We tell children that violence doesn't solve the problem. In reality violence solves every problem, and is in fact the basis of both our law and our society.
no. the basis of our laws are the prevention of male-on-male violence over mate selection
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5922783/https://quillette.com/2018/02/24/behavioral-ecology-male-violence/
>>536472526Cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>536472715What do you use to prevent violent men from doing socially unwanted violence, retard?
>>536472526The government says that, when the government solves every single one of its issues with violence, always the immediate and first response to every problem they face is some form of violence.Imagine being told by some warmongering pig demon who dedicates their entire life to snuffing life out by the millions via "foreign policy", to "calm down" or "don't be divisive".
>>536473174violence is physical aggression used to violate the rights of others. the aggressor, by his own actions, has forfeited any rights he had by deliberately ignoring the rights of others. you can't violate the rights of someone who has no rights. executing a criminal isn't violence, it's just cleaning the gene pool
>>536472526Do children know that knives are sharp at this age? I am curious about at what age I learned that sharp things are hurty things. I probably learned it from watching movies.
>>536472526violence is the only real authority humans respect and it's also a universal language, don't blame me, I didn't create this shitballs reality, pretty sure.
>>536472526Violence is the primordial truth, and the supreme authority through which all other authority is derived.
>>536472526>her facekek that's an adorable picture
>>536472526cant have the slave population know about that
>>536472715I think you are confusingA. Why we agree violence is wrongB. The basis that consensus is upheldIn your context, my argument would be that at the point white men are not willing to use sexual violence against minority women, the mutual agreement not to rape rapidly breaks down and minorities will start to think it's their super power
>>536472526kill or be killed.
>>536472526>In reality violence solves every problem, and is in fact the basis of both our law and our society.Not quite.Ideally we would live in a high trust society that is non-violent and peaceful.In reality the government and criminals use violence to get what they want while telling the productive people that violence is not okay. They have a monopoly on the use of violence this way.The solution is therefore to enfranchise productive people using violence against the criminals, until the criminals throw in the towel and are thrown out of power.
>>536473281Violence is the use of physical force. There is no moral weight to the word "violence". It doesn't stop being violence when you approve of it.
>>536473314Relevent question:Does every child individually cut themselves to work this out?Is the agreement not to play with knives something individuals learn, or is it a social norm?
>>536472715Laws exist to deal with sociopaths you retard.
>tap tap tap
>>536473765Us Leafs do not claim this one. He's from Ontario
>>536473841The extreme supermajority of the application of the law and its enforcement is exclusively to suppress the Chattel caste tax-cattle, to keep them in line.The majority of time a patrolman spends his day, is harassing working stiffs going to-and-from work.
.>>536472526real life Chucky "doll" lol cute
>>536472526It may solve a problem but usually at the cost of creating another one, often worse one.
>>536472526I don't care what anyone says, that image is based.
>>536473505That's again, one of those false arguments based on a circular definition, and pseudo Darwinism.>authority is the threat of violence>the threat of violence confers authorityIt's possibly true but that kind of argument is no kind of proof of anything, it's just a claim.
>>536473765>Violence is the use of physical forcelike with law enFORCEment?>There is no moral weight to the word "violence"uh huh. WE all know this.>It doesn't stop being violence when you approve of it.then stop whining when you're told that the mechanism for enforcing laws is violence. Only violence curbs violence. violence is the ultimate authority.Every counter argument can itself be defeated with violence.
>>536473573The slaves nearly always try to use violence, that's because they're not part of our society at all. As I once said to a friend who claimed he had a parrot as a pet, if you opened the cage would it fly away? The parrot is a prisoner
>>536474161It's not circular. You just don't like itAt it's most basic, the world is comprised of molecules that consume other molecules to replicate. Violence goes all they way down. There's onyl an infinite regress or circular reasoning when oyu obtusely question the notion forever. In today's civil society no one can show you the truth (by hitting you) because stronger forces are threatening worse violence as a deterrent.
