Nearly every "Christcuck" or "Rabbi Yeshua" poster on /pol/ distorts Christian teachings to lie to people about what Christians believed. Pic VERY much related. It's basically trying to claim that Christianity was pro Usury whereas pagan Europe was anti Usury. The opposite is fucking true, Athenian pagans were infamous for practicing usury and are basically where the Jews stole the practice from, and the Roman pagan patrician elite practiced the same thing to a large extent. Meanwhile Christianity explicitly ends the Mosaic Law and classes ALL usury as sin.Secondly, Christians don't worship "the Jews", especially not the talmudic cult who call themselves Jews today, who are an extension of the oral law following Pharisees who killed Jesus. It is made clear that "There is neither Jew nor Greek", i.e. that Jews are not a uniquely chosen people. Anyone who wanted to honestly criticise Christianity would not distort and lie about this rudimentary information about the religion. In fact, it fits Jewish argumentative strategies to a T.
>>536456427Eat shit faggot
>>536456427eat shit faggot
>>536456427Okay so when are you banning usury?
>>536456427>Why the fuck are anti-christians so dishonestBecause nobody wants them. They are NEVER welcome in any country.This makes them lash out against their betters.
>>536456427
>>536456427I think interest should be a function of risk to the lender. So if you give someone your whole life savings, you get to charge a lot of interest. But if you're a huge bank and you have the resources to repossess assets and you loan out a small fraction of your reserves then you can't charge any interest beyond what's needed to operate
>>536456499You first talmudist.Jewish beliefs are literally built on satanic Rabbinical misinterpretations of the Old Testament. From Johannes Eisenmenger's "Endeckten Judenthum":concerning which the book Zerór hammór, fol. 161, col. 2, in the Parascha Ve-zóth habberachá, contains the following written: שיקבלוהאומותכלאלהלךהשםכיידועוגו׳שיקבלוהלישראלבאכךואחרלברכהזכרונםכמאמרםלקבלהרצוולאהתורהאת: that is, It is known thatGod went to all nations so that they should receive the Law, but they were unwilling to receiveit, as our Rabbis, of blessed memory, report. Thereafter He went to the Israelites so that theyshould receive it, &c. This, however, the foolish Rabbis wish to prove, in an absurd manner,from the words of Deut 33:2, which read as follows: The LORD came from Sinai, and rose upfrom Seir unto them; He shone forth from mount Paran. Concerning which, in the Talmudictractate Avóda sára, fol. 2, col. 2, the following is written: יוחנןרביאמרבפארןבעיומאיבשעירבעימאיוקבלוהישראלאצלשבאעדקבלוהולאולשוןאומהכלעלבה”הקשהחזירהמלמד: that is, What do the words“from Seir” signify? and what do the words “from Paran” signify? Rabbi Jochanan has said:these teach that the Holy, blessed God carried it around among all peoples and tongues (andoffered it to them), but they did not accept it, until He came to the Israelites, who accepted itIt's literally just satanic schizos misinterpreting the OT to justify their supremacy and stealing from others>You are a brood of vipers and of your father, the Devil- Jesus
>>536456427i used to care about theology posting too but then i realized this board is completely useless and irrelevant. it's just illiterate larpers who don't care about actual history. save your breath bro nobody here reads books anyway
>>536456756You’re all the same garbage. Kys maggot
>Why the fuck are anti-christians so dishonest Because they are jews.
>>536456427Because anti-Christians come in two flavors.1. Jews. This is most common when you see someone comparing Christians to jews. Your average kike knows that he's revolting and reviled, so he simply draws comparisons with himself and presents it as though he were a third party. He might believe that Christ is burning in a lake of liquid shit, but he'll still firmly attest that Christ is a jew for the purposes of undermining Christianity.2. Retarded shabbos goys. You don't see so many of these since Atheism+ bombed, but some of them are still around. They still believe the Dark Ages were created by Christianity and that Family Guy's promise that we'd all be driving flying cars and living on Mars if not for Christianity building western civilization is all an irrefutable and accurate prediction.
Total Abrahamic Death
>>536456576The fallacy here is usually a form of tu quoque ("you too") or, more broadly, an appeal to hypocrisy.The structure is:Person A: "Usury is wrong."Person B: "Okay, so when are you going to stop Usury?"Person B isn't addressing the claim ("Usury is wrong"). Instead, they're trying to undermine the speaker by implying hypocrisy or inconsistency. Even if Person A were not individually capable of stopping Usury, that would not make the statement "Usury is wrong" false.
