Why can't they leave me alone ? I'm not bothering anyone. Nobody get harmed with this thing.
neck yourself pedo
>>536432010It’s because you’re sick. But don’t worry, they are coming to cure you as we speak. Do not struggle when they arrive.
>>536432010Strict laws regarding faker things make it easier for Jews to blackmail your government officials, because even the threat of planting it on law-abiding officials can get them to fall in line.
>>536432010He was using legitimate kids for ai to make porn. This ain't a loli case. This guy was a legit pedophile.
>>536432261it's messed up and he shouldn't be allowed to teach kids but I don't like the idea of imprisoning someone for what they do on the privacy of their own computerAI is just better photoshop
>>536432010Don’t bother coming here. This place is now a #MeToo feminist support group full of cock blockers and castrators.
>>536432347ThisHalf the posters are women incapable of nuance or discussion
>>536432346I agree but he knew the risk when he was doing this shit. Stupid enough to get caught, stupid enough to serve the time. How did he get caught? What were the series of event that even caused him to share his art? AI is a tool like any other.
>>536432010Because you're disgusting.
>>536432010You voted for it.
>>536432010child porn is like the weakest crime you can do in JapanYou get exiled from society if you commit tax fraud though and become untouchable
>>536432240This. You're not a turbo nerd and the jury won't be either. They can plant that shit and your ISP will just say anything the glowniggers tell them to say. You'll never be able to prove shit. Nobody really understands digital "evidence" except a few turbo nerds. The boomer judge that can't connect a printer will just ask the DA "Uhhhh... is this legit?" and rubber stamp whatever they shove in his face
>>536432347>>536432416>why doesn't society allow me, someone who gets off to the idea of undressing, touching, and raping children, to be left alone in a room with children and become their authority figure. hurr durr feminismHonestly, if you really are "not harming anyone", then sure you do you. Doesn't mean people have to permit you to get into situations where people of your kind are liable to cause harm.
>>536432642Make sure you never play Call of Duty® because you might go out in murder people in real life with your rocket launcher.
>>536432346>I don't like the idea of imprisoning someone for what they do on the privacy of their own computerNeither do I, but we live in late stage democracy times, privacy is no longer a right even if it is a constitutional right, and the current conservative wave loves to police morality and jail people for thought crimes.
>>536432010Holy fuck, it's over. They're banning loli next. Japan was the last bastion of freedom for cunny enthusiasts. I guess the puritans won.>>5364321714chan was created because moot wanted a place to post his loli, fuck off tourist.
>>536432642>BahrainYour prophet fucked a 9 year old lol
>>536432010Except your mind & soulAll porno is gay porno
There's a difference between an obvious cartoon and a hyper realistic AI generation.
I have no sympathy for sloppers because you fags spammed your shit all over the internet even when told to stop being annoying.
>>536432171sure, but he asked why. Why can't you answer? Nature compels that you give a reason, instead of acting like a nigger or other subhuman animal.
>>536432240Nice try, pedo. If they can plant any picture, then why wouldn't they plant the real cp?You think jews would not?
>>536433766Why? The thesis is there is no actual victim. Arguing AI porn should be illegal because it looks real is like arguing horror film gore should be illegal.
>>536432217>because you’re sickThat's only to construct synonyms, and, it's not a reason why.For example, in Mexico they have sick cattle, but you don't bother the sick cattle of Mexico - why not? Because your "reasoning" is that of a liar, or a catholic, but catholics are damned to hell, and out of their demonic faces spews lie upon lie.
>>536432010I feel you lolicon bro.
>>536433540how do I preserve it for posterity without looking like a lolicon?
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>>536432010They call whites and japs the most civilized ones but they are also the ones most inclined to engage in p3d0fillya. Really makes you think.
>>536433890Because it freaks people out. Child safety is something everyone supports. Pedos jerking off to drawings, is gross. So you lose, tranny.
>>536434080>Somebody think of the children!
>>536433890“what about the children?” and “but pedophiles!” are two of the strongest emotional triggers they can use to push dystopian laws to take away your rights. So naturally these get used a lot.Meanwhile, actual pedophiles like Dutroux or Epstein or the muslims in the UK and the UK police officers, politicians, Mr Savile, etc are protected because they’re part of the elite.
>>536432946If I discovered that you regularly masturbated to the idea of killing people with a rocket launcher, and jailbroke an AI specifically to have it make content of you killing people with a rocket launcher, I probably would not deem it wise to permit you to come close to rocket launchers.>>536433596Not everyone here is muslim retard. Unironically pedoniggers can no longer say Mohammed is a pedo for doing that. He was a based anti-feminist freethinker apparently.
>>536434183Unironically, yes. Humans are hardwired to protect children. You're an aberration.
>>536434221>to take away your rightsYou don't have a right to jerk off to drawn cp. That's not a thing.
>>536434080You got something there extremely wrong.First Child Safety is an NPC meme, no one cares about child safety, not even the parents of children care about child safety.Yes sure everyone makes a scandal over CP, but children are often victims of all kinds of violence that leave them psychologically traumatized for life and are culturally accepted. No one cares about children well being.No one cares when parents beat their children sometimes to death.No one cares when courts force children into adoption to LGBT parents.No one cares when children face violence at school ( just grow up and learn to defend yourself bro )No one cares about children having to live with castrating parents.No one cares about children facing religious indoctrination or religious terror.No one cares about super intelligent children having to survive public school battlegrounds because they dont have the money to go to a better school.No one cares about the absurd amount of children living in poverty.No one cares about the children being raised by single mums wihout any paternal figureCould go on.>Pedos jerking off to drawings, is gross.Muh feelings>Because it freaks people out.People freaking out over a moral panic or your feels is hardly a basis of condemning someone for a thought-crime.First legalize thought-crime, then you can jail people.
>>536434544>o one cares about child safety, not even the parents of children care about child safety.That's a lie. Of course people care. Your parents didn't care for you? They let you get molested?
>>536433890>The thesis is there is no actual victimHow about the actual real child he used as source material you fucking retard?