>>536474161No it isnt't. Just the simple statement that to get others to do what you want, thats is, to have authority, you must ultimately be able to compel the uncooperative by force.Otherwise your "authority" is just a series of "valued suggestions"
>>536473721But do you acknowledge that in a high trust society (a concept i generally accept) that there may actually be a social consensus towards violence?Because I think we can essentially agree that violence needs to return, and that men should bear arms. That's a common feature of Korean, isreali, sikh, a number of other societies and i think ours must follow suitIf you find these views strangely both fascist and Bolshevik, at the same time, there's a reason for that. My national security agency calls this a "mixed ideology" but that just proves they never read a book in their lives
>>536474284I'm on your side here, tardo
>>536473960Well that's the typical Marxist view but I would argue that the police are not present 99% of the time so the "working class" obey the law of their own volition. The Marxist rebuttle, that the workers are oppressed rather then consent. I generally accept that the workers are oppressed, the social contract is inherently oppressive, convention is oppressive, yes. But that doesn't change the fact that the presence of the patrolman doesn't uphold the law, only the convention.
>>536474413What you have just repeated is the exact same naturalist fallacy, proven only by your own circular definition>one cell killing another is violence>so everything is violenceSurely you can see that a definition isn't any kind of proof, and you can see that I'm not going to try to argue with you on fact because your logic is faulty
>>536472715mmlaws regulating sex are LOOSER than they've ever been, while laws regulating violence are more strict than they've ever been>The sexual struggle is of two kinds; in the one it is between the individuals of the same sex, generally the male sex, in order to drive away or kill their rivals, the females remaining passive; whilst in the other, the struggle is likewise between the individuals of the same sex, in order to excite or charm those of the opposite sex, generally the females, which no longer remain passive, but select the more agreeable partners. -Charles Darwinhttps://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1871darwin-desc3.asp
>>536474529That's a competing definition of authority, which doesn't change my argument. The majority of people from society XYZ follow the socially expected norms of XYZ with, or without any authority or violence. Would those norms change over time if there were no authority? Absolutely. But that doesn't change the conclusion. The power of authorities is persuasive, their authority is a kind of social credit, and their violence is the basis for the social credit not the other way around. White people listen to police because police bash niggers, not because white people fear being bashed
>>536472526You just say it cause you're a sheltered cunt who never sniffed real violence. Look at Ukraine, Palestine, Iran, how did violence help anyone there?It only works when it's a gentle push that helps things fall into place to which they are already poised, like how Joulani toppled Assad, or Trump stole Maduro, otherwise it will only bury you even deeper in shit. That's what you should teach to your children: you should negotiate, plan, plot, scheme and infiltrate until you are ready to end it with violence like a cherry on the top just to polish it or possibly skip it altogether.
>>536475485The thing you may not appreciate is that because most people abhor violence, the majority of the violence in the world is committed by a very small group of people. So if I knew anything about violence, I'd tend to know a lot about it.
>>536472526Everyone here loves the idea of violence until we start killing your fellow shabbos goyim like kirk.
>>536472715This guy gets itWe are a highly sexually dismorphic species for a reason yet everyone pretends to ignore it
>>536472526Based little girl.I make sure mine have a good knife too.Evil tends to rethink its position with a blade in the neck.
>>536472526Violence solves a lot of problems, but only if you don't go full retard with it.But that's hard to explain to kids because kids are stupid, so it's easier to just teach them not to resort to violence when they're young and have them learn as they get older.It's like telling your kids that something is magic because telling them the actual answer would just confuse them.
I think God is only TRYING to be "God," and the true God is Violence. God is just another practitioner, but that's all. He might be the very deadliest of all practitioners, but he's still stuck playing somebody else's game. Forever.
>>536476327The funny thing about Kirk is that they didn't do shit. The trannies are winning because they're a minority who chose violent, against a society too cucked to bash a man wearing a dress.Men aren't allowed to hit women, so put on a dress, sneak a number of dress wearing women into the city, commit terrible crimes. It's an ancient understanding of terrorism, odeseyus would have put on a dress to kidnap children. These Americans all carry guns, then run away the second sometime shoots at them. They are so cucked as a society that even armed they won't do shit. I spit on Americans, the founding fathers spit on Americans. They demand guns then refuse to uphold their liberty
>>536476485I think you have to go full retard, lynch a huge number of antisocial criminals, behead a significant number of elites, a reign of terror is necessary from time to time. >>536476708Religeous thinking is totally alien to me, I'm not even sure how to respond
>>536472526Violence isnt the answer, physical and mental strength is, a hotheaded vengeful man lacks strengthu and disciprine
it's called slave morality
>>536473174>>536472891>>536472890Stupid violent cattle are beloved by the world leaders. Violence means nothing if its not wielded with intelligence. The elites just don't want smart people being violent and that's it. They love when spiteful niggers are violent.
