly trying to gaslight people about the cause of mass immigration so they can never fix it. This complete openborders attitude and racial apathy is, in fact, whats ultimately behind every one of you edgelording "white pride" fascists. Because the "White Pride" is just one of the tools you use to keep your victims voting for billionaires.

>>536313439
Yeah, its not "a lie" though. Its just wikipedia entries change over time, and the last time I had this discussion on /pol/ was probably 2 years ago. Anyway, more importantly, youre ignoring every 1 of the important points in favor of what you perceive to be a cheap, pointless "gotcha". But, I'm sorry to have to tell you, the main points are much more important.

>>536313455
Exactly, well said

>>536312880
I want African nations to benefit African people, to be populated by African people, for African industry to employ African people, and for them to form wealthy and stable societies where eugenics is practiced. In short I want niggers to become National Socialists too. I want every country in the world to be Nationalist and Socialist. It's better for ALL OF US. I do not benefit from niggers being so poor and disgusting and miserable. Africa needs to sort itself out, and the only way I can see that happening, is them expelling the foreign exploiters and also killing their own criminals and degenerates until only competent and intelligent Africans are left over that can actually create a functioning and stable society. We should try to identify who are the most superior Africans and indoctrinate them with National Socialism and get them to create countries that are eugenic in nature.

>>536313402
No its not you lying commie go back to Russia

>>536312891
To be fair to the communist retard in this thread, there's more flavors of communism than just Marxism. If he's not a Marxist then maybe he's a Leninist, a Stalinist, a Maoist, a Juche, a rainbowfreak, or some other flavor of communism.

>>536313530
None of this empty rhetoric represents your actual views, which are just to sell people empty nationalism and identity politics in order to manipulate them away from voting for their class interests. And instead voting for the financial interests of billionaires.

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>>536313505
Let's end this, you just accept you're retarded and that Steve Ballmer's mother is jewish.

Lincoln was in bed with the railroad baron kikes. But he was actually trying to remove the nigger from the US. And they had the kike John Wilks Booth murder him before he could remove the niggers.

>>536313570
Karl Marx, nor Marxists, did not believe in "the abolition of private property", at any point in history. Your relentless misrepresentation of us as such is just another 1 of your many knowing, deliberate lies. And you've based it on what you absolutely know is an out-of-context statement. And you know its out-of-context because you surely hear us telling you this anytime you bring it up. Which is frequent.

>>536312918
The wealthy are jews. If you kill the wealth you kill the jews. You refusing to find out who the wealthy are is ridiculous. The jews are not scapegoats, they are the one class of people who can't be criticized, who control America and force America into endless wars for Israel. America is always defending not the interests of "the wealthy" but of the jews. Wealthy people have been fucked over countless times by the jews. Wealth gets burned all the time to protect jewish interests. America is not a society about capitalism or wealth accumulation, it's a society that will absolutely sacrifice enormous amounts of capital to protect Jewish interests. If America was purely capitalist, it would not do so many things that are against the interests of capitalism.

>>536313580
I'm never "not accepting it" here in this thread. You're just focused on it because its a minor rhetoric error I made, which you falsely believe gives you freedom to ignore every other point I wrote in comments above, and pretend you "won something", when IRL no one cared.

>>536312986
The way you speak as if you spoke for all communists is completely disingenuous. Real communists have different flavors of communism and thus don't agree on anything but sort of have a similar shared ethos/theme. I couldn't really say core principles because communists don't even have core principles, and you yourself are demonstrative of that, since there are communists who abolish private property but then there's ones like you that purportedly are fine with private property.

>>536313637
First of all, you clearly understand the vast majority of wealthy people are not jews.

I mean, every piece of nazi rhetoric makes the claim that jews are 30-40% of wealthy people (which is bullshit). So, I mean, you clearly don't believe "jews are the wealthy". Its just something youre saying in order to protect wealthy people.

2nd of all, if you did believe this, then you wouldnt have any problem just leaving everything at "the wealthy".

And lastly, youre doing what fascists always do when you get called out which is to try to mask your pro-establishment politics with phony edgelord rhetoric about "killing this person, and killing that person", but the indisputable and obvious fact here is that youre doing this to protect wealthy people, no matter their ethnicity. Even if they are jewish. Ultimately.

>>536313731
No. We all more or less have the same core set of views and "abolish private property" is not part of that point of view.

Once more, these are your false mischaracterizations of us in order to stop your political opposition.

>>536313068
There's enough wealthy jews in power that all the other wealthy people are forced to be zionists or have all their wealth taken from them. No other group dominates the wealthy like Judaism does right now. People don't fear criticizing the Scottish and getting debanked. They don't fear the Dutch are going to come after them for saying tulips aren't the beste bloemen op alles. Yet every wealthy person fears losing all their wealth if they get in the way of the zionist agenda. The jews can turn a billionaire into a hobo overnight. The jews don't answer to anyone, everyone answers to the jews.

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>>536313663
If you didn't care you wouldn't have brought it up as your own little "gotcha" despite the fact you were obviously incorrect and anyone who could bother to use google for two seconds could verify it.

The fact is you have to lie about jews being overrepresented as the oppressive elites because that contradicts the entire communist "equality" lie that all nations, races, ethnicities, etc are exactly the same.

>>536313825
You know, theres not much else to say to you in this regard than I already did above >>536313766.

>>536311371
this level of gaslighting is unreal

>>536313130
You're utterly wrong and delusional. All the strongmen are from Iceland and similar countries near to them. Whites are the strongest in the world. Niggers weak compared to whites. Niggers are only good at long-distance running and also sprinting. They are really fast and have really good endurance, that is all. When it comes to strength though whites are the absolute master of strength.