The right question is how AI is able to generate this in the first place
Availability to violent porn decreases incidences of violent sexual assault. Availability of child porn (real, not ai nor 2d) decreases incidences of child sexual assault. Of course, under the logic of re-victimization, it makes sense for people to want to ban possession of the real stuff. However there is no good argument behind the fictional stuff beyond "it's gross".>>536433890The only real argument could be made eventually that realistic 3dcg might waste investigative efforts. If you could prove you made it that could be one thing, but other people would be downloading / sharing stuff they thought was real / could be real stuff passed off as fake. The police wouldn't be able to know which was real and needed takedown to protect them defacto (under revictimization logic) vs fake.>>536434221It's what they're currently using to restrict vpn usage in the UK.
European movies used to put capricious scenes of nude children in their movies. Why did they start to become such puritans around 2000?
>>536434237>If I discovered that you regularly masturbated to the idea of killing people with a rocket launcher, and jailbroke an AI specifically to have it make content of you killing people with a rocket launcher, I probably would not deem it wise to permit you to come close to rocket launchers.So your logic is that if a person plays racing games and watches fast and furious movies then they should not be allowed to own a car because they might use a vehicle to go full speed on the streets and kill someone.Or someone who watches Breaking Bad should be forbidden to go to Chemistry school/college because he might synthesize drugs or purify cocaine... >>536434704If I ask you what you did to help children living in poverty you dont have anything to say.If I ask you what your relatives and close circle did to help children living in poverty you dont have anything to say.No one cares about children safety, its just a moral panic, the pedo-puritan goes self-righteous through the internet bragging about how he owns the pedos but the moment he sees a child begging in the streets he looks the other way.Will believe your lie about children safety when I stop seeing child beggars in the streets.And yes, now that you mention it, I was severily bullied at school and no single adult did anything to save me from the emotional torture I endured, even worse many adults sided with the bullies, and the parents of the bullies instead of telling them to stop the unjust behaviour against someone who did not have the means to defend himself they encourage it. My case applies to millions others. But HEY! ALL ADULTS CARED ABOUT MY SAFETY!!!
>>536434792If you are not baiting and are not a retard seeking moral outrage, the answer is simple.The model knows what "flat chest" and "narrow waist" and such are. There are plenty of adult women who are flat and generally not very well developed.Then there are also a lot of images of naked women. I don't think I need to explain this one.Then there are images of children. Any image of a child standing, posing, or doing ANYTHING else also serves as a base for the generated image.Finally, imagegen works in such a way, that it combines concepts in a way that the image "expects" it to be. In other words, if you use tags such as "12 year old girl", "nude", "flat chest", and so on, it'll pull from the pool of images the model expects to match the tokenized tags.In other words, you are basically asking the GPU to shoop the image for you.I think the only POSSIBLE reason this should be illegal is if you use an actual child as a base for the image. If the child doesn't exist then genuinely nobody is hurt and it shouldn't be considered a crime, or even CP. If you take a photo of a real child and generate it to be nude or other degenerate shit, you are a pedo.
>>536434906>European movies used to put capricious scenes of nude children in their movies.They were not scenes meant to be pornography.However I agree that the director just wanted to see a naked kid and stroke his dick to it later.
>>536432010fuck i read that atsai created nazi girl imageslike three times am i cooked or based
>>536433876Because you could go "it's AI sloppa" and get it thrown out but if AI slop is also illegal than you're done either way
>>536433890Anon, there are many battles to be fought with reason and logic on this earth.But believe me when I say; this is not the hill you want to die on.
>>536432010I don't understand how this is different from recognizing drawings of Muhammad (may suffering be upon him) as an illegal act.
>>536434952>because they might use a vehicle to go full speed on the streets and kill someone.If I discovered that you had regular masturbation sessions to the thought of running through a pedestrian at full speed, in addition to possessing terabytes of AI-generated porn of cars seductively crushing through people, then yeah probably I'd second guess giving you a driving license.Sexual fetishes are completely different psychologically from mere entertainment. I think you know this.
>>536434792That's easy. AI knows what naked people look like. It knows the proportions of children (headsize to body ratio). With these two things alone you probably get some uncanny valley because the women it's trained on have breasts. Add in "flat chest" and you're most of the way there without any actual illicit material. >>536434906Nudity back then was seen as symbolic of innocence, and the audience for the most part agreed with it. Now it's looked upon with perverse eyes, it's a reflection of how far society has fallen. There are still darker depths ahead. Also for those who didn't read the article: >Pointing out that the faces and poses of the girls in the images in question are identical with those in the original photos, the judge said that they are elaborate enough to make people mistakenly believe that the girls were photographed naked.Most places in the world already had similar photoshop-of-real-people laws on the books. This wasn't wholly generated.
People who look at real CP imprisoning people for looking at fake CP. This is retarded and I am against this.
>>536435232>Sexual fetishes are completely different psychologically from mere entertainment. I think you know this.Psychologist here. Lol. Lmao. The classical indicator for psychopathy, or one of them, isn't "masturbating while torturing animals", it's simply "torturing animals". People like to add the sexual lens to things they find icky because it allowes them distance to defend the things they do without fapping to it. People watch gore and liveleakn without fapping (usually). Video games still allow and encourage sadism or domination behavior absolutely. I would argue in a safe manner and that's why I'm against their ban, but the only intellectually honest stance is to allow all of it or ban all of it.
>>536432171fpbp
>>536435225i gaht chu anon
>>536435509AHHHH MY EYES THIS IS LITERALLY CHILD PORN SAVE ME GOVERNMENT
>>536435307Read the post above, it was fake cp of real people.It's no longer considered a victimless crime.
>>536432010This is the equivalent of him drawing nudes of his underage students. That definitely warrants getting fired but I don't see how drawings should land you in prison.
>>536435538So people who look at real CP imprisoning people for looking at real CP.This is also retarded, and I am also against this.
>>536435538Trump is a real person.Why isn't this art piece illegal? Or any of the dozens of similar ones or ones of him naked. Surely he is just as much of a victim here as them, no?
>>536435819Or what about the innumerable photos and videos online showing people's extreme misfortunes, including their horrific deaths? I can view, possess, distribute, and laugh about those all I want, no problem. Is that okay? If so, why?
