This entire Ukraine war been pretty crazy, I don’t think nobody guess that 4 years after the war, Ukraine is still standing and hitting Russia cities (St Petersburg) Putin messed up
>>536386981fuck eh I guess Putin should just end the war and apologize to everyone and call it a day
We'll probably get a decade or more out of these bitches like Syria
Kikes couldn't take over Gaza (size equal to 2 Russian cities of Mariupol)
>>536386981The best part of the Ukraine/Russian war is the drone advancements that are now turning jews into mangled corpses.
And russia won't last until the end of the year. Nobody knows what the collapse will be like. But they will have no choice about their surrender terms.
>>536387534>nuclear power surrenderslol. lmao evenholy fuck you swiss faggots are retarded
>>536387573John Burger from Arkansas oblast is up very early again to defend russia on the internet.
>>536387534>>536387630Same sick faggot reading from the NAFO troon response flowchartNow call him brown
>>536386981lol Americans are really seething about Lebanese drone attacks. So much cope spam.
>>536387630he is right tho , this conflict was pretty dumb , putin propably underestimated how much NATO would arm ukraine , now both russia and ukraine are on a national demographic suicide , there will be no ukraine specifically perhaps not even a russia in the next few decades
>>536387534Two weeks evolved
>>536387745Almost zero demographic change in Russia retard. Maybe .2% of men from 20-40.Ukraine has lost 1/3 of its population and 11 of the 22 million people left are pensioners.They have about 500k men left who are able to fight and are all in hiding.
>>536386981how is this going to save you from hezbollah, yid?
>>536386981The russians are definitely the underdog but they are the only hope for humanityPlus ukraine is going to lose because the west betrayed the jews. It's going to be long but slowly the scales will tip in favor of the russians, they will just kill so many ukrainians that they won't be able to put up q a defense anymore
Ukraine has already received $100 billion in aid without any benefit.4 years later, Russia is milking the Western economy.
ziggers on high alert
>>536387573>r*ssia will just nuke the entire planet to avoid the embarrassment of losing to Ukraine Yeah, that tracks
>>536386981jewlenskyy begged to have face to face meetings with Putin yesterday.Previously he said Putin would have to die before there was peace.The britbongs, goymoney and frogs are also now, today, begging for peace.Previously they were demanding the balkanization of Russia.nafo not only lost, they have been completely demilitarizeds and deindustrialized.Meanwhile Putin says jewlenskyiv is welcome to come to Moscow to talk any time.
>>536387899now it's a /pol/ humor thread
>>536386981TKD
You forgot you meme flag.
>>536387497This lol
>>536388086Stories made up in a schizophrenic mind
>>536386981Ukraine isn't still standing though. It's population fled, has been killed in trenches, and what's left is being bussified by NATO to go die in a trench too. The belligerents arent Ukraine Vs Russia, it's all of NATO vs Russia.
>>536387857ah yes, the goyslop
>>536387686ragheads beat my homeland of USA and your homeland of USSR and nobody fired a single nuke
>>536387573>nuclear powerIs there a single proof of the nuclear arsenal being still present, in an usable state, within the borders of Russian Federation?
>>536387933100B was given to Ukraine by Biden. The actual cost for the globohomo alliance is close to 1.5 trillion USD counting weapons, ammo, payment and a awful lot of Israeli intelligence services that no one can explain.
>>536387717...these drones could use a little bit of white brainpower but other than that good for them I guess. literally every middle east drone vid is either misses, near-misses or targeting random shit when something right next to it makes you cringe when they don't, meanwhile the slavs are piloting them like they're playing some autistic counterstrike or rainbox six bullshit
>>536388250Relax bro it’s just a paper.
>>536388250If true this is insane.And low IQ's still talking about 1v1 in Ukraine.
>>536386981I do wonder about Ukraine hitting cities like St. Petersburg and threatening the Victory Day parade. Or Operation Spiderweb. Also that military exercise where 30 Ukrainian drone operators won against something like 1,500 NATO troops.There is no way to protect yourself from drones if your enemy is determined enough, is there? And now there is talk of AI assisted drones...How do you actually counter drones?