Also when it comes to IQ the average of Asians is higher but the whites produce more geniuses. A high average IQ is conducive to a stable society but it's a race that produces geniuses that moves everyone forward. When you compare the intellectual elite of whites vs Asians the chinks don't stand a chance. The white race just has too many retards in it that haven't been culled yet that are bringing down the average. When it comes to IQ whites have far more geniuses and that's all that really matters.

Hello, I'm your basic center-left liberal. I love capitalism. I'd like some wealth distribution, because social safety nets improve the overall happiness and thus success of a country taken as a whole, rather than the GDP success of a handful of corporations. Why not total redistribution? Because, despite corporate overlords being almost entirely inhuman sociopaths, they build the wealth needed for redistribution in the first place, and they do so REALLY well. It's liberty, lib as in freedom, that allows for the environment creative *individuals* thrive in. What the government may deem "waste" or "too risky" or "unnecessary luxury" becomes possible when private individuals are given the freedom to invest in the creative individuals. Liberty is the core of America's innovative success. Communism can't do this. Communism can't allow for luxury when there are priorities, and it can't allow for total freedom of innovation, and it can't build the wealth needed to sustain itself.

>>536313833
I think youre seemingly very proud of yourself about your minor error you caught me in. And you should masturbate yourself prolifically tonight in congratulations. And tell your wife about how you find this minor error I made, and maybe she will have many orgasms from knowing. But the fact of the matter is that your own fascist rhetoric makes it very clear that 60-70% of wealthy people arent jews. And thats even using your own phony numbers. And so it becomes very clear that you exist for only 1 person: to divert blame for our problems away from "the wealthy" and onto "the jews" or whatever other convenient scapegoat you find. To protect wealthy people. You're professionals. You're paid to post these things too.

>>536313147
Demographics are destiny.

Everything else is downstream of biology.

Even the Libertarian Historian Will Durant noted this repeatedly in his lectures (listen to him on youtube).

Rome was plagued with many problems but it's fall was ultimately because of the quality of the population, it became too dysgenic, and so it fell.

The rise and fall of nations is tied to biology.

>>536313181
Why would you ever dislike Henry Ford?

Also you communists are busy defending the wealthy zionist elite, you're the bootlickers. I'm just defending one dead guy's honor. Every rich person today is worth killing but you'd all stop short of doing it when you find out they're Jewish.

>>536313916
>asians is higher but Whites produce more geniuses
Thank you for pointing this out- orientals are effective bureaucrats but lack that spark of divinity that is unique to Europeans

>>536314011
Yeah communists are definitely the ones known to be...*checks notes*..."defending wealthy zionist elites". Nice comment there. Its people like you who shill the most retarded and obviously fake antisemitism who always are ultimately, comically, pro zionists (but you'll never admit it openly).

Once more, your politics only exist to protect the wealthy by diverting blame for society's problems onto the infamous Jewish scapegoat.

>>536313966
I agree 100%

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>>536313957
>jews are half of richest billionaires
>over half of the biggest donors controlling the political system
>responsible for bribing the US into wars that commit genocide in the middle east
>but they're just a scapegoat

communists are so delusional that they have to be controlled opposition. Because how else could they be this stupid and gullible?

>>536313192
>No, see? This is just the empty excuse you use to try evade being held responsible for your class oppression of everyone, including poor and working class white people, whom you are openly denying healthcare to.

Holy strawman. I live in CANADA you fucking RETARD. We have socialism here, we have free healthcare, I'm not a fucking Republican zionist dipshit. I don't deny white people healthcare and when I see a white person in need I try to help them get to the hospital. It's just the non-whites that I won't help out, I'll leave them to die.

>You're using the identity politics as your excuse to deny the lower classes healthcare and its just an obvious excuse.

I'm not denying anyone healthcare but I sure wish I was. I want to deny nonwhites healthcare.

>And this is how fascism works. And its because you know theres absolutely no danger of America ever instituting a "universal healthcare for whites only" plan.

I'm not an American you fucking retard.

>And the moment someone even tried to do that, hypothetically, you would be the first 1 there opposing it.

Strawman from the guy who is so concerned about not being strawmanned as a communist. I already live in a socialist state with free healthcare and I'm not opposing it. I also don't vote for a conservative once in my whole life. I voted green party, then libertarian party, then people's party of Canada.

>Because your politics are just about finding any excuse you can to benefit wealthy people.

Strawman. My politics are about finding any excuse I can to enforce eugenics and bring fourth the master race(s).

>And demagoguery AKA blindly appealing to race, is the laziest, easiest way to do this.

Actually talking about race is the hardest thing you can do and if I was a demogogue capitalist who only cared about capital I'd steer clear of the controversy of race.

>>536314011
>>536313966
>>536313916
>>536313825
>>536313731
Do you people who are on this website BTW, do you understand this poster I'm tagging above is not racist? He's not racist. He's not antisemitic. He's not anti zionist. He's sure not anti capitalist. He sure doesnt give a damn about white people. And hes fully for openborders.

Do you really not get how strained and obviously overwrought the racism is? Do you not see its being used as a tool in order to get you on board with an agenda which only revolves around capitalism.

And this capitalist system only makes you, in the end, need more immigrants. Don't you understand? It's all fake.

It's all the biggest grift. You're being just fucking brutally grifted.