>>536435452>People watch gore and liveleakn without fapping (usually). I frequent rekt threads on /gif/ out of both morbid curiosity and entertainment. I think it is entertaining to watch ridiculous deaths while still understanding that murder is evil.But the combination of being desensitized to it (which I admittedly am) AND sexually getting off to it, finding actual intense physical pleasure in it, inherently makes me more liable to do it. Especially if I had ready access to the object at hand. The mere prospect of sexual pleasure blinds the brain to practical and moral considerations. Of course people vary in self-control but most people in "sexually liberated" societies lack it.I get your point but thinking the sexual element is completely trivial is disingenuous.
>>536435905adults are allowed to be portrayed dead and naked and bloodied, not heckin kiddos
>>536436005Strange argument. That means someone out of both morbid curiosity and entertainment could watch cp while still understanding that it is evil.
>>536432010good good. now we just need legislation here in america that holds companies accountable for their contribution in AI CSAM material and we're golden.1. all this does is hold AI image makers accountable.2.there is no overreach on constitutional rights.3.there is no excuse for defending this shit with the above considered.it's already illegal to posses but the companies that make it so easy for perpetrators to generate said material should be next in line.
>>536436200CP is inherently sexual. Gore is not. A more apt comparison would be if I watched necrophilia porn and pretended it's for "curiosity".
>>536434952You're saying that because some children have bad lives, you should be allowed to normalize drawn cp. 'I'll stop when all the other shitty things happening to children, are solved' -4chan pedo. The bullies were right. Didn't go far enough though. To your other comment. You're again comparing two unrelated things. Sex is the biggest human motivator for people to take action. There's a reason why sexual assault happens in vast quantities. Not comparable at all to driving a car.
>>536434312>You don't have a rightI mean.What do you even think that means, a right? It's very dumb.
>>536434277no they aren't. People will naturally protect *their own children*.
>>536436284Is it tho? isn't necrophilia inherently sexual as well?
>>536436324>>"Right" refers to something that is correct, suitable, or morally acceptable. It can also indicate a power or privilege that individuals or groups are entitled to.Explain where in the Constitution, your right to own drawn cp material, is enshrined.
>>536436351And all children are someone's children, you retard.
>>536435583No it isnt, the ai doesnt “create” the ai Just copy and paste what already has in its data centers so ai generated child porn likely contains elements of irl illegal material.
>>536435156Your moral grandstanding has no value here, anonIt means nothing in a world where there are hundreds of known pedophiles who are raping children as we speak and they are untouchable simply because they are rich or jewishKushner literally just bought a rape island with 3000 bunkers and underground tunnels for the elite to gather and rape children in and you want talk about "dying on a hill"nigger, if you cared even one tiny bit as much about "child safety" as you claim you do you wouldn't be going after some fucking 45 year old incel jerking it to cartoon drawings and would be going after the actual pedophiles who operate in the open and rub it in your face on a daily basis!
>>536432346Now enlighten me how does AI works?How can Stable Diffusion render a realistic CP image?If you know the answers for these question, you will easily understand why you deserve the fucking ROPE!
>>536433844>>536433896It's because most people have a justifiable hatred and disgust for people sexually attracted to children and we went to punish them/remove them from society.
>>536436005>finding actual intense physical pleasure in it, inherently makes me more liable to do itI don't know if this is the case though. There are video games where you can shoot people's body parts off. Shoot one of their legs off and watch them crawl around on the floor, shoot an arm off and watch them grab their stump screaming. Being a video game, of course you get a dopamine rush from it. Your dick might not get hard, but your brain is certainly receiving pleasure from it. And yet the current thinking in psychology is that experiencing violent media does not actually make you more likely to commit violent acts in real life.And that's the real crux of the issue here. Was this teacher genning pictures actually altering his natural course towards a future where he was more likely to commit violence?
>>536436398I'm not supporting democracy, spic
>>536436362Yes, exactly what I mean. If someone watched that and said it was merely for curiosity you'd be right to question him. Watching videos of car crashes and nigger robbers getting shot, though, that's just normal gore. Nothing sexual about it just like there's nothing sexual about normal pics of children. It's if you actively and deliberately sexualize those is when it becomes an issue.
>>536436421what an empty retarded catholic demon shit eating phrase. Stupidest fuckers.
>>536436588>justifiable hatredPeople don't do things because they are justified, you think they're all a bunch of philosophers?>>536436588>disgust for people sexually attracted to childrenWho cares what people generally think? People are stupid retarded niggers, mostly, and doubtless you are a dumb nigger yourself.
>>536436690>becomes an issueYou're a dumb faggot catholic shit eating parasite demon worshiping retarded nigger.Nothing like reason ever comes from you brain parasite trash, now fuck off retard before I pray to God for you to catch aids.
>>536432010Son, Japanese is already 4 foot nothing, got no titties, and don't age until 40, you have no excuse.
>>536436005Well for one if you do it it's a murder scene rather than a freak of accident scene, so it just doesn't hit the same.But nah the sexual element can be removed entirely for curiosity or any other compulsion reason. >>536435819I'm of the opinion that she should have been arrested for that, transgressing free speech into simple threatening actions. Look up the 1170 case of Becket and Henry II, "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"Same vibes. >>536436005> I think it is entertaining to watch ridiculous deaths while still understanding that murder is evil.That's actually the opinion of most self identified pedophiles (making the appropriate substitutions): they recognize it's not good to do and so don't do it. A distinction in these conversations should always be made between "pedophiles" and "child molesters". The latter aren't always the former.>>536435905I wouldn't say that's okay (for your psyche), but there's arguments to be made in the other camp that trivializing death helps people cope with it when it eventually happens to them / their circle.There's a reason religion / spirituality / psychology are separate from the law. Most people are crass / fucked enough to find amusement in suffering, so collectively give such stuff a pass.
>>536436559Kek you clearly didnt understand my argument.I said that this topic could objectively be tackled with perfect reason and logic, but it's completely futile and self-harming because anyone who tries to argue pedo stuff is not only not going to win but also be attacked for defending pedo stuff.I didnt say anything about how I myself think or feel about this, I merely pointed out reality of the situation. If you go around and argue for AI CP being legal, it's going to backlash hard, no matter how much reason and logic you apply.
yeah its porn that features fake childrenthese people really love randomy categorization of mundane things
>>536436885Okay, so we should be permitted to view it (this is my view). But distributing it and joking about it? That person getting slowly demolished by industrial machinery is someone's son, brother, maybe father. I'll never believe that people who enjoy that material are morally better than people who look at pictures of nude children. Why should I?
