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I thought you guys were joking, but it really does seem like it's over for relationships with the younger generations. What happened?
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They raised children wrong as a joke.
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>>536391015
The destruction of the family unit was Tikkun Olam's greatest "success"
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Gender wars, ridiculously high standards, men don't have jobs, focusing on careers as a cope
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>>536391015
>shame is no longer used to limit a woman's desire to be a slut
>modern media glorifies slut behavior
>women are given preference by governments and no longer need a man for financial support
>men are demonized for their natural instincts
>men are ridiculed, shamed, and slandered to limit their independence
>men are shunned by society for calling out the bluff

We let women's darkest desires run rampant and crushed the male spirit to compensate.
Its a war on two fronts, except the men realized they don't need to fight & just decided to walk off.
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>>536391015
I'm 34, single, childless. Every LTR ended with them cheating and lying about it. I don't feel like going through that shit again desu, pussy costs €100 an hour
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>>536391250
>How do you like my face to your fist style!?
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>>536391522
How are you getting Romanian rates on Germuttistan salaries lmao. Fucking hate this country man.
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>>536391522
>LTR
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>>536391015
kikes, social media and smartphones.
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>>536391015
my zoomer friends have gfs. idk if they’re happy though. i’m just a neet
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>>536391522
>pussy costs €100 an hour
what about the fact those hookers have to fuck everyone including turks, blacks and frenchmen. disgusting.
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>>536391250
>be gen X/Milennial
>teach your children sex is extremelly taboo and bad
>teach your daughters pregnancies are equal death, and babies are mini-sized Hitlers
>teach them that being parents is the worst thing ever (because they can't fuck niggers at parties anymore)
>raise them like puppies, protected from all risks and no independency
Then wonders why their children won't reproduce and act like teenagers while being 25
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>>536391673
yeah dude I actually wanted to raise children in a stable household, shocker.
Chasing pussy is berrypicker as fuck, I just started to avoid flirtation with (((women))) altogether.
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Delusional ideas ingrained in childhood are extremely harmful, and can take many decades to overcome, long enough for it being too late. This includes gender norms and gender equality.
Additionally an excessive exposure to society is harmful, because a) society is shit, and b) children/teenagers are ignorant shitheads. But this isn't the only damage social media did, as they divorce people from their immediate environment and induce further unrealistic expectations, present too many alternatives, and cripple skills necessary for in-person interaction.
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>>536391864
A noble ambition. Sorry the world turned out to be the way it is.
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>>536391733
>turks, blacks and frenchmen
iam sure they are more clean then germans xD

one german sailmen goes to a hooker in roterdam, he asks how much for blowjob ?
she say 10 euros
he says okay
hookers sucks sucks sucks and it wont get hard, she ask him if hes impotent
he says no, and its clean enough, bye!
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social media is contributing to this. relationships require privacy to take root. everything is out in the open now, and performative. there are tremendous pressures for how to conform to standards for what a good relationship looks like, robbing the couple of their authentic, private reality replacing it with a commodified, social fiction.
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>>536391464
>decided to walk off
Or bide their time untill the day of reckoning, which will come.
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>>536391015
Women have all the power and leverage and men have none, so men checked out. Men don't want to play a game they can't win and that women can't lose. Hell it's worse than that, it doesn't just make sure men can't win, men are actively subjected to humiliation for trying to win. There's only so much shit men can eat before they lose their appetite.
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>>536391464
It's this.

Feminism has been a disaster for the West. And it isn't a "third wave" feminism problem. It's ALL waves of feminism that are the problem. It started with giving women the right to vote. We need to keep repeating this until enough men understand.
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>>536391619
Presumably your whores came here?
But due to oversupply, notably thanks to Ukrainians, prices dropped.
In a way it's not a bad thing, because now this means being a whore in Romania is equally profitable, and possibly with less competition, meaning your hooker stock should experience equal growth, instead of everyone jumping the fence for supposedly greener pastures.
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>>536391015
it's not over browns will simply replace you
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>>536392778
Get the fuck out of my country jeet.
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>>536392867
learn to read retard
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>>536391522
>>536391619
>>536392765
€100/h is insanely expensive, that'd cost you 3-4k a month just for hanging out a bit every weekend plus on a Wednesday once pw
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>>536392778
>>536392867
>>536392935
terroni
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>>536391782
Very few millennials have 25 year old kids you retarded nigger
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>>536392935
>Literally calls for browns to replace whites
>"Learn to read"
Learn to speak.