>>536388154wrong, fuckface.https://youtu.be/N2OeYWfn3OI?t=1647
>>536388250>>536388441>Actually Russia fight the entire world in Ukraine!>W- we are not getting our asses kicked by hohol nazis, I swear!The cope must flow, I guess
>>536387251Bro cmon, let’s admit that this is funny Russians probably could never imagine this could happened to them They thought in the start of the war they were safe and they not going see any consequences of their government actions They were wrong
>>536388648Well both statements are true as Ukraine use services of different western affiliated governments, companies and military and surveillance services all over the world which meant world is contributing in Ukraine's war against Russia and technically in a war with Russia.And second hohol nzis also true its just MSM media keep hush-hush about it because bong krauts frogeaters and muricans still cant digest nazis in any form. And muricans literally have mayor Mamdani labeled as communist.So yes, bobr, you told the truth here. Suddenly, satirical, but truth.
>>536388551>And now there is talk of AI assisted drones...Ukrainians claim to use automated groups of recon and offensive drones in the area between Crimea and Mariupol. Think of a dispersed network of flying sensors circling over a vast area that alarms the flight operator only when computers identify something worth of bombing on the ground.You don't need "AI" to get it working. Simple image processing, automation to keep the proper routes and distance between drones, and ability to relay the information. The only issue is long- range communication and vulnerability to jamming, and apparently it's already solved by starlinks.
>>536389033Build nukes polish bro I don’t sure what USA future is, you probably can’t trust on them anymore, Russia is weakened and in mass right now, I very doubt UK or France would try to stop you from getting nukes. So yeah, the time is now, build nukes as soon as possible.
>>536387573Well…yeah. What are they going to do with their nukes to stop from surrendering? Attack Ukraine? It would end in at the least a complete blockade from every other major nation on Earth. China would even participate. Russia is not worth sacrificing the planet over, no one is going to agree to that anon.
>>536386981It's hardly a new phenomenon. People thought WW1 would be over in 6 months
>>536389188Not at all.orange niggergolem will declare peace before Friday market close and declare war again after Monday market open.He's been doing it for months.
>>536388741Ironic flag.
>>536386981Eh Russia is still making steady battlefield advancements. Ukraine has realized they are losing the war so they've switched to insurgency tactics. Hitting easily repaired oil refinering isn't that big of a deal to Russia, especially since Russia already operates at significantly reduced capacity.
>>536388741There's already a lot of Russian jews in your "country", about 25% IRC. I bet you guys are happy that (((some))) of the more successful Russians eventually say "fuck this shit" and move to Israel with their capital.
>>536388741I support nuking israel and india
>>536386981>Ukraine knows it can't take back territory it lost>Ukraine resorts to killing Russian civilians in city centers thinking that will stop the war>Ukraine has no brainpower to realize Putin does not careMeanwhile Ukraine has lots several generations of men at this point, completely gone. and a lot of women have fled to the rest of Europe and elsewhere. The future of Ukraine is now not Ukrainian. Putin won.
>>536389981Oil refineries aren't easy to repair, especially when you aren't producing the equipment domestically
>>536389610>i care about the stock market but its OTHER PEOPLE who are niggergolemsno, if you care about the kike stock market, you are a kike nigger golem, end of story
>>536388741Iran has nuclear. You're history. When the AC assumes control, you people will be crushed and ground down like insects for worshiping saturn.
>>536387534yeah ukraine has them on the ropes, they're about to surrender any minute now.
guys some dude i yelled at came and took up residence in my spare room without my permission and it's been years of this, but i'm winning because he hasn't taken any of the other rooms in my house
>all these euromutts responding to a fake broken english israel baitRussia can have europe im over you faggots
>>536386981Honestly, I wouldn't have thought the population of Ukraine would have went to a strong 45 million down to 20 million in just 4 years to be replaced by Indians and that NATO would have been incapable of defeating Russia. But of course kikes are always giddy to see goyim die. TKD
>>536389981there is a solution, but long term. point defence weapon is a short term solution, russia is working on some semi-automatic turretsdefensive architecture (for everything from infrastructure to cities) is a long term solution, for example those storages could be underground, with 300% profit margin those companies can afford it lolworld it going into new dark ages that will last from 30 to 100 years and population is not growing as fast as during industrial age so its time to fortify everything
>>536388441It's true, just last year's round from the EU alone were USD 100 billion plus in cash
>>536390137>The future of Ukraine is now not Ukrainian. Putin won.Russia's objective is not to empty Ukraine of Ukrainians, you fucking idiot. This isn't Hearts of Iron 4 or Battlefield 1942. Their objective was to blitz Ukraine into forced neutrality and force NATO to the negotiating table (on Crimea, on NATO expansion, on gas pipelines, etc) from a position of power. They failed so hard, so miserably, that even Sweden of all countries has joined NATO now. They failed to protect the Syrians. They failed to protect the Armenians. They failed to protect the Iranians. Nobody on either side had expected Russia to fail the way they did. So there is no plan now, Russia can't progress militarily but they can't call it quits either.>b-but they're killing a lot of Ukrainians and occupying land, sure that gives them at least 40% warscore for the peace dealYou're probably underage anyway.
