BILLIONS of 1 day old chicks are put on conveyor belts leading to BLENDERS every single year.Millions of chicks are killed every year this way in countries like United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain, etcAn individual consumer choosing to purchase or boycott animal products is personally responsible for extra chicks being killed or spared. If you are not vegan you are personally causing this to happen to more animals here’s proofhttps://philarchive.org/rec/MCMAIOhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOc (Only first few minutes of this video are relevant)https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-isAnd the comments and back and forth of this for any objections you may have to the efficacy of individual boycott of real meat which have already been debunked https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1otuhqv/individual_boycott_of_meat_does_matter/
>>536459106part 1
>>536459106>>536459156this is how mcnuggets are made
>>536459106what, you think they should LOSE MONEY humanely putting them down?fucking communist, fuck you
>>536459106Veganism is the ultimate form of toxic empathy
>>536459219their bodies are used for things like fertilizer which is why vegans should try to avoid organic vegan food and stick to cheaper conventional vegan food
>>536459106How many mosquitoes have you killed
>>536459330veganism is retarded but there's literally no reason to not humanely kill the damn thingsstick them all in a room and gas them or something ffs
>>536459106Look man death is just a part of life. You kill bugs everyday.
>>536459106>Ow! Oohf! Ow! >Augh! Ow! Augh!>Aagh! Ow! Aagh!>Oohf! Ow! Oohf!
Thanks for the webm, anonI think I'll get nuggies for lunch
>>536459106Billions of shrews, worms, beetles etc. are killed every single year to make your tofu you faggot.Often by pumping tons of posionous chemicals into the open environment.Worry about that first.
>>536459156>>536459106Americans do this on industrial scale so it perfectly humane, moral and acceptable
>>536459355the Cambridge declaration of consciousness and New York update to it have proven all birds and all mammals are almost certainly conscious and no such evidence exists for insects Also it’s self defense just like a mentally handicapped or insane human trying to kill youIve definitely personally killed thousands of mosquitoes because of my many donations to against malaria foundation and all the extra insecticide treated bed nets ive funded the production and distribution of
>>536459470for every dead make chick in a blender theres an adult hen who must eat multiple pounds of grains to make a single pound of meat or eggs.
>>536459496you're a shameless whore.
can you imagine the pants shitting seethe most people who think this is ok would be experiencing if it was human babies being fed into a grinder like thisI fucking hate hypocrites
>>536459106>If you are not vegan you are personally causing thisI'm not just personally causing this, I'm celebrating it. I like that it happens, vegan. It makes me happy. That it causes you distress makes me happy. If we can somehow increase the numbers, that would make me happier still.
>>536459600I hear trannies seethe hard as hel;l if you cut off your own dick, you want trannies to seethe, right?
>>536459576human babies are not the same as dumb fucking chickens you sick demonic faggot. you will burn in hell for all of eternity and its what you deserve and you know it. you're a filthy pig. you have mixed priorities. sick faggot. go suck a chicken dick since you love them so much.
>>536459106they voted for this.
>>536459414humans die in car accidents and workplace accidents every day but murder is still wrong automatic circumcision and vax machine
We need to make a really big one of those and dump all normies in there
>>536459496Insects have a nervous system and a brain though
>>536459576That’s called abortion and 1 in 4 women has done it in usa and theres over a million every year in USA and it’s still legal for mother by pill multiple months into pregnancy in all 50 states
>>536459643>human babies are not the same as dumb fucking chickensyes they are. they're goy slaves who's lives only matter as long as they are useful, just like chickens. you can seethe all you want, but this isn't a bad thing.
>>536459648this will be humans soon (only white skins)
>>536459648So we should apply human ethics to animals now?
>>536459631>I hear trannies seethe hard as hel;l if you cut off your own dick, you want trannies to seethe, right?In the time that it took you to type that out, hundreds of baby chicks were blendered. I love it. Feel their pain troon, use your magic empathy powers. Cry for them.
>>536459818humans have potential. chickens dont. so you're wrong and you're hellbound.way to go, unenlightened retard.
>>536459869>humans have potentialkek. ok. go to India and let me know how all that potential plays out in the real world. If it weren't for abortion and sensible birth control, most of the "west" would be unlivable hellscapes.
>>536459643see? this man is losing it with seethe over just the thought>>536459835underage b&go stab a teddy bear
>>536459643name the trait shows they are Did one or two non humans give birth to a human thousands of years ago? Would it be moral to eat one or both of the parents but not the child? This dialogue tree has been used by vegans many times in live debates, (feel free to comment on one of their videos, email them, message them on Instagram etc to challenge them to a debate on NTT )https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiGT6ox0Y-Mhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJR5vsrkr9Ahttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQLjgo2TfcMhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtziO8Ffc4&pp=ygUjRHIgQXZpIGRlYmF0ZSB2ZWdhbiBuYW1lIHRoZSB0cmFpdCA%3DIf someone says it's okay to kill a animal and turn them into a burger but not okay to do that to a human and the reason they give is that animals can't reason but humans can they'd have to bite the bullet and say it's okay to turn severely permanently mentally handicapped humans who can't reason into burgers. Or go vegan. Or name another trait(s)>>536459708yes so they may be conscious but they also may not be, also it could be such a tiny amount that it’s way way way less then the least conscious human being i care about where as a healthy adult pig is almost certainly more conscious than the least conscious human being I care about like a few months old fetus
>>536459910like how you liberal vegan faggots want to import indians into our countries. while talking shit about how bad it is over there.hypocrites.you just want to piss on everything sacred while forcing us to watch. fuck the stupid fucking animals. and people like you should be buried in mass graves. save everyone a headache. whiny little faggot.
>>536459404how is that shredder not humane? they are dead in an instant inhumane would be to just dumping them into into a landfill and letting them starve
>>536459821YES if they are trait equalized
>>536460024>fuck the stupid fucking animals.bestiality is illegal, seething pervert
>>536459869severely permanently mentally handicapped human babies don’t but should still have rights
>>536459106big deal, now show it for human babies
>>536460024>like how you liberal vegan faggots want to import indians into our countriesshut up christcuck. jesus christ, your kind is pathetic. I can't believe retards still believe jewish fairytales and need to project anyone who has sensible thoughts as "leftists."
>>536460132holy mother of botposts. this one takes the cake.
>>536460059Don't rationalize too much it's not that deep. If it makes you feel uneasy, it's inhuman. Now there's probably some subconscious logic, that determines what you think is inhumane or not so it helps you empathize and survive but there's no point in thinking that deep.
>>536460087no it isn’t because bestiality laws have exceptions written in to them which make it legal for farmers to artificially inseminate, masturbate , castrate etc animals like pigs and turkeys
>>536460059ok so it's not AS inhumane as dumping them in a landfill to starve or dumping them in a ditch and setting them on fire non-fatally just to then bury them alivebut you can tell it's not as great as you make it sound by this reaction >>536459643
>>536460119It should be illegal and the mother should be jailed if the fetus was old enough to have a significant chance at being conscious (probably around 8 weeks so most abortions) and the mother was not raped (actual rape). It’s still immoral in rape cases thoExceptions for extremely rare cases in which the mother will probably die without the abortion are okayIt’s really the pro life movement faultOnly abortion abolishinists are actually willing to call for women to be imprisonedPro life lawmakers killAbortion abolishinist bills because feminist pro life groups tell them tohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9oAbortion pills which can be easily legally quickly and cheaply or in some cases freely obtained and ordered online work to to 14 weeks legal in all fifty statesThe earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltageslow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yes
>>536459106They are all MALESTOP THE GENDERCIDE
>>536459404Or just grow them and eat them as adults like we did for the rest of history and like non-factory farms still do. The reason they kill them all as chicks is because they're the males of hyper-specialized laying breeds. But there are plenty of breeds that produce a lot of eggs and still grow large enough to be worth eating. This meat grinder shit is entirely in service of chasing marginal increases in profit for a class of people that could lose 90% of their assets and still never want for anything.
