You're all duplicitous fucking retards, especially the /uhg/ tranniesPutin> warns for over two decades that NATO expansion eastwards will lead to war/pol/tards> why did he start the war? is he retarded? it was unprovokedEven Merkel, the used up whore, realized that it will lead to war. Explain yourselves, you fucking retards. If you question Putin's motives, you're a fucking retard.It's probably the most reasonable reason for war in recent history. Israel attempts to establish Greater Israel, but failing at it. Theirs is a completely irrational dream of conquest. Russia however, is trying to eliminate a threat, completely armed, trained, and intelligence provided by the West. They're in fact fighting all of NATO. Anyone who argues otherwise insincere or a paid shill.
>>536484649Agreed. Did you smoke rööki today?
>>536484649I won’t argue this I don’t like putin’s oligarchy though. it’s all so wasteful.
>>536484649>I don’t like putin’s oligarchy thoughDo you like ours? They're called entrepreneurs or bankers in our society.
So why doesn't he attack NATO then? You're not making sense tranny? Just like cutting off your willy doesn't make you a woman, losing 1.5 million men fighting a war against a non-NATO country doesn't shrink NATO. In fact NATO grew, stupid discord tranny.
>>536484731>Did you smoke rööki today?Four... I can't resist the temptation walking my god.Indoors I use recently sanctioned "snus". I want the old General terrorizing the innards of my lip. The swedes were right.
>>536485350>Swedish fag bagsFinland truly has fallen. Good job for burning some rööki, though.
>>536485108>So why doesn't he attack NATO thenWhy would he? Are you misreading my post? Why would he even want to touch NATO? Your brain is mush. You've been so condition by psyop mass formation that you're unable to put yourself in any other's shoes. You're a subject, not a person.
>>536485435>Finland truly has fallenSo it seems. So it seems... Reason has gone through the window. Entrapped by the trope that history's deemed to repeat itself. We're completely inable to even consider a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia. We had it for decades, but now we're running blind in the woods. We've completely lost any positive ambition. It's fucking HARD to deal with mentally. It's retarded beyond belief.
>>536485780I can't blame modern Finns for disliking Russia. Putin has publicly mused with the idea of taking it. Then you'd be Russia, with a much lower standard of living. On the plus side, much cheaper rööki.
Kek you should make him orange
>>536485580Tranny you're hallucinating again. Read your OP and then answer my question.If your tranny grandma Putin wanted to fight NATO, why did he attack a non-NATO country? Go to your discord trannies and fetch them. You have taken too much oestrogen
>>536484649You're a fucking idiot. Just kill yourself.You have no idea what Putin is or what's going on in Russia outside of your Russia Today viewing habits.
>>536484649I'm confused, did NATO conquer those countries? Who were they joining NATO to get protection from?
>>536486024>Putin has publicly mused with the idea of taking itWhen? and for what reason? Is it justifiable? If Finland assists Ukraine, is it not a valid target of Russia?
>>536485580ANON LOOK OUT THERE'S A KIKE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU
>>536484649Ukraine started this war just like Poland started ww2
>>536486286I don't think you'd be happy as part of Russia. Your living conditions would go into the shutter overnight. It's not much better than Africa in a lot of places.He was vague but if you read between the lines it's all there. Said it was a "strategic mistake" for Suomi to join NATO and they'd be forced to respond.
>>536486361>Ukraine started this war just like Poland started ww2Poland was dormant, not posing a threat to anyone. Ukraine on the other hand, was a militarized unit on the geopolitical chess board. For years and years, Ukraine (and it's Junta, Azov Batallion), was propped up by the West. Putin, not being a retard, realized this, and had to respond accordingly. Which sadly resulted in a war.Ukraine, a de facto NATO member. They've received every assistance any other NATO member would receive. Imagine Russia would attack Finland. You're shrooming if you think we'd get any more assistance than what Ukraine has received.We're walking on egg shells, drunk and retarded. The result will probably be devastating for Finland, no matter how you spin it. We're the next sacrificial lamb.
Putin and Russia don't have any kind of authority to deny people NATO membership. Also, this war directly led to NATO gaining new members who otherwise probably never would've joined, and also revitalized interest from existing members who were starting to see the alliance as outmoded. Before this war, European states like Germany were almost totally dependent on Russian energy, and Russia could have simply leaned on that leverage to eventually convince important NATO members to leave the alliance in favor of aligning with Russia.Instead Putin chimps out, attacks a non-NATO country, causes 2 neutral countries to join NATO, and then destroys his own country's economy, all its international goodwill, and sacrifices an entire generation of young men to a war over some farms in Donbas.
>>536484649Go back.