>>536314160
No. You're not a "socialist nation in Canada". You're a market economy. And, most importantly, you have private ownership of the means of production. I didnt read much passed that, but you need to learn to keep your comments brief. Learn just mild fucking brevity.

>>536313192
>All of your talking about "whites" and "how much you care about whites" is completely fake.

It's the only thing that is real about me besides my belief that consciousness is fundamental and materialist reductionism is debunked bullshit.

>You exist to fuck whites.

I'm a poor white man that was homeless since August 2017 and whom posts on /pol/. How in the world am I fucking whites?

>Along with your fascist frens.

Go read Julius Evola's critiques of fascism. Fascism puts the state above everything. I put the race above everything.

"The state is a means to an end. Its end lies in the preservation and advancement of a community of physically and psychically homogenous creatures." -- Adolf Hitler

^ THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE ABOUT THE STATE.

>You use race as your excuse to fuck them without them rising up and fucking hanging you for how you have oppressed them for billionaires.

No doubt you're some rich fuck saying this shit to me. I have no money in my bank account and spent a lot of my life eating out of dumpsters and I'm stealing wifi right now. I also support piracy and linux and many things the Chinese communists do. I believe that intellectual property is bullshit and that knowledge must be shared.

>>536314136
Your own fascist rhetoric on Jews is that they represent somewhere between 30-40% of the world's wealthiest people. Which is a fundamentally fake number, but whatever. For the sake of brevity, we'll just move passed that for the moment, and recognize how fundamentally phony it is that you sit there trying to protect the other 60-70% of the worlds wealthy by screaming "JEWS! JEWS! JEWS!" anytime anyone brings up some leftwing ideas about organizing on the basis of class against the wealthy.

>>536314262
Youre literally some openborders capitalist who is paid to post here, and to try to manipulate people into an entirely basicbitch republican agenda with fake edgelord racism. And antisemitism which is, for the 1,000th time now, clearly used to protect wealthy people by diverting blame away from them and on to "the jews" as their scapegoats.

>>536313254
>You guys dont want any of this racewar. None of that is what youre about. Its empty vice-signaling.

I want a race war. If you don't want to be strawmanned by others stop strawmanning me. I'm trying to give you a higher level of courtesy than other anons in this thread in taking you at your word about things when it comes to you and your flavor of communism, so you could at least have the decency of being reciprocal in nature, and stop making up bullshit about me and my beliefs.

>Just empty pandering so you can keep your oppressed victims, who are mostly white, voting for the financial interests of your billionaires. While you take everything from them. While you rape them, and oppress them. While you murder them for your own profit. Making empty promises for them which never come to fruition.

I've consistently voted in every election for the party that had the least votes, aside from a few elections where there were quite a few joke party candidates and it was hard to pick the one that would get the least votes. I've never voted conservative, ndp, liberal, etc. in my life.

>Its so clear. You try to sell the empty edgelording so hard. But its so clear. So obvious.

Strawmanning fucktard. Is your ideology so weak you can't respond to anything but imaginary devil capitalist boogiemens?

>>536314262
>>536314386
By the way, almost everyone on /pol/ is doing what I am describing in this post up here >>536314386. For anyone not to see it. Well then, you know, theyve been had.

>>536313342
At no point in the conception of a human is there any such thing as equality. Even the quality of sperm and eggs varies. Even taking "created equal" in an ultra narrow sense it's still just not true.

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>>536314347
>the WORLDS

you realize jews aren't even close to 30-40% of the world population right? They are clearly the evil exploitative elite par excellence, as even Marx said, ironically. This disproves any idea of cultures or races being equally, as jews are generically and culturally programmed to be the unproductive extractive parasite class. But while Marx said jews could be fixed by communism, you deny jews are a problem at all.

>>536314404
>I want a race war.
No. You dont. Its only what I described here above >>536314386. Its unbelievably clear. I hope your superiors demote you, and dock your pay. You are such an overwrought panderer. You are so obvious.

>>536311371
The "all men are created equal" didn't include niggers, obviously. They were taking a shot at King George and the "divine right of kings." European monarchs believed they were given authority to rule over men by God.

>>536313386
You calling me a commie is like someone calling someone Hitler because Hitler drank water and you saw them drinking water so since both drank water they must be Hitler. I have points of agreement and disagreement with communists.

>>536314467
Well lets think about it. Whats your fascist political numbers on jews? that they're 3% of the population?

So then 6% of the population is half jewish.
Then 12% would be 1 quarter jewish.
24% being 1/8th Jewish.
And how many would be married to Jewish wives? Or 1/8th Jewish wives?

Wow, these numbers add up quickly, and we begin to see where your little Jewish stars on your lil' nazi memes come from. Yeah, its all phony. Youve tricked people with fake statistics. Statistics based on something real but presented in deceptive, sneaky ways, in order to protect the wealthy with your infamous Jewish scapegoats.

>>536313409
Lets just put aside entirely the issue of whether or not these wealthy people are jews in a biological sense. THEY ARE ALL ZIONISTS. Which means they are entirely controlled by Jews / Jewish interests. Jews are in complete control of the wealth and the countries.

>>536314495
but the US Civil War was fought to abolish slavery, surely that means he is including niggers when he says all men are equal, no?