>>536393010
Arrivato il siciliano che si finge polentone.
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>>536392596
This isn't quite right, because you can still win, but the definition of win has changed.
>different slut on your cock every week
It's not hard to get laid by any means, but it's virtually impossible, or even undesirable, to have proper relationships, including friendships, with the people you encounter in a typical real-life setting.
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>>536391579
>now let's try my nuts to your kick style!
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>>536391289
Christianity was adopted by Rome to specifically destroy families. And really the war against family units has been going on for 10,000 years at least
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>>536392977
It varies, of course, and also depends on where exactly the hooker works, how many hours, and whether she likes you or not.
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>>536393357
>Christianity was adopted by Rome to specifically destroy families.
Adam Green-tier bullshit theory.
>10,000 years at least
Longer than that. Though it started with them raping and eating said family units.
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>>536393357
American History Xpert strikes again?
Rome had troubles with collapsing birth rates well before Christianity went mainstream, and it definitely didn't reduce birthrates further, especially with that "be fruitful and multiply" thing.
One look on the graph will illustrate that the birthrate collapse in the West overlaps closely with the general decline in religiosity, and while obviously this isn't the only, or even central, factor, cultural norms in general played a major role, and have steadily eroded in the same timeframe.
These days the religious girls are pretty much the only ones that can still be convinced to breed before they're 35, besides the utterly irresponsible ones, that is, who may not have done it on purpose, and will almost certainly have no more than 1, at best 2, children, unless they're brown and use them as welfare tokens.
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>>536393357
You should read up on pre-Christian roman familial structure and mores.
It was quite the opposite of your trad fantasy and more akin to modern day reddit american families.

>>536393263
Ok, point being is prositution doesn't substitute a relationship. Even the shittiest relationship with a 5/5 you have to simp for and possibly provide for is a better deal financially speaking.
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>>536392452
Bingo. Game rigged against me? Cool. I won’t play anymore. Shrimple as. Just gonna sit back and watch the rigged rules burn down the entire game
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>>536393357
It's a bit the opposite. Christianity was able to supplant the Roman religion because Roman women weren't having children anymore.
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>>536393094
literally I don't faggot.
I expressed the reality of our situation not the endorsement
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But right, has anyone even mentioned "diversity". Absolutely fatal shit.
>when 50-80% of your classroom is brown
Instant -80% chance of native procreation. If you can still call it native at that point.
And the brownoids obviously will pop out as many shitlets as possible, meaning a vast segment of society will need to be eradicated, including women and children, which is part of the purpose behind this strategy.
It's not difficult to exterminate 10% of the population that is male guest workers and the like, but gassing 50%, of which the majority is women and children is harder, and once the tipping point is passed you'd have to exterminate 80% of the latest generation or more.
And this is before we factor in also exterminating those responsible.
May need to resort to implementing a caste system instead.
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so tiresome
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I don't want to try woman after woman before finding one that isn't crazy. I don't want to do that.
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>>536392977
>€100/h is insanely expensive, that'd cost you 3-4k a month just for hanging out a bit every weekend plus on a Wednesday once pw
You're either horrible at math, or a retard that spends half a fucking day with a hooker every time he sees one.
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>>536393774
A "relationship" isn't guaranteed to be a cure either, or last. What is expected of men is to become a chad playa and just bang random hoes, then dump them, or use hookup apps to maul an endless supply of thirsty femoids.
>in other words to become part of the problem
We'll see whether Gen Z and beyond will even follow the usual millennial trajectory, of settling with used goods in their 30s or 40s, when it's essentially too late. I have my doubts.
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>>536394431
We are talking about substituting a relationship with a woman with seeing prostitutes.
I kept my estimate as low as possible with a baseline of 8h/w of prostitute gf experience.
Something like paying her to hang out for a measly 6h on the weekend (no sleepover bc too expensive) and having a 2h quickie on a wednesday
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>>536394201
This also means drastic economic collapse is by now inevitable in the heavily infested European countries, and while questionable how bad this really is, or for whom, it will need to be accounted for, meaning it would be wise to stock up massive amounts of nuclear weapons to solve the economic issue globally, and pay your dues to globalism. 50% of your population will need to die anyway, one way or other. So nuclear retaliation would be like
>don't threaten me with a good time
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>>536391015
Young men don't have the financial resources now as they did 10+ years ago.
Women cost men resources.
What does a man get by expending money/resources on a woman?
Does the woman make the man's life more peaceful?
Does the woman make the man's life more joyful? More stable? More fulfilling?
Or does the woman drain the man emotionally, or make his life less peaceful?
What else could a man be spending his resources, his time, his money, his energy on besides a woman?
If women are more hassle than they're worth, men won't bother chasing them.
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>>536392375
This. Everyone that I know in a happy, stable relationship, myself included, does not use social media at all.
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>>536391782
>>be gen X/Milennial
>>teach your children sex is extremelly taboo and bad
What genXers were teaching their kids sex was taboo???
Fucking pajeets need to be removed from the Internet.
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>>536394201
If you want to end diversity, destroy the welfare state and tank the kike economy. Brownoids can't eat grass or photosynthesize, they need a pre-existing supply chain to spoon-feed them. Whites can return to the land more easily than shitskins, especially the worthless gutter runoff the West is getting. None of these orkoid creatures would last more than a month or two without gibs.
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>>536391733
Well in the USA most whores won't fuck niggers.
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>>536395167
There is a solution to that particular problem: pick fights. But not end of the world fights, fights that are juuuust serious enough to warrant makeup sex but not egregious enough to lead to her whoring around.
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>>536393774
>Even the shittiest relationship with a 5/5 you have to simp for and possibly provide for is a better deal financially speaking.
???
Pay a prostitute for an hour, she leaves.
Buy 5/10 gf food, meals, take her places, invest time and emotional energy, for low chance of return of physical or emotional intimacy.
How much is a man's time worth???
Pay a prostitute for an hour or two, then she goes away, as opposed to spending 5-6 hours with a gf and the risk of getting neither emotional or physical intimacy.
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>>536394506
This is why Islam is so powerful.
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>>536395234
Yeah, I was just beginning to think what the most conservative solution would be now, or in the near term. It will be virtually impossible to fix in 20 years without causing a nuclear winter.

