not enough migrants
The Chinese car is actually scanning the road surface with a.i. and pre-empt the bumps by adjusting the magnetic levitationm.That's where its smoothness comes from.The european claim that "muh bose already invented this 30 years ago" is untrue.
>>536372125Chinks are just copying German engineering as usual and thirdies believe Chinks engineers invented it
>>536373759Germany has never implemented magnetic levitation shock absorbers in cars.You're on copium.
>>536372125Same thing that happened to their now irrelevant countries.
>>536372125Yay, even more unnecessary shit that will break and can't be self repaired.
>>536373759the german car industry is dying, and their government killed it.
>>536373879>unnecessary shit that will breakActually it will break less, because the bolts and joints in the car will have significantly less physical strain.Go back to highschool physics, dropout.
>>536372125>What happened to famous European car engineering?
>>536373759This, they should try fix their scalators
>only 59.99 a month for shock absorption
>>536374063BMW would 100% do this.
>>536374063Chinese companies don't play that game. For example Tesla charges $100/month for self driving while BYD includes it in the price of the vehicle.
>>536372125chinks cars biggest competitor is other chink brands though.and i don't think cheapness is always a selling point if it means cutting materials or safety features.
>>536372125Ah so! The chink-a-roooo have discover-a-roooo acient Japanese suspension tech-a-roooo!https://youtu.be/6dCbWfBT7XM
>>536372125Chink cars are not even 1% better they are infamous for breaking, poor quality design, horrific part quality, no quality control during production.
Every single cartard wants "sport" suspension.
>>536375299ok boomer 2014 wants you backin 2026 Chinese engineering is higher quality than w*stern
>>536373759So we can expect every kind of engine light and nagging for a service every 200 miles?
>>536375342Lol no it absolutely is not. There is a reason why chinese themselves prefer foreign cars and the entire Chinese govt has to dump money into china car sector to keep it from collapsing.
>>536372125Kill yourself
>>536375401>Chinese prefer foreign carsIs that why sales of foreign cars are collapsing there for the past 5 years? Literally anyone who knows will tell you how much higher quality BYD is compared to Tesla
>>536375401Chinese used to prefer foreign cars because they were status symbols. Not any more.
>>536375401why did Toyota, the biggest car company in the world, beg China to help them build better electric cars?
>>536372125stolen techhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPYIaks1UY
>>536373973I wonder if they would get mad if you asked for a new badge with a normal name on it?
>>536373759If that's true then shouldn't German cars be just as smooth of a ride?
>>536375654Not just Toyota.
>>536375741
>>536375654Because the Japanese literally can’t build evs. They thought they can just build ice and hybrids and be fine but now they are waking up way too late
>>536372125jews and their CO2 hoax religion.Namely Larry Fink and his Green New Deal.
>>536375570Its not collapsing at all, chinese car market in general has slowed demand.>>536375573They prefer them because chinese domestic cars are objective death boxes financed by the government to keep them working>>536375654They are not though? And Toyota makes reliable vehicles for DECADES are you chinese on VPN glownigger?
>>536372125Isn't that type of suspension bad for driving roads with curves? Like losing traction?
>>536375654>AI"Hey CIA, could you tell me the route to the closest drug dealer.">Smart DrivingFatal crash caused by a glitch will negate any legal claims.>Softwarelol...lmao
>>536372125What a contrived gif. Also, what do you think these cars will look like after 30 years?
>>536375654No one wants this shit in the first place, its all fake and gay bullshit pushed by kikes to demobilize the pleb with high costs for inidivdual mobility
Aren't cars supposed to be stopped by speedbumps, retards?All this chink technology will do is make sure when they run over their own children they won't feel anything
>>536375980Correct but china is a nightmare when it comes to WEF policy. Majority are single living home in government owned apartments that are on average 25-35m2 with 0 control of their life. Just look at kids that came from china during covid lock downs this is the kind of world they want us all to live in
>>536375800Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda stepped down over EVs but it turns out he was correct. The demand for EVs has fallen and what customers really want now are hybrids which Toyota pioneered. Ford even discontinued the Lightning so they could replace it with a hybrid/EREV with what they learned from reverse-engineering that BYD.
>>536376055Yeah, watch this for a lookout of their planned futurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8LTUmHWP0
>>536375926>chinese domestic cars are objective death boxesThey pass European crash safety tests just fine.
>>536372125>1PBTID OP >memeflag Wumao bot thread. Sage and hide
>>536375696.
>>536376020Most Chinese cars have such poor part quality you will be lucky to get 1000km before something breaks and needs to be replaced, but because part quality is so bad youre going to be waiting awhile. In some cars chinese also have actual malware installed in the electronic that sends them 100% all your data. In Chinese EVs the steering column is infamous for being so weak a grown man can simply pull it out of the vehicle and they have built in trackers that will scream at you for going too fast etc. Nevermind built in kill switch for police
>>536376102The issue is fucking real but i hope for the resilience and hugeness of the US to make mandatory EV bullshit fail
>>536376070hybritard copecarrying both electric and ICE motors around isn’t efficient. choose one
>>536376094They do not. There was even review of these cars showing you how dangerous they are as quality is so bad suspension can break at any time, steering columns are prone to being pulled out just from turning sharp, brakes are terribly designed and use insanely poor quality manufacturing they can simply shatter from a hard brake. If the govt has to dump money into china car market domestically AND exports you know its trash
>>536376020The child is already ran over there's no point in spilling my coffee too.