This happens very quickly and involves mechanical crushing and cutting so it must also be humane
>>536460224>bestiality laws have exceptions written in to them which make it legal for farmers to artificially inseminate, masturbate , castrate etc animalsthat's not "fucking" them boyo>>536460341>This meat grinder shit is entirely in service of chasing marginal increases in profit for a class of people that could lose 90% of their assets and still never want for anything.this, and that's the "evil" part
>>536459576It's called >abortionSee >>536459740 anon gets itGlobally, there are an estimated 73 million induced abortions each year. This translates to approximately 200,000 procedures every day, meaning 6 out of 10 unintended pregnancies end in abortion worldwide.So while 50% of all chicks, males, are culled it seems 60% of human babies are culled, more than your precious chickens. But when will vegans fight for human life like they do birds? I fucking hate hypocrites
>>536460326Don’t let the server admins draft you while playing MinecraftIn Minecraft if you want to be the ultimate Minecraft neetGet a bow and arrowsGet a chestGet a small shovelGet a Minecraft mod to get Silica Gel Packets Desiccant things they only cost a few emeralds in the modGo to a place NOT NEAR YOUR BASE if someone makes it so you can't even go within 500 blocks of your base you still need to be able to access your chestDig a deep holePut bow and arrow, at least a couple hundred emeralds and the Silica Gel Packets Desiccant things in your chest. Optionally also add stuff like a small sword.Close chest up very tightly.Put chest at bottom of hole and cover with dirt blocks.WHEN YOU GO TO SPOT WHERE YOU WILL BURY THE CHEST LEAVE YOUR MAP AND COMPASS AT YOUR BASE DON'T BRING THEM WITH YOU. IF YOU HAVE A PHONE MOD OR MODERN CAR MOD DON'T BRING THOSE WITH YOU EITHERfinal stepIf you ever become homeless or whatever in Minecraft go dig up your chest and do PvP before jumping into lavaIf you are making a stash in Minecraft don't bury it at your Minecraft base you live at in game bury it somewhere like a public park in the Minecraft server and make sure you bury it somewhere easy to find like next to some sort of landmark in the server.Make sure to keep in mind how deep you bury it like how many blocks and what the frost line is if you have the frost line mod installed on the server. Obviously at least quadruple bag it if you have the plastic bag mods on the server with some very strong airtight bags from the mod and put plenty of dehydrating packets in each bag if you have a desiccant mod
>>536459106I thought it said Chinks lel
>>536460300>killing baby chick in 1 millisecond bad>poisoning your baby for a long painful death with pills goodthanks bro that was ez
>>536459562>only the death caused by your food choises matter, the death caused by mine is irrellevantYou deluded faggots are so fucking braindead your organs wuould be harvested by your masters if you were ever hospitalized for anything.
>>536459106https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5sIspLfmXM&list=RDl5sIspLfmXM&start_radio=1Nom-nom-nom
>>536460381a human being jerking off a pig by hand to collect his semen so he can insert it into a female pig is beastiality.
>>536459106It's not as black and white as you say it is.Not sure how it is in other countries, but in the Netherlands there is a watchdog organization for better and humane treatment of animals for food products. These products are clearly labeled in the super market. Of course it is still up to the consumer if they buy such curated foods or just go for the (non-curated) cheapest option.
>>536460423I'm not a vegan, veganism is retarded for 3 reasons:-we're omnivores-taking your money out of animal products industries just makes them ignore whatever youy have to say since there's no profit to be made from you-all you're accomplishing by it is taking money away from businessess that actually give a shit about doing things humanely, since you're one of the only people that actually cares about that enough to pay slightly more for it>>536460535is his dick hard while he does it?
>>536460493I already said vegans should avoid organic vegan food Most crops are used to feed farm animals not humans
>>536459106>>536459156At least it looks pretty quick.
>>536459106I read "billions of chinks" kek
>>536460578Thats as irrelevant as a human ivf doctor who uses his own sperm on his patients without their consent while unerect
>>536459106Is this hell?
>>536460679>Thats as irrelevant as a human ivf doctor who uses his own sperm on his patients without their consent while unerectand how did he get this sperm from himself without an erection?
>>536460679>no eggs = no valueDO YOU GET IT YET ROASTIES
>>536459106Chick by chick
>>536459106I mean its a little macabre, but not such a big deal. Its a fraction of a second of pain, then nothing. You should focus on the welfare of the birds who live.
>>536460930Shut the fuck up jeet
>>536461414>t. simp who can't even laugh at a shitpost
>>536459106You'll complain about this endlessly, but will you purchase a rooster to eat over a hen?
>>536461525I've never once seen the sex of the bird the meat came from on a pack of chickennot one time
>>536460535>comparing birds of different agesFrankchickens are enough of a problem that you don't have to do this.
>>536461525People do eat roosters, you retard. Meat bird chicks don't get mulched like this. This is only done with laying breeds.
>>536461672Because they're all hens, because rooster meat is tough as fuck and if you have more than one rooster around they will kill every bird around
>>536462252>rooster meat is tough as fuckso just package is as MAN CHICKEN and call every guy unwilling to eat it a pussy that isn't tough enough to handle it, miggers will buy it out overnight if you add that eating it makes trannies seethe
>>536459106Get dunked on chick!
>>536459740>five different stillbirths tossed together for an anti-abortion picone of those cases where the behind-the-scenes of the pic is far worse than what the pic was made for
It is time for revenge
>>536462252All of this is wrong. Meat birds are slaughtered young enough that roosters taste the same as hens and they are sold in grocery stores. Roosters are actually preferable because they're bigger, but the hens still get big enough so, unlike laying roosters, they are not killed as chicks. And multiple adult roosters is totally fine. They will fight some to establish dominance over territory and hens. But they can actually get along quite well, especially when there are either no hens around to fight over or when there are enough hens that they can all have some.
>>536459106Looks awesome.
Really makes you think about how incredibly efficient a 21st century genocide could be if somebody would actually try one. There's no reason you couldn't set up tiny pods to throw people in, do an automatic DNA test on them, and after a couple hours when the results come back either open the chute to the industrial (not legally considered) human grinder, or open the side door with a butler apologizing to you for the inconvenience and a golf cart ready to drive you over to the ethnostate. Remember, kilotonnes of Human meat isn't cannibalism if it's turned into fertilizer and used to grow crops.
>>536460300checkafaik the morning after pill and abortion pills are not the samethe morning after pill is supposedly an emergency contraceptive which stops the egg from being fertilized, so conception never takes place.btw you are doing a great job, nice to see the usual shills are still about, and making you look good via their tired, transparent bullshit. they never have arguments, just "you are tranny/liberal/love niggers/faggot/indian/jew". all of these think thanks believe the way to appeal to anons is to be stupider and meaner than their opponent, and it always backfires in a comical way.
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>>536464407Based
>>536464533No I don’t mean plan b I mean abortion pills that work months into pregnancy
What's interesting about videos like this is they are presented by people who raise no fuss about abortionists who rip a child up in a woman's womb. Please shut your mouth when it comes to morality when you have no realistic way of understanding what morality is.
>>536461371Yes but for every male in blender theres a months old female
>>536459106So?
>>536462863calling a woman who’s neglectful to her unborn child a stillbirth is Reddit shitDrunk sleep deprived unhealthy eating pregnant women are scumbags
>>536464738I already gave YouTube link of anti abortion vegan
>>536460578>-we're omnivoresthis means you can eat either or. you can choose one if you want. you lose nothing by omitting meat from your diet, except chronic health conditions and loads of body fat.>>536460578>-taking your money out of animal products industries just makes them ignore whatever youy have to say since there's no profit to be made from youno, it decreases their market share, hence you being paid to post here. the meat and dairy industry is doing a full court press to try and get people to eat more meat, including bribing the government to come out with an insane diet plan created by industry shills.https://www.newsweek.com/experts-behind-new-food-pyramid-ties-beef-dairy-industries-11328283>Review authors from a variety of academic institutions and hospitals were shown to have affiliations with several dairy and meat groups, including Global Dairy Platform, Danone's subsidiary Nutricia, National Cattlemen's Beef Association, Texas Beef Council, American Dairy Science Association, Seafood Nutrition Partnership National Dairy Council and National Pork Board.>The new food pyramid places proteins—including red meats, chicken, fish, eggs, and dairy products such as whole milk, yogurt, and cheese—at the top, alongside vegetables, fruits, and healthy fats like olive oil and avocados. Seeds and whole grains form the base.-all you're accomplishing by it is taking money away from businessess that actually give a shit about doing things humanely, since you're one of the only people that actually cares about that enough to pay slightly more for ithow about instead of bribing companies to not do fucked up things, we could actually expect more from them, or push for legislation, or even enforcement of current legislation. you keep coming back to "you need to give the meat industry your money". very odd.
>>536459106this planet sucks enough without vegans on it
>>536459156Part 2
>>536465023>it decreases their market share, hence you being paid to post here.you're the blackest gorilla nigger I ever saw if you think someone trying to argue for humane slaughter is a shilldumbass>push for legislation, or even enforcement of current legislation. yes cause this works at all with anything, everit's very simple, you're never going to get enough people to turn vegan to put a dent in their profitability, the best course you can hope for is using the money you give them wisely so they track where it went, and to whomthat has way more of an effect on both them and people in general than trying to force veganism, since most people aren't shits
since you seem kind of slow I'll make it even easier to understand:>you put no money at all into animal products industries = there's nothing they can do to get your money from someone else = they ignore you entirely>you put money into humane animal products industries that AREN'T THEM, they see there's money they COULD maybe have, they try to figure out how to get your money
>>536465371Part 3
>>536466674>starts out as pink slime>ends up as pinkish-brown slimepottery
>>536459496fucking racist
>>536466073plenty of meat companies also have vegan meats too….