>>536472526Varg has 7 kids and none of them stabbed a migrant to death
>>536476976I bet your parents had a chair in their bedroom
>>536473960No its sociopath tard wrangling. Most people get fucked by laws that exist because psychos look for any loophole to engage in their bullshit. Nobody needs to be taught murder is wrong but its a crime charge because psychos would kill people constantly if there was no legal consequence.
>>536476852Yes but that's not a job for the children.Children shouldn't be exposed to all the horrors of the world, just some of them, through movies like Secret of Nimh.You gotta ease them into the horror, but with stories of brave knights and noble heroes.
>>536472526so blacks are the law and the creators of society?idk anon, i think you might be retarded.>>536473281whenever a cop pulls you over, he is the aggressor, if you kill him you'll end up in prison.your logic is retarded and you need a good beating till you learn how retarded you are
>>536477285Didn't varg do the stabbing for them, wasn't that the whole euronymous thing?But it's my general view to deport everyone who isn't a member of our society, form city states again, and lynch antisocial criminals and elites again. First Republic best republic.
>>536472526it doesn't solve any problems when there's a bigger asshole who doesn't approve of your force ueageuntil that last hurdle is passed then it's at 90/10% chance of getting wrecked
>>536477477>psychos would kill people constantly if there was no legal consequence.Elites aren't people. >>536477497Der werewolf is recommended reading>>536477610I think it's a valid argument that American society was rapidly nigrefied because black minorities just constantly used violence, rape, and communal violence/riot against white Americans. They revolted and burnt down half of Charlottesville while white cucks did literally nothing. The only one who laid down fire was a random Jewish frat kid and that's about the cultural hierarchy of the US.
>>536472715>the basis of our lawsLaws can only be enforced with violence. they are useless by themselves.Law officials are the states monopoly on violence used to force you to comply.At the core of everything overwhelming violent force is what is used to control everything and protect peoples rights.. It's the only reason you are safe at this moment.Giving the state the monopoly on violence is far better than the alternative of it belong to the criminals.This only becomes a problem when the state turns traitorous against its people like in the UK.
Yeah, but children are small and fragile so it is better that they keep this opinion until they get strong enough to wield a two handed greatsword. Then they can make their own opinions because who is fucking with someone wielding a two handed greatsword?
>>536478081The reason African boys develop far faster physically is because they come from a violent society.Do you think an egg is small and fragile? Do you eat eggs? Has anyone ever thrown an egg at you?
>>536472526The only way to make the world right is with violence. All the corrupt politicians, judges, nigger loving fags and women that want to destroy society in pursuit of their queer race blind utopian ideal can only be stopped with extreme violence.
>>536472526violence does not solve the problem of imbalance of power (to do violence). checkmate.ontologically, your only fallback position will be to semantically redefine your position after the fact, or attempt to declare that problem isn't real.you will have already taken this fallback at least once in this the thread; i'm familiar enough with the form of argument i need not even bother check. your counter is inevitable, unless you choose to concede; however those who tend toward your precept rarely do, as they should.ironically, you have been bested -- without violence. good day sir.
>>536483557>bang>next
>>536474095Not really it depends on a case by case basis of the use of violence and you can't just draw blanket conclusions about the use of violence. Do you think using violence to defend a loved one from someone trying to do harm to them results in a worse problem? If so then how exactly?
>>536472526VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWERIT IS THE QUESTIONAND THE ANSWER IS YES
Nice relevant quote from a Swedish officer (Ulf Henricsson) who was in the Bosnian war and got accused of being too aggressive: "There is a Swedish tradition of thinking you can always reason with people, but I mean, crooks and bandits respect threats of violence."Some people can't be reasoned with.
>>536485007I mean he's not wrong. Putting it on a more macro level this also rings true for most eastern cultures. They don't respect diplomacy or anything of that nature only strength and you capacity to do violence if crossed.
>>536485097Yeah, some people use conversation only as a means of manipulation.
>>536477952Good start, but you need to embrace this rationale further. Then you will realize that the "state" is not more legitimate than "criminals", it just has more potential for violence. At any moment, when criminals potential for violence surpasses the official state, they might "gain" legitimacy. Society is organize only through violence, there is no other relevant institutions or forces at play, state, religion, families, are ultimately only means to organize violence.