>>536373804> magic levitationDo you have an AI-generated video of that, too?
>>536372125Century turned germans became retards again.
>>536376152Hybrids make a huge amount of sense for the favorite vehicle type in my country: pickup trucks. Why waste gas in my truck when I'm just going to the grocery store? It makes more sense to do all the daily driving bullshit on electric and have the V8 kick in only when the range or power is actually needed.
>>536372125the jews do that on purpose for goyim cars. make the ride less comfortable and thus less of an utility. vibrations actually damaging to health.
>>536372125I don't think I want a car that completely detaches me from the road. But have fun.
>>536376173You fucking retard yes they do. It's required by YOUR law which is why "unsafe" vehicles like the Cybertruck can't be sold over there. I don't care about some propaganda piece you saw 10+ years ago the crash test results today are legit and public.>If the govt has to dump money into china car marketEvery government subsidizes their domestic auto industry retard.
>>536375800>way too lateFor what you brainwashed retard? Losing another few billion dollars making EVs nobody wants?
>>536372125>What happened to famous European car engineering?jews.
>>536376530> Losing another few billion dollars making EVs nobody wants?>>536375800> waking up way too late> GermanThis country's economy is literally dying because our core economic branch overexposed itself to climate derangement lunacy too soon and too intensely, everything is dying from the automobile sector to the machine-building sector, irrevocably, and yet, here you are talking shit.
>>536377193It’s dying because of retards like you and boomer fucks not willing to believe the world they grew up in has changed. Neck yourself so we can be better and not turn into a shithole like America
>>536377709>has changedWas changed by kikesSo the solution is to remove kikes instead of removing our good cars
>>536377709Ah the valuable opinions of a Zoomer faggot that lives with his mom.
>>536377824Day of the pillow soon boomer
>>536375401>There is a reason why chinese themselves prefer foreign carsProblem with peoples perception of China is that China moves ahead to fast to people to adjust. What you are saying was true 10 years ago but now it flipped around. Germans brands cry blood tears they are losing their last big market (China) to Chinese brands.https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vc47Pn90wao
>>536377996VW is the number two brand (yearly) and sometimes number one (for certain months) in china
>>536372125>Did you know that semi sports cars have stiffer suspension so they can corner tighterNo way, who could've guessed?
>>536378076>VW is the number two brand (yearly) and sometimes number one (for certain months) in chinaAnd they are bleeding sales.
>>536376173That *used* to be the case - a decade ago. The Chinese car brands have actually massively improved their quality consistency at least for the production lines that are destined for export, mainly because of a few scandals here or there in Europe leading to investigations and fines.(Domestic Chinese cars are still a toss-up though.)
>>536372125Nothing left from progress in western World !!!Specially in EU and GB!Average European is oblivious to the fact how much EU fall behind since 2018! Meantime Top EU scientist present empty Truck claiming they transporting Dark Matter from A to B.They probably hope that someone take them seriously!
>>536375401Entire Belarus prefers Chinese cars. They are cheaper and get the job done. The only thing they don't give is le status value for dick measuring.
>>536372125euro car used to mean class now any idiot can get one and europe are gay faggots
>>536377709I'm willing to bet you wanted Habeck as chancellorAs I said, time to go back to your tranny friends on reddit?
>>536372125>What happened to famous European car engineering?neoliberalism
>>536375172I want a Fuxing car.Definitely better than a Fuqi car.
>>536378635Neck yourself so we can be better
>>536372125its what happens when you have a controlled market created and regulated to accommodate a few chosen billionaires and then a new player enters with better prices. its why a chinese luxury van costs $45k in china but the same car costs 80k Euros in this shithole. they don't want you to have a higher standard of living and alternatives to the euro-jewish billionaire cartel
traffic is one of the most common ways to die as a normal person. in fact not owning a car or license INCREASES your life expectancy.considering this i would never buy a chink car. that being said i have bought a 2000 euro motorbike in 2010 and it was top. zero problems in 10 years other than a few dead batteries(these are almost 100 euro each fuck the battery jude). the chinks are really good at doing simple 30 year old tech.the thread is nigger bait ofc. some research car versus some street cars most likely.
>>536378862low powered chink motorbike*
>>536378845you are being fucked over daily by billionaires and you aren't even resisting like the goyslave you are. disgusting
>>536378862>traffic is one of the most common ways to die>considering this i would never buy a chink car>i have bought a 2000 euro motorbikekek
>>536372125chink cars literally explode en masse and turn into hellfire on the weekly
>>536378916>resistingResisting is simply not going along with their EV shit and keep old things running forever and ever.I see a great Cuban future for Europe
>>536378954China, making Alarm für Cobra 11 a reality.
>>536378916>muh billionairesHow about you faggots start fighting against usury instead?
>>536372125The chinks like to hyperfocus on one gimmick at the cost of everything else and parade it around like this one thing makes it vastly better than anything else.Reminds me of that one electric chink car that would eject the car battery in case of fire so people would stop dying in their firebomb EVs. Can't wait to see that malfunction and bifurcate a Chinese toddler on LiveLeak.
>>536378829When are you going to join the 42%?
