>I reckon this war will be over by the end of the year, and Zelenskyy will head off to the UK with a lorryload of US dollars to live in seclusion.This war has been utterly pointless.>NATO hoped the war would destroy Russia’s economy and lead to the collapse of the Russian Federation.It didn’t work.On the contrary, severe economic problems are driving a wedge between NATO countries.>Russia wanted to swallow up the whole of Ukraine to ensure its national security.That didn’t work either.Ukraine has retained about 70 per cent of its territory and can harass Russia endlessly. Russia is constantly suffering terrorist attacks.>This is a war where both sides lose, and it is utterly pointless.Apart from the arms dealers, neither side has got what they wanted.
>>536443699>energy crisis is finally hitting home>EU and US funding drying up, Ukraine is looking at a wall of debt>"okay let's talk about a peace settlement right before you launch your major operation"Kek, is he actually retarded enough to think the Russians are going to fall for that?
>>536443699He sounds like Trump. Constantly telling people the war will totally end soon when he knows that's impossible.Wars cannot end until the cause of the war is resolved, or until peace is imposed by outside forces. The latter only occurs when the warring parties are proxies/dependencies of other powers.The reality is, this war cannot end without either the total victory of Russia or the total defeat of Russia.The total defeat of Russia doesn't simply mean giving 99% Russian Crimea to Banderites. It means the collapse and dissolution of the Russian Empire.
>>536443699It's still npt unconditional surrender.Hopefully they continue THD.
>>536444127brown
>>536443699Em dashes... Zelensky gonna get chatgpt to end the war for him...
>>536444442Youre country is literally getting flooded with shitskins
>>536444127No, Zelensky is a media person. It's all performative and the open letter is designed as a message for the elites inside Russia, rather than Putin.
>>536444411>The reality is, this war cannot end without either the total victory of Russia or the total defeat of Russia.Unless a miracle occurs, I suspect Ukraine and Russia will drift into a prolonged low-intensity conflict.Today I’ll use a drone to kill a few Russian soldiers;tomorrow I’ll use artillery to destroy a few Ukrainian houses.A prolonged artillery battle combined with drone skirmishes.No peace agreement, but no full-scale war either.Both sides will simply engage in pointless border skirmishesuntil Europe can’t take it any longer and declares the war over.
>>536444506I'm yet to spot a single nigger or subhuman turdie in my cityyou see those on internet because it's so rare that people instantly record/take picture of italso you're possibly a jeet invading japan/korea so I don't trust you unless you name 3 sluttiest kpop stars
>>536444411>Constantly telling people the war will totally end soon when he knows that's impossible.??? When did he ever say this?
>>536444624>until Europe can’t take it any longer and declares the war over.Expected by everyone especially Russians as it untied their hands
>>536444652>When did he ever say this?Trump says it almost every day. I was saying that Zelensky saying dumb shit like this reminds me of Trump. You an ESL or just retarded?
>>536444624>I suspect Ukraine and Russia will drift into a prolonged low-intensity conflict.That's because you're retarded. Russia can never allow a permanent conflict on its border. Why do you think it was so adamant about blocking NATO to begin with?The real question is, how does Russia "win" this war?
>>536443699Top kek, as if he doesn’t know he is supposed to kill himself at the end
>>536444921very easy, Ukraine gets abandoned by everyone, ran pur of money and return back to its usual way of surviving - leaching on Russia. But of course they will need to have a friendly government for that.
>>536443699Reminder: UK has underwritten all Ukrainian government debt with the IMF, so that the likes of BlackRock and Fidelity can loan them money without violating their risk rules.UK will be left holding the baby when Ukraine defaults, and the goyim here will pay for it.
>>536444921They don't. They lost either way. Only way to get rid of putin and for a sign of good will dismantle their nukes. Or stay forever a 3rd world shit hole, their choice.
>>536443699he leads the country. him getting lorryloads of money is no problem. retards like you could never do that.
>>536444411He has in-fact lost the war. If someone invades, if you mobilise your whole country, if you enlist the help of USA and EU to fight, and if after years and years of fighting you havent regained any ground at all... then you have in fact lost.Even if the other guy cannot yet be said to have won.
>>536444921>The real question is, how does Russia "win" this war?The real question is, who is Russia at war with?Ukraine? The economic potential of US and NATO pumped into Ukraine?In both cases, the answers will be different.
>>536445034The truth is, the die has already been cast. There is no going back. The only way Russia can win is by exhausting the west and destroying Ukraine. Pic-related.