>>536484248missed. you get nothing.
>>536477952>Laws can only be enforced with violence. they are useless by themselves.>Law officials are the states monopoly on violence used to force you to comply.>Giving the state the monopoly on violence is far better than the alternative of it belong to the criminals.>This only becomes a problem when the state turns traitorous against its people like in the UK.Controlled violence is ok to enforce laws or get rid of abusers of power. In the end no one wants a uncontrolled violence society like in 3rd world where you can get stabbed for your silver watch.
>>536472526I just wanna bite this cheeks!!! So cuuuuute lmao
>>536485653>he wished, gargling blood
>>536487494i'm fine. your gun.gif accomplished nothing.
>>536487538>insinuating his faggy argument did
>>536473281You, as a man, owe your social standing to your capacity to inflict violence; when you turn that capacity over to the police you lose the social standing you gained through it. This is why women are now ruling you, because you're a faggot who has given up your weapons for security.
Is this a kirpan?
>>536473281>you can't violate the rights of someone who has no rights. executing a criminal isn't violence, it's just cleaning the gene poolGod, I can almost actually hear you breathing through your mouth while reading this goofy shit
>>536477952No violence that you commit is evil if it is in defiance of the stateThe state calls its evil good. It should be torn down by any means necessary
>>536483557>To do X doesn't solve the problem of Y (to do X)
>>536489978>he only sees pure tautologyhow's it feel being a midwit?
>>536472526>>Violence is not the answer...I wasn't asking a question Faggot.
>>536488442it dispelled his myth, which is all that was necessary.
>>536490073>Deconstruct tautology with vague semantic definition and provide same tautology as argument in response hoping vibes will fill in the rest
>>536472526Little girls in Australia are better armed than grown men in the UKlol
>>5364904808============D~~
>>536483557You are possibly the dumbest person in this thread.
whoever has the greater deadly force always wins. might is right.
>>536473281>violence is physical aggression used to violate the rights of othersget the fuck off of /pol/ and never come back
violence really is underrated
>>536473261^This
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>>536472526Violence is the quick, satanic solution.
>>536472526We tell White children that violence doesn't solve the problem.*Or at least, they're the ones that listen the most.
>>536472526Solves one problem and creates many more though
>>536472526Nah it doesn't solve every problems but is a useful tool in a man's arsenal
>>536472526Domo arigato, Miura-sensei...
>>536472526>We tell children that violence doesn't solve the problem.>In reality violence solves every problem, and is in fact the basis of both our law and our society.Correct.White children must be taught to fight and kill if necessary, from a very early age. This needs to become part of our culture.
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>>536472526I learned this early with childhood games with my brothers and friends.From cap guns, plastic melee weapons, Nerf blasters, Supersoakers, Pure primal fights throwing whatever toys were at hand at each other(including Tonka Trucks). Violence. Or rather, the threat of violence = equality. My older brother always got the best toy weapons. I got the second best. Our little brother was always left getting whatever he could. Which is probably why he took to artistic expression over martial. When we were little kids our older brother would exert his will on us with his superior weaponry. Whether it was a foam gut punch from a Nerf Ultimator or a cartwheeling blast from the Supersoaker CPS 2000. Or even a "whipping" session from his Red Ranger Power Sword. My little brother and I were beholden to his will until I got my hands on a Blue Ranger Power Lance and a Supersoaker XP 110 and our little bro got his hands on one of those pump action backpack tank water guns. BIG GUNS aren't everything. Strategy is important too. Older Bro had the nukes but lil bro and I had the precision weapons. Lil bro and I formed an alliance with the kids our age in the neighborhood against the older brothers of the neighborhood. Every family's older brothers had the creme de la creme of Nerf and Supersoaker armament. Yet the little brother rebellion would regularly win. Our "weapons" were more compact. More precise. More easily transported. Respond quicker. For every little brother that got knocked out of a tree house with an Ultimator rocket, we had a dozen needle sharp Supersoakers and a hail of Nerf darts to respond. Point is. BIG GUNS don't matter all that much in asymmetric combat. All BIG GUNS do is kill your own support and galvanize the opposition.>neighborhood older bros launch Ultimator rockets>neighborhood lil bros respond with Supersoaker XP rifles and throwing apples/crab applesIf you're not stupid you can infer the logistics of our neighborhood skirmishes.