>we're the REAL children of yahweh the foreskin snatcher!Kill all Christcucks.
Embarrassing. They worship kike theology, claim to SUPERSEDE the penis mutilation covenant. It's just RETARDED and not "White" at all.
>>536456427Why did Christians ban usury only from the goyim and give jews a monopoly on it?
>>536456499>99Christianity is nonsense. Christians necessarily believe that a middle easterner from 2000 years ago will reappear one day and bring billions of the dead back to life. There might be problems with other religions, but they don't believe anything as retarded as that.You're much better off worshipping Columbina.
>>536456499>>536456547go back to india, jeets.I hate abrahamics golems, but also brahamist jeets.>>536456821this is a clear example, christcucks can only assume like schizo kikes.you faggot are the only delusional retards that think your fairy tale cults are not part of kikery.Literally brainrot.
>>536456912So the New Testament specifically says to never get circumcised, biblical circumcision was only the pink tip off the edge and maintained full function (brit milah, not brit periah), and the fact that Jesus died on a cross does not mean we covertly worship a planet (schizo moron)
>>536456427>DeuteronomyWhat's that? The study of Deuters?
>>536456427>Why the fuck are anti-christians so dishonestAnon...>[Jhn 8:44 KJV] 44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
>>536456821>They still believe the Dark Ages were created by ChristianityIt absolutely was. Christian's vandalism of the antiquity is very well known. Its Christian apologist who don't want to accept that they destroyed the Temples and most of the literature. There is one critic of Christianity that only survived because a Christian tried to rebut his argument and cited his entire work verbatim. We got the Dark Ages because all of the knowledge was lost. Europe didn't have anything close to the aqueducts until the late 1800s.
>>536457125>new testamentWhich inherently gives legitimacy and "legacy" to the OLD testament and the OLD covenant and the OLD god. IRRELEVANT to me as I am not a kike you retarded nigger.
>>536456997## The Differences and OriginsBrit Milah and Brit Periah are two distinct stages of Jewish ritual circumcision. In traditional rabbinic law, a circumcision is incomplete without both steps, but they have completely different definitions, actions, and historical origins.Traditional Jewish Circumcision ── Step 1: Brit Milah (Cutting of the outer foreskin) ── Step 2: Brit Periah (Tearing the inner membrane)## Brit Milah (The Cut)* The Action: Milah refers strictly to cutting and removing the outer, overhanging tip of the foreskin.* The Origin: This is the original biblical commandment given by God to Abraham in Genesis 17:10–14. In biblical times, this step alone was the entire circumcision, leaving the inner mucosal lining intact.## Brit Periah (The Uncovering)* The Action: Periah means "uncovering". After the outer skin is cut, the mohel splits and tears the thin inner mucosal membrane, pulling it back to fully expose the head of the penis.* The Origin: Periah is a rabbinic requirement codified in the Mishnah (Shabbat 19:2), which states: "If one circumcises but does not perform periah, it is as if he has not circumcised."## Why They Are Not the SameHistorically, Brit Milah is biblical, while Brit Periah is rabbinic. Mainstream Jewish history records that Periah was strictly enforced during the Hellenistic era (around the 2nd century BCE) and after the Bar Kokhba revolt (135 CE).During Greek and Roman rule, some Jewish men underwent a surgical procedure (epispasm) to stretch their remaining skin and hide their circumcision so they could exercise naked in public gymnasiums. To make this physical reversal impossible and create an indelible boundary marker between Jews and non-Jews, the Rabbis instituted Periah, ensuring the glans remained permanently bare.------------------------------Please reply with "next" or "send part 2" when you are ready for the next section covering Paul's views.1/4
>>536457215https://historyforatheists.com/2020/03/the-great-myths-8-the-loss-of-ancient-learning/
>>536456997## Paul’s View on Circumcision (Part 1)In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul vehemently argued against requiring non-Jewish (Gentile) converts to undergo circumcision. He viewed the act—when forced upon Gentiles as a requirement for salvation—as an abandonment of Christ, a return to spiritual slavery, and an evil disruption of the gospel message.Below are the exact, pertinent verses where Paul outlines his stance using harsh and direct language.## Calling the Insistence on Circumcision "Evil" and "Mutilation"In his letter to the Philippians, Paul uses severe language against traveling teachers who insisted that Gentile Christians must be circumcised to be saved. Instead of using the standard Greek term for circumcision (peritome), he uses a derogatory pun, katatome, which translates to "mutilation" or "concision."Philippians 3:2–3 (NASB):"Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision [mutilation]; for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh..."## Declaring that Seeking Circumcision Destroys the Value of ChristIn his letter to the Galatians, Paul warns the congregation directly that submitting to physical circumcision as a means to fulfill the Law means rejecting the grace provided by Jesus.Galatians 5:2–4 (NASB):"Take notice: I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. And I testify again to every man who gets himself circumcised, that he is obligated to keep the whole Law. You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace."------------------------------Please reply with "next" or "send part 3" when you are ready for the final section.2/3
>>536457125>It was only the tipXDDD you guys are so pathetic.