>>536379028look up what """motorcycle""" means to the avg yurowere talking small go kart kinda shit, most likelylike the faggio from vice city
>>536372125If you think those other cars lack a suspension like that because the companies are incapable of making it you might be retarded.
>>536376173You're about as behind the times as euro car manufacturers.China is going to eat up our market.
>>536373701electronics are a scam, they snitch everything you do to the party. older european cars are the based cars
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>>536379163Indeed, now Xi Jinping knows when you went grocery shopping. America is doomed.
>>536379191lol i hope hes not talking about those, those are kinda sketchy desuhe prolly means one of those dorky sit-down ones. you see em all over yurop and theyre rly cheap
>>536372125> "European cars"> owned by Geely (chinks) and Tata(jeets) these days.Rover, volvo, daimler, lotus, aston martin etc
>>536378623China is also starting to do luxury cars better than luxury cars brands.Euroope has nothing to answer to such.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U8Yeah it's gaudy, tasteless and covered in LEDs. Just like Chinese like it.Automotively there is no other car that can match. American Big SUV, 1200 HP, 3.6 sec acceleration, 180 km electric range PHEV. Every possible and impossible gadget. How europoors can answer to this? They lost.
>>536372125Yeah European cars had this damping feature decades ago and quickly notice that it takes all the road feel, leading to sickness and dangerous driving situations. That 7 series offers much much more comfort than any Chinese car, that is for sure.
>>536372125>chink car just copied citroen and bose designs that are decades old
>>536373701Hello, oblivious retard.Sometimes a device is classified by its purpose. This usually happens when it has a purpose.What you should be asking is why it wasn't adopted.
>>536372125Because white people have decided that blue-collared jobs and shit is non-prestigious and thus not worthy of pursuit. Big Corpos obviously love this, since they can reduce their labor costs and shill their cars for higher prices to modern white-collar-centric society.
How are you gonna repair this by yourself without going to a Chink repair shop? Oh I forgot, Gen Z retards need to call someone to change a lightbulb
>>536376090> 3 year old videoit's amazing that in 3 years we turned from- "ameri-cuh and Tesla-strong" => "Tesla-lol and EVs better"5 years ago: china productc are cringeToday: people shrug at "american quality... not chinese"
>>536379556Blue collar jobs are trash and not prestigious you tradie retard. Knowing how to repair your own stuff is not the same as working as a mechanic while some roastie answers 50 emails per day in a room with AC and makes 80% of your salary or more.
>>536379623>Chinese EV/car qualityYou can't judge their tech and quality with just a few years experience. There's no long time data for reliability and quality of chink EVs.Who knows if they're all start exploding in five years or something. Also privacy related this shit is toxic
>>536379690I'm not a tradesman myself. Point is. How can one expect Europe to have a robust and high-quality engineering industry if there are practically no engineers.
>>536379768We have plenty of doctors and engineers from Africa ;)But it's not a lack of manpower, it's a lack of control. China is doing well because their economy is 100% controlled by the state the capitalists are just puppets Xi decides the direction in which the country goes. In Europe it's a free for all nonsense where the government acts as a hindrance with their environment policies
>>536376152>carrying both electric and ICE motors around isn’t efficientIt's crazy efficient, biofuel engine producing electricity for electric motor is the most sensible solution going forward because it remove the need for huge batteries.And no there will be no amazing breakthrough or any kind of revolutionary solution to battery problem, burnable fuel is simply the best way for storing energy by wide margin the same way water is the best for heat transfer.
>>536376185you re supposed to be slowed down before you run over the child muttard
Also the front grills on both the BMW and Audi look like absolute dogshit
>>536372125yeah, I'm sure this chink made test is totally legit
>>536379907>burnable fuel is simply the best way for storing energyLaughs in Zero Point Energy
>>536379431Luxury isn't about muh numbers, it's about perceived status. Chinese cars in Belarus and Russia gain popularity as workhorses: taxis, company cars, government-issued vehicles, ERs etc. They are simply cheaper and the quality is good enough.
Also Europe still can produce decent vehicles, look at low-end French and Italian cars. If a company buys a van here, then it's either cheap Peugeot/Citroen van in white, or some locally branded Chinese van (MAZ, Gazelle).
>>536376152PHEV with usable range (150-200km) like China does are best of both worlds.In normal commute you drive electric charging at home overnight, minimal expenses on "gas". Also you absolutely not tied to electric charge infrastructure, so you can drive across country if needed without any range anxiety (very important for 3rd world where you export your cars, and most of the world is 3rd world shithole).Also PHEV like Chinese have very good instant acceleration in EM that pretty much only raw performances specs that average driver have use in his drives.
>>536373950Except the electronics sensors and controllers will randomly die no matter what
Muuuh privacyMuuuh copingHahaha, Europoop is failing hard in RL.Glory to CPC, unironically
>>536380263>Luxury isn't about muh numbers, it's about perceived status.yeah there is brand tax. But luxury cars start falling in sustaining "brand X good" image when they fall behind specs hard. Aslo car design. Chinks do gypsy gaudy luxury that beats European austere elegancy on 3rd wold shitholes markets. Because 3rd worlders: chinks, Arabs, jeets, other sort of browns like gaudy. White European culture people are dying breed of consumers.
>>536380019Yes.>Huawei Secretly Deflates Maybach Tyres To Make Its Maextro S800 Luxury Sedan Look Better.