>>536445047>Reminder: UK has underwritten all Ukrainian government debt with the IMF, so that the likes of BlackRock and Fidelity can loan them money without violating their risk rules.The problem is that Ukraine cannot win the war; even in the best-case scenario, they will only be able to hold the current front lines.Driving Russian troops out of Ukraine is simply impossible.How does your government intend to resolve the debt issue?
>>536445047I'm pretty sure American goyim are getting milked harder than bong goyim.
>>536445050>They don't. They lost either way. Only way to get rid of putin and for a sign of good will dismantle their nukes. Or stay forever a 3rd world shit hole, their choice.If Russia "loses" there won't be a Russia.Moreover, this idea that Russia is doomed unless it becomes a US vassal like Europe is retarded. The West is in terminal decline. Russia will outlive you.
>>536443699>em dashInternational treaties are going to be written by ChatGPT from now on, aren't they
>>536445095>He has in-fact lost the war. If someone invades, if you mobilise your whole country, if you enlist the help of USA and EU to fight, and if after years and years of fighting you havent regained any ground at all... then you have in fact lost.Nice logic there.>>536445117>The real question is, who is Russia at war with?Russia is at war with the United States. Has been since Nuland said "Fuck the EU". The United States needs to subordinate Russia to contain China. Just like the United States needs to subordinate Venezuela/Iran to contain China. If we cannot defeat Russia, we cannot defeat China. If we defeat Russia, we will easily defeat China.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xNHmHpERH8
>>536443699>>536444127if either side is using attrition tactics then there is zero chance for a negotiated peace. attrition tactics demands a 24/7/365 grind. any lull or ceasefire is only an opportunity for the enemy to regroup and rearm. for this reason the victory condition can't be negotiated, it's either unconditional ukraine surrender or 20 more years of war meter by meter until there's nothing left.
>>536443699>demands peace with Russia>starts droning Romania's largest portCan we safely assume that he's about to switch sides?
>>536446444>starts droning Romania's largest portWhy is Zelensky doing this?
>>536444596>letter is designed as a message for the elites inside RussiaIndeed and it's pretty good in that. Just put all blame on Putin, get rid of him and everything will be fine.
>>536443699they were told last year that june was the deadline. the god emperor will be very pissed if he doesnt get his ukraine deal as a birthday present.
>>536444127>>EU and US funding drying upwhat gave you that idea? EU is still sending economic support. And will continue well into 2027.
I think Poland should join the war
The best resolution for this war will leave neither side happyUkraine needs to lose its clay and Russia needs to lose its puppet state
>>536446615I hope Europe has the capacity to move past Putin once he is gone. We have a lot of gain from having a good relationship with Russia.
>>536446556Ukrainians hate Romanians. They hate all their neighbors and it's reciprocal.We should march on occupied Romanian territories and team up with the Russians from Transnistria to put an end to this fake and gay bolshevik project called The Ukraine.
>>536446965The EU needs to be dissolved so you all can return to blowing each other up like in the good old days
>>536443699The letter is a meme public stuntThe war will go on until 2036At least
>>536443699I mean, Russia’s economy and demographics are pretty well and proper fucked after this bullshit pointless war. It’s pretty clear to see that no matter what side you’re dickriding
>>536447026>you all can return to blowing each otherThat's some gay shit right there
>>536443699They are spamming this shit from the the lying kike of kiev in the media Meanwhile he wants Crimea back.The cocaine delusions are insane
>>536447044>The war will go on until 2036But if that were to happen, Russia’s economy would be dragged down by a protracted war.Putin is sacrificing more of the nation’s interests simply to keep the war going.Even if a miracle were to occur and Ukraine were to be utterly crushed by Russia, all you would ultimately be left with is a shattered wasteland.And then, Putin would be forced to face a Russian economy on the brink of collapse. Because too many people have died.It simply isn’t worth it.
>>536443699>Russia is constantly suffering terrorist attacks.>When you strike back against an invader it's le terrorism>>536444127Ukraine has been open to peace negotiations the whole time.Russia's summer offensive so far is just throwing more Russians into the grinder only to start losing territory the last two months.>>536444921>Russia can never allow a permanent conflict on its borderWhy do you think they get to decide if it's "allowed" or not?Hell, it's Ukraine that just recently allowed Russia to have their pride parade lol>Why do you think it was so adamant about blocking NATO to begin with?By attacking a non-member, causing nato expansion on their border? LOL!>>536445473>Russia is at war with the United StatesWe only just voted to restore aid that vance bragged about cutting off.
>>536447173Russia had record oil profits in MayRussia has record gold reservesRussia had almost no debtRussia lost about .2% of thier male populationMeanwhile in ukraine.....