>>536467302and hardly any of them sell, lol the couple times I've gone into the store during like covid and shit when they had little to no meat the vegan shit was still packed
they literally have to obfuscate as hard as they can that it's meatless vegan stuff
>>536466674>>536465371>>536459156The sheriff's gotta eat what the sheriff's gotta eat.
>>536459496>he doesn't know honeybees are capable of tool useread today's news
>>536460022So mentally handicapped humans with no conscious should be unalived? Fucking retarded Chud.
>>536459156Kek, how badly does it suck for a split second, for the ones whose feet skip off the blades first?
>>536459106>more than billion of chickens being born every yearIt's not pretty, but this is life. I don't mind if you do the same with Indians and niggers.
>>536465806>>it decreases their market share, hence you being paid to post here.>you're the blackest gorilla nigger I ever saw if you think someone trying to argue for humane slaughter is a shill>dumbassthey literally pay people to do what you are doing, for 17 bucks an hour. and how dare you take the words of st terry in vain, you double redditor.>push for legislation, or even enforcement of current legislation.>yes cause this works at all with anything, everyour argument is that legislation with does nothing? ok, but el salvador would like a word with you, guero.>it's very simple, you're never going to get enough people to turn vegan to put a dent in their profitabilityidk why vegan has to be the end goal, even a drop in meat consumption has the industry shit scared, hence you. basic economics, supply and command. less demand equals less supply over time. otherwise they wouldn't do desperate things like price fixing on a massive scale, even trump talked about it:https://jacobin.com/2025/12/meat-data-price-fixing-lawsuits>According to private and federal lawsuits, the country’s biggest meat processors have been using a secretive data company to share sensitive information, enabling them to hike up prices and suppress wages for decades.>The revelation comes as meat prices have increased precipitously, with rising chicken, pork, and turkey prices generating recent headlines. Meanwhile, meat-industry workers’ wages have largely stagnated.>Despite growing scrutiny and public outcry over algorithmic price-setting of consumer goods and services, critics say meatpackers are settling these collusion lawsuits without admitting guilt or paying substantial penalties, meaning they’re free to keep using the data analytics firm to fix prices and drive down workers’ earnings.
>>536459414Actually they buy vegan products from chains and companies who profit off of animal products to a high degree as well if not outright own the chains their against too. So their vegan spending goes back into these companies and likely gets funneled directly into the abuse their against. Veganism is mostly just a moral position that isn't highly thought out. You ask a vegan, alright those companies who do that are pretty fucked up, what if I buy from local farmers where I see the treatment is fine?>Nope, no ethical farming exists>Nope that's unsustainable, I can't do it or choose to not do it therefore it's immoral>Nope cows and chickens shouldn't even exist, it's immoral to perpetuate their cycle>nope hunting is immoral>nope local farmers are abusers>nope your local farm I haven't seen does this and that and that and this so it's badWait, I have my own chickens though and treat them well>Nope, that's physically not possible because you are profiting off of and exploiting the labor of your chickens >Nope you're stealing their eggs>nope I haven't seen a chicken irl before how did you know?No point even discussing with them from my experience. they just beg the question and then reify the shit out of their own premises until the person just gets exhausted by their position and leaves thinking "Damn, those vegans are truly retarded as fuck, Imma go back to the supermarket now since none of it matters anyways"
>>536468592>legislation with does nothinglegislation with enforcement
>>536459404>stick them all in a room and gas them or something ffs
>>536459106How do you think nuggets are done?
So what? Untold trillions of bacteria are enslaved to produce lizard venom because fat retards can't stop eating cheetos. It's part of life if you don't like it kys
>>536468639as another poster said, those foods go uneaten.they are completely unnecessary for a vegan diet, and most of them are super bad for you, worse than meat.you are trying to frame a vegan diet in very narrow terms. i eat rice and pasta mostly, which is where you get actual energy. add some fuit and maybe some veggies and you have everything you need save vitamin b12, which you can take supplements for.
Problem is - while it's conscientious to be vegan - that ain't really stopping the machine now is it? But let's be frank here - no, not all meat eaters are the ones who built the genocide conveyer belt
>>536469051A vegan diet is completely unnecessary I mostly eat eggs off my neighbor. I have had every vegan I've ran into cry about it without presenting an actual coherent argument as to why I should stop doing this. It's just stupid. Even dumber when a vegan tells me they own a cat/dog but owning a cow and making butter makes you a piece of shit. It's hilariously retarded
>>536459404Gassing them is even more cruel because those chicks would spend more time asphyxiating than they are getting shredded, you stupid retard.You seriously put no thought into your post other than "shredding makes them all bloody and blood is icky!" Utterly vapid and stupid.
It is what it is, living is not a right, even if society wants you to believe otherwise
>>536469327>I have had every vegan I've ran into cry about it without presenting an actual coherent argument as to why I should stop doing this. It's just stupidfirst of all this never happenedsecond, i can give you a great argument as to why you should stop eating mostly eggs, and it's because it's horrible for your health in many different ways.here is a comprehensive article from an md doctor who has cured thousands of their diet-related ailments.https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/common-health-problems/easter-eggs-are-for-easter/https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/information/five-major-poisons-inherently-found-in-animal-foods/>Untainted research from high-quality studies shows that adding one egg to the daily diet of the average ‘healthy’ person, already eating 200 mg of cholesterol from other sources, will increase their serum cholesterol by about 4%, which translates into a 8% increase in their risk of heart disease. Two eggs daily will mean a 6% increase in cholesterol (12 mg/dL) and 12% more heart disease over the next 5 to 10 years. For young adult men, indulgence in two of these ‘Easter bunny treats’ daily means 30% more coronary heart disease over their lifetime.i'll come visit you in the hospital, anon
>>536459106Eating animals or their eggs or their mothers milk is not only stupid but EVIL
>>536470349>Once your protein needs are met then the excess must be eliminated from your body, primarily by your liver and kidneys. You can notice an overload of protein by the strong smell of urea in your body sweat and urine. The work of eliminating excess protein takes a toll even on healthy people. On average, 25% of kidney function is lost over a lifetime (70 years) from consuming the high animal-protein Western diet.1,2 For people with already damaged livers and kidneys, consuming excess protein will speed up the processes that lead to complete organ failure.3-7 Excess protein damages the bones. Doubling the dietary intake of protein increases the loss of calcium into the urine by 50%, fostering the development of osteoporosis and kidney stones.8>Lipotoxicity (Fat Overload)>The most recent report (for 2007 to 2008) on the epidemic of obesity in the US finds 33.8% of adults obese with 68.0% of all adults overweight.9 Dietary fats are almost effortlessly stored in your body fat.10 When consumed in excess, dietary fats also result in a surplus of fats stored in your liver, heart, and muscles. From all this over-accumulation, insulin resistance develops, contributing to other health problems, including heart disease, strokes, and type-2 diabetes.11 The extra pounds you carry around cause damage to the joints of your lower extremities (osteoarthritis). Excess fat in your diet and on your body alters your cellular metabolism, promoting cancers by many already discovered mechanisms.12
>>536470667>Cholesterol is only found in animal products. As an animal, you make all the cholesterol you need. Unfortunately, your capacity to eliminate it is limited to a little more than the amount you make. As a result, the cholesterol added by eating animal foods accumulates in your body parts, including your skin, tendons, and arteries. Cholesterol deposited in your arteries is a major contributor to vascular diseases of your heart and brain.13 Cholesterol also facilitates cancer development.14>Sulfur Toxicity>Overconsumption of sulfur-containing amino acids (for example, methionine) will cause you many unwelcome problems.15 Most noticeably, sulfur stinks, like rotten eggs, causing halitosis, body odor, and noxious flatus. Methionine is metabolized into homocysteine, a risk factor for heart attacks, strokes, peripheral vascular disease, venous thrombosis, dementia, Alzheimer’s disease, and depression. Sulfur feeds cancerous tumors and is known to be toxic to the tissues of the intestine. Sulfur-containing amino acids are metabolized into sulfuric acid—one of the most potent acids found in nature.