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>>536314558
>>536314467
BTW, heres some info to correlate what I wrote above.
25% of hispanics have jewish ancestry.
>https://www.jpost.com/magazine/genetic-research-almost-25-percent-of-latinos-hispanics-have-jewish-dna-581959
20% of the Spanish have jewish ancestry.
>https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/world/europe/04iht-gene.4.18411385.html
A random sample of 611 white people shows 104 (17%) of them reported some form of jewish ancestry.
>https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/gb-2009-10-1-r7
So its all fake, man. All of your fascist rhetoric is fake. Demonstrably. You only doubledown on it, no matter what, in order to protect the wealthy. Thats all any of you do here is protect the wealthy with manipulation.

>>536314610
Oh, hahahahahaha, now we've moved the goalposts from "theyre jewish" to "theyre zionists". But zionism is part of the rightwing power structure in this country because Israel in important to our oil interests in the middle east. So, of course theyre zionists. Because zionism is important to America's continued dominance in middle eastern oil.

Which is why people like you are always zionists, even though youll never admit it. Youll always just be like "nuh uh, im based! im racist! im nazi!" but youre very obviously propagandists for zionism on this board, if even just the most superficial layers of your rhetoric are peeled back. For example, most of this rhetoric here is ultimately designed just to get more basicbitch republicans elected. Even though you will possibly not admit this.

>>536313226
>shilling for the illuminatis on /pol/
lmfao this board is so shit

>>536314725
>>536314610
BTW everything im talking about here >>536314725 is why this board full of supposed "racist nazis" ended up being inherently tied to the election of 1 of the worlds most notorious zionists, for 3 cycles in a row. youre all phonies. youre all total opposites of everything you pretend. Youre openborders zionists.

>>536314558
>that they're 3% of the population?

jews aren't even close to 3% of the world population
>>536314663
>some form

so trace DNA, nothing like, oh say, Steve Ballmer having a jewish mother.

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>>536313465
It's a perfectly valid criticism because right now I'd sell everything I have and do whatever it takes to move to an all-white ethnostate if one formed. I also, despite being Canadian, applied for ICE back in August even though I knew I had no chance of being accepted due to not being American. If you're an American and haven't at least applied for ICE and yet claim to be racist here on /pol/ than you've lost all credibility in my eyes. You have several actually existent communist states you could at least make an effort to move to and haven't even tried yet you want me to take you seriously? You can't even bother to at least try? If you said you tried and got rejected that one be one thing, but you can't even be bothered to move to your perfect communist society that ALREADY FUCKING EXISTS? I sure as hell wouldn't remain in my country if a National Socialist white ethnostate formed somewhere on this planet, I'd be THERE.

>Heh. You're an openborders advocate.

Only for white people who aren't dysgenic.

>Youre openly trying to gaslight people about the cause of mass immigration so they can never fix it.

Nah that's you. Mass immigration is not in the interests of capitalists, it's in the interest of India and Israel.

>This complete openborders attitude and racial apathy is, in fact, whats ultimately behind every one of you edgelording "white pride" fascists. Because the "White Pride" is just one of the tools you use to keep your victims voting for billionaires.

Is Maxime Bernier a billionaire? Because that's who I advocate we all vote for. He's poorer I think than every other politician on the ballot you can currently vote for in Canada. His networth according to pic related he might not be a millionaire.

>>536313576
>None of this empty rhetoric represents your actual views, which are just to sell people empty nationalism and identity politics in order to manipulate them away from voting for their class interests. And instead voting for the financial interests of billionaires.

Strawman from the very asshole who said he didn't want to be strawmanned. My views are my actual views, provably and verifiably so. I can even screencap emails I get from the PPC. I could make a bet on that one site Lord Miles used, forget what it's called, and win when it comes to proving my views are my views. Everything you accuse me of is bullshit. I voted for a man who is poorer than Bernie Sanders.

But we're not equal. Are we? How has such a small group of monkeys conquered all the other monkeys? Money isn't everything though, you must be able to put your hands to things. I'll take the Pepsi challenge with the global shitskin.

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>>536313629
You don't speak for all communists, retard.

"The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property. But modern bourgeois private property is the final and most complete expression of the system of producing and appropriating products, that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few.

In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

The owner of marxists.org is directly contradicting you. Is he not a real marxist in your eyes? Is he misrepresenting communism?

Also your statements about Marx are utterly foolish.

>>536311371
You're just about the dumbest bong I've ever encountered

>>536315196
better than being a nigger

>>536313766
>First of all, you clearly understand the vast majority of wealthy people are not jews.

Jews are a disproportionate number of the wealthy and the ones that are not jews are all shabbos goyim. Deflecting from my main point which is that zionists are in complete control of capital by going into stupid arguments about the exact percentages doesn't detract from the fact that jews are disproportionately wealthy and powerful and calling all the shots.

>So, I mean, you clearly don't believe "jews are the wealthy". Its just something youre saying in order to protect wealthy people.

I can't think of a single wealthy person I'd have a problem with killing right now. There probably are some that exist but I'm ignorant about them. You on the other hand would cry and say sorry to a billionaire if you realized he was Jewish as you'd never want to dare touch your Jewish masters. Tell me otherwise. State plainly, without dodging, that you'd kill a rich billionaire Jew. I bet you'll not respond directly to this and go on about some other shit in my post in your next response.

>2nd of all, if you did believe this, then you wouldnt have any problem just leaving everything at "the wealthy".

I have a problem with it because in principle I'm not against the wealthy, I'm against Jewish hegemony. Right now Jewish hegemony and the wealthy are absolutely synonymous.

>And lastly, youre doing what fascists always do when you get called out which is to try to mask your pro-establishment politics with phony edgelord rhetoric about "killing this person, and killing that person", but the indisputable and obvious fact here is that youre doing this to protect wealthy people, no matter their ethnicity. Even if they are jewish. Ultimately.