>ban immigration from culturally or racially incompatible states entirely
>revoke/block citizenship of anybody not native enough
>no free/subsidized access to services, no payments, no handouts to noncitizens by the state in any form whatsoever while still taxing them
>draconic criminal penalties for noncitizens engaging in crime
And put it all into the constitution.
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>>536395603
What kind of relationships did you have where your gf has a "low chance to return physical and emotional intimacy".
It sounds like you just made up an extreme strawman in your mind in order to prop up a losing alternative.
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>>536395363
reddit was so based at one point in time it's a shame what they did to it
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Any realistic proposals how to actually fix society, gender relations, social norms, and so on?
It's a lot more tricky than fixing the immigration issue.
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>>536393263
this
let the simpcucks play the committment "game"
and have enough leverage to make sure you own her while cukito pays the bills
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>>536394670
>wanting to hang out with a woman and listen to women speak outside of sex

lol
lmao even
I've calculated that weekly sex with college students comes to about $18000 USD or 15000 euro per year, and if you're tight on budget or busy or bored you can stop and start any time
A girlfriend or wife EASILY has higher maintenance costs
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>>536395834
>sounds like you just made up an extreme strawman in your mind in order to prop up a losing alternative.
...or I'm just listening to what the majority of men are saying these days.
You said even a shitty gf is worth more than a prostitute, and that statement is totally oblivious to what the majority of men are finding out a gf costs now.
For cost vs time, the value of women as a gf has deteriorated so much a prostitute is a better deal.
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>>536395834
the more time you commit to a hole the less access you keep to it
it's a universal law
because by staying you prove your lack of value
whores are paid to leave, but simps pay to stay and not get their balls drained
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Hookers are 3rd world ape behavior and you could get a permanent skin to skin STD to boot. Oh and settle for a condom half ass orgasm too. People pushing that on this site are degenerate ugly brown skins
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>>536391015
5g, birth control, benzos, social media, it's a long list. The world will end with whites. God damn you all to hell.
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>>536394201
>And this is before we factor in also exterminating those responsible.
that's the only extermination that's needed
strike the root
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>>536391015
same thing that happened on the first Feminian Sandstones (aka Babylon)
same thing that happened when Athens gave women the right to vote, and they voted for Persia to destroy their city to teach their men a lesson
same thing that happened when Rome let women lead, and the first thing they did was open the gates of Rome to the Visigoths
every time women are given rights, they will choose to destroy all men built, and proudly
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>>536393540
While that cuck is wrong. Always remember this is some sandnigger desert tier shit.
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>>536391015
You're a cunt that what happened
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>>536397025
I'm getting some help it's called I don't give a fuck about what you think
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>>536395177
Indians are the biggest retarded autistic shitskins I know. Not even joking. Theyre cucks compared to all the races and the Indian girls love white cock like its the dure for world wide cancer. No hate, I'm just speaking the truth.
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>>536396734
what men? sexhaver coworkers venting about their partners? /r9gay/?
By this token, most boomers were extremely unhappy about their marriage and not getting any, either.