>>536472526No, it doesn't solve every problem.It often sparks reprisal violence, and the simple fact that "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." It is this principle of which society is based upon. That government has a monopoly on violence (aka force) and is expected to use it responsibly in order to maintain peace.
>>536472526Society is a shit test
>>536473802>Is the agreement not to play with knives something individuals learn, or is it a social norm?Both. If you don't have a father or a peer to teach you that "violence hurts" you won't appreciate/understand the suffering that violence can incur. I learned violence hurts by brawling with my brothers. We all learned over time that it's better to exhaust all peaceful means possible before resorting to it because we all earned scars from previous petty childhood brawls. I can hardly remember the last time me or one of my brothers raised a fist in anger towards each other. Some highlights though>older bro takes Tai Kwan Do, nearly KO's lil bro and I with kicks>I started wrestling in 4th grade and ended up having to wrestle high schoolers for "fairness" while still in grade school>lil bro nearly takes older bro's nose off by frisbee'ing a drum cymbalFighting / testing martial prowess in youth, when you are still and able to "bounce back" is part of growing up as a boy. Literally "boys will be boys". It's how we learn our limits. How to surpass those limits. How to play fair. And so much more. Boys will become men. And men need to be resilient and strong and fair. Everything about modern society and schooling robs our boys of those qualities.
>>536472526Violence doesn't solve anything, winning does. You tell children violence is bad until they can distinguish between the two.
>>536472526*coordinated* violence solves every problem, individual violence doesn't do shit and indeed often makes coordinating violence more difficult
>>536472526I dunno all that the leftist preach is working in some kind of meta.
>>536489978https://www.instagram.com/p/C9nyBhuN7nu/?hl=deI wonder how often ben jerked off to her fat tits she tried to hide from him.
>>536472526>In reality violence solves every problemcarle magnum proved that
>>536495863>Violence doesn't solve anything, winning doeswait a sec, fellow spic. you obviously use VIOLENCE when you are guaranteed to WINyour arhument doesn't cut it
>>536483557Doesnt appear to me that youve bested anyone , other than being the best at being a faggot
>>536472526https://youtube.com/watch?v=XFIitXm6UhQ&si=cZ8KpFINUqPsCB5N
>>536485653You get aids
>>536473440>bare witness
>>536473281I thought this was bait, but he was serious.
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>>536472526Violence doesn't solve the problem, it's just getting rid of it to be solved.
>>536472526violence is the answer when you have the numbers and means to enact it without meaningful pushbackthis is why the governments rule through police, criminals rule through gangs, and the school bully rules through cliques. the violence wouldn't matter if you could just hit back, but it's designed so the opposition is stronger and there's always someone else there to take revenge. it's not just the school bully himself you have to worry about, it's his lackeys that'll jump you even if you manage to beat the shit out of him. same thing with any crime syndicate or police force, even if you take one out there's innumerable more that'll be coming for you and possibly your family
>>536497851thanks Ghandi
>>536472526All big monopolies have lost, all of them.Completely and totally defeated.Now that they are all in debt they deserve the death penalty for being such disgusting greedy pigs.All that remains on the stock market are thieves.
>>536472526Violence towards dishonesty
>not yet posted ITTFor shame
>>536497194>>536497226>blah blah blahit's pathetic how base, cliche, and predictably shallow you all always are. this board is completely dead.
Sex, you mean Sex is the ultimate basis of lawFtfy
If you dont understand, i dont want to hear it incel, log off & cry about it
>>536472526>Loser Hitler>Plays Die Civilsche germanische rasse>Hides completely justified killings>Millions of jews escape>Daughters prostituted, traded, and taken to rape islands>in debt forever for a 12m^2 home>Great Mao>Embraces the brutality>Jew tied, recited his crimes then beaten to death. >Nobody escapes>Women safe to walk alone at night>Skyscrapes robots voice control homes electric supercars
>>536475253incorrect and foid cope. Sex workers are still banned in the US
>>536472526Violence and Force through Order (LAW)are 2 waaaay different things!You are from some savage part of Africa, India ,USA ,Israhell or Mexico!Am I right?x)Oh... My Bad... Australia !Penal colony!Right.. right.. criminal mind set !Make sense now!