>>536456427basedthey even lie about even reading the booki'm supposed to believe subhumans who can't read children's novels read the Bible? lol ok
>>536456997## Paul’s View on Circumcision (Part 2)Paul's arguments in the book of Galatians intensify as he exposes the motivations of those pushing the practice and clarifies the spiritual reality of the new covenant.## Wishing the False Teachers Would "Castrate" ThemselvesPaul becomes so exasperated by the agitators troubling the Galatian church that he expresses a wish that the circumcision knife would slip, suggesting they should emasculate or castrate themselves entirely.Galatians 5:11–12 (NASB):"But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate [emasculate] themselves."## Exposing the Motivations of Those Forcing CircumcisionPaul concludes his letter to the Galatians by pointing out that the people pushing circumcision do not actually care about keeping God's law perfectly. Instead, they use it to avoid social persecution and to boast about controlling others.Galatians 6:12–13 (NASB):"Those who desire to make a good showing in the flesh try to compel you to be circumcised, simply so that they will not be persecuted for the cross of Christ. For those who are circumcised do not even keep the Law themselves, but they desire to have you circumcised so that they may boast in your flesh."## Summary of Paul's Theological VerdictFor Paul, forcing circumcision on Gentiles was evil because it fundamentally subverted the mechanics of salvation by faith. He summarized his worldview by stating that physical operations have no spiritual bearing on a person's standing before God:Galatians 6:15 (NASB):"For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation."3/3* (not 4 my bad)
>>536456499>>536456547>>536456997>>536457095>t. You lost tranny
>>536456427Just an honest observation bro but "Christians" and I do think they're Christians but if the normgoy are not calling you Zionist all the time, you are not okay. Just an observation. Christians who are not Zionists are not okay.
>>536457366Rebbe Yeshu literally followed the Talmud.
>>536456997No, it did not start during the Hellenistic period. [1, 2] To clarify the timeline clearly without contradiction:* The Hellenistic Period (3rd–2nd Century BCE) was when the problem occurred. Jewish men used traction methods to pull their remaining skin forward to hide their original biblical cuts (milah). No rabbis were practicing or requiring periah yet. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] * The Rabbinic/Roman Period (2nd Century CE) was when periah actually started. Centuries after the Hellenistic period ended, the Tannaitic rabbis officially introduced and mandated the periah tearing procedure. They did this specifically to retroactively fix the loophole that Hellenistic men had exploited generations earlier. [1, 2, 3, 4] | Era [1, 2, 3, 4, 6] | Timeline | What Happened Regarding Circumcision ||---|---|---|| Hellenistic Period | 323 BCE – 31 BCE | Men stretched their skin (epispasm) to hide their basic biblical cuts. No periah existed. || Roman / Rabbinic Period | 2nd Century CE (~150 CE) | Rabbis legally mandated periah to make the procedure irreversible. Periah officially begins. |I can provide specific quotes from the Mishna (the 2nd-century CE rabbinic text where this rule is first written down) or explain the surgical difference between the original cut and periah. Let me know what you would like to explore next. [1, 4] [1] [https://www.encyclopedia.com](https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/circumcision-0)[2] [https://en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah)[3] [https://en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah)[4] [https://forward.com](https://forward.com/culture/139100/a-modest-proposal/)[5] [https://www.algemeiner.com](https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/04/08/why-circumcision-is-an-essential-part-of-jewish-identity/)[6] [https://www.cirp.org](https://www.cirp.org/library/history/peron2/)Sorry 4/4 gotta correct dumb ass retard ai
>>536457018Watch this question be completely ignored.
>>536456427Rabbi Yeshua worshippers, ecumenists and christsucks are actually practising satanists who are trying to confuse people into following the antichrist they are preparing. I wonder who they'll actually present to us as a fake messiah.