>>536486579>I don't think you'd be happy as part of RussiaNeither do I. What's your point? If you're saying Ukraine should have the choice sphere of influence, I disagree. Do you think Ukraine is better off now than in 2014+? You have to consider the possibilities, not the impossibilities. >muh but Finland got to join NATOIf you think that us joining NATO is a positive development for this Finnish conscripts and fighting age population. You're wrong. Us joining NATO and becoming a submissive vassal of the US is not in our interest. The US is a ruthless empire that couldn't care less about the military forces in it's periphery. The last two decades have been absolutely devastating for Europe, so I find it hard to not find it deliberate. This has to be designed. And who has the capabilities to enact mass formation psyops.
Two weeks to gloves coming off and the Russian bear awakening.
>>536486083Ukraine isn’t a part of NATO… Putin and NATO have both been avoiding a war with each other. Ukraine is just being used as a proxy state to feel out the boundaries. Blame the kikes who are using Ukraine as a cum rag.
>>536487476So they should surrender to Russia and be friends or something when Russia attacked them and shit all over their country.
>>536487143>Putin and Russia don't have any kind of authority to deny people NATO membership.What are you, 12yo? You don't get to disturb the security structure of the world, by engaging in a hostile military build up, without repercussions.>muh NATO's a defensive allianceYou can't possibly be this gullible.
>>536487476>Ukraine isn’t a part of NATOIt is actually. They have> Ukrainian bodies> NATO weapons> NATO training> NATO intelligenceWhat's the difference? Imagine if Finland got invaded. Do you think we'd get any more assistance than Ukraine?>>536487197haista....
>>536484649You fucking orc, I can claim that if you don't let me clap your mothers cheeks I'm going to invade you home kill you and rape her, that doesn't mean you have to complain with my demands.
>>536484649Tapa ittes desantti.>>536485780>We're completely inable to even consider a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia.We never had mutually beneficial relationship. Only people who benefited were politicians at the top.
It's going to be so funny watching Brussels try to militarize a demoralized third world infested post industrial Europe.
>>536487264No idea why I have a memeflag. Tapio killed me yesterday it seems.
>>536484649lol when russiatards are reduced to saying "don't look at us! look at israel!" you know they've lost.
>>536487882>Tapa ittes desantti.Tämä. Our mutually beneficial relationship has always been one sided where Russia literally told us who can govern us and we agreed because we were scared or something. Russia will ultimately collapse to their nonsense war.
>>536484649/pol/ doesn’t care about the war in Ukraine anymore, you are reading the rantings of trannies and shills.
>>536485033I think I prefer putins.
>>536487904>It's going to be so funny watching Brussels try to militarize a demoralized third world infested post industrial Europe.If you're watching from the US, yeah. It'll be ogre for us. But, the pendulum swings, and I hope AfD wins an the overton window a little and trickle down to the rest of Europe.>>536487882>We never had mutually beneficial relationshipDelusional. Why is our economy in free fall? our relation with Russia was, in fact, MUTUALLY beneficial. Europe's deindustrializing because they MADE Russia and enemy, instead of a good neighbour.There's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't ally with Russia. It's however inacceptable by the US. As the saying goesNATO exists to> KEEP RUSSIA OUT> KEEP THE US IN> KEEP THE EU(GERMANS) DOWNEU+RF coalition would mean the end of US hegemonyThey have absolutely no interest in our wellbeing. But hay, you're a child. You'll grow to learn a few things.
>>536488122You're a child.
>>536488566Luuletko sinä saatanan ryssä, että Suomen talous muka lähtee yhtäkkiä nousuun, jos suhteet Venäjään palautetaan? Itä-Suomalaisten kaupoissa käy enemmän porukkaa ja jotku saa halvempaa bensaa. Ei mikään iso yritys tule koskaan enää pistämään rahaa tuohon maahan, koska kaikki inhoaa ryssiä ja se on epävakaa valtio, joka hyökkäilee naapurimaihinsa.
>>536484649>daily thread with troonz seething about /uhg/You lost fag.
>>536488816>Luuletko sinä saatanan ryssä, että Suomen talous muka lähtee yhtäkkiä nousuun, jos suhteet Venäjään palautetaan?Parenee, joo.>>536488816>joka hyökkäilee naapurimaihinsaYou bring this up as if it's especially horrible to attack a neighbour rather than a random nation on another continent.> MUH RUSSIA ATTACKED A NEIGHBOURAttacking a neighbour is probably the most justifiable reason there is for war. Randomly attacking countries on another continent (US/ME) posing no threat, is unjustifiable. Pick your champion:> moral one> immoral one
>>536489146>Attacking a neighbour is probably the most justifiable reason there is for war.WHAT
>if you do this thing i dont want you to do ill attack youor you could just not attack
Even if Ukraine was a NATO ass EU tranny country they would never attack Russia or threaten them. Why the fuck would they? No one wants to attack Russia or gives a shit about them. Putin is just assblasted that former vassal state had enough.