>>536447583>Hell, it's Ukraine that just recently allowed Russia to have their pride parade lolOnly a faggot shill would spew that retarded propaganda
>>536443699Who's going to win? I can't imagine Russia actually losing this one. I understand they're retarded and can't plan operations, but what is the current score, if you will?
>>536446556Artificial escalation. It's shady tactic like the nord pipeline blowup. Though European countries would do nothing about it.
>>536447505We'll see :)
>>536447173No russia can recover if they stop continuing the war. They would get seven million additional people and rework what they lost. But for ukraine its much more grim who is left with 22-25 million people and the the half of the refugee especially young people won't return even if the war ends.
>>536447583>We only just voted to restore aid that vance bragged about cutting off.It's difficult to talk to someone as retarded as you. America is literally running the entire war. Has been since the very start.You are confusing Trump and Vance's random ramblings with the people who actually run this country. We didn't cut off aid to Ukraine. We surged a shitload of aid to Ukraine right before Trump took office. And we're funneling shitloads of aid through Europe with the PURL program(that Europe is totally going to pay for someday).What Kikelensky actually fears is that the United States is becoming too overextended. Basically, we don't have unlimited aid to give or weapons to "sell" on credit. We're going to have to pull back somewhere(and it's not going to be Pissrael).So he's basically hoping the Russians will agree to end the war so that Ukraine won't face the inevitable humiliation that will occur without American direct or indirect support.You can hear the same basic argument put forward by that Ukrainian chick that went on Tucker Carlson's show the other day(Luliia Mende). In her speech to Putin, she talks about how the Ukrainians need to feel like they've won the war.No. Ukraine must be absolutely and totally crushed like Germany/Japan in WWII. Anything else is just asking for more future wars.As I said before, the die has already been cast. It's too late to go back.
>>536447583It's all about rest of donstek which is all driving factors behind this prolonged conflict. They don't much care about other regions.
>>536447505But cannibalizing their country for their war economy is pretty much all that's proping them up.Whole industries have collapsed.If that all ends they don't automatically come back.They're now telling businesses to arm themselves to take care of their own drone defense so not only will you have dissatisfied people, expecting payments and an explanation of what it was all for who will have greater than ever access to arms.
>>536448230>They're now telling businesses to arm themselvesHow can something like this be allowed?Isn’t this just like the corporate armies in cyberpunk fiction?By establishing their own armies, large corporations are gaining power on a scale that surpasses even that of nation-states.Last time, Putin nearly plunged into civil war because of a mutiny by the Wagner mercenary group, and now he’s allowing companies to form private armies?Isn’t this just fucking corporate warlords?
>>536447635Jewtin had to beg trump to ask zelenski for it and offer a prisoner exchange lolI understand your seething over the humiliation though, John from texas oblast.>>536448120>We never wanted the regions we added to our constitution anyway!Lmao
>>536448100>Ukraine must be absolutely and totally crushed like Germany/Japan in WWII. Anything else is just asking for more future wars.Russian shills already circlejerk about who their next target for invasion will be.The way to prevent future wars is Russia getting their shit kicked in and their neighbors joining nato, as is already well in progress.
Russia is looking more and more likely to collapse before the year is over.
>>536448554Retarded faggot donstek is the main political gamble. Now they don't care about gettimg rest of of kherson or zaporizhzhia. If they get the rest of donstek they would want a permanent freeze out from this war and do excuses like "we got we want"
>>536447505>Putin is sacrificing more of the nation’s interests simply to keep the war going.What Putin needs is to permanently secure Russia's western border. It's why Russia has been crying for a "new European security architecture" for 40 years.The Russians lost the Cold War because by the 1980's, the Soviet Union was surrounded to its West by NATO, to its East by China, and to its South by Islamic Fundamentalism. This forced the Soviets into an arms-race essentially with the entire world. The Soviets were spending upwards of a third of their entire GDP on their military. This diverted resources from the private economy and kept the Soviets poor.The collapse of the Soviet Union was less an organic event than it was a controlled-demolition as part of a new strategy to improve relations between Russia and Europe. It's why Russia became a self-proclaimed non-ideological state. Russia needs Europe. Russia's entire foreign-policy since the 1980's was to buy the Europeans off with cheap resources. If Europe is friendly, Russia isn't forced into an arms-race against NATO, China, etc."Overextending" Russia is stated policy of the United States government. We want to keep Russia poor in hopes of destabilizing the government. If Russia, with its vast resources, can develop in peace, it would become richer than all the rest of Europe combined.
>>536444411> total victory of RussiaDon't know what your definition is of "total victory" but for Russia to just be able to keep Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk and impose full demilitarization under NATO security guarantees would be a victory in itself, but I wouldn't call it total.