>>536457366>can't face realitymany such casesTOTAL ABRAHAMIC DEATH & TOTAL BRAHAMIST DEATH
>Why the fuck are anti-christians so dishonest>The opposite is fucking true, Athenian pagans were infamous for practicing usury and are basically where the Jews stole the practice fromI appreciate the irony anon
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. …Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. — Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922
>>536457451## Part 1: The Linguistic Reality of "Rabbi"Calling Jesus "Rabbi Yeshua" as an official clerical title is historically inaccurate. In the early first century, "rabbi" was not a formal title, a religious office, or a institutional designation.* The Literal Meaning: The word rabbi comes from the Hebrew root rav, meaning "great." With the possessive suffix, rabbi translates to "my master" or "my great one."* Informal Respect: In Jesus' lifetime, it was an informal term of address. It was equivalent to saying "Sir," "Master," or "Teacher" in English.* The Gospel Context: When the Greek New Testament records people calling Jesus "Rabbi" (such as in John 1:38), the text explicitly stops to translate it: “Rabbi (which translated means Teacher)”. It described his functional role as a preacher, not an institutional office.------------------------------Please reply with "next" to receive the next part regarding the non-existence of Rabbinic Judaism.
>>536457451## Part 2: The Non-Existence of Rabbinic JudaismApplying the clerical title "Rabbi" to Jesus projects a post-destruction institutional framework backward onto a completely different historical era.* Second Temple Sects: First-century Judea was defined by Second Temple Judaism, a highly fractured landscape. Authority was held by Temple priests (Sadducees), apocalyptic sects (Essenes), and political elites, not ordained rabbis.* The Post-70 CE Shift: The institutional title of "Rabbi" and the process of formal ordination (semicha) were created after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE.* The Rise of the Rabbi: When the Temple was destroyed, the sacrificial system ended. The Pharisaic movement evolved into Rabbinic Judaism to preserve Jewish life through localized text study, transforming the informal term of respect into an official title. Jesus died decades before this system was established.------------------------------Please reply with "next" to receive the section regarding the absurdity of the Talmud claims.
>>536456427Um...who's an Israelite? That doesn't sound like 99% of Christians...
>>536456427All hail sky daddy
>>536457270>NO NO NO THEY DIDN"T DO THAT SEE THIS CHRISTIAN APOLOGIST SAYS OTHERWISELook, we have physical evidence they defaced Statues. Why do we then suddenly believe they didn't destroy works they didn't like or temples they didn't like? They just defaced a few statues and called it a day? That's retarded.Also>https://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/gi0_vandalism.htm#classical
>>536457451## Part 3: The Absurdity of the Talmud ClaimClaiming that Jesus followed the Talmud is an absolute chronological impossibility. The Talmud did not exist during the first century, and its core concepts were compiled centuries later.* The Timeline of the Mishnah: The earliest layer of the Talmud is the Mishnah. This text, which codifies Jewish oral traditions, was not edited or committed to writing until around 200 CE by Rabbi Judah the Prince [1].* The Timeline of the Gemara: The commentary on the Mishnah, known as the Gemara, was compiled even later. The Jerusalem Talmud was completed around 400 CE, and the Babylonian Talmud was finished around 500 CE [1].* An Absolute Anachronism: Projecting a text compiled 170 to 450 years after Jesus' death back into his lifetime is a severe historical error. Jesus could not read, study, or follow a corpus of literature that had not yet been conceived or written down.------------------------------Please reply with "next" to receive the final section regarding the Mesorah (Oral Tradition) and why Jesus opposed it.
>>536457451## Part 4: Opposition to the Mesorah (Oral Tradition)The claim that Jesus followed rabbinic traditions completely ignores the central conflict that led to his execution. Jesus spent his public life explicitly opposing the Mesorah—the "tradition of the elders" or Oral Law—pushed by the Pharisees.* Defining the Mesorah: The Pharisees claimed that alongside the written Torah, God gave Moses an unwritten Oral Law (Mesorah) passed down through generations. They argued this oral tradition held equal authority to scripture.* The "Commandments of Men": Jesus vehemently rejected this concept. In Mark 7:8, he directly accuses the religious leaders of abandoning scriptural commands for human innovation: "Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men."* The Core Conflict: Jesus routinely violated their oral hedge around the law, such as their specific oral regulations regarding Sabbath work and ritual handwashing.* The Fatal Clashes: The Pharisees viewed his defiance of the Mesorah as a dangerous subversion of societal and religious order. This direct conflict over religious authority was the primary theological driver that led the leadership to hand him over to the Romans to be executed.------------------------------We have completed the historical breakdown of this topic. If you would like to continue, let me know if you want to look at specific New Testament verses where Jesus denounces the Pharisaic traditions or examine the historical timeline of the Council of Jamnia.