>>536436593I get your point but sexual pleasure is just way too much compared to regular excitement.It's the same biochemical pathway for the most part but the sheer magnitude, it's like two same sized bottles of beer and vodka. One will have you far more psychologically incapable of controlling your actions than the other.I'm not really decided on the question of what legally should happen to the OP pic case, but he definitely shouldn't be allowed to hold an authority position over elementary school children. Even if you look at it practically and ignore the moral side, kids always get fucked up by it, troon out and rope themselves. And no not for "cultural" reasons, since this is happening in literally the most sexually libertine societies that have ever existed. >>536436794You wouldn't get this upset if you were confident that the things you're doing are fine.
>>536433540>>536433902not loli stuff, 2D is safe as long as it wasn't proven to be traced off a real kid
>>536432010because they won't be able to tell the difference between ai and real photographs soon, and then everyone with real stuff will say it's ai
>>536437047liar. you will go to hell because God hates you goddamned faggot liars.You will burn for eternity. Not I. I am not one of the faggot ring kissing demon trash - the catholics.but you, you are damned to hell forever.Now go kill youself you lying kikelover.
>catholic appears>catholic liesall catholics are faggots.all catholics are liars.no exceptions.
>>536437142>soonlmao fucking retarded nigger
>>536437047>>536433890Sex has always been treated as worse than murder.In almost every video game you can kill another player. When was the last video game you played where you could rape another player?Same goes for the movie industry. They can show children dying but they would never show children being sexually assualted.
>>536432346It is a strategic issue. At some point these gen images will be indistinguishable from the real thing, and then going after any of it will be impossible.
Ignore the memeflag i was trolling in another thread>>536436200People used to do that here even. A lot of oldfags would post it as shock material, little different than how people post scat or mutilation images now. Internet was a different place 20 years ago. >>536436431This was already explained earlier in the thread. >>536436579I expected this from !brazil, but had higher expectations from you japan larper.>>536437042I'm in agreement with you. I adhere to the principle of "do no harm", or at least try to anyway. I don't recall ever making jokes about it, maybe i did, but i think it's normal to seek out shocking videos (gore here) before eventually moving past it. At the very least it helps you internalize just how fragile humans are.
>>536437227Heresies always are treated as worst of all. It's not the child rapist who is viewed as the very worst.For example, do you know about the FedEx child rape murderer? He abducted a girl, raped her, and murdered her.But, there are no riots on the streets. In fact, it was when the nigger-god of the faggot catholics and faggot kikes was profaned, then it was to the streets, and even kier starmer took a knee in religious smug-mugging.So, again, to profane the gods is the height, nobody actually cares about the girls, in real reality, it's nothing to them. a nigger though, he's their god, they'll stomp around and even hand paint signs and t-shirts.
>>536437320It's always been a kike shithole, no exceptions. Andrew Torba is a kike pawn, by the way.
The faggot kike and faggot catholic will cast aspersions, but never answer with anything resembling a useful brain.Expel all kikes and catholics, they are subhuman cancerous trash.
Aaaannnnnd they all are shills, they didn't answer.>>536437375
>>536436946>I merely pointed out reality of the situationYou clearly don't get his argument or the real situation at all, so I'll spell it out for you - laws are for the goyim.
My only issue is idk where to draw the line at. Like it is just a fake generation. Deepfakes should be banned (of minors), but there will always be a market and people who want this stuff that aren't pedophile elite kikes who can do it irl every weekend - for that is it really bad to flood that market with a bunch of fakes? I mean, at the end of the day the Epstein people are still gonna fuck kids. Whole class exposed with 0 repercussions.
>>536437042Because one's an accident, and the other a real crime that was perpetrated against a child. And you're either making, distributing, or owning a recording of said crime. Feigning stupidity, isn't absolution.
>>536436715How's that empty? People care about children. You're an aberration.
>>536436646You live in one, moron.
>>536436559>you wouldn't be going after some fucking 45 year old incel jerking it to cartoon drawings and would be going after the actual pedophilesYou don't believe that jerking off to cartoon drawings of cp, makes you a pedophile?
>>536432010Oh look, I found the article you forgot to linkhttps://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/news-services/jiji-press/20260605-330993/The relevant point of discussion:>Takaaki Matsumoto, a judge at the court, recognized that the naked images of girls possessed by Suito were created on an AI-using image-editing website based on photos of students that were sent to another member of the group.>Pointing out that the faces and poses of the girls in the images in question are identical with those in the original photos, the judge said that they are elaborate enough to make people mistakenly believe that the girls were photographed nakedBasically, the images in question weren't of fictitious children, but AI edits to make pornography of real children. I like loli as much as the next guy, but maybe don't involve real kids who clearly don't want to be porn in your porn collection?
>>536432010Normies are getting very genocidal lately, and it’s not limited to you. Basically they are coming to murder anyone who isn’t a normalfag. This rhetoric started with you pedos, but now it’s branched into passport bros, NEETs, incels, and more. Unfortunately, I’m an incel!I’m going to have to try to evade the flock cams on my way out. No idea how
>>536435156Why not? Why wouldn’t it be his hill? What if he died?
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>>536437811Cartel videos aren't accidents. And as for when it is an accident, the person in that video has (or had) feelings and a family.Either make it all legal or illegal. Make it make sense.
>>536434080>>536434277AI shouldn’t be illegal, that feels wrong. It’s fake. I care more about privacy and ownership rights than I do about a drawing he made. Unless it becomes like a distribution thing>you are an aberrationMost people believe in the holohoax. Being an aberration has zero consequences, in fact it’s good
>>536436751Why are you seething? You have to care what the majority of people think because they are going to force their will on you. That's why paedos get out in jail for ai images, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
>>536432010You being fucked in the head is not conducive to society. I say that as a man attracted to adult women with neotenous features. That being said, society is fucked.