>>536448712Shouldn't Russia have collapsed in April 2022 according to people like you?
>>536443699As a representative of Russia,I would like to politely decline.Ukraine is Russia and your debts for your John Mccain war are beyond your coiffers. Fools.
>>536443699>>I reckon this war will be over by the end of the year, and Zelenskyy will head off to the UK with a lorryload of US dollars to live in seclusion.He's never had US Dollars. Ukraine aid has always been miltiary aid. You're a retard who swallows Russian propaganda. It will be Putin who will need to flee after failing in Ukraine. Zelensky is once again playing chess.
Ok, what embarrassment did Russia suffer today?
>>536448611>The way to prevent future wars is Russia getting their shit kicked in and their neighbors joining nato, as is already well in progress.The way to prevent wars with Russia is by not creating an existential threat and/or threatening to hang ethnic-Russians in Novorossiya. Russia has good relations with 90% of the countries of the world, and is essentially the political leader of the biggest anti-American bloc(BRICS).War wasn't imposed on the Ukrainians. They chose war. The question is, why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrCr0_E742khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPZNRZNvwCUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqilLqsQmYAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHm_7T7QNl8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wB9uL2lKaw
>>536448554>offer a prisoner exchange lolToo bad you are a lying faggot with no source>Putin begged for pow exchangeWhy did he have to beg?Doesnt Zelensky care about his POWs?
>>536448930> elites "helping" childrenThose poor kids.
>>536448950>Zelensky is once again playing chess.5D chess?
>>536448451>How can something like this be allowed?What choice do they have?Ukraine has been hitting Russian AA daily and penetrating deeper and deeper into Russia.The government continuing to take responsibility for air defense just makes them look weak and makes the people question wtf they're doing.By shifting responsibility to private business it deflects blame. Oh no, it's not that mighty Russia is powerless to stop ukrainian drones but that those corrupt businesses aren't funding their own defense enough!Of course it's a short term bandage bound to cause long term problems especially after the war but again what else can they do by any desperate move to just barely keep things going and hope something changes.
>>536448727Sure whatever, let me know when the cope shifts to "we never wanted donstek, the SMO was about denazifying nafo!">>536449010Russia was under no threat of attack or invasion and NATO wasn't letting Ukraine join.Since jewtin's chimpout on Ukraine that has done untold damage to Russia NATO has gotten two new members including one on russia's boooooooorder oooo!
>>536448891>Don't know what your definition is of "total victory" but for Russia to just be able to keep Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk and impose full demilitarization under NATO security guarantees would be a victory in itself, but I wouldn't call it total.That would be a defeat for Russia because it wouldn't resolve the "root causes" of the conflict.The reality is, NATO will NEVER step foot in Ukraine short of WWIII or total Russian collapse.With that said, it's not that Russia is becoming more powerful from this war. It's not. Russia is getting weaker. The problem is that the world isn't only "The West" vs Russia. America is declining faster than Russia. Europe is barely hanging on.
>>536448950>He's never had US Dollars. Ukraine aid has always been miltiary aid.What does this mean in your mind, I'm curious
>>536449229>Russia was under no threat of attack or invasion and NATO wasn't letting Ukraine join.Do you even know what the fuck a security dilemma is? Do you know why Trump was impeached the first time? Do you know anything? Please stop responding with nonsense. You're wasting my life.
>>536449280Ok faggotRussia's military has doubled in size sincd 2022 and have 3 million vets that already did thier manditory service that can be called back.>when your army doubles in size you get weaker!Meanwhile ukraine has 500,000 men in hiding left to fill thier ranks. They will have to start kicking down doors to get them.
>>536449010kvetch harder zigger it is all russias doing for keeping bad relationships with its neighborseverything that has happened is on russia
>>536449229you faggot it was always abouy dobasd where it all started. They know they can't get rest of part but this what putin put all his political career in gamble. They have captured the 88% of dobass the rest of the 5000km2 that mattter is the seize of fortess belt. If 70% of the last area is not achived putin career would be over. Also Ukraine isn't going to much of the rest of the part that russia occupies so even his career would be over with it if this war ends in either way.
>>536449401>muh bordersDo you even know anything about Eastern Ukraine you retarded ass NAFO shill?
>>536449473about donbas*sry typo
>>536444127>>energy crisis is finally hitting homeIt's the beginning of summer, even with the Hormuz blocked energy isn't a pressing issue for months.>>EU and US funding drying up, Ukraine is looking at a wall of debtUkraine has years of funding already committed to it. Where exactly are you getting your information or are you just making up stuff and hoping it's true?
>>536443699What happened with «Ukraine should win on battlefield idea»?