>>536457215No, all knowledge was NOT lost. The knowledge that was retained was almost entirely kept in Christian monasteries, and these monasteries also acted as pre-1800s universities/colleges in many cases. You have modern biology and inheritable traits due to the work of Gregor Mendel, a monk. Christians also created the first hospitals and orphanages in Europe.You're fucking welcome. The "Dark Ages" had nothing to do with knowledge, but with the collapse of civic and public order after the fall of the Roman empire. Christians made it LESS bad than it could have been, not more bad.You're welcome, heathen.
>>536456427I mean can you really blame them for this misunderstanding when the average Evangelical Christian doesn't even understand basic Christian theology like the fact that the second covenant replaced the first covenant and Mosaic law? So many Churches spend 90% of their time preaching and teaching from the Gospels, Acts and Revelations and rarely cover anything Old Testament except for Gensis, and often barely touch Paul's letters too. The whole purpose of Christianity is to say that all these laws and rules in scripture do not apply anymore, that Jews have fulfilled their purpose by bringing forth the Messiah (Jesus) and are no longer God's chosen or part of any covenant, that quotes like OP pic are irrelevant going forward.But Christians and anti-Christians alike are guilty of quote mining the Old Testament to make arguments about the moral position of Christianity. It all comes down to the bad theological standards that have plagued the US since before the US even federalised. The majority of US Churches were founded by preachers with zero theological training going all the way back to the colonial era.
Oh sweet summer child.
>>536456427>>536456885Are you even against usury?>Absolutely.So then you're against predatory loans? and want regulations to get rid of them?>Whoa whoa whoa! We can't regulate things! And how dare you call them predatory?! That's laoded! Banks, billionaires and corporations can do no wrong! You lazy liberals... blah blah blahSame old story. Christians defending usury.
>>536457451The talmud was written 500 years AFTER Christ, and the whole entire reason for them to write the talmud is to slander Christ because they hated him. Modern talmudism is not ancient Judaism but a newer religion such as Islam. Christendom is older than modern "judaism" such as modern jews are khazarian converts and not semites.
>>536457523Dumb ass illiterate imbecile with no knowledge of anythingSee:>>536457706>>536457735>>536457767>>536457800
>>536457523hello khazar
>>536456427You worship a jewish rabbi who is called "rabbi" 17 times in the new testament, your source for his entire life comes from jewish rabbis, you venerate the Torah, which is the holy book of the jews, you name yourselves and your kids after jews, you espouse jewish virtues as your own virtues, and despite you screeching about the Pharisees, your religion comes from a Pharisee named Saul, who wrote 28% of the NT and is the DIRECT progenitor to the modern christian religion. Ask any pastor or priest.You'll lie about this of course, because that's what christkikes do. Hence why you're called christkikes. You act like kikes.
>>536456427jews have been an issue for so many people throughout history that every single culture has legends that are blatantly warning about jews. They've been an issue for so long that we have legends that are millennia old warning about them ..But yeah, Jesus is the only jew across thousands upon thousands of years and the entire Earth that is not only good, but absolute good. Even if you were to accept that God came down to the Earth to be a shepherd to save as many souls as possible, He would most definitely not come down as one of the people who have been a thorn in everyone's side. Him coming as an Inca or a Korean or a Sentinelese would make more sense than a jew. He was born a jew, but he's different bro is your only cope.As far as his teachings, it's the exact same story as just about every other Mediterranean pantheon. Just self-inserted jews into it as some sort of special people. Such an obvious con. Not saying the teachings are wrong, just that by now you should know that anytime jews are involved they completely distort the core meaning/purpose to benefit their own.
>>536457018https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FtbFEpcHQU
>>536456427When all is said and done, and since Pagan Europa has ceased to be a thing for millennia now; where does the unprecedented amount of usury (to the point that it's a current standing for Central Banks to publish their usury rates front-page and center) come from?>Jewwwwwsirrelevant, on their own, population-wise and influence-wise. you can view jews as a parasite, their introduction into any new environment will be the responsibility of their host (be it rats in medieval Europe or Europeans into the new world.)>Israelwas a failed fantasy project that everyone laughs at the prospect of until Britain created from scratch.>the Old Testament that Christians nullifiedyour scared book that you "nullified"? the text you read religiously as the word of your god, and without which there would be no Israel today nor any Jewish influence in the world?