>>536390484>Russia can have europeCan they tho? I mean, they cant even have Kiev, let alone Mala Tokmachka but who knows. 2 more weeks perhaps?
>>536388307Give the noobs some time to learn the ropes, slavs had 4 years piloting experience.
>>536390777>Russia's objective is not to empty Ukraine of UkrainiansGood numbers, wrong take.There's a reason why Russians bomb civilian areas rather than industrial facilities and why Ukrainians bomb everything to lower the financial and industrial capacity of Russia in the war.Russia wants to seize everything that has any industrial or business value without the people. They will get there some churkas and niggers if they will be needed. Just like it happened in the areas taken in 2022.
>>536387573>Most nukes on trucks.>Nukes on trucks.>Sensitive electronics.>50 years of Siberian winter.Their nukes don't work anymore. They might have one offs that work, but thousands? No...Hit them hard and often.
>>536386981K. Ukraine lost entire generations of men and have to replace them with africans. It will never recover
>>536390777>Russia's objective is not to empty Ukraine of Ukrainianscorrect, that's your job. good work by the way
>>536390224How would you know?You are a blue haired useless faggot who couldnt change a flat tire
>>536387497You’re brown
>>536387573you surrendered to Taleban, and if you want an even more recent example, you are surrendering to Iran at this very moment
>>536387497They arent. There are single webms in /uhg/ with more dead ziggers in them than the idf has lost in all of Lebanon.
>>536392276Rothschilds tried to defeat russia, instead core russian lebensraum will increase greatly
>>536392712Russia wont even exist an a decade.
>>536392655kike mutt cope
>>536392883So far it exists for 1200 years, on what facts do you base your assumptions?
>>536388215>Russia has 3 days worth of missiles leftfast forward a few years>maybe their nukes don't even workI'd love to meet you cunts at a poker table kek.
>>536393270Is russia launching less missiles now than they were in the first year of the war? Yes or no?
>>536393918Go ask grok or something you retarded faggot. It has increased year on year every year so far and this year is set to continue the trend. Is that what you wanted to hear?
>>536386981PUTLER GETS NO PISS UNTIL HE GOES BACK TO HIS OWN BORDERSHE WAS DOING A SUMMIT AT ST PIDORSBURG SO THEY BLOW IT UP A BIT JUST TO REMIND HIMTHEUKRAINE IS A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY WITH INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED BORDERSA SHAM REFERENDUM AT GUNPOINT DOES NOT ALLOW R*SSIA TO LANDGRAB EVROPEAN CLAY WHATS NEXT THE BALTICS POLAND PORTUGAL
>>536394220>It has increased year on year every year so far No, it hasn't. In fact it's only a fraction of what it was at the start of the war. So your cute attempt at a gotcha moment you tried in your previous is comment is null and void, retard
>>536386981Ukraine's population has been damaged to a point it will take decades to recover even if the war ended today, and that is if they don't bring in infinity jeets, if that happens Ukraine will never recover from this war.
>>536394403>So your cute attemptBack to plebit with you faggot.
>>536386981buddy, half this board knew on the "day 3 of special operation" it was gonna last 5-10 years and be a meat grinder for the native populations. Anyways guess russia needs africans or indians or something right.
>>536394601I don't know what is said at reddit, but since you clearly do, perhaps it is you that should go back there.Also, I accept your concession
>>536393270>maybe their nukes don't even workThe answer came in early 90s.Now the question is if they have it at all.
>>536394996strikes with ballistic and hypersonic missiles increased more than 10 times, same as production if such weaponstriked with cruise missiles were reduced 10 times, russia copied USA memetic tomahawk weapon after the end of cold war, it worked against sandniggers, but in europe you need ballistic with huge payload. it was russian original approach
>Mfw russian cope in threadCope, seethe, and dilate.Please please more dead Russians for Christmas.