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>>536396785
ok now this is just straight up incelposting and I see no further benefit in continuing the conversation
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>>536396080
He sounds like a cuck. I fuck my girl hard. While she's plugged and after that I take her ass. She cooks me dinner afterwards and thanks me for it. You can't be weak around these ho's. Half of the shit he stated would be taken care of if he had balls.
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>>536395100
which is why she must never feel safe with you
only limited, conditionl safety that can be lost at any moment
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>>536391015
Constant sex is majority of the time a low IQ low impulse control activity.
After awhile the act becomes mundane.
Men that rave on about having sex constantly are normally sad shells of human beings easily manipulated by the fairer sex.
Take this from somebody that’s had more than enough sex in his lifetime and has realized with women the juice is certainly not worth the squeeze.
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>>536397025
and yet the end results of the "fake scenario" keep happening, and you will never understand why
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>>536391015
They get enough dopamine from scrolling so they don’t need each other anymore.
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>>536391015

Are you retarded anon?

There's literally no way to study this, however you believe it anyway.
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>>536396848
I fucked a skinny 19 year old with big tits as a 5'8 male in his 30s who's facially a 5/10 on a good day. I'm invisible to women and have been my whole life. My statusmatch in modern dating is a fat single mom with mental problems, but thanks to the whorepill I can taste teenage pussy I'd never realistically pull in this lifetime.

In other countries prostitution isn't as seedy and criminalized as the US. I paid $400/h, yes a premium, for a girl who's very low volume and new to the industry. A bar girl probably had higher chance of STDs. Insanely hot young girls are mispriced because 1) they're usually dumb as shit, too young to weaponize their beauty properly, or have family problems 2) puritans like you refuse to pay for sex = less demand. There's a steady influx of young hot but stupid girls joining every day and even if you become a gross old man you can fuck prime women forever. It's awesome.
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>>536397208
you're young
you're answering to a marriage topic by "herr fuck her harder"
you havent evolved beyond neanderthal
your argument is missing the mark
"fucking hard" works for non committal encounters or "relationships" only
if sex is the glue between two people, it is by nature chaotic and prevents long term commitment
your girl may be all cooing but that's because she's grooming you into turning you into a committed guy
if you ever commit then the game changes
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anti natalist chads ALWAYS win in the end
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>>536391015
I have 4 teenagers 1 son 3 daughters only my son has ever been on a date. They have zero interest in it.
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>>536397173
>now this is just straight up incelposting
in the internet age you cannot get a female to commit to you, it isnt happening unless you are that guy she cheats upon her simpcuck with and that's not exactly commitment either, is it
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>>536395587
yeah its kind of crazy how you realize this after being in a relationship for a while, that you almost have to do stupid shit like this to keep a woman entertained. go along with arguments, press them on things, then suddenly be non chalant to piss them off. hot-cold back n forth.