>>536457317>"IT ONLY WAS A MEDICALLY AND SANITARILY BENEFICIAL AND MOSTLY COSMETIC PROCEDURE THAT STILL MAINTAINED FULL PROTECTION OF THE GLANDS AND FUNCTIONAL ANATOMY"Ftfy, illiterate intellectually pathetic idiot
>>536456499That would not be the vatican, but nice projection attempt with your pic
>>536457921no no you see, hear me out, this is genius: usury is bad right, so let's let just one ethnic group, a particularly nasty, narcissistic and hateful one, practice it while also protecting their existence in ghettos around every major European city while also allowing them to exponentially grow their population, nothing could possibly go wrong
>>536457992Every single christkike argument on /pol/ boils down to >Yeah the jews were really bad, but THESE jews were GOOD jews!>Also they weren't jews>And jews didn't exist then>But the jew we like was killed by the jews>It's complicated. Anyway, believe in talking snakes
>>536457992Can you explain how the Shroud of Turin exists?
But at this point there's no shortage of young useful idiots who werent around for it and have been successfully psyoped not by some deep state conspiracy but by basment dwelling programer sock wearing /leftypol/ commies and do their d&c for them FOR FREE.
>>536457515See?>>536457800Nice spam did you use an AI?>>536457936>MexicoCurious how it's always non-Europeans who tell Europe should be christian. Rebbe Yeshu followed the oral talmud based on which the Talmud was written.
>>536458040Imagine being a cutfag and rushing to the defense of a jewish mutilation ritual that serves zero purpose.
>>536457996>Links a youtube videoWhat is this 2015 flat earth?
>god sure was a piece of shit in the old testament huh>good thing he chilled out and now no longer favors a chosen people and stopped with all the slavery and curses and genocide
>>536458055>"anything too complex for my puny brain is wrong because I can't understand it and I'm super smart so it can't be right I'm never wrong I'm so smart!"Arrogant spiritual nigger
>>536456427what do you expect, /pol/ is filled with ignorants who have not read the Bible or the New Testament but have strong opionions.What the nu/pol/ misses:1. judaism and christianity are opposedWe dont have the same God."kike on a stick" and christcucks:Jesus was from the tribe of Judah, he was judean. While still part of the jews, all jews became christians, and what was left of them were genocided by the Romans in the same century. Today's jews larp as jews but they are...Like mentions many times in the new testament: "jews are the synagogue of Satan"Kinda wierd to mention that? The whole New Testament is about denying/replacing the Old Testament covenant aka the jews being the God's chosen people with the chosen people being Jesus followers of any kind.
>>536456427Christianity is for slaves
>>536456427Modern Christians are pro-usury, pro-war, pro-LGBTQWERTYIIAA, pro-israel, pro-debt, pro-statism, etc...These stupid bronze age mythologies have been harming humanity for far too long. It's time to grow up and move on.
>>536458040As I said pathetic.
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>>536458098Talmudist jews hate Christ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oLRhSNSZeus
>>536458098>d-did you use an ai?>*complete lack of rebuttal*>"m-muh sp-spam!">*doesn't address substance of argument at all*An unbiased computer program explained to you that you are retarded for me, because you are an intellectually irrelevant waste of energy. Enlightened spiritual beings of my calibur automate the task of redirecting such mindless herds of nigger cattle as you. It is both appropriate and ordinate.
>>536458073Sure. It's not real. >1389 Bishop’s Claim: Bishop Pierre d’Arcis of Troyes wrote to Antipope Clement VII alleging that a previous bishop, Henri de Poitiers, had identified an artist who confessed to painting the Shroud as a forgery around 1355. The Catholic Church at the time issued a papal bull saying it was just an "icon". Pope Francis also reaffirmed this. Also, that's not how cloth falls on a dead body. Someone painted it. It's a forgery from an age known for forgeries. Which tracks since it was carbon dated to the 14th century, and there was ZERO record of it prior to that.
>>536458149I'm sorry your arguments conflict with each other and we're laughing at you because you cannot make up your mind about them. You worship a jew, just stop lying about it. Simple.
