>Russia makes own civilian planes now with domestically made engines and avionicswhy didn't sanctions work on Russia?
>>536313531>why didn't sanctions work on RussiaIt's because when you have to get tough you do it. If you had no food you'd grow your own. Necessity pushes men forward.
Why'd it take this long? I thought you guys have an aviation industry already.
>>536313531>crashes>product discontinuedWell, nice try, dumbski. As soon as you do a gaddafi on little Shlomova Vladimir, we'll consider selling ya an American machine that actually works.Thank you for your attention to this matter, stinky.
>>536313531This is the first unit after 4 years?Whatever, curious if it's going to be flight-safe or notIf it works, you might have made it to Brazil's Embraer level
>>536313531Holy fuck, Not for 10000000€ i would set a foot in this metal coffin
>>536313700Yeah. It was supposed to be flight ready couple years ago and full blown serial production now with roughly weekly deliveries to airlines.
so when can i visit? :)
>>536313531Russia also makes their own civilian cars. Yet, no sane person that cares about safety drives them.
When are you going to fly it?
>>536313531You can't take something away from white people that they created
>>536313700>EmbraerEngines made by US, UK and Canada, avionics made by US.They can't produce them without these countries.
Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has warned President Vladimir Putin that the cost of the war in Ukraine is unsustainable, recommending the freezing of approximately 2.9 trillion rubles ($40.8 billion) in planned non-defense spending for 2026 to avert a critical budget deficit.
>>536313768this plane was designed to use US made engines and avionics so because of sanctions Russia was forced to design our own
>>536313658boeing also outsources its engines and avionics to other countries, without them you can't make the planes.Even the hull itself is made out of carbon fiber from japan.Boeing also had a massive contructor buro in Moscow before 2022 that they had to close, many designers and constructors went to work in Russian industry instead.
>>536314076Yes, I know and I was talking about all Russian version. That is supposed to be in full rate serial production by now and was supposed be in revenue service over year by now. You don't even know source of original parts.
>>536313531That plane is a Arminian scam and everybody knows it...
>>536313658Supply chains for something as complex as an airplane involve thousands of components from hundreds of companies and dozens of countries. This isn't new at all. Retooling your supply chain to cut out European companies that are really good at high tech components like that takes time, although they have China as a neighbour and technology sharing both ways.The biggest issue Chinese tech companies face when it comes to building their own silicon EUV lithography machines, for example, is domestically recreating Zeiss optical equipment.
>>536313531It would be pretty sad if Russia couldn't make their own airplanes.Fucking Sweden mass produce fighter jets.
>>536313748If it is as bad as their ships, I fully understand.But then, is it really likely to be that much worse than the new-ish DEI creations of "the west"
Would you fly in an aircraft made by low iq subhumans drunk on vodka? No thanks. Inb4 over 9000 crashes in the first week.
>>536314186>>536314902I get that, but how was the military getting the materials for planes? Was that also outsourced in Russia as it was here?
>>536313531>Russia makes own civilian planes nowThey've been making those for decades.. and they fucking suck and are dangerous as fuck, at this point I'd probably honestly pick Chinese aircraft over Russian
>>536313531>why didn't sanctions work on Russia?>Moscow and the Moscow region have begun restricting the sale of gasoline to individual customers.>The first such notice appeared at an ORTK gas station in Troitsk.There are no general restrictions at other gas stations in the capital and surrounding region, but limits may be imposed at individual stations. For example, at Rosneft and Tatneft, according to local media.
>>536315155Military aviation was always using domestic components for national security reasons, while civilian aviation companies were free to import parts that were better/cheaper/not cost effective to make domestically.
>>536315155military jets and civilian planes use diffirent parts including engines.
Airbus and Boeing shaking in their boots, Russia has produced a single 737/A320 knockoff
>>536313531Because its retarded. Russia has a ton of resources and wasnt even included in global economy. You could see no familiar products in russian store. Sanctioning makes sense for nations without resources with heavily imported goods.
>>536315395Russia is planning to help Chyna to design their own domestic engines for planes and then bye bye sales.
>>536315525>Saudi Arabia isn't important for the global economy, I never saw Saudi products at the supermarket More bangers from the top minds of /pol/.Although once I did see one of those Russian chocolates made of blood. It tasted like sweetened sand.