>>536434312>>536436398>>536437862I read this exchange. The wetback is retarded. The government shouldn’t be able to control what you draw. It’s jewish and/or spicish.
>>536436286Yeah you shouldn’t be able to curtail drawings, I draw violent art so this would eventually come for me after you remove all the pedo artists. I mean it’s a moot argument at this point, either your bolshevik government is overthrown or it continues to restrict freedom of expression
>>536432346IDK probably shouldn't be able to utilize the likeness of minors (they can't really consent either) for pornographic material. And if they spread thecontent it's cp distribution. The better option would be using ai to modify "barely" legal content to look younger.
>>536437915I am saying that the distinction doesn't fucking matter when you live in the real world where there is a literal document titled "Jeffrey Epstein Child Sex Trafficking Co-Conspirators" and its a list of dozens of redacted names of actual pedophiles who have never been charged with a crime and never will be because they are simply above the law. People like Les Wexner.
>>536432346just to be clear, all the "death death die die pedo" posters here and on every platform are absolutely the ones that have actually sexually contacted actual kids, usually family members, and have real child porn they actually pay for.the reaction is a knee jerk reflexive denial."SURELY i didn't molest my sister and then later her kids, IM THE GUY that talks about killing perverts on the internet all the time!"sad and obvious watching them lie to themselves about nobody immediately red flagging them.
>>536437326>He abducted a girl, raped her, and murdered her.he didn't rape her, he just murdered herit's way grosser when people say that because it reveals more about themdeep down they wanted her to get raped because it gets them off or it validates the point they're makingthey don't actually care enough about it to get it rightthey prefer the salacious possibility that a child got raped
>>536438073>I like loli as much as the next guy, but maybe don't involve real kids who clearly don't want to be porn in your porn collection?what do you need written consent to save spankbank now?it's not their fucking business if I want to put them in my porn folder, sorrythat shit makes no senseimplying that we need to make sure that girls are okay with us fantasizing about them before we do so otherwise that's bad wrongno sorry we don't need consent to experience attraction, you feminist shithead
>>536434764Wait, why does ai have source material of cp in the first place?
i would say that a fair compromise would be to ignore those who produce it in their own home for their own consumption, but to jail those who distribute it and spread their infatuation to other impressionable minds.
>>536438715>Trying to normalize tolerance for pedophiles who haven't raped a child yet How compelling.
>>536439136Compromise with pedophiles? No.
Don't think too hard about who is the victim in this case, you might come to some distressing conclusions
>>536438985thoughts in your head are somewhat different than digital copies of someone's identity and features sucking dog cock. digital copies can be spread to other people, and printed in to hard copies. they are not "private" in the same way that your internal fantasies are, they exist as a trained lora on a hard drive which can be physically stolen from you and thus exposed to other people. if you're happy with this then you're happy with a group of gay bears spreading fake pictures of you stretching out your arsehole with a variety of cum filled coke bottles all over every underground faggot forum.
>>536435111That doesn't answer the question, pedo. If someone can plant shit on your computer, then why wouldn't they plant the real thing?Your argument is retarded.
>>536432642I see how that justifies forcing a teacher to resign and be disqualified for certain types of jobs. I do not understand why someone should be jailed for 3.5 years for this.Also, the article says FORMER teacher. He may have already resigned because he himself considered staying on unethical, before being 'caught'. That would make the sentence even more unjust than it already is.
>>536439465Because you have to make and store the real thing first. For planting the real thing, they just need a laptop with a model downloaded. Takes 10 seconds to gen on the spot so you never get caught running around with the real thing.
>>536439465>Your argument is retarded.Kek. His argument is quite solid. It appears you are the retarded one for not understanding it. I could explain his argument more clearly in low tier IQ formulation, but i don't care enough.
>>536439709>for planting the fake thing,
>>536437311If that happens then no one would be making real CP anymore. They may still traffic kids but they sure as hell won't be making vids and selling it when they could make it for free with a graphics card.
>>536432010Sorry Hiroshi, molesting and raping children is a pastime for chosen elites only.Ogling virtual children too.
>>536432010No where to run to pedos.Well...
>>536432010Why did you left out the important part?>naked images of girls possessed by Suito were created on an AI-using image-editing website based on photos of students that were sent to another member of the group. https://jen.jiji.com/jc/eng?g=eco&k=2026060500267
>>536432240>Strict laws regarding faker thingsRead the article retardo.He wasn't jailed because he waxed his carrot to AI porn but because the AI porn was created from pictures and videos of his real students.>>536440162
>>536432010Anon, you know there's a TITANIC difference between loli drawings and AI trained on them, vs AI images made to look like real children that are trained on images of real children, yeah?
>>536432010I thought about this and children shouldnt be seen in that way whether the image is real or not
>>536432346We should just legalize pedophilia globally and punish people that are abusive
>>536438923No he did and I don't know why you guys keep trying to pretend he didn't
>>536432261You're an idiot if you think it works like this.See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSBdfu7PZk0>Cop: In this case we didn't find any actual child porn, but it was clear that the suspect knew that this virtual child pornography could be used to get around the statute. We tried to pick the images and photos that looked the most photorealistic, where you would look at them and the general user could say "that looks real.">Interviewer: So who is the victim in this case?>Cop: Even though they're sometimes called "victimless crimes" but if anything I wouldn't call it victimless. I'd say society is the victim, and this person was also had a contact who was underage.
>>536438985So, if someone doesn't want to show up on a porn set for you, it's perfectly acceptable for you to film them without their knowledge (another relevant factor -- the defendant even went so far as to film them changing clothes) and then edit the images and videos to get the same product as if you'd fucked them on camera?Do people own nothing of their own likeness? You talk about feminism here, but I'd have just as much problem with it being of little boys as with little girls. I don't think this is a gendered issue at all, it's a basic privacy issue.
