Medieval serf vs. 2026 wageslave: who has it worse?
>>536388874it depends
>>536388874>eurotrashyoure fucking fine stop bitching. they pay you to sit home
Didn't some princes demmand that wives of some peasants had their first night with them instead of their husbands?
>>536388874Serf didn’t have to live around niggers and could hit his wife
>>536388874The wagie is allowed to leave and be homeless elsewhere. The serfs were basically slaves.
kings are always baddemocracy is always best because then the people gets to decide
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>>536388874Not a fair comparison given that serfs were but one layer of the peasantry, itself a subcategory of medieval professions, most of which were made up of self-employed workers.
is that a serious question?
>>536389091I believe that was made up, from the movie braveheart. This is why movies are so dangerous, because most people get their historical knowledge from fictional movies
>>536389441You can just search it. It wasn'tThe trend nowadays is to make medieval times look as romanticized and "perfect" as possible
>>536388874wageslave. Serfs got a virgin wife, at least. wageslaves have nothing.
>>536389441Prima nocta has been a humiliation ritual throughout various cultures who had a hardon for gross shit
>>536389489Source?
>>536389534Are there this many loser faggots? I am a fucking 5'5 and have wife and kids
>>536389489>>536389566>You can just search it.Please provide a contemporary document showing it was a common occurrence in medieval Europe. I'll wait.
>>536389566It was rare and not really a cultural staple anywhere, sick fucks are going to sick fuck
>>536389566I think your wrong m8https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur
>>536389582I mean this non insultingly as possible, but I’d rather just not have kids than curse them with genes like that
>>536388874It depends what kind of wageslave
>>536389692This is why you can't have anyone, obsessing over things this hard. I know plenty of people, ugly ones, hell even fat ones, with women.That's the price of being terminally online, it fucks your mind.
>>536389667>rare I think it was entirely made up, whats your source for it occurring in Europe?
>>536389764I have a gf lol. You don’t sound very secure desu
>>536389772>what’s my source for a man in power abusing it to fuck a womanBeing human and not needing internet robots to fill in my reality I guess
>>536389800>has a gf and won't breed herWhat a sad life lol.
>>536389825So you just make up your own reality based on what? Fictional movies and stories?
>>536388874>wageslaveWhat is the historical average wage of a slave and how does it compare to the salary of the modern jannie who sits around posting INCEL threads on 4chan all day?
>>5363888742026 wageslaves have it far worse.
the average wage slave wouldn't last a week as a medieval serf
>>536389582You live in BRAZIL. Latin American women are much higher quality and have much lower standards than American women do. Hell, the incel problem is mostly an American and Jeet problem anyways. If Euro incels actually tried, they could get pussy much easier than their American counterpart.
>>536392333The Black Plague culled so many people that the ones that survived had insanely high living standards afterwards.Hell, I would say that apart from modern medicine, peasants didn't live very bad. William Shakespeare grew up in a LARGE home to a family of glovemakers. They had livestock too and grew vegetables.
>>536388874Who has more changes to pass on his genes, that is the winner, always.The wageslave may live like a medieval king, but if he is a genetic dead-end, it doesn't matter.
>>536394281>The wageslave may live like a medieval kingLololol. I always here this. No, wagies still live worse than Medieval kings.Does a wagie have a plethora of hot women to fuck at his disposal? No.Can a wagie host a banquet every night featuring peacock and other exotic shit? No.Can the wagie sit on his ass while servants bathe him? No.
>>536394281>Muh genes!Australopithecus retard, you're not living thought your descendants so who cares
>>536389534LMAO yeah teenagers didn't have hormones back then ig. oh wait i bet you believe that they married 11 year olds too right? LMFAOOOO
>>536395216Through*
>>536389582yes, american men are pathetic whiny children, work 1 part time job and live with their parents, and shitpost on 4chan all day about what a catch they are and how the modern world is so unfair because they can't fuck an 11 year old anime character.
>>536388874Depends if the modern wageslave is an incel or not>medieval serf married a virgin woman>fucks her every day when he comes home from the field>gets crippled at the ripe age of 40 by some disease we can easily treatVS>wagie goes to work 8h per day>turns 40 without feeling the inside of a vagina>dies from alcoholism or OD's
>>536388874Lifestyle wise the serfs.Work hours wise modern wagies.
>>536395447the persistent myth of loyal virgin wives is the most hilarious cope you retards have
>>536395506More like you're coping like a faggot>I can't find a virgin wife therefore nobody didI know people IRL who married virgins, it's just a lot less likely today
>>536394281>The wageslave may live like a medieval kingYes waking up with an alarm clock and doing 8 hours of mundane tasks you hate while getting 0 pussy is what a medieval king would experience
>>536388874their kids didn't sit still for hours in silence and could play for hours anywhere so i say they were more free than the modern wageslave's familly
>>536395458depends on the work but most modern wagies actually work more hours than a serf
>>536388874>damn my horse drawn plow keeps popping up when it hits a root, what can i do!?!?>put a rock on it milord
>>536395756If you work 8h you work more than a serfAnd the serf was almost guaranteed marriage while the modern wagecuck just beats his dick
>>536389091primae noctum was a made up history invented by the french revolutionaries to enrage the massesThe french nobility were catholics and such an act will made them target for excommunication by the church
>they thoughtlmao read the accounts of jean d'arc's town on how their teenage youths used to have a literal festival where they'd move to the outskirts to celebrate and bang and jean was a "good girl" because she spent her time praying instead.Virgin wives is such a meme
>>536395992How many hours did you work this week?