>>536470716>Acid Overload>After ingestion, your body must neutralize the over-abundance of endogenous dietary acids in the animal foods you eat. Your bones are the primary buffering system of your body.16-20 They counteract these dietary acids by releasing alkaline materials (carbonate, citrate, and sodium)—thereby the bones dissolve. Acids from animal foods also raise cortisol (steroid) levels in your body.21 An excess of steroid is another mechanism for further bone loss. The net result from this chronic acid poisoning is kidney stones and osteoporosis.
I eat 2-3 eggs daily and red meat nightly. I’m 5’11” 145lb and have low cholesterol. Bad science is bad. The way the human body processes food is dependent on the whole diet. Do you really believe the food you NEED FOR YOUR BRAIN TO FUNCTION AND YOUR BODY TO REACH ITS GENETIC POTENTIAL is bad for you?Or does telling that lie benefit someone who doesn’t want the peasantry driving up food prices? They dont even see us as human. That’s why they tell us an animal has as much moral significance as we do. I do not eat white bread. I do not consume sweetened drinks. I do not drink milk. I do not consume seed oils. I do not eat many grains at all. Mostly potatoes.
>>536470349Literal “there is no safe level of” garbage lmfao. Studies done in the soft sciences are incapable of producing consistently useful results and depend on utilitarian, aka false, horseshit to be excusable.
>>536459106This is why God probably hates us.
>>536471125wow, more straw men, who could have predictedare you tired of womp, womp, being the soundtrack to your life?
Don't be fooled. The Veganism Jew doesn't give a fuck about the lives of some randim chicklets. The only reason they want you to stop consuming meat is to make you weak and stupid. While they tell you to stop eating chicken, they mash palestinian PoWs into meatpaste by driving a tank over them, just for fun.
>>536460022you're not showing human evolution, you're showing a abo or nigger evolution, somewhat similar but not the same.
>>536471191No, its why I’m watching the remnants of the white race go extinct despite wishing I could keep a people to call my own around. You dysgenic, useless fucks are the excessively empathetic domesticated remnants that didn’t die in ww1 and ww2. You actually think “logical truth” can uncover morals without God but more importantly you feel false empathy from your brain being tiny, domesticated and doglike and that motivates you to create horseshit philosophy to make your idiocy appear intelligent. If someone smashed your pet rock you would cry. Your ancestors held slaves and ruled the world. Fucking pathetic.
we don’t need male chickens, fags
How can white people turn their nose up to us when they do evil things like in OP? They built and designed these machines. They fund these facilities. They then eat the product of suffering. Then they mock at how delicious these poor birds are.Then they say they are better than you. You white people must come to terms with how you share much with the jews. Everyone likes chicken nuggets but there is a moral and correct way to procure them without the literal live meat grinder we just watched. Like wtf....
>>536471382veganism is controlled by jews now? pls fill me in on this arcane knowledge. i'm sure it will be easy to provebut eating meat makes you weak and stupid, ask uncle adi. vegans have greater exercise tolerance btw, as a result of less fat in their diet, which slows down the blood and makes it all sludgy. this can and has been shown in realtimehttps://youtu.be/t7U_IJPXwqE
>>536471382Also abortions>kükenschreddern illegal>babies schreddern legal
>>536470349Your first article is retarded>If the protein make-up of eggs were ideal, then you couldn’t improve upon it by adding potatoes, could you? This is an actual quote in your first article. Aside from admitting that there's a healthy way to consume eggs all to dismantle some strawman, it's stupid at face value. Filtered water us healthier than drinking raw water. Ergo, you shouldn't drink water according to that logic.>Amino acids, as the name implies, are acids; the sulfur-containing amino acids are the strongest acids of all, because they break down into powerful sulfuric acid. Excess dietary acid is the primary cause of bone loss leading to osteoporosis and kidney stone formation.Okay. How much is "excess?" The article doesn't disclose that because the point isn't to educate on moderate nutrition, it's to use weasel wording to scare midwits by throwing out some chemical names. This is another type of argument that doesn't work when you apply it to other nutrients and foods: excess iron can lead to hemochromatosis, which is also linked to diabetes and liver failure, as well as joint pain, cardiomyopathy, and impotence. Spinach and kale are high in iron. Therefore, you shouldn't eat those either if we're going by this precedent.>Sulfur feeds cancerous tumorsSo does Dihydrogen Monoxide, which is another chemical added to a lot of foods.>those eating eggs more than 6 times a week had a 2.47 times greater risk of dying of heart disease than those eating less than one egg a week.So don't eat eggs literally more than once every day for years on end? This is two extremes being compared to each other, with the author hoping nobody notices.>will increase their serum cholesterol by about 4%, which translates into a 8% increase in their risk of heart disease.Okay. 8% and 12% of what? What's this figure it's adding these numbers to, and what's the timeframe? Is it 8% increased chance that I'm going to die from it in my life, or in the next five years?
>>536471382>they want you to stop consuming meat is to make you weakmein neger,>Vegans may have greater exercise tolerance than omnivores, particularly in terms of aerobic endurance, according to recent studies. >Enhanced Endurance: Research indicates that vegans often exhibit significantly higher VO2 max (maximal oxygen consumption) and longer submaximal endurance times (e.g., lasting ~25% longer in cycling tests) compared to meat-eaters. >Comparable Strength: Studies show no significant difference in muscular strength (upper or lower body) between vegans and omnivores, debunking the myth that plant-based diets compromise power output. >Potential Mechanisms: This advantage is attributed to higher carbohydrate intake in vegan diets, which may increase muscle glycogen storage, as well as reduced oxidative stress and inflammation. >Context: While some studies on recreational runners find no performance difference between diets, evidence suggests that long-term adherence to a vegan diet is compatible with peak performance and may facilitate aerobic capacity.
>>536460022Name the trait is WORTHLESS BULLSHITIF YOUR LOGICAL PROCESS CAN NOT DISTINGUISH A MAN FROM A COMMON RAT IT IS DEFECTIVE AND RESTS UPON UNTRUE PRINCIPLESEND OF. THERE IS NO GODNO SPIRITNO TRUTH FOR YOU TO SEEKTHIS MATERIAL LIFE IS THE ONLY ONE YOU WILL EVER HAVEYOU LIVE STRONG OR YOU DIE WEAKANY CONCLUSION THAT RESULTS IN SCENARIO TWO IS INCORRECT. YOU WILL NOT BE REWARDED FOR FAILURE. DEATH IS FINAL. DISSENT FROM THIS IS RELIGIONRELIGION IS FALSENON-RELIGIOUS DISSENT IS MAJOR DEPRESSION AND YOU WILL BE MEDICATED INTO COMPLIANCE OR DIAGNOSED AND CULLED AS DEFECTIVE. Fucking domesticated freak. May china throw you in the meat grinder. Fuck the domesticated whites who still live. Go lay your life down for a rat, you fucking domesticated animal. If you so easily equate man with livestockYOUARELIVESTOCK>n-no im enlightened and ethicalReligion detected! Xi will have you in a camp shortly.
Watch the videos of pigs being beaten to death, boiled alive, cut open by absolute demons in American Industrial farms. Actually horrifying to see. And some of the videos are from houses marketed as "Free range." One is of a baby's pig having its tail cut with scissors fresh from the womb another men stomping on baby pigs. Another a pig trying to escape as its legs are broken and a man is laughing while beating it with a pipe. Another is men kicking those exhausted or crippled pigs off carts. Pigs dragged by their ears to be slaughtered. All of those men should burn in hell to be so void of shame or empathy.
>>536471803Oh. They're on Wikipedia by the way. Takes a few seconds to find.
>>536470667>>536470716>>536470754Yeah we can open up the article and read it you condescending retarded gish galloping subhuman.Shut the fuck up and kill yourself mong.
>>536471803You wont do shit. China will replace you. Any species that doesn’t fight to be the greatest is food for those that do. Animals are worthlessHumans who morally equate themselves to animals are also worthless. Humans who equate themselves and others to animals are worthless and also pests. Get culled by the chinese, cattle.
>>536471610>us>CanadaI'm going to assume you're a jeet and point out that I've seen videos of jeet farms tossing chicks in barrels of water to drown them, which is leagues more cruel and wasteful.
If you're not vegan your a bad person. There's an animal holocaust happening at the moment, against creatures that are smarter than cats or dogs. This needs to end.
>>536472010Baby chicks are not smarter than dogs
>>536459354Yep, with plenty of delicious petroleum-based fertilizers and Roundup. Yum!
>>536471610How can you give a fuck about a worthless animal when you’re a human? Worry about your own species instead of prostrating yourself before automatons. >but if im rich and eat the perfect vegan diet i can do more cardio. and because us vegans are of brahmin stock we are also high iq saar!You fall to meat eaters every time study falls to practicality. Almost like well fed people are actually smarter and stronger. May the chinese legions stew you like a dog. Prioritize humans or be treated like an animal.