Strawman. If you can't argue in good faith then I should just spam your stupid thread to death. I am not for protecting the wealthy. If I could collect enough cans to get enough money to fund you communists starting some violence I would.

>>536315225
I'm whiter than you, Ranjeet

>>536313803
Name one core principle or "view" you all share in common then. Just one.

>>536313833
>the entire communist "equality" lie that all nations, races, ethnicities, etc are exactly the same.

That's not what communists believe. That's what egalitarians believe. What communists believe is that everyone is unequal, but the cause of the inequality is purely economic, and that everyone should be forced to be equal by changing economics. Equality as such is a goal for the communists, it's not a reality. Otherwise to what exactly are communists working?

It's a stupid fucking goal btw because it always in practice means dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator since that's the only way to achieve equality. A better society should instead focus on crushing the most degenerate and useless and uplifting the best individuals to flourishing. In other words meritocracy absolutely mogs communism.

>>536313945
I'm okay with all that but we also need more freedom in a social darwinist sense. Legalize all drugs except maybe narcan. Let people destroy themselves in various ways. Also we need border control and to kick out all non-whites (except Native Americans since where the fuck would they even go they're already in the land of their ancestors).

>>536311489
Universalism is is catholic in orgin and only if they accept Christ

>>536313957
Go to a dictionary and look up one world: hegemony.

The jews have a hegemony. That's what we're concerned about. What percentage they have is a minor footnote, the fact is, they have total control. Even if the number of Jewish billionaires was completely proportional, which it is not, or even if they were a smaller portion than what would be expected; the issue remains that they have total control over the American law system, the American government, the American military, the American businesses, all of it. Every single ethnic group can be criticized in America except for Jews. Going against the Jews gets your life ruined in America. Same thing in many other countries too besides America. The jews have a complete stranglehold on everything. They even run all the political parties usually, making sure that every far-right party is usually controlled opposition, just in case. So no matter if you vote left, far left, center, right, far right you're always voting for Israel.

>>536313957
Here is a logic tree.


Jew = Zionist
Shabbos Goy = Zionist
Every wealthy person = Jew or Shabbos
America = Zionist Occupied Government

I'll be surprised if you can find even ONE wealthy that is not a zionist, neither Jew nor Shabbos Goy.

>>536311371
>all men are created equal
Demonstrably false and an utterly retarded thing to say.
I can't believe this retard is one of you guys' favourite presidents.

>>536314061
It's a burden always being supreme but I have to just deal with it. I wish I could argue that another race was superior to us as but it just isn't so. The whiter a country is the more everyone on the world starts making up excuses to try and be included there. The less white a country is the more people want to escape. Simple as that. The only non-white country that has a disturbingly high number of people trying to live there is Japan but I think if there was a pure white nation the size of Japan somewhere in this world people would want to be there even more than they'd want to be in Japan.

>>536311371
>my twin brother is equal to me
>therefore he can have all my stuff
Get off my board retard.

>>536314088
The Jews are not a scapegoat. The "wealthy" is a scapegoat. These people are ZIONISTS. Zionists create wars, create mass immigration, create ALL THE FUCKING PROBLEMS. Ignoring this is ignoring reality. Jewish hegemony is why America is fucked, not the existence of wealthy people. If there was not even one jew in America then it would be a paradise.

Someone having a lot of money, being really rich, it doesn't hurt me. It's when he uses his wealth to push zionism that it hurts me.

>>536314185
I am racist and I'm very much against Judaism and the Jewish ethnogroup ("antisemitic is such a misnomer"). I was on board with Zionism back when Brenton Tarrant did his thing but after many discussions about Zionism on /pol/ I realized that Hitler and many others have noted that Israel will just be a base of operation for the Jewish criminal cabal and indeed functions as such, so while in theory "a state for every race" is a nice slogan, the jews really should just be genocided. Any attempts to make them self-sufficient and keep to themselves just don't work, they are always parasites and they always have a desire to conquer and expand until they control the whole world.

As for not anti-capitalist? Yeah I'd say for once you said something right about me, after all those slanderous lies. I just want to kill the wealthy because they are part of the Jewish hegemony, not because they are wealthy. If someone like Henry Ford existed I'd be chill with him.

As for white people I care about the white race as a whole. There's many degenerates that need extermination.

As for open borders, sure, all whites are automatic citizens of my country and may travel here. All non-whites however are not allowed, period.

>>536314226
How the fuck is Canada not socialist we have all kinds of social programs in place to benefit the dregs, the workers, etc. we're extremely socialist. We have MAID, we have all drugs legal, we have free healthcare (I've been waiting for surgery for years now but eventually I should hopefully get it without having to pay anything), we give children food and other stuff free, we have shelters for the homeless, etc. we have so many social programs I am proud of and which have improved the quality of life for all Canadians.

As for private ownership of the means of production well Canada needs to seize certain assets that are currently owned by foreign Chinese.

>>536314386
>o try to manipulate people into an entirely basicbitch republican agenda
>republican

Look at my fucking flag you retard American and shut the fuck up.

>>536314386
>And antisemitism which is, for the 1,000th time now, clearly used to protect wealthy people by diverting blame away from them and on to "the jews" as their scapegoats.

How in the fuck can you say this.

Group Comparison (Illustrative Data) Median Household Income (Approx.) Median Net Worth (Approx.)
General U.S. Population $75,000 $120,000
Jewish Americans $90,000 – $100,000+ $200,000 – $300,000+

It's a fact that jews are wealthier than the average in America as a whole, and it's a fact that they have the highest relative proportion of wealthy among the mega-rich, and it's a fact they control the media and government and finances.