>>536396065memeflag retard virginity was prized back then even in a degenerate shithole like Europe + they married teenagerswhat's with the feminist history revisionism?
>>536396093brainwashed wagie detected
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>>536395216>Life is optionalLmao, too bad your parents didn't thought the same.
>>536389236Which people?
>>536389489Thats the complete opposite of what hollykikes are doing though. They hate medieval Europe with a passion. Why are you lying?
>>536395672>>536394627Agree on the 0 pussy, but I'm sure that being a medieval king was a lot harder and stressful than 8 hours of office work, your or others life are not on the line, and you don't have any real responsibilities.
>>536396268>memeflag retard virginity was prizedfor noble shits who didn't represent 0.01% of the population>history revisionismI'm literally citing vatican witness accounts from literal peasants from the year 1200. Fucking GOOGLE how d'arc got her sentence post-humously nulled.
>>536388874 >have terrible tooth ache >have to go to the blacksmith because specialized doctors don't exist >he removes it without anesthesia I don't know how this is even a competition. Even the poorest of you Anons live a way better and more luxurious live than the most powerful emperors in medieval times did.
>>536394281Truke
>>536394627wagies are pathetic they dont have anything in life except wooorking for their masters
>>536397018Yeah, modern medicine is the only thing that I wouldn't want to give up about modern times. But you live in Switzerland, you are Elites' place to flee to when SHTF
>>536397018Barber surgeon were the specialized doctors for this
>>536397346I don't speak Hindi. Can you translate that mess to English?
>>5363888742026 wageslave has it worse 100x. It's like asking if water is wet.
>>536388874Modern wage slaves unfortunately choose their position in life due to having unlimited access to the internet to learn skills, different ideas, and different approaches for what to do in life yet actively being in alignment with the choice to become a wagie despite all of this. The fate of a wage slave is bad, but they've curated their identity around this misery despite existing in a world with alternatives. A medieval serf has little alternatives save for escaping & turning to banditry, but their existence is also less harsh than that of a modern wage slave (depending on both time period & region of course, an English serf had it as good as peasants while a Russian serf had a rather hellish existence). So which is better.. to be offered alternatives yet refuse to be open enough to accept anything different than the comforting routine of misery, or have no alternatives yet be less miserable than others in the future?
>>536389091No, that was a meme made by hollywood
>>536388874Medieval serf has it WAAAY worse>earns a pittance>Lives in a mud hut with thatch roof and dirt floor>Works 4 or 5 days a week all day or has to farm, which is basically 24/7 and give at least half of his crop to his Lord>What is healthcareWaaaaah we have to pay for healthcare in America. Fucking pay the minimum you must to get the thing fixed then let the bill go to collections and never fucking pay. I make $200k a year and have paid a total of $13k in total for 3 kids>If your Lord has a squabble with a neighboring Lord, you and your sons are required to go to battle, in whatever position the Lord demands>If the king goes to war, same thing but worse, further from home, etc>50% of your children will die before 5yo.>Your wife has a 20% chance of dying in childbirth>You're fed what ever religion they have to feed you and you are not allowed to even know what other options there are>You may get more holidays but they're just more cooking and playing around the village...no travel really>Cooking is an ordeal. Making and cooking over a fire is a time consuming event>Water quality is pretty shitty>No real education>No AC, cars, vidya, books, etc....At least in modern world you have opportunity. If you want to complain about it all and pretend life was better when starvation was a real, constant threat and disease was ubiquitous, go for it but you're wrong
>>536398989Except... Wagies try to not be wagies but they can't because any kind of business is saturated as fuck. You are not going to compete online with a 3rd worlder from a tropical country because they can live like a king on what you pay just for your rent alone.
>>536395506This. Seriously.Imagine you're ugly and there's no one helping you find a wife. Then you have to get lucky and convince a girl in your village that you're a better choice than Chadwick. So then you're 30, unmarried, forced out of your parent's root-cellar and sitting alone wondering what went wrong Oh and because you live in a village in 1400s or whatever, the only tits you e ever seen were your mother's when she was changing when you were 16. They weren't great and it's your mom but it's all you have I wish time travel was real so we could send the incels back
>>536399239What percentage of Americans make $200K or more? Search, then you will understand why you are an exception and not a rule.