>>536449091>but again what else can they do by any desperate move to just barely keep things going and hope something changes.Honesty?If Putin simply returns Mongolia to us, he can secure at least $1 trillion in low-interest loans, to be repaid in 20 installments.Or Putin can continue to flounder in the quagmire of Ukraine until the Russian economy plunges into a massive recession.
>>536449499uh oh zhill is angryfirst he deflects
>>536443699War is pointless atm, but ((someone)) ruined all agreement reached in last autumn, It will not end this year,According to agreement between Trump and Putin Ukraine should have had retreated from remaining donbass citadels before end of May, they did notRussia started sieges, cities will be ruined, so new peace terms during possible negotiations (not earlier than winter-spring 2027) will include new belt of still undamaged cities in kharkov, sumy and zaporozhie regionRussia can suffer such loses and damage for decades, Ukrainians are not endless and they are losing 10-15 times more dead & they cant repair damage to hard assets, most of them are gone until end of the war, its not an argument.((someone)) does not want this war to end, so fasten your belt, we will have a lot of happenings
>>536449401Let me posit a scenario for you.Imagine you were a country next to China. Imagine your country didn't exist until thirty years ago. And imagine that its territory was created from lands historically occupied by multiple ethnicities. And that Chinese were a third of the population.Should you A) Treat the Chinese minorities as equals and maintain good relations with China. Or B) Treat the Chinese minorities as second-class citizens, ban their language and religion, and call for them to be hanged and/or expelled?The real question is, why would anyone choose B?
>>536443699Who are you quoting?Did you forget you're supposed to be some random person having a conversation and not just regurgitating whatever material your handler gave you?
>>536449889we have shitloads of ethnic russians here you know what their problem is? they refuse to integrate they keep talking about their glorious russia and how wonderful it is without going back therethey have no interest to play nice with others because its all part of the plan to subjugate and expand the russian empirethe 5th column put themselves in that position when they opened their mouths and started shilling for russiai know it they know it and they know everybody knows it but they keep playing dumb and still openly saying one thing while privately saying other thingsthis is what happened in ukraine the 5th column got their orders from moscow and got laughed out by ukrainianswhich brings me back to my post where i say that russia is 100% at fault for ruined relations with neighbors because they are subhumans that cant help themselves
>>536450312>we have shitloads of ethnic russians here you know what their problem is? they refuse to integrate they keep talking about their glorious russia and how wonderful it is without going back thereAlright, what are you going to do about the Narva problem? Go to war?
>>536450312Regardless, the fundamental problem is that Ukraine is not a real country.
>>536449353>What about a bunch of non-sequiturs and buzzwords that don't actually address or counter your point?!Hundreds of thousands of russians rotting in the mud, billions, trillions, of dollars in damage to their country and economy, none of it had to happen.If girkin hadn't "pulled the trigger" >>536449552 the whole big "genocide" and "existential threat" would have ended with a couple dozen foreign agents arrested.
>>536450312Which really begs the question, when should you fight over borders?
>>536449473>They just added the other territories to their constituation as a joke! Never wanted them!Lmao
>>536450338aha at last the zigger drops his pretense and shows his real intentionsyou have just undone all of your previous shillposts. thank you ziggerstill fuck you tho
>>536443699Ukraine can surrender unconditionally any time.The process of denazification will proceed.
>>536443699>chinkyour entire alliance is made up of literal retarded savages. ruskies were the supposedly smart and powerful ones, and look at em.just drop the commie neocoldwar shit and you guys can just annex russia and lets be done with this already
>>536450407It was bound to happen regardless. Just because it was Girkin at that moment and not someone else at a different time doesn't mean things weren't inevitable.Regardless, this was never about Ukraine vs Russia. This was about America using Ukrainian useful-idiots to install anti-Russian leaders.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzXl7nX2rp8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZLFmpLDPkThe question then is, why did the United States spend tens of billions of dollars trying to subvert Ukraine even prior to 2014? Why do we want Ukraine so badly? What was the plan?
>>536450455It was a real question. And keep in mind, you're speaking English right now.
>>536443699What happened to not negotiating with Putler?
>>536450399They seem to be proving that wrong as they continue to exist despite Russia's best efforts regardless of how many namefag and vpn jeet shills jewtin gets to cope and lie for them online.
>>536444921> how does Russia "win" this war?By their enemy running out of soldiers or money.
>>536450692Gotta love attrition.
>>536443699>This war has been utterly pointless.No, we all learned that our training, strageies and tactics are obv not working. In easier words, MMA and Sambo bad.
>>536450312>talking about their glorious russia and how wonderful it is without going back thereSo being proud to be white offends you?What kind of faggot cares if somebody else is proud of thier race?