>>536468110Shock probably too great for pain to register as such before lights out
>>536459106You're right OP. I eat meat and chicken but only free farmed. I eat colony eggs but need to find out what they do to the male chicks.NZ is a pretty woke country so I could probably ask a minister to look into our options even if it's just offering the male chicks to adoption if anyone wants to save a few
>>536471776>Aside from admitting that there's a healthy way to consume eggshe didn't, he said the protein was more readily absorbed, not that it didn't cause health problems. more straw men and made up arguments, what a surprise. womp womp>>536471776>Okay. How much is "excess?"more than your body uses, and it depends on the person, but still within a fairly narrow window. humans only require 5% of their calories to come from protein, with pregnant women needing 6%. breast milk is only 5% protein btw, and milk is designed to make babies grow very quickly.>muh ironeasy. the forms of iron in plants are different than those in meat. this is widely known. womp womp>So does Dihydrogen Monoxide, which is another chemical added to a lot of foodswater is necessary for all life. you are being beyond disingenuous. >eggiesamericans eat an average of 1 egg per day. 2 eggs a day is hardly "extreme", many people do this. >Okay. 8% and 12% of what? What's this figure it's adding these numbers to, and what's the timeframe? Is it 8% increased chance that I'm going to die from it in my life, or in the next five years?if you actually read the article you will find the answeryou are pretending to not know what the article says, cheap and transparent.womp womp
>>536459708He doesn't believe it himself. He would make exceptions and twist his own convictions for butterflies because they're pretty, but not roaches. His goalpost is on wheels with a 6 cylinder engine, let him cope himself to death.
>>536471872lol i made the furry madthen why don't you read it? i posted it because you shills keep pretending the info isn't in the article.posting facts is not gish galloping, you can't even get terms right. he asked for an argument, and i gave him one. dry your eyes, sally.
>>536460132And the jamnigger reveals himself once again. It's just that easy.
>>536472096>but if im rich and eat the perfect vegan dietrice and beans with a bit of veg or greens are not expensivestarches are the cheapest foods around, and the healthiestgladiators were very fit, as well as sex symbols and top athletes. they ate a diet of mostly barley, one of the cheapest grains there is.
>>536459106I don’t care about your superficial virtue signaling. If any of you faggot liberal vegans have an ounce of a fuck about these farm animals you would stop importing millions of immigrants to the west. As long as western populations are massive there will always be industrial scale farming. Being vegan isn’t nearly enough to stop something like this. As long as there are billions of humans, there will always be a lack of humanity of mercy for the environment.Don’t like it? Don’t want to do anything meaningful to minimize animal suffering? Then guess what- I don’t give a shit.
>>536472355checkroaches spread disease, butterflies do not
>>536459106>>536459156>>536459354This is all of us, once AI and robotics are perfected by the elites.
the jews will have you believe that a much larger version of this was used to grind up 17 million jews in da-cow or awshwitz or wherever
>>536472614liberal vegans are not importing slave labour. the meat packing industry sure is, though. the best way to fight illegal immigration is to stop eating meat. 40-50% of their workers are illegals, and they donate to politicians like crazy. ever wonder why reagan and bush did amnesty instead of deportations? just big talk about deportations to get elected, then it's back to taking bribes.it's wall street capitalists that want them, same as dei, which was pushed by blackrock. wall st is in control of the dems and have been for decades. obama's cabinet was all wall st ffs. now, instead of a left that cares about worker's rights and safety on the job and class warfare, we now have a left made up of upper middle class people who are engaged in competitive outrage olympics. they push identity politics to keep the working class fractionated and busy with infighting.illegal immigration exists to push down wages and working condtitions for all americans, and bless his heart bernie sanders is the only one on the left that even touches this argument.
>>536459106ha, 1 post IDIf you are so offended by it, just end yourself and issue is solved
>>536473002https://youtu.be/VVhYYJPuCLsrelax, it's going to be ok
>>536472320>he said the protein was more readily absorbed, not that it didn't cause health problemsThe entire paragraph is about the helpful proteins in eggs supposedly not being absorbed. It's not a strawman on my part, you're just stupid.>more than your body usesI asked for an amount, not a tautological definition you window-licking pseudointellectual niggerfaggot.>and it depends on the person, but still within a fairly narrow window.Okay. What's that range? You're avoiding giving a figure because you don't even know, and your source isn't interested in undermining its fearmongering, hence that unrelated bit about breast milk on your end to feign relevance.>the forms of iron in plants are different than those in meatOkay. And? How does that negate the negative health effects of hemochromatosis?Also, bad form going "womp womp" when your reaponses so far have entirely been non sequiturs.>water is necessary for all life. you are being beyond disingenuous.Congratulations on understanding my point on why "feeds cancer cells" is a dumb argument that doesn't actually prove anything. Please google "Reductio ad absurdum" to finish your Logic 101 lesson.>americans eat an average of 1 egg per day.You presented no source for this, and in googling "americans eat 1 egg a day" I found two articles that said eating an egg a day was healthy.https://www.heart.org/en/news/2018/08/15/are-eggs-good-for-you-or-nothttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1115499/>if you actually read the article you will find the answerNo, I wouldn't because it's the same paragraph as you quoted when you first posted that, and doesn't satisfy my problems with its vague context.
>>536472985>liberal vegans are not importing slave labourWho do you think is working on produce farms?
>>536473117lol, just checked your postsIm really sorry for your parents m8, they must be going through hell they lost their child to brainwashing lmao
>>536459476Rip bobr :,(
>>536473271So y milk and cow's milk provide very similar amounts of protein typically around 7 to 9 grams per 8 ounce cup. Many unsweetened so y milks actually match or slightly exceed cow's milk in total protein contentBoth are complete proteins, meaning they supply all nine essential amino acids in adequate proportions.In terms of protein quality and digestibility, cow's milk has a slight edge according to the most current metric, the Digestible Indispensable Amino Acid Score (DIAAS), where cow's milk scores 1.2 to 1.45 and so y milk scores 0.9 to 1.08. The older Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score (PDCAAS) rates both very close to the maximum of 1.0 (cow's milk at 1.0, so y at 0.9 to 1.0). Digestibility is excellent for both cow's milk around 95% or higher, onions slightly lower at about 90% or more due to minor effects from processing and natural antinutrients, though these are largely minimized in commercial so y milk.Overall so y milk delivers a large amount of high quality well-absorbed protein that is extremely close to cow's milk and far superior to most other plant-based milks (like almond, rice, or oat). Cow's milk does have a modest advantage in the absorbability of essential amino acids, but onions milk remains an outstanding protein source, particularly for anyone following a plant-based diet.
>>536472049pigs are
>>536459106This exact same thread has been posted for years, often under different flags (though most recently under the US). Veganism is for Pajeets.
>>536473350You think animals don't need to eat?
>>536459643There would be more of an aversion to abortion if that was the case.
>>536473350you literally stopped reading my post after the first sentence. you really expect people to be this dumb? you know that other people can read what you are writing, not just me, right?>>536473399checkyou're lithuanian
>>536473797You didn't answer my question, faggot.
>>536459106>BILLIONS of 1 day old chicks are put on conveyor belts leading to BLENDERS every single year.And?
>>536473732That’s just using the proxy site that shall not be named
>>536473575but neither of them are necessaryyou don't need isolated protein sources, there is plenty of protein in all kinds of foods. protein is the least important macronutrient that existshttps://youtu.be/_KvyAylxBkQ
>>536459106friendly reminder that the planet is covered in water which we can grow seaweed inthe rivers and lakes can grow freshwater plantsthere can by hydroponic farmsduckweed has all 9 amino acidsconservative politicians ban lab grown meat before consumers can even make their own choice. GMO and corporate farms are not permaculturei eat meat too, but i'm not going to sit here and say vegans are wrong. vegans are ethically correct, and humans have the means to get what is needed for survival in other ways than killing other vertebrates.if you want to argue about invertebrates with high rates of reproduction, that's a different matter. if bugs are cooked and prepared correctly, they take on the flavor of whatever they're cooked in, and have higher ratios of protein, i don't have a problem with consuming organisms who evolved for millions of years to reproduce faster than predators could even eat them, with the exception of octopuses and squid which are very intelligent and probably feel a lot of pain
>>536473575I don't have a problem with the existence of onioymilk since, even if it weren't as nutritious, the simple fact is that there's a sizable amount of people who are lactose intolerant, so the market would give it its niche anyway. My problem is entirely on anon rallying behind fearmongering tactics that rely on deceptive logic that doesn't say anything when it's broken down.
>>536459156Now put tiny kippas on them.
>>536459106They work on methods now to scan for male eggs before they hatch making this a thing of the past soon.