>>536458104>cutting off a house for bacteria, urine, feces etc. from hairy primitive vagina in era with no soap serves no purposeNigger brainGod's ways are not your ways. His ways are higher than your primitive idiotic ways, understand barbaric heathen and imbecile yet?
they are Indians (very dumb just insult the religion no scriptural understanding) Actual jews (not so dumb,will argue and twist gospel into something else) ans then the trolls who font give a fuck
And they answer with first post.>Outsourced retards
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>>536458228Oy vey!
>>536458104Oh by the way I'm fully uncircumcised and completely oppose modern circumcision because for one it isn't biblical secondly the mosaic law is not what we are commanded to obey anyway and three soap exists now so it has no benefit for sanitation.
>>536457829>no goy you see the knowledge wasn't lost to people it was just very strictly locked down and buried and gatekept for the benefit of the elites and the jews
>>536458162Why do you lie and pretend that Marcionism is even 0.1% of modern christians? In fact, I've never met a single marcionist.>>536458149If every single one of your arguments needs to be a thesis long it usually means it has added on post hoc complexity to handle how every actual observation refutes it. No I don't expect you to understand what words like post hoc mean.
>>536458307My arguments are so conflicting that you can't address one of them in this thread?Yea, nah, 80 iq moron, opinion trashed. Irrelevant and invalid.Concession accepted
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>>536458248Here is Part 1 of the analysis. Let me know when you are ready by typing "next".------------------------------## Part 1: The Scientific ContradictionThe "absurdity" of Bishop Pierre d’Arcis’s 1389 letter lies in a stark conflict between 14th-century ecclesiastical testimony and modern forensic science.When analyzing the claim that an artist "confessed to painting" the Shroud of Turin around 1355, researchers point to several glaring physical and scientific contradictions:1. The Total Absence of Paint or PigmentThe official report by the Shroud of Turin Research Project (STURP) utilized X-ray fluorescence, infrared spectroscopy, and microchemistry to examine the cloth. Their formal conclusion explicitly stated: "No pigments, paints, dyes, or stains have been found on the fibrils of the Shroud linen."* The Image Mechanism: The faint, sepia-colored image of the man is not an additive layer of material. It is caused by the oxidation, dehydration, and conjugation of the polysaccharide structure of the linen fibers themselves.* The Depth: The coloration is incredibly superficial, penetrating only the topmost fraction of a single micron of the fiber surface. No medieval brush could apply paint or liquid without it bleeding through the cloth, yet the reverse side of the Shroud is entirely blank. (Note: While independent microscopist Walter McCrone claimed to find trace particles of red ochre, his findings were heavily disputed by STURP colleagues who concluded those sub-micron particles were accidental environmental transfers, completely insufficient to account for the actual body image).
>>536458073The shroud of turin isn't real, but this might be.
>>536458248Here is Part 2 of the analysis. Let me know when you are ready for the final section by typing "next".------------------------------## Part 2: Advanced Image Properties2. The Negative Photographic PropertiesAn artist painting in 1355 would have had to conceptually understand and manually execute a photographic negative. When Secondo Pia first photographed the Shroud in 1898, he discovered that the light-and-dark values on the cloth are reversed, meaning the "positive" realistic image only appears when looking at a photographic negative plate. Photography would not be invented for another 500 years.3. Encoded Three-Dimensional DataWhen processed through a VP-8 Image Analyzer, the Shroud's image behaves completely differently than any flat, 2D painting or drawing.* A standard painting processed this way results in a distorted, unrecognizable smudge because paint lacks depth data.* The Shroud image possesses mathematically precise 3D topographical information, meaning the intensity of the shading correlates strictly to the distance between a body and a draped cloth. No medieval artistic technique could naturally encode this data.
>>536458310>Mommy and daddy cut my cock off for hygiene! >This jewish book said its a good idea!>I don't know what a bath is!>Better slice my dick!And the Dumbest Goy of the Year Award goes to...
>>536457829>BUT MUH MONESTARIES MUH MONESTARIESThis is peak retard. First, they only kept SOME of the writings. Only 1% survived. The rest were either actively destroyed or they were neglected. They absolutely pick and choose what was saved. Keep in mind the Church put Galileo on house arrest for daring to say the Earth rotated around the sun, something the Greeks already figured out. Do you really think they kept anything on how to actually do shit? Or were they using the paper to write Christian slop (hint it was the latter).It also begs the question. If Christianity was this "savior of knowledge" why were the Christians not able to actually rebuild the empire. Not to mention all the Emperors were Christian till the end. Why did Rome survive for Centuries but within a 100 years of the Christians taking over it fell apart and they couldn't maintain it after being sacked? Maybe it was because Christians were actively engaging in destruction?