>>536450559>It was bound to happen regardlessFor once I agree, jewtin wasn't gonna hold back his imperialistic blood lust just if girkin had failed.Russia was emboldened by the success of sending in troops to round up politicians and claim an organic separatist movement in crimea and tried to repeat it but one way or another Putin was determined to try to reclaim all former Soviet satellites.
>>536450733Clausewitz knew his shit obviously. Feidnwirkugn is the most important thing - effect on the enemy. People for some reason forgot that long ago and think warfare is a sports match you can win on points or decisions.
>>536445473> If we defeat Russia, we will easily defeat China.If China doesn't want Russia defeated it won't happen.
>>536443699>This war has been utterly pointless.but globohomo wound up being unable to release pathogens from hunter's biolabs
>>536450844>If China doesn't want Russia defeated it won't happen.Correct again. You Germans are on fire today.
>>536447505> sacrificing more of the nation’s interests simply to keep the war goingThe main and most important national interest is remaining a sovereign nation.
>>536450806Saying Russia is White is like saying AmeriZOG is WhiteYou're simply mistakenBefore you seethe: can you explain why Wagner is "Africa Corps" now?
pussya can't win this war even if it tried going nuclear.Ukraine has been beating them back at every single point and causing massive casualties to puccya, now the pidor ziggers are scrambling for peace, where have I seen this before?Ukraine won.
>>536448891> definition is of "total victory"Simply the destruction of all means of an enemy to wage war.
>>536450948So you are telling us the Russians in Estonia arent white?Its like you cocksucking shills will say anything.Notice he has no problems with the millions of shitskin migrants in Estonia on welfare.
>>536450806the most niggerish post i read todaythe other shill is jew you are nigger
>>536443699But the war worked. The alternative was Putin taking complete control of Ukraine and using it to mess with Europe one way or another. Every time in history when Europe's largest army started moving, it went as far as it could. Luckily, this time, it could move only a couple hundred kilometers from its borders. This is good news for the civilized world.
>>536451162>glowniggers sayThe ISS wants to replace Estonians with shitskins like you.
>>536450438It is what's called face saving. They can't take rest of kherson due to geographical reason and rest zaporizhzhia isn't strategically thar important. They could just do the korean war permanent seize fire move and add them to their territory. The main game is the rest of donstek the fortess belt. Without it putin is gone. Though zelensky would also not survive since the likely scenerio is hardliners come in power and assassinates zelensky as soon as he steps down from power.
>>536451116>So you are telling us the Russians in Estonia arent white?Are they worshiping asiatic nigger-mutts and acting like niggers themselves.There, you have your answer. If it looks like a nigger, quacks like a nigger, and wants to subvert your country like a nigger: it's a nigger.
>>536449229Zelensky announced nuclear rearmament of Ukraine at the Munich Security Conference shortly before Russia invaded. Should the Russians have waited until nukes are deployed and ready to use?
>>536449388> They will have to start kicking down doors to get them.I will hide hoholinas in my basement.
>>536451370if its security guarantees under the 1994 Budapest Memorandum were not upheldAfter Russia had been building up forces for over a year to invadeAfter Russia had already invaded in 2014After Russia had already annexed territory (even separate from what they invaded) by sending military to literally shutdown and replace the Crimean parliamentAfter Russia had been trying to test the boundaries of the agreement on the borders they'd just signed within the last decadeAfter funding separatists in Ukraine since 2005
>>536451492>After Russia had been building up forces for over a year to invadeExcept it was Zelensky that activated 500,000 reservists in 2021 and moved them to the border, faggot shill.Then ukraine started shelling Donbas on Feb 19th of 2022 so Russia invaded 5 days later
>>536451492doesn't matterillegal nuclearization makes you automatically a rogue state
>>536451275>face savingYeah, they utterly failed at virtually all of their objectives which is why you need to cope that they just want one part(that they still can't fully take) to save face.
>>536451440Actually most ukrainians hide from the jews in thier attics.They read it works in a book somewhere
>>536451370Why should russia be allowed to have nukes but not ukriane when Russia is the one that keeps chimping out on their neighbors and threatening to nuke everyone?
>>536451248> let me tell you about your country stfu retard. Let me know when you overcome racism in your shithole.
>>536448802>What Putin needs is to permanently secure Russia's western border.Just join the EEA. Don't even have to join the EU proper.Just join the EEA and start tightening economic bonds.The EU and its economic partners aren't interested in war at all.The truth though. is that Russia - or rather; Putin - cannot accept that.Putin still has ridiculous hallucinations of grandure, thinking he can restore the greater Russian tsarist empire.That's all his landgrab is about. He is obsessed with a centuries old has-been claim to ancient glory.