>>536440596Something close to this. What we see happening now especially as of late is that the myth that "pedophilia isn't illegal, but child abuse is" is not what happens in practice. In practice, they find someone who displays signs of pedophilia, like the UK guy that drew a toddler mascot with dog porn or some shit, and cases where no real cp was ever found, and they argue "We've seen real CSAM users who started seeking contact with real children, so this person is also a threat."I definitely lean to the side of "anybody who self-identifies pedo, is dangerous." I think that if someone wants to express sexual interest in children, then that person is hiding something. But the law should be the law, such that a person can't be convicted if they genuinely had nothing to hide. It shouldn't be thought crime or harmless crime.But I'm partial on the case of AI. Even if CSAM wasn't used to make the dataset they used, and the LLM just knows how to interchange adults with children in something pornographic, that's also offensive, and putting it up on the internet will spread, as everything does online, and there should be a specific charge against generating sexually suggestive images of children. The case of "lolicon" has always been dubious, and probably should be criminalized if you can prove that there's a real link between showing it to someone, and someone eventually becoming an active pedophile.But at some point we're just saying that "all porn invites abuse" which is the part I'm a bit wary of. It's the conservative playbook against liberalism in the end.
>>536441007In this particular case, it did in fact work like this. The text that immediately follows the paragraphs I quoted here >>536438073 is as follows:>According to the ruling, Suito, between May 2023 and March 2025, poured body fluids on girls’ recorders and school lunches, and shared secretly filmed videos of three girls changing clothes at his elementary school with other members of the group on a group chat.>He also possessed AI-generated sexual images of two girls, the ruling said.Not only did Suito upload images of real children to an image-editing website to make porn that would look like those real children, but he additionally filmed them without their knowledge changing clothes, and also came on their recorders and in their school lunches.
>>536439038I don't think they need it, in order to generate it, and crime reports typically dissect whether it was or not.Image generation has become extremely creative with time. It simply knows how to anatomically draw humans at any age, and it's legal to train on nude and porn--It just occurred to me we don't have a lot of detail on the legality of training on nude pictures of children. I wonder what OpenAI or Anthropic did here...
>>536432010That headline is sensationalist and misleading.>According to the ruling, Suito, between May 2023 and March 2025, poured body fluids on girls’ recorders and school lunches, and shared secretly filmed videos of three girls changing clothes at his elementary school with other members of the group on a group chat.>He also possessed AI-generated sexual images of two girls, the ruling said.The AI was deepfakes of specific kids in his class. It wasnt just random generated AI images, and he had and distributed real CP as part of these charges. That and his "body fluids" in the girls lunches and jacking off on their musical instruments, the dude is just fucked up.
>>536432010too bad takawashi, no longer can you party like its 1999.
>>536441007I bet these cops fap to the shit they have to look at during work.
>The case of "lolicon" has always been dubious, and probably should be criminalized if you can prove that there's a real link between showing it to someone, and someone eventually becoming an active pedophile.I've seen no evidence that consuming lolicon will make someone likely to fuck kids. Whether it makes them a pedophile or not... I'd say half the time they're already pedophiles. They're just consuming the content that will get them off without getting arrested.That said, this form of argument mirrors an idea I've seen by a lot of people who are anti-lolicon, which is that it *normalizes* pedophilia. The thing is though, in the United States, this should make it more easy to defend on a free speech basis. Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition already held that lolicon cannot be banned if it is not obscene, and while the "it's art" argument has held decently enough for now (because it's hard to prove that something has no serious artistic value), an "it's political" argument is even more compelling. Consider a lolicon porn video with a statement at the beginning: "This video is political speech. If you are turned on by the contents within, you should vote to lower the age of consent". Is it extreme? Sure. But we have an absolute right to advocate for extreme political ideas, even ones that are contrary to contemporary moral standards.
>>536432010Same as traced CP, if it at any point involved real children it's CP. So only actual drawings and handmade graphic designs are not CP.
>>536432010Meanwhile on the land of nippon: https://files.catbox.moe/if5tda.mp4
>>536441715Shoujo Ramune. Good series.
>>536432261this literally happened at my school in the late 90's, a computer tech found a bunch of photos on a teachers computer that rumor had it had pictues of kids faces stuck on porn images.the teacher was creepy as fuck in a funny way, like he over played his creepyness in a humourus way, he'd come into a class room he wasnt teaching, do the mr burns excellent thing with his fingers, while asking who was going to come for an intensive care session with him.after this computer incident he was fucking gone.
Lol, this is why you can't argue about anything with normies. The moment you say something logical but morally controversial, they raise the pitchforks in emotional rage.Do I think it's sick? Yes. Do I think that there's a victim? No.
>>536432171Forced lobotomy and castration comming soon for you.
>>536441960Shit, that was meant for op sorry boss.
>>536435036I really love movies but I do find it sad to realize that the whole "Movie Crew" culture died with MeToo, Weinstein and Epstein, because as you say, now we look at everything about a film crew with suspicion. A director was sort of viewed as getting a free pass to "make his art" in the past, but now with all the hysteria and also real abuse cases, there's this vibe of like "So did the movie people just do it to get off?"It's funny in cases like Quentin Tarantino's foot fetish, but it stops being funny if the general vibe around people is that movies are "creepy", and I had that realization recently. I was talking to my sister's friend about a David Lynch movie and she kinda got triggered over the themes and use of actresses in the film (mulholland drive) like "We don't need to have these discussions about women!" (movie is about women entering hollywood by being treated badly by hollywood men)It's just sad imo. The world used to be fucking awesome, but now it's like "that was an illusion. Everything was always toxic and wrong."It's like my entire aspiration since I was born has been killed off.
>>536441906>Lol, this is why you can't argue about anything with normies. The moment you say something logical but morally controversial, they raise the pitchforks in emotional rage.Reddit created a culture of being in a race to "say the right thing" Upvoting/Downvoting became popular with moralfags.
>>536441620Agreed. The dude looks and sounds like he doesn't give a shit who the victim or perpetrator is. He just loves "catching muh criminal" and talks about zooming in on the evidence like it's "so awful", but he seems a little gleeful here.
>>536441322Then it is an interesting spin in terms of the news-cycle to make it all about AI, when we're talking about a literal child stalker.I wonder if any of this is manufactured through the same "AI is the ANTICHRIST" crap that's in everything else. The whole "FEAR the AI" complex is part of propping up the AI industry. The whole idea that AI is "unstoppable" and shit like that, like oh my god we have to create stronger enforcement, and we need surveillance, uhhhh we actually need to make datacenters because I'm afraid uwu -- doing all the things that facilitates this crap through reverse psychology idkIt's a bunch of Israeli/Peter Thiel shit
>>536432010Why aren't they prosecuting AI companies then? They gave the AI the capacity to generate it. Probably by feeding tons of CP into it. Reminder that Sam Altman molested his sister between her ages of three and twelve. And faced zero consequences for that.