>>536395698I homeschool my children because I'm not a shit father. My wife took the kids to the park this morning and we will go for a swim this afternoon.If you send your kids to learn how to sit quietly and be a drone, that's on you
>>536388874peasants were treated like shit and had no real status in society. they worked less sure, but their work wasn't exactly easy like many jobs today. you mf complain about working 40 hours a week at a piss easy office job.
Most of the advantages solely come from superior technological level. Most of the posters ITT are the same kind of retards saying the 90s sucked because there was no GTA VI or some retarded shit like that
>>536399722Not everyone has the ability to homeschool their kids. Most have to send them to school because it's free daycare essentially.
>>536399599Obviously I know that. You know why? Because I did the work required to find a well paying career, then worked my way into a position to make that kind of money. I didn't go to university and throw money in the trash. I made my way and I was NEET until age 29. If I can do it - suicidal thoughts and no outside help - anyone can
>>5363888742026 is far worse.
>>536388874is prima nocta in effect?
>>536399877>their work wasn't exactly easy like many jobs todayExcept, there's Amazon workers that have to lift and pull packages weighing 50 lbs, some times forced to do this for 12 hours even at 3AM, then get to sleep for a little, then back to wageslaving. Not every American has an easy office job, dumb nigger.>>536399948>Because I did the work required to find a well paying careerLet me guess>You were a NEET at 29 in 2010 where a pulse and an interest in programming could get you a SWE job
>>536399940That's true in Europe because it's actually illegal in some places. But in the 1st world everyone has the opportunity to homeschool their kids. If you think having a nicer house or more products is more important than your children then again, that's on you.I would live in a trailer and eat ramen before sending my kids to public school. I'd kill every other kid in town to protect my kids
>>536400170You guessed wrong. Like everything else in your life. I'm in construction management
>>536389217serfs were tied to the land, no one really owned them. it's useless to compare things to slavery. they weren't chattel. you can slippery slope yourself into believing everything was slavery.
>>536399381>wagies try not to be wagies>business is saturatedNo, wagies very much choose to be where they are because their identities are oriented around being wagies. You even alluded to this in your own post by stating that wagies "try" to not be wagies by applying at oversaturated businesses (which is the exact line of action that a wagie takes, passively hoping for the world around himself to change in order for his own life to change instead of being active). Wagies do not attempt to do anything except for passively hoping for wage-based labor generously offered by a company they personally have no jurisdiction over; it's an inherently uncreative habit of learned powerlessness that leads them exactly where they are in life. It never occurs to them that they must become different people entirely, and take different actions, to produce different results. Instead they believe that with enough "hard work" (doing the same line of action over & over again, expending 110% of their effort into it) they may somehow alter their own circumstances despite doing absolutely nothing different.
>>536400246Europeans don't need to worry about sending their kids to public school because their public school was built in 1860, only a kilometer away with sidewalks, and even the few token migrants are better-behaved than the average white trash Cletus of Muttmerica.>>536400283I don't know, that's pretty accurate from all of the people on here who say they make large sums of money. I also got NO debt either and only 20, so I can't be exactly "wrong" about my life
>>536399239Serfs didn't go into battle, on the contrary it was the duty of the lord to protect them.
>>536388874I'd say wageslaves, the only real thing serfs had to worry about was if those men on horses come back this summer. While we're well.. just look around.
>>536400396>American wagie who can animate really well or program tries online to sell skills>Rajeesh who pays $100/month for rent can do $5 because he can eat for 3 days on that>Wagie tries a cheap in-person business (he has very little capital)>No one is going to hire him because people can cut their own grass or hire someone with better equipment to do it (with other services)In reality, the only non-saturated businesses all need millions in capital. The median savings of a 30 year old American is only $5K. That's not fucking happening.
The serf lived a hard life but it was a purposeful, natural, organic life. The wage slave lives a life that is none of the above. For their toil and misery they get DoorDashed slop bowls.
>>536400923>Muh hiringPeak wagie mentality, needing others to hand you positions instead of marketing yourself. Your entire line is thinking is why wagies exist; change your thinking, then your actions change.
>>536388874I'd much rather be a wagie than die of cholera/disintery/pox or an infection from scratching my hand on a random object
>>536401073>marketing yourselfHow does that work?? I just fucking said that no one is going hire him. Are you ESL?? Hire in this case is "pay him for his services", not "work for someone else's business". There's no better marketing than price by the way, that's why Rajeesh wins while Amerimutt wages are falling, because kikes always want the absolute cheapest prices.And no, I'm not a kike or a Jeet. This is just a realization of how people work. It's why no one really likes Made in America BS because it may be only 20% better but cost 3 times more.
>>536388874Serfs lol you are retarded. Lords own you and your ass. You can lose your kids and wife because your lord wants to fuck and then sell them
>>536389236Money decides in democracy not people.
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>>536401462serfs couldn't be sold. you basically bonded yourself for life to the lord of a specific place. you became tied to that place regardless of lord.
>>536388874I eat meat every day, live in a 1800sq ft house, and don't work the land.You're not going to make it, zoomie.