>>536379907>because it remove the need for huge batteries.Stupid stupid stupid.This is why Chinese PHEV with solid size batteries rule and tiny timmies batteries PHEV made in US and EU fail.
>>536380681Nah, nothing beats the appeal of a BMW or Merc. Arabs love dat shit, they'll never buy a chinicle over it.
>>536379431>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U8europoors don't need to answer this, who wants to pay 150k€ for this shit? and that in china. may be 300k here
>>536372125Western economies can't into advanced tech. All the investment, skills, knowhow, and no capital is gone.
>>536380927>who wants to pay 150k€ for this shit?Pro tip: new gen of rich browns aren't subscribing to self flagellating ideology of euro cucks. Bigger is better. You lost.
>>536380165This is on pair with dick waving nuclear like it matter in context of personal vehicle.You don't have nuclear cars, you won't get zero point cars ether. This is why I used water as example, hybrid solution is good because it's solid and cheap, if you want not commercially viable solution then electric rail is the work around.>>536380759Retard, chink hybrids does exactly what I said is the optimal solution, they just triple down on batteries because they don't trust their own building standards which is a fair concern.
>>536381328>water as exampleGreat keyword. Ever heard about Stanley Meyer?Why do they kill every inventor that challenges the status quo of the jewish energy dealers?Free Energy is free and everywhere, but the kike gatekeepers don't want you to know
>>536379758> quality of chink EVs.> exploding in five years or somethingchink EV better:- cos 'state CCP centralized control' controls/pushies industries- 'free enterprise' billionaires go for short-term profit- they've been playing 'the long game' since NAFTAthey're fixing the exploding-batteries reason (it's cold & lithum related)
>>536373950Your a newfag about cars. The more electronics a car has the lower its life span and the more maintenance. You have never owned and maintained multiple cars. One of the most annoying things that can happen is when something electrical goes out and it trips the security on the onboard computer.
>>536381328>they just triple down on batteries because they don't trust their own building standards which is a fair concern.No sufficiently big batteries (150-200km) are necessary for PHEV success. Logic of eurocucks>median commute toe way is 40 km let's make 40 km PHEV range! Math! Smart!Is pass to failure.Why?1. Electric range is fake and in real world conditions remove at least third form that, plus "median" means half of the users have commute longer than that and overall 2/3 of users wouldn't be able to cover their commute with EM mode.2. Small battery besides small capacity means small power output, so you can't have good acceleration dynamics in EM mode with small cuck battery especially if you used most of the charge. On remaining 20% charge of 40km battery you would be a snail. One of the largest selling perks of electric vehicles is instant on gas press mind-blowing acceleration. Big batteries supply that signature EV acceleration in real world conditions and ranges during daily commute.
>>536381101> new gen of RICH browns aren't subscribing to self flagellating ideology of euro cucksyou missed the point.- RICH people buy luxury/premium cars.- regular people buy Reliable, Affortable cars
>>536381900fml typo: affordable
>>536372125Capitalists shipped our industry overseas and switched to a Jewish finance and consumption based economy.
>>536381900Thing is this pic car would barely reach top of the wheel of a large SUV. When they stop together at light driver of a short car would feel like a cuck.SUV or die.
>>536381727I don't know why you're copy pasting me this shit from EV shill book but this isn't related anyhow to what I said. Chink themselves admitted a proper hybrid wouldn't even have battery mode but people are retarded and think this is a must have "feature", guess they were right.
>>536382520average tank: $50-$80average ev:- $30 (fast charge at charging station)- $10 (home slow charge)Exxon-SVP says barrel will rise from 90-100/barrel to 150-160/barrel.If you plug in when you get home - or even at work - you won't even queue for gas anymore.#never see a gas / charge station again.
>>536372125Guess which of these 3 cars would shit itself on race track?
imagine the horror of german auto makers having to make affordable cars for the domestic market again
>>536372125Are you retarded? The "car" (and I am using that word very loosely here) depends on deepchink style AI and your steering will probably be left in your hands the moment you need to use it. Are you a gay nigglord? Do you trust chink tech? Absolute retard mongol.
>>536382852>Chink themselves admitted a proper hybrid wouldn't even have battery modeSee >>536382920This is why PHEV
>>536372125>What happened to famous European car engineering?Accountants.
>>536382989>shit itself on race trackmost people just want to drop my kids off to school and get to work dude.i've piloted a plane, but never been on a racetrack.
>>536372125I would rather pay thousands for a used european or japanese car than ever drive the latest and greatest chinese car given to me for free.
>>536372125European automotive industry has been bogged down by safety rules. It's why all cars arr rook same SUVs or compact crossovers.Only China can produce affordable aesthetically pleasing cars now.
>>536383196> chink batteries>PHEV1. Batteries evolved a lot in last 3 years.sodium/litium battery combos:- one works well in cold(and doesn't blow up)- one provides energydensity.2. hybrids.. are valid.but only till 2030 I reckon (as I said, batteries are evolving super quick)
>>536383466>but only till 2030 I reckon (as I said, batteries are evolving super quick)It's not about batteries but about fast chargers infrastructure around countries.3rd world building infrastructure? Ain't gonna happen.
>>536383108Even if we would we couldn't.Ever heard about Euro6/Euro7?Euro7 will kill the car for the pleb. Only the elite will drive cars in their planned future. Fuck their planned future, TKD TBD TND.