>>536394996>attempt gotcha>forgot to not be retarded>types like a redditor>accept concessionLol just kys
>>536395597All AI search engines have been programmed to lie for NATO. Ask it about the 2015 Ukrainian offensive.AI will say it never happened.
>>536386981apparently not enough slavs have died yet. the war will end when the chabad mafia deems the area ethnically cleansed enough so that the kikes can move there.
>>536395425>strikes with ballistic and hypersonic missiles increased more than 10 times, same as production if such weaponYou will never post a source for this>>536395597Looks like my choice of words triggered you, little snowflake. Sad, for you>using AI hallucinations as an argumentLol. You're making this way too easy for me. I don't even have to put in effort. As I said, I accept your concession. You can stop posting now, you lost. Cope and seethe about it. Or continue posting if you wish to make me laugh even more
>>536395597I love watching you wiggle and struggle like the little maggot you are.>bu-but muh AI said...!Pathetic!
>>536396043jew AI search, it traced source to wikipedia, i was actually wrong about iskander, its even more. in 2025 iskander production increased 14 times (700) in comparison to 2022 (50), not 10 lolit will increase >20 times until the end of this year in comparison to 2022this is just one type of missiles, but very powerful
>>536396577In reality they have no fucking idea what Russia produces.
>>536396577This guy admitted to being a holol deserter hiding in finland in the other thread, he's just shitposting in some sort of guilt fueled attempt to justify his treason
>>536397411>every finnish flag in every thread is the same guy because I say so!The absolute state of vatnigger shills
>>536397530kek
usrainians are some of the dumbest motherfuckers around
>>536397775Where in that post is there an admission of being ukrainian?
>>536387136He must offer his daughter to the rape horse
>>536386981So two more weeks and Zelensky is going to take Moscow and force regime change so Russia unbanneds Zuckerbergs facebook?
The war in Ukraine began in February 2014 when Russia said kikebook is staying banned.Yes, Russia permanently banned Facebook and its parent company, Meta, on March 21, 2022. Remember what your fighting for.
>>536397994now that you admitted it's you, pic related is the ukro admission
>>536392454Wow I'm sure they stung him real bad.I'm positive you just stopped the real holocaust from happening.
>>536387857>Only use 0,2% of your men>still lose 1,3 million soldiers and most of your gear 4 years into your offenseThey only need to send more human waves than the enemy has bullets
Russia first banned access to Facebook on February 25, 2022, shortly after the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian government officially banned the platform entirely on March 4, 2022. The kikes are on overtime that there is no connection between the two.
>>536396191>if I keep pretending I proved my point then I proved it!
More lies from the robotic kike.Vladimir Putin has not made a direct statement saying social media is worse than nuclear weapons. The quote is frequently misattributed to him, but historical records indicate that it was actually made by political scientist and author Ian Bremmer.Bremmer stated, "Social media is worse than nuclear weapons" in 2018 during an interview with CBS News [CBS News] to promote his book Us vs. (((Them)))
No official public statement or widely reported quote directly attributes the phrase "Putin social media has been worse for society than nuclear weapons" to a specific public figure, academic study, or government official. However, this comparison reflects an ongoing, serious debate among geopolitics experts, tech ethicists, and national security analysts regarding the relative societal harms of(((( digital disinformation campaigns))))
>>536398286I didn't admit to any such thing, I ignored your post entirely, because I see no reason to entertain your delusions. >pic relatedThere's no admission there either. You're reading into things you want to read because either you are a nigger with zero reading comprehension ability, or you have no substantative arguments, only ad hominems, or both.>>536398571>still hasn't posted a source after having been given multiple opportunities to do soKeep living in fantasy land, loser
(((((Social media)))) is not destroying society outright, but it is fundamentally subverting our social structures and behaviors. It subverts as a powerful double-edged sword always playing both sides . Falsify information and fosters global hommo, but can also fuel be addictive, lead to death while driving and organize leftist and radical groups to burn loot and murder.I made that true your welcome.
>>536386981when u use memeflags or vpn, moishe, ur kvetching seems less pathetic
You need to die in a fucking warfor zulenky because Putin is a trillionaire and banned Zuckerberg the billionaire. Oh fuck you.