Killing all jews means killing a few poor jews here and there but mostly a ton of really rich bourgeois.

>>536314474
Jews print the money and jews are a race

>>536314431
>everyone that opposes my retardation is a secret Republican boogieman even if they aren't even from fucking America

Schizo-tier delusion you have.

>>536314474
I'm a homeless man in Canada and don't get paid for this shit.

I also care deeply about the environment too, haven't really talk about that in this thread, but the Georgia Guidestones motivate me too.

I like the Illuminati, I like the green movement, and I like Libertarianism, and I like National Socialism.

As for communists, are are okay, but you're not one of the okay ones. You're Jewish.

>>536314495
This shit is exactly why the Bavarian Illuminati existed btw and the creation of America its success is also why the Illuminati as a clandestine organization in opposition to theocracy has ceased to be a necessity. You don't need a secret society once you're in charge. Thank God America has succeeded but now the world is under threat of a new kind problem, zionists. Another form of theocracy.

>>536314725
>But zionism is part of the rightwing power structure in this country because Israel in important to our oil interests in the middle east.

Explain the invasion of multiple countries in the Middle East with no oil and the destruction of oil fields then in the ones that did have it (that oil never got used by Americans).

America is not involved in the Middle East because of oil and we could just trade for that stuff. Every single war in the Middle East is on behalf of Israel.

>For example, most of this rhetoric here is ultimately designed just to get more basicbitch republicans elected. Even though you will possibly not admit this.

I've created countless threads trashing Republicans and mocking Americans for not voting third party. I was cool with Trump when he made the right promises but lost interest in him when he immediately didn't deliver on any of his promises and started instead doing everything for Israel. By the time he got elected again I was just mocking Americans for "fell for it again" shit. I've also been posting "republicans and democrats same sides of the same jewish coin" memes on 4chan since 2007 way before Obama even became president. I like libertarian and green party candidates far more than republican and democrat. Also you're a self-centered American and think everything is about you.

>>536314758
The best you can do to critique the Illuminati is to bring fourth some obscure crazy shit someone who may or may not have been associated with had said once and make it out like it's the core doctrine of the Illuminati and everyone was about it, when in reality it was just the passing thought of a single individual somewhere and in no way representative of the underlying reason for the Illuminati having been formed, having existed, and having operated for as long as it did. The Illuminati was to avenge Galileo is the simplest way I can explain the whole organization.

>>536315573
No it's not universalism is an ancient doctrine far preceding the Catholics.

I guess the retard commie jew loser has given up because he got utterly humiliated continually in this thread without even a single fellow jew to back up his ridiculous claims and strawmans.

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>>536311371
no national borders, no racial barriers, abolition of private property, 'wife sharing' (sexual liberation), yeah communism is basically acid dissolving anything of substance, so the jews can erect his empire on the ruins of white nations. the base principle is easy to grasp.
>ordo ab chao

“The politically engaged German Jew instinctively works towards compromise in all matters; beyond that he pursues no other goal. Sudden, abrupt decisions go against his character, with the sole exception, of course, that being revolution.”

Gottfried Feder, The Rejuvenated Germany and the Jewish Question, 1933
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german original:

„Der politische Jude in Deutschland arbeitet immer instinktiv auf Kompromiß hin, er hat kein Ziel jenseits des Kompromisses, schroffe Entscheidung ist ihm wider die Natur, mit einer Ausnahme freilich, nämlich wenn es sich um Revolution handelt.“

Gottfried Feder, Das neue Deutschland und die Judenfrage: des Diskussionsbuches erster Teil, Rüdiger-Verlag, 1933

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>workers of *the world* unite.
was their battlecry.

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>>536311371
communists dont want us to be all equally wealthy though but equally poor. the dont want (& cant) elevate the nigger to our lofty heights, thus we have to be pulled down to his level in the name of altruism.

>>536311371
Wealth redistribution is Capitalist propaganda. Communism is not about handing out money. Communism aims for full employment with the workers owning the means of production and gaining wealth from their labour. Communists think that Africa was exploited by Imperialists and Africans should be free to stay in Africa and prosper free from exploitation. Capitalists think that Africans, Indians etc should be brought to the West so that they can be exploited for their labour. Blacks are only in America today because Capitalists shipped them there as slaves to exploit. Capitalism is the most anti White ideology ever know to man.

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>>536311371
here, take this
>>536315196
have some learning

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>>536318248
Peter Hitchens is a retard. He was never a "revolutionary Marxist" in his life. Mass immigration is a Capitalist policy and Karl Marx was against it. His son Dan, looks like an Iranian so God knows what sort of race mixing Peter has been up to. Or maybe he's just a cuck of some sort? Wouldn't surprise me one bit from "Conservative".

>>536311371
Yeah, the whole equality claim is one of the great lies that will be the death of civilization. Different reasons but when you see the blacks and Pajeets in action you get why Africa and India are total shitholes.

>>536311371
> I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality.

-t. Abraham Lincoln, 18 September 1858

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>>536318611
hes a jew you fucking retard. for jews there are only jews & non-jews. every non-jews must be a slave to them, they dont make a distinction between different goy tribes, ofc communism is anti-nationalist & anti-racist. the jews as a small elite want to rule over a flat goy society without any vertical socio-economic mobility.