>>536383586> fast chargers infrastructureor plug it in at home (or work)
>>536373973Afaik there was even a guy who returned his car bc the engine was built by a white guy and he wanted an immigrant built one for some reason
>>536372125Euro cars are retardedly expensive > Dacia Bigster is 33.000 euros.
>>536381697>>536380468>The more electronics a car has the lower its life span and the more maintenanceYou're wrong brainlet.Your phenomena is because you combine electronics with shitty mechanical shock absorbers.If you have electronics with magnetical levitation and intelligent scan, the electronics will never suffer from vibrations. It would last longer than a smartphone sitting on a shelf all its life.
>>536383443>muh safety rulesGerman car makers are retarded fags who thought their main audience is new rich chinkfags and that they could sell overprized boomer SUV to China forever
>>536379519>What you should be asking is why it wasn't adopted.In this case it's because your industry is run by kikes.
>>536378862True. Mass motorization was a mistake. Imagine you could go by train wherever possible and use robotaxis for the last mile. Real daseinsfürsorge
>>536383333sure
>>536372125Chinese cars are junk that break right after taking delivery. The only parts that work are made in Japan. Illiterate imbecile.
>>536375701True top end are, at least for Mercedes.Also, since this was made to suck chinese dick cheese, those german cars might have active suspension - and it was simply shut off for this "demonstration".
>>536384110This is why PHEV.Most of commute you do electric plugging car home at night.But if you need long range drive you just use gas. 3rd countries have gas stations and range is great.
>>536384402>who thought their main audience is new rich chinkfags and that they could sell overprized boomer SUV to China foreverAnd it appeared china can do SUVs better than them.
>>536376258>> magic levitationIt's actually electromanetic levitation.The electromagnetic nature of it allows it to microsdjust 1000 times per second and talk to the a.i. road scanner.It only seems like "magic" to you because you're actually dumb as fuck. lol.
>>536384519SUVs were never our thing. It was sedans and especially station wagonsPicrel made 4th place in the 24h Nurb this year
>>536384455I love dansk people.
>>536384482> hybrids .. 3rd countriestrue, if you commute 300miles a day in the outback.I commute 20-30.
>>536384455>those german cars might have active suspensionYou need a large battery for this.Your old petrolium fuel cars can never operate powerful enough electromagnetic leivation.
>>536383108Heh, I had one of those as my first car.Absolutely fucked shitbox by the time I bought it (almost 30 years old then, and no-one knew how many times the 5 digit kilometer counter had been around back to zero).Got it for the equivelant of US 1200 and a case of beer with clean papers and a freshly passed auto inspection.
>>536373759All technological progress is copied upon each other midwit, it's the improving part that matters.
On topic>Active suspensionIs such an old thingBose made it 20 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSi6J-QK1lwAlso Citroen Xsara activa which still performs on the Nurbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ_3HRMy2js
Oh and i meant the Xantia activa ofc
>>536384925>>Active suspensionDo you know what active actually means in this case?The Chinese car has eyes, it scans the road and actively adjust itself ahead of time for road condition.Your example is not real active sustension. You are showing us a passive system.
>>536373808ok, 56% white
>>536372125The Russians who've HAD to buy Chinese cars now since they're embargoed are complaining loudly about the lack of quality. Workmanship is shoddy, the cars rust through in 2 years if they don't fall apart before that.Americans are not buying Chinese cars or else they'd be complaining too.
>>536375401Only 3% of cars sold in China aren’t Chinese
>>536385243Rust problems can be solved.The same way China invented new batteries for winter environment.>Workmanship is shoddyIt's all done by precision robots.
>>536373701put the dog meat in the bag, chang kong
>>536385232He is talking about europe being deindustrialised.
>>536372125>What happened to famous European car engineeringThe companies were sold to Amerimutt shareholders>>536373804Its just an Amerimutt shill replying to his own thread with a strawman argument
>>536385171Which one do you mean? Bose? Citroen? Both?>Passive SystemIt does the same, who cares if active/passive? Both "failed" anyway in a sense that these are unicorns
implessive https://youtu.be/1pJgvGIk45A
>>536385308>Rust problems can be solved.No they can't. There was effort in the past to make car bodies immune to corrosion and they succeeded. Guess who had a problem with forever lasting cars?
>>536385368>Sold advanced Lavi avionics to the Chinese award
>>536385352>It does the same, Passive means your opponent punch you with a hammer, then you react as you are being hamered.Active means you microsdjust as your opponent swings his hammer at your head.>who cares if active/passive?Lol, don't be butthurt at the superior system.>>536385404>No they can't.They absolutely can. Whatever the europeans do to fight rust, China can do the same thing. You have your head stuck in your ass.
>>536385534>superior systemAs i said it won't get into real world applications on a mass scale>China can do the same thingSo you lurk on 4chan and don't know about the jews? Lurk ten years before making a postCars not rusting and lasting basically forever is a problem for car makers that rely on selling you a new one every five years or something
>>536385626>As i said it won't get into real world applications on a mass scaleThe Chinese cars are already mass produced. It's too late to hope they won't come to existence.>So you lurk on 4chan and don't know about the jews?Your argument is the same as a jew.If a russian guy complains about car A, but ignores car B:-option 1 car B has some sort of improvement car A can copy.-option 2, the guy is a liar
>>536385500we literally didn't retard
>>536385243>The Russians who've HAD to buy Chinese cars now since they're embargoed are complaining loudly about the lack of quality.From Russia Quality ain't problem. Relax problems 1. Chink cars lose value hard.2. Finding right spare parts is a problem. Chinks don't keep meticulous catalogues like Germans. Also they change parts in production on the fly. Like some mechanic who worked with this car before says you need pump "xxyyzz" you order it from China...and it doesn't fit because Chinese changed production car 6 month ago and there no records about that.