>>536399029You know that the onus of proof is on you, faggot. You are the one that asked the question you thought was a "gotcha" and your wriggling and squirming away from that is even funnier because you're obviously more invested in this than I am. Anyway, here's some other faggots carefully curated dataset: https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/piterfm/massive-missile-attacks-on-ukraineYou'll be happy to know that he's on your side (even though he proves that you're full of shit (and also gay and retarded) )
>>536386981Yes but now Russian babes are easier to score than ever . My us dollars go far in Georgia and Turkey where all the proto babushkas are on the hunt for american men like myself with a stronger genetic background of native American and European swaisians Semper Fi faghot
>>536399579Over a million men died because Nafto doggo faggot furys got banned from using kikebook to influence Russia and I am not apologizing for their fake news.
>>536387534delusional, Putin will not stop voluntarily, John Burger from Arkansas oblast is correct on this one
>>536387630it's not "defending russia" to admit reality. we must be open eyed about the strength and intentions of our adversaries.
>>536400076I am kikebook should be put in a Nazi death camp..
>>536399579The conversation started about missiles. The source you posted concerns drones and UAVs, so it's not relevant to the discussion at all
>>536388551Are you retarded? Drones will be countered by laser turrets operated by artificial intelligence Then the amount of drones lost would be very high Although this counter technicology already exists for tanks the breakthrough towards energy personal carrier options
>>536400220when will you be returning to the usraine to help fight back the already defeated russians?in addition since they obviously launch less and less missiles now you can post here for 45 minutes a day from the comfort of your underground metro or on the bus bringing you to basic fodder training
>>536386981>>536387251>>536388741Everyone fucked up recently. Russia is too weak for Ukraine. USA is too weak for Iran. Israel is too weak for Hisbollah. France is too weak for Africa.Turns out Van Crefeld was right with his book "Us Pussycats". Everyone should read it, just like everoyne should read Shafarevich's "The Socialist Phenomenon" and Wurmbrandt's "Marx and Satan".Everyone should read thes ebooks, they are all on archive.org. You will learn a lot and maybe come out a bit smarter. Funny how I recommend this books for over 5 years now and you are still making the same mistakes, still beign surprised by the same bullshit.
>>536387534The era of countries collapsing is over, look at Iran: it had every reason to collapse but didn't. So when Russia loses the war and Putin dies or gets outsted, nothing will happen, some other guy from his party will take control and everyone will accept it and carry on as usual.
>>536400220>The conversation started about missiles.You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
>>536386981What is the point of these spines on the motorway?
>>536400706>it had every reason to collapse but didn't.No, it didn't. The world isn't the way CNN, Fox News and White house press conferences say it is.You have a very simplistic view of the world if you think Iran had every reason to collapse.
>>536400530I find it funny how pro-russian posters have nothing to say except personal attacks.
>>536386981pretty impressive to fuck up a modern ship over a thousand miles away
>>536400967I find it funny how you can't articulate your point.
>>536400983Yeah that zigger ship is gone
>>536401170The initial premise has not changed which you have not disproven>russian missile attacks have reduced since 2022
>>536401379Prove me wrong this was had nothing to do with Russia banning kikebook and that's why Zulenky called for regime change and said he would march into Moscow then Russia was all like ok we are talking your threat seriously where we are this is not kikebook.
>>536401379But they have lol. You keep circling back to this but everything proves you wrong. It wasn't even a part of my original post but you chose this hill to die on off the bat.
* ok we are taking your threat seriously, here we are this is not kikebook.
>>536400983That was simply a dropped cigarettes you HATO russophobic propagandist!
>>536386981eh, the afghanistan was similar. I dont know what it is, ruskis dont want to commit or what
>>536401646>but they haveExactly, that's what I said. Glad you came around finally to see the truth.
But at the end of the day ultimately Ukraine won't allow a vote for a new president that doesn't give a fuck if Russia banned kikebook?
>>536387573a nuclear power already lost the cold warhow did that turn out? how did it turn out, HIVan?
>>536395597>Full scale invasion>with 50-100k troops.
calculated
>>536401954Well three you go, you got your "gotcha" moment because I mistyped something. Would you like to make your triumphant return to reddit now?
>>536386981>t. Ukrainian jew writing from the exileIt's comical how Ukraine is getting bombed daily at a completely unprecedented rate, yet you are here pretending that their weak responses can hide this fact
>>536387883Hopefully it won't, sending psychic power into universe in support for hezbollah
>>536402956If you wanna try refuting my point try posting a source
>>536386981Now this is Blyatiful
>>536386981Now that Ukraine is winning, will they start paying back the loans ?
