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"Winning Ukraine":

- spends 43%-57% GDP on army
- goes bankrupt in days without foreign aid
- population goes down from 41 mln (2022) to 22 mln (2026)
- must mass-abduct people on streets to meet draft quotas
- believes that mosquito FP-1/2 drone strikes against civilian infrastructure (fixed fast) can put Russia down on knees
- claims 10:1 kill ratio against Russia in propaganda but gets 20 dead hohols for 1 dead Russian during meat exchanges
- "losses" 200 bln dollar of aid (Zelensky "doesnt know" where the money disappeared)
- begs for money/weapon/ammo daily

"Losing Russia":

- keeps population on stable 146 mln throughout entire war
- spends sustainable peace-time 7% GDP on army
- fields only 400k troops in the special operation vs 1 mln hohols and still gradually/steadily takes the land
- finds itself under 20k Western sanctions
- cut off from trade with the West
- cut off from SWIFT
- takes no aid from nobody
- calmly and patiently trashes/depopulates Ukraine in smart new-gen attrition warfare

NAFO is going to shit itself up in this thread.

Bolanda is next, by the way xD
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>>536327828
The jews want to kill off the rival jewish nation. this all planned. They provoked russia and they got what they wanted.
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>>536327828
OK MAYBE SO BUT RUSSIA ISN'T WINNING AS FAST AS I THINK IT SHOULD SO THEY'RE LOSING :)
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>mearsheimer
>geopolitical expert
For me, it was when he said that putin was too smart to invade ukraine in 2022 and to do so would be retarded
I guess he may have been half right there lol
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>>536327828
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>>536327828
>noooooo you cannot have allies. That's not fair.
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>>536327828
based bolanda poster
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Looks like someone forgot to check the "no diplomacy" setting before starting the war.
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Mearsheimer got completely discredited after the soviet union fell and it broke his brain. A living legend lolcow to any serious political theorist.
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>>536327828
Based shill-destroying pole single-handedly countering siscord and trannygram raids
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>>536327828
Reminder these ukranian shill retards are spead all over europe now and the spam will never end. You've created a monster just like the taliban.
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>>536328647
Mearsheimer is a lolcow? He makes more sense than you soiboi cucks though, guess your cucked world is more doomed than I thought.
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>>536327828
go back to CHUG rusnigger
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>>536327828
Anyone noticed the lack of interest in this topic lately?
Feels like people stopped giving a fuck or they stopped being paid to give a fuck.
One year ago people would still flock to a thread like this to express their opinions and support for one side or another. Now it feels like even Russians and Ukrainians stopped paying any attention to the conflict.
Not bumping because this thread deserves to die in abject poverty, just like Ukraine.
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>>536328002
Still trying to win a war against the most corrupt third world shit hole on the continent, which happens to be in their own backyard after half a decade is beyond humiliating for a major nuclear power
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>>536330020
What do you think of our military getting defeated in a month by third world sandniggers?
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>>536330570
Also humiliating, but for different reasons
Ours is a humiliation due to lack of will to do what is necessary to win
Russia's humiliation is due to a lack of ability to win
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>>536327828
Why didn't you move there already, commie?
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>>536327828
Well yeah. The best part of this war is two nations of subhumans killing each other.
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>>536330570
It was expected. Niggerfaggotkikes can't win against Aryans.
Your loss was caused by lack of self awareness.
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> Ukraine is winning!
> Noo, Russia is winning!

Absolute brainlets, both of you. The frontline has barely moved in the last 3 years. There is a word for this situation: stalemate. No side is winning or losing for now. We will see how the situation changes in the future.
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>>536327828
I fucking KNEW it was you, you seething russoid faggot. You lost, russoids lost and got killed and raped, KEK xD
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>>536331247
The game plan is simple. Let it simmer with EU gibs (that were meant to rebuild EU armies) until Trump leaves office then re-amp it.
If Russia loses, we'll bank on Ukraine's win.
If Ukraine loses, nothing of value is lost.
No bump because this thread needs to die in abject poverty, just like Ukraine.
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>>536331247
The point is to kill the most White men, not to end this circus.
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Are these the new belter containment threads kek
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>>536327828
No one is winning the Ukraine war, except arms manufacturers.
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>>536330767
What more could the US do in Iran?

>inb4 large-scale ground offensive
Doubtful it would work. Every day there would be multiple Dharan barracks incidents. And, of course, Iran still has its enriched uranium.

By the way, Russia is spending about 7.5% of GDP on the military, up from about 4% of GDP before the war. In theory, Russia could spend more.
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>>536329172
>you soiboi cucks [buzzword] [buzzword] [buzzword]
Very organic, Mr. John Hamburger from Kentucky Oblast.
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>>536329526
Anti-Russia anons don't stay in their containment thread, so why would pro-Russia anons do
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>>536331895

>What more could the US do in Iran?