>>536377996everything seemed overdesigned (touch screen controls for fucking with the airvents), flimsy like the chinklet step, or just plain fake looking. only chinks buy this shit because only chinks think it looks good, they're tackier than the shirt marty mcfly found off a dead chinese
>>536376020Speed bumps are shit and punish everyone, when you drive at the speed limit you shouldn't feel the bump which isn't the case.
>>536375172They have a brutally competitive free market over there. Technological innovation is the only way to stay afloat. Whoever survives on the Chinese market can mog the western markets with ease.
>>5363853682004, in this era you did not have computer systems and camera technology that could update fast enough.The driver had to manually push a button at the right time to make the car jump.The Chinese car does all of this without Driver input.That video is the most disingenuous argument ever.
>>536372125The original Lexus LS400 is pretty much a 100% rip off of a Mercedes Benz of that time period. The Chinese are doing what the Japs did.
>>536387597the point was the suspension does the same in the washboard test dumb chink
>>536387855>the suspension does the sameNo, kike, if you push the button at the wrong time, you will actually make the car jump and cash directly into the speedbump, this can cause catastrophic accident.You are underestimating the value of automation in this case.This type of navigation should not be left to user control.
>>536373701Wow some shitty shit I never wanted. Do Chinese not understand the value of stiff suspension in a handling focused vehicle? Or is this literally just an electric design vs non electric? Whatever the case: it's Chinese retardation-projections on display like it means something, ONCE AGAIN.
>>536387971i'm not talking about its ability to jump over an obstacle chang
>>536387978>Do Chinese not understand the value of stiff suspension in a handling focused vehicle?Hello drooling retard. The compute a.i. can scan the road and appply stiff suspension as needed.
>>536388030Unfortunately kike, this pre-cognision abiliity from computer is the prerequisite for True Active suspension.
>>536383466NMC and NCA chemistry is here for now. Sure little changes have made them charge faster but the only way to get bigger batteries is to add more batteries--see BMW. GM figured this out with the Hummer EV. There are also LFP batteries but the energy density is lower (as is the voltage). Sodium ion is still very new, but when i researched it the big problem was voltage drop during discharge. Modern inverters would not be happy with that.
>>536388085it's just a magnetic suspension it's literally the same exact suspension bose developed decades ago they bought the IP for it from bose you imbecile nothing about it is novel
>>536388201>but when i researched it the big problem was voltage drop during dischargeNot an issue. You design your circuit and motor to handle larger range of voltage.You are underestimating China if you think this is mantally impossible for them to achieve.But in reality you are coping.
>>536388260>it's just a magnetic suspensionThat's wrong kike.The Chinese system has computer vision that updates the loose/stiff factor 1000 times per second.Your europe system need manual input from driver.If you don't have enough braincells to comprehend why this is important, then you have nothing more to discuss.
>>536373759>>536374029>German vassals copingKek
>>536388260Damnit, i'm not really starting to agree with a jew.Fugg me>>536388360>What are 20 years difference in development and computer systems
>>536388360Tell me: What did you do 20 years ago? Even existing at all?
>>536388360so how did it work on that 2004 lexus
>>536388410>>What are 20 years difference in development and computer systemsTrue, the problem is you think the 20 year old implementation is as good as the new implementation with computer prercognition.You have to manually push the button and risk crashing into the speed bump.Do you understand this old system was a safety rish?
>>536375401This is really only true for the luxury cars. A maybach can buy you any local politician there
>>536388459>so how did it work1. Driver sees pothole2. drive push button for loose suspention3. driver has to remember to push button for stiff suspention.What happens when driver does not see incoming pothole?Think McFly! THINK
>>536388503No, the problem is that you think the 20 year old system should be some magic shit that could beat current tech or something.20 yearsOnce more20 YEARS
>>536373701Cool, now show those same cars taking a corner at 90mph.
>>536388580no retard i was talking about the washboard retard
>>536388601>you think the 20 year old system should be some magic shit that could beat current tech or something.No, I fully admit the 20 year old system is inferior.Now it's your turn Kraut.
>>536388655What washboard? They were not washing clothes in that video.>>536388628See>>536388041
>>536388693the suspension test with the bumps is called a washboard test you imbecile
>>536388693>Cheap chink electronics stop working mid turn>LiveLeak logo appears as you careen off of Mount Ping Pong
>>536388658>Now it's your turn Kraut.For what? Making such shit? You're not buying our cars anymore, why should we make shit only three chinks care about when the rest of the world realized its shit and moved on?
>>536388751>the suspension test with the bumpsOkay.>so how did it work1. Driver sees >>speed bumps<<2. drive push button for loose suspention3. driver has to remember to push button for stiff suspention.What happens when driver does not see incoming _speedbumps_?Think McFly! THINK
>>536388816>For what? Making such shit?Less vibration = more longevity and lower service costs.