>>536313531>ACKSHUALLY RUSSIA ISN'T AS BAD AS THE WEST SAYS THREAD #39487438It is. It is as bad as they say. Would you really want to fly a plane designed by a country that values no human life?
>>536315689At this rate you lads will be relying on Jeet labor like we are, but out of necessity rather than just having elites who are cheap.
>>536315395They will even be able to get it to fly after the first few crashes.
>>536313531It’s also run on vodka. Shoutout to Epstenites in Hormuz. Russian 1 - WECT nil.
>>536315884In russian store pre sanctions all you saw were russian products you stupid greek nigger. It was literally one of more self sufficient countries.
>>536317424I thought you meant it the other way, that you don't see Russian products in foreign markets because they don't export. Misunderstanding then.
>>536313531Sanctions don't work when the country is question is more or less self-sufficient, and/or has vital resources that the rest of the world needs badly enough that they're going to ignore the sanctions and trade with them anyways.
>>536313531>using parts smuggled in cia CIS countries / chinkland and chips made by US companies>domesticbahahahahaha the only domestic thing about it is little vlad assembling those parts in some soviet factory outside MoscowTZD
The EU is preparing round 21 of sanctions, just wait
>>536313531Because you all natural resources and the people to built it why buy Western piece of crap the moment you can sanctions you can buy or repair your own planes you bought and paid for
>>536313531Good luck to all the chumps getting on that flying coffin. They will need it.
>>536313531banning swift from Russia will collapse russia !!!!
>>536313531I had read they converted the commercial plane factory to make fighter planes.
>>536313658Eat shit troon shill.2014 sanctions killed thier engine imports so they had to invent thier own.
>>536313790I couldn’t stand that accent for another 25 years pls relieve me>t. Has a ziggress mom
>>536314186Only the wings are cabon fiber retard
>>536315948>value human lifeThey saved the US astronauts stranded in space. Retard faggot
>>536313531Armata arc incoming lmao
>>536317424Pre 2014 everything was imported from Europe
>>536313531>1985 Achieved>Why didn't sanctions work?
>>536318634>carbon fiber composite materials make up about half of the structural weight of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. This includes the fuselage (main body) and wings.kys
>>536313531>nowthat's what the sanctions were for, it meant four years of you not doing that, no? With all the associated impact on the warcountries adapt to autarky, they always do when they have to, but having to do that is usually more expensive compared to just buying a plane from elsewhere. You can't truly prevent something from ever happening through trade sanctions unless the resources needed don't exist in the country in the first place.
>>536320676Thats just cope.Sanctions have not been successful even a single time. Not one regime change has been achieved through them, not one nation collapsed. Its just an old hogwash theory from the fifties that retards cling to out of pure habit.
>>536320957>Sanctions have not been successful even a single time.Russian aircraft industry didn't deliver a single airliner capable for commerical operations since 2022.
>>536313790Sure, but you'll have to fly yourself
>>536320957Surely that's the truth and that's why Russia always says that any peace deal must include the stop of sanctions because it makes Russia stronger or some copes like that.Lmao
>>536320197Fuck off retard>AeroComposite a subsidiary of UAC developed and produced an all carbon fibre wing for the MC-21. The fuselage of the MC-21 is mostly made of lightweight aluminium–lithium alloy, which accounts for 40% of the airframe's structural weight
>>536321728>MC-21?
>>536313531Yeah sure, Russia is not struggling at all. You know, we (ebil west) are so comfortable we can continue the status quo forever. If Russia collapses: fine, if it doesn’t: whatever, keep dying in the trenches. The mere fact you’re out there trying to prove you’re fine implies to me we should wait it out another year or 2. Go get them tiger: gl;hf!
>>536321834Wikipedia source but I read the same thing somewhere else a few years ago
>>536313531Yeah I’m sure those Armatas are rolling right off the conveyor belt lmao
>>536321954read again>>536314186 the post you replied to.
>>536313531Why are you gloating about mass murdering ukrainians who are supposedly your people but also "hohols" whatever the fuck that means?
>>536322084How would you feel if your brother stopped having contact with you because you would create very bad influence on him and he wanted to get away from you?Their answer was a temper tantrum destroying everything they could just so they would be pushed down to their level once again.>If I can't have it then no one can
>>536322781The answer is: They attacked because the big guy said so, and only after the fact the needed justifications arrive. Utter slave mentality