Do to every Iranian city what Russians did to Mariupol. Russians would do it to Kyiv or other Ukrainian cities if they could, but they can't due to good air defense not allowing their bombers inside Ukraine. USA bombers were flying freely over Iran, the lack of carpet bombing was a political limitation.
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>>536332286
for that USA needs to surround iranian cities (ground operation) and then shell them with artillery

usa would need to position 500-800k soldiers in turkey and sa, then advance into iraq and organize logistics from there

to use bombs without strategic aviation usa needs bases close to iranian border (in reach of iranian missiles), they will need to take all air defence from all their bases just to cover that in hostile sandnigger territory

where will they get soldiers for the ground operation? how much loses will they tolerate? iran is much stronger than korea or vietnam

iran destroyed most bases close to its border so usa used strategic aviation for bomibing which is inefficient

thats the main difference
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>>536330020
>they're fighting JUST oinkraine and ONLY oinkraine
>"proxy war"?????? What are those????
*yawn*
Same old cope
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>>536330767
it's lack of capability first and foremost. no industry, no longer a base of willing manpower, complete lack of psychological preparedness for the realities of fighting a nation capable of shooting back. america just can't fight wars any more, at least not serious wars, the kind where you need to make large scale investments of ground forces to seize and hold territory
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>>536332286
nigmerican bombers were not flying freely over iran. strategic aviation was using stand-off weapons like the JASSM
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>>536332286
Even if every structure in Iran was leveled to the ground, that would not help the US win the war, because the IRGC stores all its high-value weaponry in tunnels.

>the lack of carpet bombing was a political limitation.
To be more specific, the "political limitation" is the fact that Iran has means to retaliate

>USA bombers were flying freely over Iran
US aircraft were not flying as freely as they want people to think. The US was firing cruise missiles until the very end of the war.
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>>536327828
Ukraine never received the 200 billion. The 200 billion is just one of the many lies of Trump. Do you actually believe Trump? kek
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>>536327828
You lost russany
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>>536331906
Very organic [buzzword] [buzzword]
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>>536331342
You sound like a spastic feminine jew, gas yourself kike
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>>536334341
>snaps oinkraine in half and keeps it while fighting the most advanced weapons systems on earth
>"losing"
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>>536334171
Ok faggot
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>>536334171
do i believe retarded ukrainian thieves stole all the money? yes
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>>536333498
>Losing a proxy war against the EU
That's actually even more embarrassing
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>>536334499
kill yourself you little niggerfaggot kike, the russia lost and got raped and gaped.
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>>536335375
>losing
might we see this losing?
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>>536335375
Wow, June 2026 and we're still trying to b8 post like it's not the Jewnited states of Brazindia's proxy war, dang, I'm speechless. Do you really think playing dumb this aggressively is a good look? That what the focus group data says? How many people in your NAFO discord have roped in the past 6 months?
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>>536327828
>ukraine would lose if not for the things it does that makes it win
>i would be rich if i was not poor

Poles really are niggers hatians were on to something
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>>536327828
Westerner elite and glowniggers would fight to the last European against their Russia boogeyman if they could get away with it. Once Ukraine is depleted, Poland, Baltics, and Finland will be thrown into the slaughter. After that, Germans, French, and Anglos. They have an endless pool of Indians and other developing worlders to replenish their labor force with after all.
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>>536335872
they are losing thoughbeit
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>>536328002
Just 5 more years
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>>536336301
To what? Snap that bitch ass fake rump state in half again and keep it again? I mean, that's not the goal but I'll take it lol
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but he's right though. if the war ended tomorrow and ukraine got all its land back. both countries would still be fucked for a very long time. neither country has money left to fix anything. they're burning up on debt that they will never be able to repay
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>>536327828
Why is shilling like this necessary if Russia is winning its three-day special military operation in such an overwhelming manner? Really gets the noggin joggin'.
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>>536336948
Now apply this same logic to gore-spam
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>>536327828
In this debate, Nuland embodies the schizophrenic nature of the US foreign policy. Mr. Hyde is fighting for the international rule of law in Europe, and Dr. Jekyll is fighting against it in the middle east. Putin is a wanted war criminal, but so is Netanyahu. This is ironic because Mearsheimer's worldview (geopolitical realism) is basically built on a theory invented by a literal paranoid schizo (John Nash). However, the szicho did contribute to the development of MAD, which prevented total nuclear annihilation. So that's good, I guess. But Nuland tier szhizos are just mad and seem to pushing towards total nuclear annihilation, while they hide in their bunkers in Argentina or New Zealand.

We're in a weird place right now. We're somewhere between world war three and cold war two, because we're fighting both Russia and China though proxy wars, and there aren't very many people that seem to clearly recognize that. At least Mearsheimer's view will get you to see the great game, and not put you in a silo where you are blind to everything outside of your subject in a sterile and artificial way. Some people have to deal in the real world.
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>>536327828
Ukraine is a textbook case of severe Talmudic infection. With 50 million people, Soviet-era industrialization and closeness to Germany it should've turned into an economic powerhouse by now. Instead it has turned into a fourth world country run by a pedophile human trafficker that kidnaps men on the street to fuel yet another endless war.
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>>536328032
Post Japanese rice cooker with timestamp.
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Amount of shill stuff directly corresponds to how poorly Russia is doing, though I shouldn't give you hints.



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