they need conflict, drama, emotional expansion and release, uncertainty, over and over. it does make for awesome makeup sex but the whole thing is tiring and fucking annoying
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Seems like it boils down to some mixture of National Socialism and Islam.
>reinforce proper gender norms, behaviour and realistic expectations starting in preschool
>ban all forms of mollycoddling and quotas, enforce uniform and appropriate standards
>school uniforms and penalties for all pretentious bullshit
>completely revamped education curriculum, partly sex segregated
With exclusive subjects for either. More militarized, with mandatory combat sports, for men, and a greater focus on fitness in general. Femoids learn to cook, sing, dance, whatever.
>mandatory extracurricular activities, some geared towards male-female interactions
>ban on degenerate and social media under 21 years of age, other media curated to keep kikes out
>unbiased grading , employment, divorce settlements, social services and dynamic retirement age based on life expectancy, life history and career
>dramatic incentives for motherhood and stable marriage
>ban women under 40 from certain professions and certain power relationships, ban men from female-only professions
>One party state, pass exam to obtain voting rights (at any age)
>put subversives and degenerates into labor/reeducation camps, whores into whorehouses
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>>536392741
True. Infact I'd say the 3rd wave was positive in as much as it divided women on the issue of no longer having a vagina pass in society and redpilled normal males to the issue, while marking the most dangerous proponents of the ideology visually and behaviourally.

Its worth noting though that, despite all the apparent rejection of extreme far left female supremacist narratives, no woman alive would give up an inch of the special privileges foids have carved out for themselves. The entire society will need to collapse before things revert and even then, women will have zero accountability for the damage they did.

Interesting observation from the collapse of Russia and the bolchevic revolution whose name escapes me, was that all the men would need to be destitute, starving and completely subjugated before the women stopped buying a new fur coat each year. I think the modern equivalent for that would be handbags and face creams.
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>>536391289
Jewish day school is obviously garbage!!!

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

There goes myth about Israel High IQ

can You guys see where is Iran?
Even Lebanon is Higher!

Yeah...
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>>536391015
Millennials are already this old and out of touch? lol. No one "dates" or has "relationships" anymore. You hang out and you fuck. And sometimes there's a person you hang out with and fuck several times over an extended period of time. I get the elderly people on this board might think that's dating/relationships, but no one calls it that. If you ask a girl "have you ever had a relationship" she will say "no" even though she's been with five different guys, some of which she stayed with for months on end, because "we never really put a label on things". If you ask a guy if he's ever been on a date he will say "no" because he never asked the girl he's fucking to "go on a date." It's not the 1950s where you take a girl to the local diner and buy her a milkshake or whatever the fuck millennials did lmao.
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>>536398778
My brother did the trad still with his dance, but theyre devout catholics
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>>536398778
That's how the communists originally wanted it to work.
Make of that what you will.
Also, a boy and girl hanging out technically is a date, unless they're 10 years old, and doing it all the time, to the relative exclusion of doing the same with someone else, is dating.
Wait until you learn how the laws work in some places. If such a thing results in offspring you'll be charged alimony later.
>and they won't check whether the kid is yours
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>>536391015
>What happened?
Cellphones.

If a woman goes down relationship rabbitholes all the time while doomscrolling she will be brainwashed to have unrealistic standards when it comes to the opposite sex. Since most men can never live up to these standards she will be disappointed and disillusioned.
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>>536393357
>Christianity was adopted by Rome to specifically destroy families.

Funniest post I've seen in awhile.
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>>536391721
Doesn't mean it will work out for them or they will have kids together.
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Who gives a shit?
Let society crash and burn and mankind die out.
Can spice it up by going full nuclear war but then I'd feel sorry for the animals that has no part in the retardation of mankind.
Either way, fuck mankind. Wipe us out!
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>>536400302
what happened to the empire when christians went from weird periphery cultists to citizens and senators, go read it up, i'll wait
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Jewish media, social media, and education ruined all the women. Now what they all want, is totally disjointed from what is both realistic and being offered.
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>>536391015
I gave up, sorry. Women are simply insufferable and waaaay too much work for zero reward. If you are in it for the pussy it's not worth it.
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>>536395435
Because most of them are niggers themselves
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>>536391619
Germans won big. Mog us all. Our only move left is to move in with them. Our whores already have.

>>536392977
Smartest shitalian.
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>>536391015
because they think someone is watching them
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>>536391782
there are 2 ways to have stable birth rates:

1. total free for all = broken families, single mothers, hypergamy, violent society = africa
2. enforced monogamy = marry young, severe punishment for adultery and divorce, stable families, punished degeneracy = most advanced civilizations

right now we are all headed for africa tier societies



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