>muh marx was actually against migration
lol, ofc any jew has still to play by the rules of the society & not reveal his endgame outright, the first revolutionaries in france & russia were lured into the movement with promises of better pay & improved working conditions, they had no idea the leftists movement would escalate to how it is today, france introduced equal voting rights for women only in the middle of the 20th century. little by little the jew has to ease the goy into accepting his plans. if the jew seeks to hijack an opposing movement he would ofc larp as a based nationalist & anti-muslim or whatever to later when he gained enough control to drop the masquerade.

“Jewry's greatest heads see the pending fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecy about the great devouring of nations. Among this great herd of denationalized colonial territories, one independent state could bring about the ruin of the whole structure at the last hour. A Bolshevik world cannot exist unless it encompasses everything. If only one state preserves its national strength and greatness, the Jewish satrapy world empire, like every other tyranny in the world, would have to succumb to the force of the nationalist idea. [...] Just as a hyena won't leave its carrion, so a Marxist won't give up treason.”

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Dalton Translation

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>>536319510
german original:

„Schon glauben die größten Köpfe der Judenheit die Erfüllung ihres testamentarischen Wahlspruches des großen Völkerfraßes herannahen zu sehen. Innerhalb dieser großen Herde entnationalisierter Kolonialgebiete könnte ein einziger unabhängiger Staat das ganze Werk in letzter Stunde noch zu Fall bringen. Denn eine bolschewisierte Welt vermag nur zu bestehen, wenn sie alles umfaßt. Bleibt auch nur ein Staat in seiner nationalen Kraft und Größe erhalten, wird und muß das jüdische Weltsatrapenreich, wie jede Tyrannei auf dieser Welt, der Kraft des nationalen Gedankens erliegen. [...] So wenig eine Hyäne vom Aase läßt, so wenig ein Marxist vom Vaterlandsverrat.“

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

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>>536319446
Uh huh, and then he gave them greater rights and protections than the White Man. The end.

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>>536318611
>so God knows what sort of race mixing Peter has been up to.
just the usual jewish basdardation.

>>536319574
Secession was never a legal right of the states please kys fucking retard

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>>536311489
Except you're lying. The purpose of a system or an organisation is what it does, and commies always push sexual deviancy, nigger worship, mass invasion of the West by darkies, and the destruction of the family. Seriously, you almost made me mad with that lie. Holy shit you're a brazen fucking cunt, ain't ya?

Before you accuse me of being a capitalist stooge and point out that globalists do the same damned things- yes I know, which is why I'm a National Socialist.

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>>536318611
>Mass immigration is a Capitalist policy and Karl Marx was against it.
both are bad, national socialism is the real deal. classic divide et impera tactic, the shills again try to push pol into the capitalist, conservative corner & make us fight *those leftists* forever, instead of aiming for a unified solution, just like hitler convinced the (rightfully) angry disenfranchised workers *not* to slaughter their middle- & upper-class brethren in a bloody revolution like in russia, but to unite as a nation against the bank-jew.
>the libs are seething omg so fulfilling shadenfreude.

>>536311371
You could interpret it sanely too, meaning:
>"We should all be treated as equals in a court of law, and we should all try to respect and honor one another, but you still have to earn your own way. No free hand-outs."
Regardless of any interpretation, it's very clear we are all different from one-another, and it's clear we should all support our own kind while leaving each-other as races and culture alone.
It could be that simple too. Distance and figuratively keeping in your own lane would make the world a better place, if everyone agreed to do just that.

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>>536319778
Yep, commies would have us slaughter our racial brethren, and embrace racial aliens who we have literally nothing in common with, in the name of some made up class solidarity. Ignore bonds of blood and kinship for the sake of a modernist political classification with no actual reality behind it, just because a fucking loser, wastrel Jew wrote a really bad fucking book about it once.

I have no words for those absolute retards.

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>>536314467
>as even Marx said, ironically.
why ironically, the jews create the problem, make nations poor & the simple man miserable through usury & then offer the solution, marx is merely larping as the based *'good' jew offering a way out of evil capitalism, that being communism, the end goal of this whole theatre, the easily impressionable masses cant help themselves but to flock to the even worse system out of sheer desperation. its the classic good-jew bad-jew routine, similar to how the police interrogates suspects.

>>536311371
Wealth is evil, it creates hierarchy, which creates coercion to preserve said wealth; race, ethnicity, etc. eventually becomes subordinate towards that goal of the accumulation of money.

Liberty and equality should come from labor and work, to each according to their ability, to each according to their contribution; humans are universalist creatures by nature are capable of doing a multitude of tasks through education, training, and learning.

The idea of the ‘distribution of wealth’ isn’t to literally open up everyone’s bank accounts and to throw it out all over the place, it is to take collective ownership of production and distribution, it is to make sure that every laborer, worker, tradesmen etc have representation in what they contribute and have the means to sustain themselves. The idea is to uplift the masses and to create a baseline to prevent the decay and degeneration of the class that actually maintains and produces for our civilization and the nations that jointly inhabit it.

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>>536319956
>who we have literally nothing in common with
its fetishising manual labour, because the german worker uses hammer & sickle in his profession he shall be friends with the chinese bluecollar, or the african, for he uses the same tools wow! like work equals identity, just how the jews want us, workaholics, bonding over business, no cultur, no regional peculiarities in language, no racial identity, just labour. consider how normies talk about migrants "they are industrious, pay taxes a contribute to the economy" for the average retard nations are literally nothing but soulless economic zones.

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, made a speech to followers in which he compared non-Jews to donkeys, and said that they were put on earth only to serve Jews.Yosef said, ‘Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.” He continued saying, ‘Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an eendi and eat.’ He added, “With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

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>>536320286
from the protocols btw.