>>536473880no, that's the furry meat shills that use that. i even got one to admit it once lol
>>536473948>You’re dumbHumanity does have the ability but it’s wholly corrupt, so it will never happen the way it was if we were more honest as a species.
>>536459106read it as "billions of chinks", got my hopes up there for a second :(
>>536459106Honestly it's visually awful but these chicks aren't likely to suffer. That's pretty fuggin fast. And they aren't smart enough to know how fucked they are. Are they a tad confused? Yeah. Is there just suffering beyond that? Not likely.
>>536473948Hydroponics is under discused, especially as it wouldnt be all that hard to have a fishery branch into doing both.
>>536473948>Chitin is inflammatory and carcinogenic You’re a paid shill
>>536459106Got to get dog/cat food and fertilizer somehow.
>>536474311>>536473948Yes and dr joshua Pearce has discussed this Theres all kinds of ways to get food from leaves and stuff https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y8D88boQpdo
>>536459648What the fuck is this machine doing
>>536474302Something that isnt pointed out by the likes of OP is that if male chicks weren't culled, then we'd have to put them somewhere. OP probably has never had to raise chickens, and has no idea that roosters are VERY agressive and territorial both to non chickens and ESPESSIALLY other roosters. >just throw them in the wildAll dead inside a month, chickens have been breed for captivity for a long long time, practically a free meal for predators.
>>536474533Vaccinating and debeaking so they don’t peak themselves or each other to death when they go insane from the conditions they are kept in
>>536474628The way they have been bred is the problem >>536460535Most broiler chickens are part of fast-growing breeds. These breeds have reduced welfare, as a result of inactivity and rapid growth causing stress to their muscles. “The fastest growing strains spent more time sitting, and less time standing and walking than slower strains, even at the same ages.” “Time spent sitting, standing and walking can be an important welfare indicator if differences relate to a bird’s inability to stand and walk, or if differences increase the birds’ risk for contact dermatitis (footpad lesions and hock burns).” Kelsey Piper summarizes “Farms have bred chickens so large that they’re in constant pain.” This image shows how much the chickens have grown over time. >>536460535
>>536474732In 1960, the average man weighed around 167 pounds and the average woman weighed around 140 pounds, so if our weight had increased proportionately as much as chickens did, by 2005, the average weight of women would be around 650 pounds and the average weight of men would be 770 pounds.In 1960, the average man weighed around 167 pounds and the average woman weighed around 140 pounds, so if our weight had increased proportionately as much as chickens did, by 2005, the average weight of women would be around 650 pounds and the average weight of men would be 770 pounds.!!!!!! In 1960, the average man weighed around 167 pounds and the average woman weighed around 140 pounds, so if our weight had increased proportionately as much as chickens did, by 2005, the average weight of women would be around 650 pounds and the average weight of men would be 770 pounds.!!!!700 pounds men exist and basically need forklifts to moveIn 1960, the average man weighed around 167 pounds and the average woman weighed around 140 pounds, so if our weight had increased proportionately as much as chickens did, by 2005, the average weight of women would be around 650 pounds and the average weight of men would be 770 pounds.!?!Pic related is 700 pound man
>>536459106>>536459156this is unironically china. We dont do that retard lmfao. and also, I bet youre fine with abortions because they inconvenience people. so pick a side, life or hypocracy>>536459321>>536459354
>>536461371>fraction of a second of painI doubt it. Pain reception takes longer than that. By the time the nerve has signaled the brain is paste. They feel nothing.
>>536459106Imagine the smell
>>536474866No it isn’t. OP is undercover footage from Australia
>>536474628from a little bit of research I did apparently males of the egg laying breed of the chickens would have a decent chance at survival in the wild https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_chicken#:~:text=A%20feral%20rooster%20on%20the,by%20a%20fight%20between%20cocks.
>>536464767This chart is nonsense if it doesn't measure a chicken in the wild.
>>536474522>shakey jump cuts and fake static + distorted voiceIm going to give it a watch but fuck me if it isnt going to be painful. I get trying to make it more engaging but I see that style (used a lot by flat earthers) and I completely lose interest.
>>536475118What do you mean? You think a wild hen would suffer significantly less? I could give the article that accompanied that picBut a wild hen from 80 years ago would not have been bred to lay as many eggs as a modern hen which means less osteoporosis and less fractures, the average hen in a cage had 3 fractures and they don’t heal correctly which leads to constant painAlso the insanity of being stuck in a tiny crowded cage in which she literally can not open her wings Plus the wire flooring The debeaking The inability to nest or establish a social group Etc
>>536475154just listen in background or read his research
>>536459106>>536459156>>536459219most people like and appreciate birds because they're so fucking awesome and are stewards of human existence here in freedom land, uwu. birds eat ticks and other shithead venomous things. sometimes they eat each other and it's sad but birds are basically raptors. >picrel is badass red-tailed hawk nest
>>536475087even if 1% survive Thats arguably better then OP pic plus it’s eugenic
>>536459106I can't really get upset about this. The chicks are killed quickly. But the diabolical mind it took to create such a device is kinda scary. Someone designed this.
>>536459106As I look at this...The worst part is this is ironically the drop. The chick feels the fall and is trying to fly. I don't think it knows it's going to be shredded. But the feeling of falling isn't exactly pleasant. That's ironically likely the most suffering part. The shred kills it before it can be felt.
>>536475498Actually it wouldnt be eugenic, as it would be the males getting chucked into the wild, thus no seggs, thus no eggs.Well you could have a program where you select from the survivors I guess, but thats more human intervention.
>>536475637circumcision devices and abortion pills and surgical abortion devices are worse
>>536459106better than genitally mutilate a newborn. Now I have to raid the fridge for some smoked bacon.
>>536459562>an adult hen who must eat multiple pounds of grainsso.. a natural thing?
>>536476080but both can still be really bad even if that’s true Go donate to Eric clopper intactivist attorney gofundme, the judge just denied the states motion to dismiss and found that the plaintiff did suffer an injury in fact by being circumcised
>>536459354With some improvements on the delivery process this one might be better. Once caught in the thing it's turned to paste before being killed. But the trip to the blades is messed up. Bouncing. Flinging. Tossing. All that is not likely pleasant. If they could get it to the part where they are pulverized in a better way this machine would be ethical.
>>536459354The blood is used for fertilizer. Everything else is processed into a protien powder that is fed back to the chooks.I do engineering work and was sent to a hatchery last month to repair a ventilation fan. There was a Philippino dude killing chick's with scissors non stop all day. I had to wonder what that guy feels when he goes home at night, probably nothing
>>536475380the cumulative suffering of every chicken in history is less meaningful to me than the tangible human suffering that would be caused by a temporary 1% increase in the price of chicken. I think most sane people agree with me, which is why the chicken industry exists in its current form and not a more suffering-averse form that you advocate for.
>>536476248If an animal is living a mostly bad life, suffering massively in a factory farm and experiencing little wellbeing then it’s wrong to breed them into existence.If an animal is living a mostly good life, perhaps on a pasture then it’s wrong to cut their mostly good life short by executing them when they’re a healthy teenager.Why take a utilitarian view of “non humans” but take an inalienable rights view towards “humans” ?
>>536459106>cancer can inherit cancer from mother>cancer can be spread by eating cancer cells>no way of ensuring retards aren't getting Cancer from their chick-pulp nuggets. Chicken is for shitskin anyway
>>536476446*chicks can inherit
>>536476358Actually there’s studies that show you are wrong Also ballot initiatives in which the majority of people vote for higher animal welfare standards
>>536475481Yeah, birds in general are bros. Fuck cormorants though.
>>536476392I agree with the first. But not the second. Animals are food. We don't have to abstain. But we should ensure they don't suffer. An animal isn't a human. It can't know impending doom, existential angst, etc. So long as it's dispatched quickly before the pain is felt it's fine.How it's treated up until the moment of death is where I feel the most improvements in being humane can be made. No cramped conditions. Fresh water. Decent climate. If an industry animal has a better experience than his natural brother or sister and meets a quick end, then humanity, even with factory farming, will be doing better for the animal than the very nature of existence would be doing. The thing that made Logan's Run so terrifying was the impending doom. Knowledge of death is suffering. Animals don't have it the same way humans do. If you can shield the animal from any terror ahead of its demise, there is no problem.
>>536476767>If an industry animal has a better experience than his natural brother or sister and meets a quick end, then humanity, even with factory farming, will be doing better for the animal than the very nature of existence would be doing.I propose to all vegans that this unquestionable. To refute it means that you take the position that reality itself is cruel and immoral.