>>536442333checked. This is a profound question. Why is it legal to own such an ai as is capable of that?
>>536441906The only thing morally black and white is that delaying child birth is fucking evil when egg cells deteriorate with age. 25% of women are already infertile by 18. The entirety of humanity condemned to compounding genetic defects because old women can't ride the cock carousel.
>>536432010He used faces of real kids, thats illegal pretty much everywhere in the world, even in countries that otherwise allow loli porn.
>>536442289This is just a precursor to thought crime. In 50 years you will be the 80 year old man getting arrested for asocial thoughts. Anything that harms unity will be made illegal and fined and any means will be tamed for the soul use of the state against the individual. Go get in a fist fight in the wrong state. You'll get charged if you don't rat first and play the victim. Its fucking over dude. People don't even care if you are secretly weird and not hurting anyone, they want to find a reason to remove you as competition.
>>536432261>using legitimate kidsYou have zero idea of what you are talking about.
>>536442387Because you can just make one. Its easy. It just takes time and effort. There are uncensored AI models everywhere and all you need to do is house them on a PC. You can make it illegal, but then all AI would be illegal. You can't regulate something that isn't regulated so by your logic anyone making anything potentially dangerous or morally questionable would need to be reviewed by government. Its why they want an AI monitoring your PC activity constantly and why they want remote access to your private files. Its people like you that ruined America. Liberty cannot exist with people like you. Fuck you. Thats exactly what they want to do.
>>536432010Asian countries are totalitarian shitholes. This includes the west friendly japan and south korea.
>>536439038Data trawlers, CSAM spam servers, and investigation evidence. They already admitted they ran out of data to 'train' the AIs on. That includes the CP.>>536434906CP was legal into the 70s in some places. They only got around to fully banning it in the 80s.>>536441324They are getting sued over copyright infringement and stolen data. So far, I haven't heard anyone point out that much of the data they acquired in question was illegal or questionable to begin with. But if they dig into the stolen data angle they are going to find out how illegal a lot of that was acquired and its illegal manufacture/origins as well. Question is does anyone have the balls to do so since globohomo treats AI as their Antichrist.Technically they are liable in both how they acquired the data in question and what the data itself is. So in theory its possible to fuck them if you can somehow get passed the jewed courts because there is no way all that data was acquired legally or filtered through for questionable content(like copyright infringement).
>>536442944Or they will just gerrymander and make everything they do sanctioned and subsidized and you will get taxes, prosecutions, fines, and potential jail time if you do the same. Just as it always has been.
>>536439465He literally answered your question tho
>>536442944>CP was legal into the 70s in some places. They only got around to fully banning it in the 80s.We're seeing something a bit similar to the original cp ban. It's actually happened in sort of 20 year intervals.80s was when professional productions were banned in my country, after a foid raised her voice about it, and subsequently it hasn't even been enforced that harshly, and punishment was borderline nonexistent. Then in 2004 Red Barnet made the "cp filter" which is a domestic dns thing, where certain websites in that "limewire" era of the internet were bordered off with signs warning you that they were known to have illegal content or something. Then it also entered things that had nothing to do with cp and that caused people to push back a little. But punishments have still been mild. Much like Japan we do see cases in particular where it's a kindergarden worker or school teacher who previously got banned for posession of cp, who was found to have touched a kid, and it's stigmatized all male workers in daycare and schools to some degree. In fact, I've met a pedo teacher when I was in Efterskole, which is a 10th grade tradition. A sort of early-college where you live without parents when you're 15 on campus. Guy in shades was "joking" a lot sexually with the girls. Then rumors started that he had grabbed them on the ass, and I would even hear him openly talk to them like it's no big deal. It really seemed like a joke and just lighthearted "oh him" sort of thing, but then he was fired. I wonder if he was ever investigated? I imagine he was, and the teachers never told us.And then 2025, they've started to also target AI CSAM, and 2027 they've said they're freeing up a lot of room for pedos in prisons, so I think there'll be another "wave" of arrests.
>>536442944>They are getting sued over copyright infringement and stolen data. So far, I haven't heard anyone point out that much of the data they acquired in question was illegal or questionable to begin with. But if they dig into the stolen data angle they are going to find out how illegal a lot of that was acquired and its illegal manufacture/origins as well. Question is does anyone have the balls to do so since globohomo treats AI as their Antichrist.I believe it's a whole can of worms.The real reason why Trump put 500 billion into a "Golden Age of AI" is because of China. China was already a digitalized society with great progress in AI, and our progress was slow. If China wins the "war over data" then they have the new hegemony basically.The issue is that China shits on foreign copyright constantly, and they don't really have the same kind of privatized copyright laws as we do in the global west. So how do you compete within the confines of the law of that? I believe you don't. China has a huge leg up by stealing our data en masse for decades, and not having any enforcement against it. We'd have to enforce ourselves if we did the same thing, so I think there is a "Great Lie" with OpenAI, Grok and Anthropic, that much like Google, who's gotten search results removed time after time by the EU for privacy issues, the american AI companies are hiding a huge case of copyright infringement, even just between america's own companies, because we literally lose to China if we stick to the rules on this.
>>536444204Except it ignores pic related. The data they have is shit and worse than useless. Since they combined it all and never bothered to filter it. They are also hiding all the illcit data, its sources, and the metric shitload of crimes committed to acquire all that data. They were even forced to outright ADMIT that they had consumed ALL the data humanity has ever produced and it still wasn't enough to achieve their goals. The problem is that also includes data that was illegal for them to possess and they weren't given permission to take/use. Like private data or copyright. Much less illegal data and stuff that was in evidence. All of which they indiscriminately looted and used without permission. Competing with China was simply their official excuse as China mined all the data they possibly could from their citizens in the name of 'peacekeeping'. That made them mad jelly and wanting to do the same.In the end, they still failed to achieve their goals. While opening themselves up to massive liability while desperately praying nobody takes a serious look at how they acquired all that data or what was in such data.>>536444024I'm not sure about their move in regards to this. They keep flip flopping back and forth. On one they try to legitimize and legalize pedophilia. On the other, they keep trying to crack down on the fake stuff while letting real shit like Cuties right on through. So do they want to make it even easier to plant CP on people? They host the world's largest CP servers in the Pentagon itself for CP spam that they were caught doing on the 00s. They don't even need fake stuff. Or are they trying to get rid of all the blackmail they have on themselves by legalizing it?