>>536388824you're either extremely retarded or just baiting regardless giving you more (you)s is pointless it's entirely passive
>>536388796>>Cheap chink electronics stop working mid turnElectronics that are not subjected to constant microvibrations live much longer than you.
>>536373879>>536373701This is very useful in China when we run over children in the street we do not want to be bothered
>>536388931>it's entirely passiveNo, the old car cannot jump without the driver pushing a button.Yes, one you push the button for loose suspension, it's passive.BUT the loose suspension is NOT always ideal, so you actually need the car to be able to switch back to stiff on occasion.
>>536388875>lower service costsB-but planned obsolescence is the last thing we make money from
>>536389022So now roastie driver can trample children without bothered! Glorious CCP century.
>>536372125European cars are goyslop
>>536372125What's the brand of that first car
>>536389120Hans, you must accept unplanned obsoletion now.In China they crash into each other, so they don't need planned obsoletion.
>>536389169>European cars are goyslop
>>536389179Probably the BYD Yangwang U7
>>536376495>Every government subsidizes their domestic auto industry retard.It's more than that, the so called freemarket capatalists have to ban these cars so they dont get dunked on. If companies cant compete they were supposed to go under but now since it's in some boomer kikes portfolio these companies have to stay alive.
>>536388933>404 error >Car slams into nearby foundry which is currently spewing molten ""steel"" all over the employees trapped in suicide nets
>>536389209You mean we can put in even more planned obsolescence? Great, will do
>>536389451>>404 errorThey don't run on american OS, so no crashes.
>>536389521>404>OSChink education, everyone
>>536389622>>OSOS on other end of internet crashed, not your OS.
>>536373701Let me know when a chink car wins a rally or prix (protip, it won't)
>>536389748https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnXu-VQhwtA
>>53638844920 years ago China has become the worlds leading producer of steel and other refined metals. I think you had joined the Iraq war or something.
>>536372125Same thing the Japanese did, their stuff was pretty bad at the beginning then became amazing… then the Jews tricked them with money games and real estate scams… if china can deflect the money scams of Jews they’ll stay a manufacturing powerhouse
>>536380019>Chinksects fake going over bumps>+1000 izzatDo you seriously believe they would fake something as trivial as this? If it's easier for retards to believe they need to fake this so your world view doesnt crumble then enjoy your box.
Most of the heated arguments in this thread has 2 causes.1. /pol/ doesn't understand a car needs both stiff suspension and loose suspension.2. /pol/ is blind to the value of a computer vision system that can automatically swap between stiff suspension and loose suspension.The 1st is good.But the 2nd is foundational.
>>536389922FTFY
>>536390373That's London.In China the cams are for traking your glownigger colleagues.
>>536372125mayo roaches can't build. lol. there's a video of a drill going through byd battery and nothing happens, but when it drills through birdshit skin battery, it melts down. lmao
>>536373701This made them seethe holy shit
>>536390449Erm this what I see on expressway. Blinded even backseat passenger.Driving on Chinese expressways, you will frequently experience flashing cameras, but a flash does not always mean you received a ticket. The cameras use bright flashes to capture high-definition, clear photos of drivers and license plates regardless of the lighting conditions
>>536390621I Doubt it, you're just mad and butthurt right now.
>>536385336it's you birdshit skins that kill their dogs the most. Do you want to go into the beastiality rates for birdshit skins? yeha, it's 90% done by you birdshit skins
>>536390449>Gas lightType China flash expressway into any search engineNow do what yellow poos do best. Go harass every site with pics of Chinese surveillance photos you can find on the web. Make it disappear from reality.
>>5363908931 butthurt mutt confirmed.
>>536372125>a car built so that driver doesn't even feel when he runs over a personoh yeah, I can see why Chinese would do that
>>536373950The formula for reliability has been known for a long long time in terms of drivelines and suspensions. On drivelines you overbuild differentials, transmission, drive shafts, and transfer cases. You use the U-joints, and front locking hubs as the sacrificial part of the chain. Something WILL break in that chain. A ujoint can be replaced easily by anyone who isnt gay in like 15mins max. Same with a front locking hub. On suspension your point of failure needs to just be directed away from the frame into an easily replaceable ubolt or bushing. IFS much less reactive computer IFs etc etc are far too complicated to be well engineered systems. Solid front and rear axle with leaf springs on all four tires is the most well engineered system.
>>536390997There's simply nothing more dishonest and subversive than yellow poos. A million bugs crawling in every thread.
>>536391080>I'm just going to randomly rest on the road and sleepHello Pajeet.>>536391116>Something WILL break in that chainLook at the OP again.There is nothing in the Chinese car that MUST break, the wagon goes through a straight smooth motion.
>>536391155Keep crying butthurt Mutt.
>>536379006Tom Kranich was my favourite partner
>>536391227Why China love mcds so much but you hate? Maybe you not chink like me?