>>536451651>illegal nuclearization makes you automatically a rogue stateI agree, russia must be dismantled, the world isn't safe as long as they have nukes.
>>536450838> Clausewitz knew his shit obviously.Yes and he said that every war is started by the defender, not by the attacker. But people don't want to know this as it seems counterintuitive.
>>536451740>Let me know when you overcome racism HAHAHAShitskin confirmedTell us more about how straight white Christian males are the biggest threat to the USA
>>536451621>Except it was Zelensky that activated 500,000 reservists in 2021 and moved them to the border, faggot shill.Incorrect. They passed a law increasing the allowance of potential reservists to be called up, not activating them. This was in response to the Spring 2021 moving of troops to the Ukrainian border that they did.Why is Wagner now Afrika Korps?
>>536451724>>536451760because if you utilized your 80 iq negroid brain, you would reach the conclussion that if any country could nuclearize on its own whims or personal grudges, then the chance of an eventual global nuclear conflict would go up exponentiallyfrom your own subhuman hohol expat POV perhaps your conflict is the greatest thing to have ever happened on the planet, but in reality you are just another disposable little country
>>536444596>75 to 65Wow, it's nothing.
>>536443699Nothing ever happens, chuddie. I see let's keep that shit going and once we run out of ukrainians let's feed them polakikes or fingolians. They're not European anyways they're just inhabitants of a buffer zone between us and russniggers
>>536451847> usAre fucking insane? Also, Kill hwitey.
>>536451848Jan 2021: 300,000 in ukraines armyJan 2021: 900,000 in ukraines armySo where did the troops come from troon shill>muh AfricaFuck off nafo troon
>>536451863>that if any country could nuclearize on its own whims or personal grudges, then the chance of an eventual global nuclear conflict would go up exponentiallyIf security guarantees are not upheld, the only answer is nuclear deterrence.Same argument that kikes make about desert shitholes by the way. Iranians getting a nuke would instantly bring peace to the middle east.
>>536451964*Jan 2022 900k troops
>>536451621>The Biden administration got information on a potential Russian invasion as early as March 2021>>536451744
>>536451964>900,000 in ukraines armyA reserve force isn't "the army."
>>536449280>wants to be the USA of americaWe deliberately don't want to do shit, it's our policy for the last 2 centuries to just be a commodity country, sit back and not play that game, even when we genocided the entirety of paraguay we still didn't take their shit.
>>536443699Real post.>We killed enough Ukrainians and me and my other jewish friends are happy with results.>It's time to start building Israel 2.0.
>>536450995> Ukraine has been beating them back at every single point and causing massive casualties to puccyaYes, but at what cost? They will eventually lose the war because they can't afford as many sacrifices as Russia in this war of attrition.
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>>536450995Ukraine wonRussia wonretards from NAFO and Russ shills are dumb as fuck... jewtin and jewlensky are just killing native population and replacing them with muslims. KEK muh Ukraine and muh Russia. HAHAHAHAHA you truly are a NPC niggers. Braindead without 0 insight.
Anyone who has been tricked into supporting the ukraine war effort needs to understand that this war A) was preventable and B) could have ended with better terms YEARS ago, and with far fewer casualties...They're going to get a deal that is as good or worse than what was on the table in 2022-2023. All this rah rah, nafo cheering on the war bullshit has only served to get endless amounts of ukraine people killed. No, Russia was never going to try to take over all of Ukraine. You're literally retarded if you think that is the case. This was a bullshit war... a pissing contest...Zelensky has the blood of his people on his hands. As people see him sail away in a 50 million dollar boat with bags of USD, and gold, just think about what giant faggots you people have been for nearly 5 years talking about "Ukraine is winning!" You people are retarded.War is cringe.
>>536452167Ukraine keeps constantly getting newer and more advanced weapons from the west, whereas pussya is unable to replenish its losses, being forced to scrounge museums for old 50s scraps to be thrown into the meat grinder.They already lost 2 million ziggers gaining what? Absolutely nothing, almost losing kursk in the process.
>>536451724Why should America be allowed nukes but not Cuba?Cuba never attacked the US but the US attacked Cuba.