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>>536320239
>to each according to their contribution
>Wealth is evil, it creates hierarchy
pick one.
same folly the french fell for
>Liberté, égalité, fraternité
>'liberty, equality, fraternity'
you literally cant be free when you are equal to everyone else & not equal when you want to rise above the crowd.

> ‘distribution of wealth’ isn’t to literally open up everyone’s bank accounts and to throw it out all over the place
it literally is & has always been interpreted this way.
>real communism was never tried!
you seem to be another american or anglo retard incapable of grasping the concept of völkish solidarity since your nations are focused on private enterprise above all. ns had it right & it was glorious & it will be like that again. love for your own people before everything else. thats true socialism. consider thatcher quote, what she says is antithetical to the german ideal, & thats why they ganged up on us in 2 world wars.
>how do we make a nation of selfish people work & force them to cooperate?

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>>536320239
heres your social measures in national socialism, support young families so grandpa doesnt have to beaten up by imported cheap gorilla niggers in the eldery home.

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>>536320681
this could have been a white nurse.

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>>536320681
>so you really want to be a mother, go for it young german girl, we will support you because you are building the nations future!
being a motehr is nothing to be ashamed of like in feminism but was a respected & worthwhile life mission in natsoc germany.

Hitler speaks about the role of women on the 11 September 1936 in Nuremberg (excerpt):

'I was often accused: "You want to remove women from all professions!" On the whole, I will provide her only the opportunity of being able to marry to assist her to form an own family and to bring forth offspring, because she would then, and that is my conviction, benefit our people the most, of course. For that is certain. You need to understand my stance on the following: If I have a female before me nowadays and it matters not how much she has achieved in her career, and next to her is a mother of five, six, seven children who were brought up by her to be in good health and well-behaved, then i want to proclaim: Seen from the eternal persepective of the eternal value of our people, the woman who is able to bear children and has born children and raised them and thereby gifted our people the chance to persevere into the future - has achieved more. She has done more. She assists us in avoiding the decline of our people.'

Source (german):
https://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Quelle_/_Rede_vom_11._September_1936_(Adolf_Hitler)

Audio recording with english subtitles:
https://archive.org/details/AdolfHitlersSpeechOnWomen

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>>536320829
Hitler spricht über die Frau am 11. September 1936 auf dem Reichsparteitag in Nürnberg (Auszug):

'Man sagt mir oft: Sie wollen die Frau aus allen Berufen drücken. Ich will ihr nur die Möglichkeit im weitesten Ausmaß verschaffen, heiraten zu können, und eine eigene Familie migründen helfen zu können und Kinder bekommen zu können, weil sie dann, und das ist nun meine Überzeugung, unserem Volk natürlich am allermeisten nützt.

Denn das ist klar, und das müssen Sie von mir verstehen:
Wenn ich heute einen weiblichen Juristen vor mir habe, und er kann noch so viel leisten, und nebenan eine Mutter mit fünf, sechs, sieben Kindern, und die sind ganz gesund, und sind von ihr gut erzogen, dann möchte ich sagen, vom ewigen Standpunkt des ewigen Wertes unseres Volkes aus, hat die Frau, die Kinder bekommen kann, und die sie nun bekommen hat, und die sie nun erzogen hat und die unserem Volk damit das Leben in die Zukunft geschenkt hat wieder, hat mehr geleistet. Sie hat mehr getan! Sie hilft mit, den Tod unseres Volkes zu vermeiden.'

Quelle:
https://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Quelle_/_Rede_vom_11._September_1936_(Adolf_Hitler)

Tonaufnahme mit englishen Untertiteln untenstehend:
https://archive.org/details/AdolfHitlersSpeechOnWomen

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>>536320239
>it is to take collective ownership of production and distribution,
nigger, public toilets for isntance are 'shared'. one of the states main task is to protect private property.
>humans are universalist creatures by nature
lol literally wrong, no man wants to be equal to another, there is no exception to the rule that everyone thinks to be an exception to the rule. fucking jew selling the only race capable of coopertaion the idea of mankind, if anyone truly comes together its whites, but even there there must be healthy competition.

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>>536320239
Nature creates hierarchy, and wealth is just the result of labour. Now, obviously wealth distribution is massively skewed nowadays, but a commie saying "wealth is evil" doesn't want to give that wealth back to its creators- its evil, after all! No, he wants to "manage" it himself, lol

And to each according to his contribution? That's just fair wages, you absolute fucking retard, and Communism CLEARLY states "to each according to his NEEDS", which is a completely opposite proposition.

Everything about your worldview is self-contradictory and retarded. National Socialism is the only way forwards. Racial solidarity, free enterprise constrained by the demands of and in service of the People, by blood and heritage, help and compassion for your People, cordiality and fairness to your friends, hatred and steel for your enemies. It's not complicated, it doesn't require new groundbreaking theories, its how we're designed to live, its how healthy societies have always lived. It tells you to be as free as you can be, without infringing on the rights and freedoms of your brethren and kin. That includes imposing harmful externalities on the common weal, so it covers globalist and jewish machinations- importing foreign labour to undercut the wages of your kinsmen is absolute anathema in this framework, and calls for the death penalty.

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>>536319787
>Distance and figuratively keeping in your own lane would make the world a better place, if everyone agreed to do just that.
in germany we have a saying that roughly translates to "if everyone cares for oneself, then everyones cared for" (Wenn jeder an sich denkt, ist an alle gedacht.).