>>536476489>there’s studies that show you are wrongpic unrelated, evidently.if don't want to be called out as a liar and philanderer, ask people to quantify the human suffering caused by an increase in the price of chicken, so you can make a comparison and judge people's relative preferences.if you just ask "SHOULD CHICKENS BE TORTURED Y/N" a lot of contextless faggots will say no. tie that to meat becoming a luxury product for the WEF and their friends and you will get a proper answer. normal people hate food deserts, hate luxurification of normal consumer products, and hate you, because unlike you they love humans.
>>536476767>No cramped conditions. Fresh water. Decent climate.how strange, you want to make chicken less accessibleyou're against the democratization of chickenI've never heard of such a position, it sounds evil for the sake of evil.actually it used to be common in the 70s and 80s but that turned out to be part of a larger USSR deindustrialization psyop and nobody mentioned it since, so what exactly are you getting at?even a 1% increase in the price of chicken will mean people at the economic margins will have to substitute less preferred foods some of the time. do you think that's funny? are you a misanthrope? a sadist? are you masturbating to the thought of denying poor people and niggers and poor niggers maximum chicken accessibility? why does their tangible suffering turn you on?
>>536459106There are worse fates than that anon. Stop
>>536476944If we went back to raising and slaughterimg our own animals, I think things would massively improve overnight. Many people are perfectly fine with having someone else do the dirty work. So long as they don't have to it's fine. But if they had to kill the animal, things would be so much better. - many would reduce the quantity of meat in their diet. Something that should happen anyway. Americans eat way too much protein. - some might even reduce all the way to vegetarian or vegan, helping them to make the choice they'd never make if it weren't for having to dispatch the animal- those who do choose to dispatch would likely on average try to do it quick with minimal sufferingAnd finally, the most important- the conditions the animal experiences throughout its life would be betterThat last point, to be, trumps all the others. Everyone focuses on the animals death. That's like 1 second of it's life. The real suffering is the years leading up to it.
>>536477204>are you masturbating to the thought of denying poor people and niggers and poor niggers maximum chicken accessibility?Welll now that you mention it.>grabs lube
>>536459106But you do the same thing to human "chicks" (fetus)YOUare directly responsible forTHAT.
>>536477204>chickens must live in awful conditions so rayray can afford itYou're brown.
>>536476392Why take a utilitarian view of “humans” but take an inalienable rights view towards “non hunans” ?
>>536477404>>536477499you have not yet explained why decreasing the accessibility of a preferred food to marginal consumers is a desirable outcome, leading me to believe you second post is not sarcastic.>people would reduce the quantity of meat in their dietan objectively bad outcome, you are evidently motivated by misanthropy>people would be forced to conform to my as yet unjustified ethical view at the expense of their health and wealthyou are a sadist and control freak for purely arbitrary and capricious reasons as far as I can tell>an animal would suffer lessbut humans would suffer more which is infinitely more meaningful to normal adults (not you)I conclude you are most likely motivated by malice against your fellow man, to the point where you wholly discount human suffering (from reduced chicken accessibility) and elevate non-human aesthetics which you have yet to justify
>>536477703you're the one discounting human suffering in your calculations without even giving an excuse, tyrone
>>536476392>Why take a utilitarian view of “non humans” but take an inalienable rights view towards “humans” ?you imbecile, the inalienability of human rights is only real to the extent that humans fought and died to extract that concession from each other; even still it requires constant vigilance, and constant sacrifice.wake me up when the chickens extract concessions from us after hundreds of years of internecine war. we'll call this paradigm shift the PEACE OF WESTFOWLIA.
>>536459106lol
>>536476489Great example of democracy vs democratic representation
>>536479519his "study" didn't ask people if they would be willing to trade decreased food accessibility.it just asked "do you approve of chicken torture after it has been described graphically with no other context Y/N"only a fool would mistake this contextless pro/anti torture poll as a legitimate scientific observation when it doesn't even quantify the tradeoff in decreased food accessibility.
>>536477917>you are a sadist and control freak for purely arbitrary and capricious reasons as far as I can tellniggas be projectingafricans eat waaay less meat than american blacks, and have much better health as a result. they eat more meat than any demographic, and suffer the worst health outcomes.lupus is a massive problem with american blacks, but almost unheard of in africa. when black people stop eating animal foods, their lupus goes away. the animal proteins are so similar to our own, that when they get through the leaky gut wall (bc not enough fibre) the body attacks not only them but you. nobody is going to suffer because no tendies, the world would have infinitely less suffering if people started giving up chickenand the prices are, as i mentioned before, a result of price fixing within the industry. it is still going on, even trump talked about it. the mennonites in alberta produce loads of chicken, and they do none of those horrible things factory farms do. they use different breeds too, which live much longer, and take longer to get to slaughter weight. they are basically organic too, as they grow almost all of their own feed, and don't bother paying for certification. yet, still, they somehow manage to charge less money per pound for a superior product. https://youtu.be/CQeezCdF4mk
>>536459330>Argument by assertionyawn
>>536459106Those baby chicks didn't ask to be born in this wretched world.Ngl, I feel their pain
>>536479719there is no decrease in accessibilityand if there were, good.you are disingenuously throwing out a bunch of shit as "givens", then saying that anyone who doesn't walk on your eggshells is a liar.keep posting though, you are making more vegans each time you doi went and made some pasta for sabbath, played with my dog for a while, and i come back and you have done my job for me.shabbat shalom, i'm out
>>536479758>africans eat waaay less meat than american blacks, and have much better health as a resultpseud never heard of confounderswe have them on a dripfeed of high fructose corn syrup from birththere is no evidence tying meat abstinence to positive health outcomes, and there is overwhelming evidence tying meat consumption to health and fitness at a population level. you can only have become this woefully misinformed through a strict diet of propaganda and lies. sadly, it's likely that you lack the neuroplasticity to ever change your mind on this subject due to age and lack of protein in your diet.>and the prices are, as i mentioned before, a result of price fixing within the industryinconceivable levels of willful blindness from you"it just won't increase prices, okay?" you've proven that you don't understand marginal effects. the good news is this means you're stupid, not evil. I apologize for getting that wrong. rest assured that as your advocacy continues to fall on deaf ears, people will be healthier as a consequence of your failure.
>>536480118 yet, still, they somehow manage to charge less money per pound for a superior product.
>>536479958>there is no decrease in accessibilityof courseuntil you arbitrarily increase the cost of productionand then there is a guaranteed decrease in accessibilityyou know this because you are from a state that required you to take macroeconomics in high school.>and if there were, good.I'm back to thinking you're evilmaybe you're both stupid and evil, wonder what hanlon would have to say about thatsince you have to lie like this to defend your beliefs, why are they still your beliefs?>i'm outflounce of wounded pride count: 1
>>536459106Billions of *male* chicks
>>536480203>yet, still, they somehow manage to charge less money per pound for a superior product.who is they?is they immune to the supply reducing effects of arbitrary increases in production costs?is they in the room with us right now?welcome back by the way
>>536459106Why should I care that brainless animals literally bred by humans to be food over generations are killed for meat?
>>536459496>because of my many donations to against malaria foundationwhy is actblue STILL shilling like this?
>>536471017every one of these threads is bait for /fit/fags.
>>536459106>>536459156Sleep tight lil' cluckers. I'm sorry this world was designed so that one creature consumes another. Maybe in some other world we will graze on grass together, someday.
>>536480118>there is no evidence tying meat abstinence to positive health outcomesThe nurses health study
>>536479719people already have voted for ballot initiatives to increase farm animal welfare and unless you believe they are retarded they know that could lead to slightly higher prices, these ballot initiatives still passed overwhelmingly >>536478222women can’t enforce their own rights but have more rights then men like abortion and fgm
>>536459354>>536459106>>536459156This is actually really sad but idk, i love chicken nuggets, but this is sad, indsutralized killing of baby chickens. Makes me imagine if an alien race defeated humanity then turns out they love newborn babies grinded into mush for their fertelizers back on their home planets and they have human farms of young women with big males (black men) who they let loose to pregnante the caged women
>>536459740>1 in 4 women has done it in usaAnother one of those statistics that's really interesting if you break it down by race
>>536459106lmao this retarded again thread again
>>536481108>people already have voted for ballot initiativesyou already presented the question as torture or no torture, instead of torture and increased accessibility vs less torture and decreased accessibility.you have yet to apologize for that brazen dishonesty, and you haven't admitted that your poll doesn't resolve the question of what people would choose if they were presented context about decreasing food accessibility, which, for the record, you are sadistically ambivalent about.I am painfully aware that with enough funding from sources who want america to deindustrialize, you can pass almost anything in california.this doesn't change the fact that, as one such advocate, you are either profoundly evil or profoundly stupid or both, as we have previously discussed.>women can’t enforce their own rights butnow you know why abortion is no longer nationally protected
>>536459106>women murder more babies in selfish self-interest to enable their hedonistic lifestyles every decade or so than people have died in all wars in human history combinedI SLEEP>baby animals are culled not out 9f cruelty but simply because they're less useful to the farmerGAAAAAAAAY WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE BABY ANIMALS?!?!?!?!