>>536452258>deflecting, downplaying, victim-blamingthis shill post has it all. looks more like a cope post to me
>>536451744Everything you said is either false or retarded.In the first place, no one is interested in war. The idea that anyone, including the United States, is itching for war is absolutely retarded. War is politics by other means. It's a last resort when everything else fails.What actually happened is that, Russia wanted to break NATO. Not with steel, but paradoxically by making NATO obsolete. As the old saying goes, the purpose of NATO is the keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.Russian strategy thus was to create a Russo-German alliance. Basically, the goal was to break Germany from Europe. Because without Germany, there is no Europe. And without Europe, there is no NATO.Let me add, the Russo-German entente is essentially the reason Germany exists in the first place. German unification, and really, the German Empire, was only made possible in league with Russia(see Polish partitions).This is why they not only built Nordstream, but why we blew it up, and why we hacked Angela Merkel's phone, and even why Victoria Nuland said "Fuck the EU", and why both Germany and France famously opposed NATO expansion, and the 2014 coup.As for Europe, NATO, and war. Again, this is absolutely fucking retarded because it is a complete misunderstanding of why wars happen in the first place. Europe only wants peace insofar as peace is advantageous. The problem was that, the status quo(see world order) was simply unsustainable regardless of the 2014 coup.To put it simply, Europe has no resources. It lives off buying cheap commodities from the Middle-East and Russia, and selling manufactured goods back to those countries at a profit. This system is only possibly because of American power, and can only be sustained by American buying power(see world's reserve currency). Brics, or really to the point, China, will necessarily end the "American century". And Europe either must find a new sugar-daddy, or perish. Or upend the world order via war.
>>536452258> Zelensky has the blood of his people on his hands.Hohols are not "his people", Jews are.
>>536443699russians have to take kiev and control ukraine. They have to make the jews create a new narrative for why their proxy army is trying to destroy russia which is very hard for zog. Can't actually say poland or moldova is sick of russias anti democracy lack of LGBT new polish president Wołodymyr Zełenski needs our help fighting putin.
>>536443699The Europe is still rearming, but the Goynited Fats of Weimerica is focusing on ayyran because the fathers of GEOTUS (Putin and Bibi) are telling him to spend gorillions on some bullshit gulf kerfuffle. How's Ukraine supposed to hold off the turd world alliance?
>>536445329lmfao russia is going to eat shit and die, the birthrates of white russians are atrocious
>>536452590How are our birthrates? Any better?
>>536443699An international council of Jews (not puppets like Zelensky and Putin - whose daughter is fucking niggers and arabs in Paris- decides on how this war will end.It will end with either complete destruction of Russia (and thus a victory for international Jewry, since Russia is the source of all evil directed towards Israel the past 70 years, and the source of all evil on the planet). Or it will end with complete capitulation of Ukraine and restoration of the Soviet Union, with Jews joining the side of "evil" (A good thing for the Jews since Jews are the master race and we need Nuremberg race laws to preserve the Jewish race, and also everyone is taking gibs fron Jews). Or jews won't join the evil side but simply have options and freedon of action.So Jews win either way.According to my calculations, Russia will win.You guys see the hezbullah FPV footage? That is from Russia. Russians have that and better, they are just not showing the footage.To be quite honest, I want Russia to win, because I don't want to have to suck up to faggots and women and shitskins, nor the faggot white race for that matter.
>>536452042Reserves are part of the army You faggots dont get to redifine words to win arguements
>>536452661You can always steal more people from, hmm, less fortunate countries.
>>536452514>In the first place, no one is interested in war. The idea that anyone, including the United States, is itching for war is absolutely retardedTell that to:>Somilia>Afganistan>Iraq>Libya>Syria>And about 8 nations in Africa
>>536452725then what happened little shill? why putin not once called out the jews but instead sucks them offjewtin is doing the work for his masters and therefore whole russia does work of jews>muh mighty deep mysterious russian soullol no you are imbeciles and spiritual niggers that attacked europeit is better if russia sinks to the bottom of sea like atlantis
>>536452661We don't lose 1 million Germans a year in a stupid war for starters...
>>536452783>>Reserves are part of the armyReservists are only called in response to threats to national security. If there's no threat to a national security of a state, then they're not active-duty. You just said that they were "activated." But they were never called up, being reservists. So which is it?Why is Wagner now Afrika Korps?
>>536453098You are a cocksucking faggot pulling shit out of your ass and posting it.You have no idea what you are talking about
>>536453184Can you show me where the reservists were activated in 2021, as you claimed?
>>536452912> it is better if russia sinks to the bottom of sea like atlantisOnly because you wearing Estonian flag. Atlantis is meta-physical, not real the main point is Atlantis was perfect Ist est complete that’s why it’s perished. It’s the same motif as Ülemiste vanake.
>>536452725jews aint winning shit iran has multiple nukes now fpv drones are lighting up yids in lebanon. Russian tech made greater israel obsolete
>>536453317ma usun et oli olemas ja läks põhja ma istun oma mätta otsas ja usun edasi