>>536391412>b-but Muh mcds
>>536384633Gdi that looks like shit
>>536391227In terms of drivelines- anything taking that kind of torque on a regular basis WILL as a metaphysical certainty fail at some point. Suspensions are a similar situation though. Anyways, transmission, transfer case, ujoint, drive shafts, axle shafts, hubs, etc. The retarded engineer builds something complicated in the hopes that nothing ever fails... all they are doing is eventually routing that failure through your "sacred" systems aka diffs and transmission. The smart engineer overbuilds everything but leaves some sacrificial links in the chain to spare the important systems from major shock loads etc. Aka using adequate but underbuiot Ujoints and front locking hubs. Note- I am speaking in terms of 4x4s because they are the only vehicles that matter. Now with leaf spring suspensions there is almost no real weak point. Once you solve the axle wrap issues, the weak points are the spring bushings and hangers. The only thing to be careful with on this sort of suspension is frame/mount connections. But compared to a modern reactive IFS the leaf spring system is simply a much more well engineered system.
that'll be $500,000 plus tip
>>536391643>anything taking that kind of torque Look at the OP again Mutt.There was no torque in that video.
>>536372125what happened with honesty? oh yeah righ, soulless bug people dont know honor.Huawei Caught Faking a Maybach Incident, Secretly Deflating Tires; Shockingly Deceptive!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_cSXeq-Eg
>>536391741Butthurt falun gong video
>>536391741Judging by the yellow poo minders on this site, there's no low they wouldn't go.
>>536372125Europe is a fucking joke and has been for decades.A free reign tax cattle farm where banking cartels plot to steal everything and the boomers clap their chubby little hands thinking the money will eventually go to them (it won’t).
>>536373973Lmao i'd literally ask for a different car
>>536379079
>>536391949No bank cartel in glorious CCP China
>>536391741>china observerok, gordon chang
>>536391716I realize you are retarded and have no clue about how an automobile works. But I have from the beginning been talking about two primary systems. 1. The suspension (the system involved in this particular clip). This system does not deal with torque (in the normal driveline sense of the word at least) obviously there are exceptions depending on the suspension system like torsion bars etc. Anyways the point is that these reactive IFS style suspensions are inferior to the more robust and simpler predecessors even if the ride is not as smooth. This is a result of ease in repairibility and robustness and cost. Any Joe blow can jack up a truck and replace a leaf spring bushing/hanger etc. in a few mins. 2. Drivelines. This is an unrelated system. It is not what the video is about. But this is the most important system on a motor vehicle. And I was bringing this up to point out different design philosophies because it is a great example of how you design around strategic sacrificial points of failure rather than trying to make interconnected systems you THINK will never fail. This is the system that deals with torque shock loads. Hence the source of your confusion. Now here is a prediction. In 40 years there wont be more than a handful of vehicles (of any maker) still on the road. The systems are too complex. Too proprietary and when failure begins to accrue it isnt worthwhile to repair them if it is even feasible in the first place. However there ARE STILL vehicles made in the 70s still on the road. And many of those vehicles will still be on the road decades for now unless they are banned. That's the ultimate test of your design philosophy vs theirs.
>Hele's ur Cal Battely aiyaa.
>>536392066>ALL STARBOARD CANNONS: FIRE!!
>>536392216Handful of modern vehicles*
>>536372125will come back one day, once everything has been destroyed, as its the way of the european people, to fall and rise over and over,unlike india, who always only knew the way down
>>536391116This. My 82 Chevy pickup drove plenty smooth and any home mechanic can keep it running in perpetuity without going to a mechanic
>>536392216>Anyways the point is that these reactive IFS style suspensions are inferior to the more robust and simpler predecessors evenThis is also a lie, Mutt.Your mind is so backwards you are mentally incapable of comprehending the Chinese magnetic levitation can be as stiff and as robust as it needs to be, see>>536388041
>>536372125Stiff suspension is far better for handling and cornering though. Try to take that chink car around a corner and the body roll will be life threatening.
>>536392744>Try to take that chink car around a corner and the body roll will be life threatening.See>>536388041The problem with the american brain is, it can only think at the level of a child.
>>536392657It's a fact. The modern suspensions ride smoother and are more complicated for sure. But what price has that ride quality been purchased at? Boondoggle tier systems? That wont be WORTH replacing when they fail? That have about 10x the number of failure points? Where parts are prohibitively expensive? That cannot be worked on at home? That may even require control modules for reactive suspension? That parts wont be made for in ten years? In your tiny mind you think this is a worthwhile trade-off for the superior ride quality lol? Even remotely? This makes sense in your mind because you look at automobiles like a something you pay monthly to have access to. Not something you buy and own and intend to run for decades. Sure if you have adjusted to a slave mentality of "monthly car payment" then why not have a boondoggle of a vehicle with laughably complicated systems because hy the time they fail you will just be making a payment on a different vehicle kek.
>>536392934>But what price has that ride quality been purchased at?They are cheaper than your cars, Mutt.LMAO
>>536392578The only thing on a truck like that which would require a mechanic is regearing a diff. Maybe some driveshaft work. Exhaust work perhaps. Body work. Opening up a transmission. Etc. but besides that yes you can pretty much do the rest yourself. And even those things I listed will be cheap and easy for the mechanic.
>>536393016Again I realize you are basically retarded. I have not been talking about chink cars vs mutt cars. Youre deluded by this nationalism (which is baffling considering Chinese history is just a revolving door of bug masses getting ground into powder by their lords and conquerors). Anyways that is besides the point. I am not comparing chink cars to american cars you idiot. I am comparing OLD cars to NEW cars kek. No modern manufacturer, chink, euro, american, jap, etc. makes a remotely decent vehicle in 2026.