>>536442333Sounds like it’s own thread anon
>>536441007>but it was clear that the suspect knew that this virtual [AI cartoons] could be used to get around the statuteLet me get this straight -- the suspect knew that what he was doing wasn't a crime, therefor he was paradoxically committing a crime by being "clever" and tricking law enforcement by not committing the crime they wanted to charge him with...? Any lawyer in the world could have destroyed this case if they actually cared to. I assume it was stylized cartoon images like loli otherwise they wouldn't have had to resort to such ridiculous mental gymnastics.>I'd say society is the victimI wish they'd asked this genius to elaborate just to hear what kind of rocket scientist shit came out next.>this person was also had a contact who was underageMost people do, they're called relatives and they're tasked with messaging them sometimes which means having their phone number in their contacts. Are they going to use this to go after anyone who accesses porn on a device that has underage persons added to the contacts? What a travesty of justice.
>>536432010AI CP is a should be 100% legal, even if trained on actual kids.It will flood the CP market with fakes and drown out real victims.
>>5364320101pbtid shill but it’s still worth saying that pic related literally made the same argumentIf you make the same argument, you are now forever twain with this kike. I don’t care how many Romans you throw or how much you love Hitler, if you make the “but it’s not hurting anyone” argument you are on the same level as Dennis Prager as a human being.
>>536441185No you are misunderstanding me. I am saying it's easier to be a pedo legally than a person who jerks it to cartoons.
Does no one else find it strange how the regime wants to make everything permissible except this?You can transition children, which does real physical harm to real physical children and is sexual... but not look at a naked one.I genuinely don't want child pornography to proliferate as I have romantic views of preserving childhood innocence furthermore, I think that sexualizing children might lead to increased instances of molestation.But the best and only argument I see from the weirdly hyper-emotional detractors ITT is "it needs to be illegal because it freaks people out" >>536434080I'm freaked out by race mixing too and men pretending to be women. Why isn't that illegal? I'm freaked out by people openly proclaiming that they want to wipe my entire race off the planet. Why isn't that illegal?Why is it that the ONLY thing that has to remain taboo is the thing that jews conveniently use to blackmail politicians?
>>536440596>We should just legalize pedophilia globally and punish people that are abusiveWhy do you want pedophilia legalized?
In fact, we should all be freaked out by AI in general because it will exterminate life. Why not make AI illegal? That would solve the problem of AI generated child images.Just ban AI.
>>536438715Literally the same argument as “you hate trans and gays because you’re secretly gay/trans yourself!”You are quite literally a faggot
>>536444618Ugh...It's a shame that the only thing the right is capable of is making threads about things that harm us.
>>536441638>”This video is political speech. If you are turned on by the contents within, you should vote to lower the age of consent". Is it extreme? Sure. But we have an absolute right to advocate for extreme political ideas, even ones that are contrary to contemporary moral standards.It is neither a political nor moral imperative to fight for the “right” of men in their 20s who are sexual failures to relive their youths by fucking young teenage women. If a woman having a sexual past bothers you, fight against jew kike pornography world that normalizes promiscuity.
>>536444204China is the only one making hardware and has been for decades. There is no competition.
>>536445203It's not strange at all. One leads to people having children and one leads to depopulation. Jews also need something to control politicians with.
>>536432240This. See Epstein.Sexual age Limits is the Moral Panic the "West" will die on. Like "da joos" for the Nazis and emigration for the soviets.Teenagers will follow whoever promises them sexual liberty. Unfortunately this is currently Islam, thought I could see that legit fascists (Napoleon style) or communists take over Europe, fighting both Islam and America.
>>536445368Bullshit. Outside if Muttland we had Roman law, there you can marry at 14 and have sex as young you want. (Except adultry of course)Criminal law is for thiefs and not for sex and drugs.
>>536432261How does an AI know how to generate CSAM? It can only produce outpug of material it was trained on. The fact that this is possible means that the AI companies have petabytes worth of CSAM on their databases and they're distributing it via the AI model. Why aren't they getting raided?
I have a scenario. What if I sell my own naked photos as a kid ? The person to be protected by law, me, would consent.
Oh well.Might as use real ones then at this point
>>536447486Marriage records going back to before America was founded show you are very very wrong, pedo Muhammad
>>536447228>Sexual age Limits is the Moral Panic the "West" will die on. Like "da joos" for the Nazis and emigration for the soviets.It’s a moral panic that exists only in the head of the pedophile right. There is not a single serious political movement that is aimed at raising the age of consent.If you are in your mid 20s, like an actual adult who is not going to school or anything, there is something wrong with you if you want to fuck a 13-14 year old.
>>536433540and then you pajeets took over and spam it with your seething topics. This is why everyone hates you.
>>536433596you raped babies and animals, are you really one to talk Hindu?
>>536433540Way to out yourself as a tourist faggot moot himself said that he hates pedo
>>536448259I'm pretty sure you were an obese malnourished bug monstrosity of a child and that no one, pedophile or otherwise, ever loved it will ever love you at any state of your life tho
>>536432010It's funny how people support pedos in japan but you can't smoke 1 joint or you get 7 years in the can. No wonder japan will be gone by 2100.
>>536449438You can't really use the legislation for marijuana to enact blackmail and erase privacy in the way this interpretation of pedophilia in the OP can. Marijuana laws end up catching retarded niggers who fly to Japan to sell it to mafia distributers while the pedophilia hysteria is used to facilitate the current blackmailing of the governments and excuse the erasure of privacy. All of the recent digital ID bullshit was pushed on the premise of "think of the children".
>>536449611Wild thought but maybe wanting to have sex with children is worse than smoking a plant?