>>536468110Its like rather than being executed instead youre forced to live with massive waves of shitskins invading your country and slowly slaughtering your women and children before you get stabbed to death. All voted for btw
>>536464533Nope, the morning after pill doesn't prevent conception, it prevents the fertlized egg from attaching to the uterine wall. A good chunk of fertilized eggs aren't genetically viable and will fail to attach anyways on their oen ss a result, but pro-child sacrifice demons twist this to mean that conception doesn't happen until the egg attaches to the uterine wall when that's not the case and conception actually happens prior to the egg attaching.Literally any embryology textbook will tell you the same thing, but that doesn't stop the demons from claiming they're backed by science lol
>>536480977>risk factors of major chronic disease in womengod damn you are the least objective person I have ever talked to.this is good enough for you?no consideration of population level robustness, no consideration of tradeoffs. rejecting thousands of studies comparing meat eating germans and canadians to potato fed irish and cornfed americans as if they are all meaningless, in favor of a study that says women who survive everything else die of nitrite-related cancers.you fucking fool.a society where women die of atherosclerosis because they had too much bacon, is a society where they weren't dying of malnutrition or other aspects of poor health.you're one of those people who sees the biggest cause of child mortality is pools and guns, and concludes that we have a pool problem, instead of realizing that we eliminated all the other preventable causes by having more cows and crossing guards per capita than everyone else.enjoy your unexamined life.
>>536459106I need one for shitskins
>>536464767Chart is retarded. Chickens in cages where they have barely any room to turn around cannot break their keelbones and therefore have the least time in pain. Fuck off you vegan retard.
>>536484099the case of the egg-laying hen, with the facts gathered from this report. https://welfarefootprint.org/research-projects/laying-hens/ Egg-laying hens in conventional farms endure about 400 hours (!!!!!) of this kind of disabling agony. Remember, this is agony about as bad as the worst thing that’s ever happened to you, unless you’ve had an experience as bad as being severely tortured. This is the agony that makes it impossible to think of anything else. The hens endure about an hour of a day of this extremely intense agony.This intense pain comes from many sources including (this list is non-exhaustive):Bone fractures. The majority of hens experience a bone fracture over the course of their life. On average, they have three. Imagine if you broke the same bone three times This is, and I can’t emphasize this enough, what most hens deal with the industry that produces our eggs is so cruel that it breaks the bones of most hens multiple times.
>>536484196>>536484099In fact, the situation is much worse for hens than it would be for us because the area around their keel bone, which is the most common kind of fracture, has a huge number of nerves. While such experiences in humans usually produce disabling pain for about a day, for chickens, such pain lasts about a weekOften the bone doesn’t heal properly, leading to constant intense agonyInjurious pecking. In a hen's natural environment, she’ll spend most of her time pecking the ground looking for food. In a modern farm, hens can’t do that, so they spend a lot of their time pecking other hens, often leading to severe injury (just imagine that you were being bitten all the time by people surrounding you). It’s not terribly uncommon for hens to be pecked to death (seriously imagine what it would be like for that to happen) or for pecking to affect a hen’s body part known as the vent which is particularly sensitive (in this case, for the males reading this, imagine someone biting your balls). Often this becomes infected.Every one of a hen’s natural behaviors are thoroughly squashed in the farms. Hens cannot make a nest prior to laying an egg, which causes them quite severe distress. Hens are willing to undergo strong electric shocks in order to get a suitable nest—about as strong as the electric shocks they’ll endure in order to get food after being starved for 28 hours (!!!!!). Remember, hens lay an egg roughly daily! This may not seem like a big deal, but only because we don’t appreciate the experience of being a nesting hen; an alien wouldn’t understand why we care about sex so much. Konrad Lorenz, a nobel prize winner summarized:“The worst torture to which a battery hen is exposed is the inability to retire somewhere for the laying act.
>>536481686This is the most Indian/muslim post I’ve read in a while
>>536459106I never eat chicken. Just lamb beef and fish. Chicken is negro food.
>>536459156>>536459106That’s humane. You got a better way? >1Day oldThey don’t even know there is something better and they get squashed in a microsecond. Tell me a more humane way to treat them? >let them freeThey wont survive another day. Also this is only the males. You foids hate on men 24/7 and have no problems when human males go into the meatgrinder to doe for buttsex in ukraine. >but look how cute they areWomen are metally ill
>>536481686Did you crank one out to this scenario in your head? It seems oddly specific.
>>536459106>instant shredder death for animal product bad>but slitting their throat to bleed out blind and upside down for animal product once they get muscle is fineWhat part of me is this supposed to tug on? The only better way would be instantly decapitating them first but this is close enough.Chickens don't magically gain more inherent moral value when young if you're raising them for slaughter either way.
>>536459106>extra chicks being killed or spared.Except the chicks only existed in the first place because of a demand for animal products. I am not a fan of the process either, but testosterone makes meat taste like literal shit. "Boar taint" it is called in the farming industry. That is why meat animals are castrated, and you can't castrate birds.
>>536459106i dont care
>>536485684I think it’s better they are never born or conceived then be born and experience that. It’s especially true for the hens in batter cages
>>536485774>I think I should judge what shall live and what shouldn’t get bornStop thinking. You have nothing to say about this. This is why abortions are immoral and you shouldn’t judge over them either. You are the judge of shit. You do nothing to improve anyone’s life, only complain. Now fuck off and eat a tofu or whatever
>>536459106WE DONT CAREThe only thing that makes me upset about this is that they aren't using all this wonderful machinery for the Jeet problem. Jeets could become cow food which could then become food that we export to the chinks
>>536460369Poor little nigglet.
>>536459106Industrialized food production brings down the cost of food. Less people starve. Some chickens get the grinder instead of dying a slow painful death being eaten alive in nature. Personally I put people above chickens. Less people starving is a good thing.
>>536485774>I think it’s better they are never born or conceived then be born and experience that.You use the word "think", but that's not what you're doing. Thinking is an elevated mental process where you consider facts and data and knowable things. You're *feeling*. Like a PMSing woman does. It's pathetic (quite literally). People who hear your thoughts from this point forward won't be able to take them seriously.Here's what I think: even if 10 trillion chicks were ground up into mince slowly, it would be no different in the universe. No one's keeping score. Vegan Jesus will not send you to hell for grinding up chickens. The only difference is that people like yourself will neurotically feel worse because somewhere deep down in your psyche you decided chickens were people or close enough, probably because you watched too many talking animal cartoons before the age of 5.We're not going to change, people like me. We don't want to. The world isn't going to change... people like me are having children, and people like you are finding children to be some terrible burden you'd rather not shoulder. You're adamant that having children is anti-feminist. That it's environmentally disastrous. The future looks more like me and less like you. So go fuck off into your basedcave and perform your cuck rituals, and try not to remind the rest of us that you exist.
Wow some of you are in here writing lengthy posts trying to make some attempt at a fresh, rhetorical argument as if it's not going to be bumped to death in like 2 hours. Amazing.
>>536486755That’s racist
>>536476277>Everything else is processed into a protien powder that is fed back to the chooks.Isn't this a recipe for prion diseases?
>>536459106This is truly disturbing, OP. The pieces of egg shouldn't fall with the chickens, imagine all the chicken shit contained in the meal. Wtf
>>536459106Almost like we live in an evil universe in which conscious beings devour eachother to sustain itself
>>536460629>>536474286Same, we are like brothers
>>536459106I want this process to continue except with Indians
>>536459106Is that why they want to feminize the planet?Because male meat tastes bad?
Couldn't they just turn those into tranny chickens and their meat would taste good?
>>536488199>be jewish>advocate for the abortion of white children only
>>536459496>many donations to against malaria foundationNigger lover.
>>536471191No, it’s because of things to unspeakable to even mention on /pol/
>>536471926Will you eat them to prove your dominance?
>>536459106An engineer designed that
>>536459355mosquitoes have killed roughly 44% of all humans who have ever existed we are fully justified in obliterating them
>>536459643>muh hellEnjoy this shit designated by your demiurge
>>536459106Don't care.
>>536459354It's really weird how there are different colored patches. How does the grinding process not lead to a uniform mush everywhere? Is there a way to exploit this? Is there a use in separating the bits by color? Does this become fish food for aquaculture?
>>536460066Chickens equal in traits to humankind, do you hear yourself nigger? Vegans are a cult.of mantras and slogans