>>536404788Your point being? Seriously. What was the point of asking me whether Russian missile strikes on Ukraine had increased or decreased? You can't even get over that but what was your next move anyway?
>>536407200You made a strawman argument (attacking things nobody ever said), but I pointed out that EVEN IF somebody had said that, it wouldn't be that far from the truth
>>536387184no. ples stap.
>>536407465Are you just cycling through every logical fallacy in the book? What was your next move if that one worked?Or did you know it wouldn't work and this whole thing is just an exercise in wasting time?
>>536400642First time I’ve heard of these books, thanks for the recomendation
>>536386981Putin should've looked for an out after the initial strong reaction from the evil West. It was obvious and still is that it's enduring. He's just a moron when it comes to military strategy. Maybe he's high off his own KGB farts and vastle overestimates how effective Russian scheming and propaganda is against more firstie-minded countries.
>>536390103India and Israel phully sapport puccia saar
>>536407966>Are you just cycling through every logical fallacy in the book? No, go take a look in the mirror, that's what you are doing. It's not my fault that you're too stupid to discuss without constantly committing fallacies and are projecting that onto me>What was your next move if that one worked?It did work, you've yet to refute even the very first point I made
I love watching russians die. Best part is, I don't even have to feel sympathy for them, cause they are not really people anyway.
>>536408795>overestimates how effective Russian scheming and propaganda is Eh, they definitely pushed what's possible with propaganda. They've turned Hungary into a nation of cynics. Byt then Hungarians woke up and showed a clear path on how to defeat ziggerbabble.I think every country has to go through it, until they develop zigger fatigue and yearn for optimism.
>>536386981Jokes on you, Shlomo. I am more ok with you lot defending yourself than a hohol. At least a Jew can have some semblance of respectability.When one of you lot kills a Muslim civilian, you at least have the good grace to pretend it was a tragic accident.When Nazis kill Jews, the hohols enthusiastically volunteer to loot the bodies and help burn them. A job so disgusting even SS men didn't want to do itThey really are a people from the toilet of humanity, like indians.
>>536409704I still feel bad for the kids who were betrayed by their own families, schools, teachers. At 18,i didn't know what planet i live on either.
>>536398260>DA JOOOOOOOOOS
>>536392276Losing millions of men is healthy for society and they don't have to be replaced.
>>536409888There is this saying - the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Their parents were garbage humans, so i can only assume their children are as well.
>>536386981Yea I have no clue whatever the f Ukrainians were thinking about, they became riddled with debt for multiple generations and they will be replaced with Indians and Africansgood game retards
>>536386981Shut up kike
>>536388741Shut up kike
>>536410100>how dare ukraine defend itself instead of rolling over and submitting to pozzia.ziggers get the rope, provided they don't get draft orders first and get extradited back to pozzia to end up in goreleaf's dead zigger storage compilations.
>>536410075Yes, maybe. I wish i had the means to help the good ones escape.
>>536386981The war isn't meant to be won, it's meant to be continual. It's why they got rid of Prigozhin, he wanted to win, not be a guinea pig for advanced war technology which is what the 'war' is.
>>536400983Why are you posting an American ship in Qatar hit by Iran? You can even see American corporal Jimmy Hotdog from Ohio Oblast running by.
>>536386981I would truly love to know what the average ukrainain thinks is a legitimately achievable goal 5 years into this war...like what does the ukraine ACTUALLY think is going to happen now..?ukrainians cant seriously believe they will ever reconquor the 1991 borders...do they?surely...ukrainians dont still believe dogshit like the big 'crimean beach party' are just an offensive or 2 away...what is (seriously) ukraines 'win condition'? what do they think the end of this war looks like for them?>"the death of Putin!">"the collapse of "Putins regime!"Russia is never going to "just go away!" its not going to happen. not ever..what do 'ukro-nationalists' think the end of this war will be?nato utterly expended itself..it has nothing left to send, no wunderwaffe, no magic weapons, no alien tech nothing... if anything nato itself has no answer to simple fucking drones....so how could they possibly have some grand-strategy for 'defeating Russia' on Russian soil? I am completely lost as to what ukraine/nato realistically hopes to achieve..they cant seriously believe they will instigate a coup in Russia still.. do they....?
>>536412595>what the average ukrainain thinks I'll stop you right there. They don't. At all.