>>536489266>WHATIf it turns into a hostile military power. Is it not justifiable to engage preemptively militarily? If you could. Please justify the last two wars the US engaged in (Iran, Venezuela). Then justify the last two wars Russia engaged in (Chechnya & Ukraine)
>>536486677no dumbass it's just because russia wanted control over crimea and felt entitled to it. ukraine used to let russia have unofficial control over it and russia used to interfere in their elections to keep it that way, when ukraine started actually westernizing and demanding sovereignty russia couldn't deal with it. they also believed their own bullshit about how the rest of the world is just as corrupt as they are so they thought punishing ukraine would be a gimme for them, but it turns out mindraped slave societies are weak and free societies can adapt and run rings around them. "quality beats quantity" has been russia's existential fear for centuries.
>>536489606Trump's stupid wars happened years after Russia attacked Ukraine. None of those are justified.
>>536484649theres gonna be anudda world war. europe will burn, ww2 isnt over, the capitalists decided to switch to fascism/militarism to preserve their wealth and sold a bunch of god and country mumbo jumbo to amerimutts.
>>536489563>Even if Ukraine was a NATO ass EU tranny country they would never attack Russia or threaten themHow can you possibly be this stupid. Azov, Svodoba, rhetoric. They've been schooled and trained to be a militant force fucking about with Russia. Do you think e.g. the US would sit idly by if its neighbours would start get into bed with China militarily? No. There was a finely tailored security structure in Europe that has been violated by the West.We're the aggressor, and Russia responded accordingly.
>>536484649You're right.
>>536489769I haven't a clue of who you're arguing with
>>536489878Where would've they attacked? There's nothing there. Russia is an empty country.
>>536484649Just a reminder that 4chan is banned in russia and you can't post without a VPNFinland and Germany are 2 cheapest VPS destinations for setting up a VPN, treat every zigger shill under these flags as a potential russgolian vatnik pidor>>536489563>Putin is just assblasted that former vassal state had enough.This and only this. Ichkeria, Georgia, now Ukraine. Would include baltics here too but their overwhelming whiteness compared to mentioned nations allowed them to foresee future events and join NATO in advance.
>>536486579>He was vague but if you read between the lines it's all there. Said it was a "strategic mistake" for Suomi to join NATO and they'd be forced to respond.Is that not the reasonable response of a rational actor?Wouldn't we do the same? It's not an aggression.
>>536490126how do you post with russia flag then?
>>536490338Take a wild guess how and why
>>536487626>So they should surrender to RussiaHow about just remaining neutral? It has served them well before. They could be a trade hub between Russia and the EU. There's absolutely no need for hostilities if both parties feel secure (as they've done since Ukraine got independence). Again, stop thinking about the impossibilities, consider the possibilities.Do you think Ukraine's better of now? No. It's not. It's a rump state with a diaspora almost four times my country's population. I do not consider Ukrainian's stupid, so it wasn't their decision. CIA/MI6 took control, and it lead to devastation.Foreign NGO's is a cancer on any sovereign nation.
>>536490203Cool you didn't even react to the part where the Canadian poster talked about Finland being a part of Russia.>>536490487>How about just remaining neutralIt's a sovereign country and they can do whatever the fuck they want.
>>536488816>oska kaikki inhoaa ryssiä ja se on epävakaa valtio, joka hyökkäilee naapurimaihinsaagain... "attacked his neighbour"... you're so fucking simple it's embarrassing. When is war justifiable to you?
>>536484649>NATO expansion>They're in fact fighting all of NATO. It's a defensive alliance, and the latter is just laughable Russian propaganda. Countries have a right to join NATO if they want and NATO takes them. Russia doesn't want countries to join it because it makes it more difficult for Russia to bully its neighbors, as simple as. Russia considers itself entitled to wield power over its neighbors and alliances like NATO make it more difficult. So hang yourself, Igor, or go take part in your glorious special military operation instead of being a coward. You definitely don't belong in this country. If you're native Finnish as unlikely as it is, you need to hang yourself asap for being too retarded to exist.
>>536490657>When is war justifiable to you?Never?
>>536490654>It's a sovereign country and they can do whatever the fuck they want.Then expect war. And don't blame the initiator.I must repeat, you're 12yo and should be here, especially not at this time.
>>536490862>12yo and should be here>shouldn't, naturally
>>536490862I think it's pretty 12yo thing to go to war because wah wah they joined with the baddies and aren't our friends anymore.
>>536490703>hurrrr defensive alliance, dindu nuffin, silly ruski propagandaNATO is the opposing global axis. Russia has tried to be a part of it but was gatekept. that plus territorial encroachment over the years is in and of itself a threat. ukraine is the buffer to said threat.
>>536490703>It's a defensive alliance
>HIVan on VPN calling others duplicitous fucking retardsThat's rich, no VPN can hide your subhuman russianness.
>>536484649Russia will win the war, Putin is very strong.
>>536493809>scary nato gonna invade russia bwah bwah