>>536458248Here is Part 3, the final section of the analysis.------------------------------## Part 3: The Bishop's MotivesWhy Did the Bishop Make This Claim?If the Shroud physically cannot be a painting, why did Bishop d'Arcis claim it was? Historians look at the socio-political context of the 14th century:* The Relic Economy: The 1300s were a boom era for the highly lucrative "relic trade," which frequently featured massive financial fraud and fake artifacts.* Jurisdictional Warfare: The Shroud was being exhibited by a private nobleman (Geoffrey de Charny) in a local collegiate church in Lirey. The exhibitions were attracting thousands of pilgrims and massive donations, bypassing Bishop d'Arcis's cathedral in Troyes entirely.* Lack of Names or Evidence: Despite writing a long memorandum to the Pope, d'Arcis never named the artist, never produced the alleged confession, and never cited a single witness or document to back up his claim.Ultimately, the claim is viewed as historically fascinating but scientifically impossible: the Bishop was denouncing a "cunningly painted" object, but science has proven that whatever the Shroud of Turin is, it is physically not a painting.------------------------------Now that we have broken down the entire response, let me know if you would like to explore the 1988 radiocarbon dating results or look closer at the chemical composition of the blood stains!
>>536458405Christendom literally hates and loathes jews, that's why jews have spent the last centuries trying to undermine Christendom.
>>536456427In my experince its always the pro christians on this board lashing out or being dishonest, or just low iq in general.
>>536458228Oh I have one of those too
>>536457936And? The torah came first, nobody is saying talmud came before, that doesn't matter.christcucks had already work as intended by that point.If anything, the parasites just want make sure their own mix tribe is not converted into golemhood. After all, the golems are le slaves.
>>536457829>close down every non christian institution of learning by imperial decree>"see guys, we wuz da only knowledge n sheit"not even maoists would sink to this level of gaslighting
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>>536458629lmao. death to christkikes
>>536458577The Eastern Roman Empire was Christian and survived for almost a thousand years and spanish and british Christians formed massive colonial empires
>>536457936you understand that the Talmud is just a compilation of arguments clarifying Old Testament laws, right?and also that the Talmud is just the oral Torah, which was handed down to Moses by yahweh? therefore Jesus followed the Talmud.
>>536458614they are one of the major reasons for the downfall of this board post 2016
>>536458566>"soap/antiseptic/surfactant didn't exist yet = don't know what a bath is"Fallacy used: strawman argumentResult: forfeiture of debate, acceptance of concession.Error: invalid reasoning by addressing imaginary point due to inability to refute true substance of argument
>>536458598>lying this hardHere's a list of everything christcucks and catholicucks have done for jews>christcucks gave jews a legally and religiously guaranteed monopoly on money lending in Europe>2000 years of brother wars to give jews control of europe, many hundreds of millions of White europeans killed.>forced conversions of millions of europeans on threat of death if they refused. Millions of Whites were hunted down and killed for refusing to convert>waged two world wars to give jews control of the rest of the world, killing another 80+ million White people.>helped jews wage the cold war, killing another 40 to 60 million in bolshevik jewish gulags/death camps>defended jews when they commited the holodomor>the church smuggled as many jews out of harms way as it could during every progrom in European history>the church convinced spain to put expelled jews on boats to the new world instead of killing them>the church defended the jewish slave trade by sending White christians to kill berber pirates that attacked the jewish slave ships. >christcucks in America allowed jews to create the federal reserve and completely hijack American finance, and just about every single other industry.>christians in America let jews completely trash their culture VIA holywood and the entertainment industry>christcucks in America have been fighting jewish wars for them since WW1, arguably even the civil war.>christcucks vehemently defend Israel while it robs them blind and fucks them in the ass>the church helped smuggle jews out of the post-collapse USSR, into the US and Israel>the church followed along with, defended, and preached feminist ideology>the church helps smuggle known paedophiles within their ranks around the world to avoid prosecution for their abuse of children>sicut, fucking, judaeisYou absolute drooling retard, I won't fall for your discount jewisj lies.
>>536456427Read this. Look at the date. This is nothing new.
>>536458162>pol/ is filled with ignorants who have not read the Bible or the New Testament but have strong opionions.>"kike on a stick">While still part of the jews>part of the jews>jews
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