Are the Scots a Germanic or Celtic people fundamentally?
edinburgh is anglo saxon and scots language is germanic
mutts like that whole cursed island
>>536489232It's something like half Brythonic, one fourth Gaelic, one fourth Anglo
>>536489232The latter, they did get NORSED somewhat but there was never large scale settlement like in England
A lot are R1b. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b
>>536489462Oh yeah I forgot the norse part, too. It's much less than all the others but it's there and significant enough to mention
A Greek Enclave from the Bronze Age
>>536489232Anglos don’t exist. 95% of them were genocided and raped by the Normans. Any Germanic DNA mostly comes from Viking invasions. That’s why Brits all have nearly similar baseline levels. Nearly all western and central Europe including England is majority or near majority Celtic blood, with the exception of Denmark, Holland, the general Nordic countries. Germans are over 50% Gaul. Even Hungarians and Czechs are like 1/3 or more Celtic. The genetics of Europe are barely changed since Roman times.
McFarlane taught a course on it Oxford - available on youtube, he discusses Adam Smith as his later work Theory of Sentiments or something like that was found in the 20th century in a Glasgow book shop.McFarlane with great aplomb in his youtube lecture series discusses Alexander The Great as taking refuge for a while on the Isle of Lewis where he would build a Temple of Apollo - which later Julius Caesar would remark as the greatest astronomical enclosure his men had ever bared witness to.
>>536489762Likewise Austrians are only 9% Germanic and 61% Gaul/Celt.Makes sense since the Hallstatt area is where Celtic culture was born. European genes are essentially still the same as they were 2000 years ago.
>>536489942The birthplace of Celtic culture. The Rhine and the Danube and Vienna etc are named after ancient Celtic words.
>>536489232Scots are Ancient Egyptians, descendants of Princess Scota of Egypt, daughter of Akhenaten. That's why they wear kilts.
>>536490292Sometimes also said to bePharaoh NectaneboWho was present at the birth of Merlin as well.
>>536489232Yee.
>>536490451Even their flag is literally made out of pyramids
>>536490565The progenitor of the Celts married Akhenaten’s daughter after they were exiled from Egypt. That’s why you randomly get 1-2% ancient Egyptian maternal DNA in some western coastal parts of Scotland and Ireland. It’s the origin of the Masons which is why it’s called the Scottish rite.
>>536490565Even accounting for the 4th pyramid of Giza. Which sits in a higher dimension.
>>536490292So you're saying my ancestors were da real kangz nshiet?
>>536490768Akenhatens father was calledAy
>>536490768Yes. Genghis Khan was R1B too. His dad’s tribe was known for being ginger with blue eyes.
>>536490685The Irish Book of Invasions claimed the progenitors of the Gaels were involved in building the pyramids.>Fénius Farsaid is the forebear of the Gaels. Fénius, a prince of Scythia, is described as one of 72 chieftains who built the Tower of Babel. His son Nel weds Scota, daughter of the Egyptian pharaoh Cingris, and they have a son named Goídel Glas. Goídel crafts the Goidelic (Gaelic) language from the original 72 languages that arose after the confusion of tongues. Goídel's offspring, the Goidels (Gaels), leave Egypt at the same time as the Israelites (the Exodus) and settle in Scythia. After some time they leave Scythia and spend 440 years travelling the Earth, undergoing trials and tribulations akin to those of the Israelites. The druid Caicher foretells that their descendants will reach Ireland.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebor_Gab%C3%A1la_%C3%89rennI take that all with a grain of salt.The Stone of Scone currently used to coronate British monarchs is supposedly taken from the Hill of Tara where it was used to coronate Irish High Kings.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone
H Group RepresentA prominent example is the famous Belfast mummy "Takabuti," which was revealed to belong to the exceptionally rare subhaplogroup H4a1.
From the eye it seems that the majority of british, irish and french people are still genetically extremely celtic. There are small portions of all 3 that are obviously germanic (coastal irish, southern english edinburgh, parisians) but otherwise celts just stopped speaking celtic languages for the most part
>>536490967>nigga is literally Dravidian
>>536489762Essentially this, I didn't see it yet
>>536490919The irish book of invasions is complete nonsense larp on the tier of anglo israelism, BTW. They literally refer to vikings as gentiles in that "book" because they wanted to be jews so bad
>>536491109Yeah, but if people want to larp as Ancient Egyptians or whatever, then they might as well add that to their larp
>>536490898>Genghis’s father Yesugeï was from a clan named the Borjigin. The clan name Borjigin translates to "blueish-gray," or "grey-eyed". Members of the Borjigin clan ruled over the Mongol Empire,[11] dominating large lands stretching from Java to Iran and from Mainland Southeast Asia to Veliky Novgorod in Russia.> In 2004, we first discovered 5 graves belonging to the Golden family in Tavan Tolgoi, Eastern Mongolia. To define the genealogy of the 5 bodies and the kinship among them, SNP and/or STR profiles of mitochondria, autosomes, and Y chromosomes were analyzed. Four of the 5 bodies were determined to carry the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup D4, while the fifth carried haplogroup CZ, indicating that this individual had no kinship with the others. Meanwhile, Y-SNP and Y-STR profiles indicate that the males examined belonged to the R1b-M343 haplogroup. Thus, their East Asian D4 or CZ matrilineal and West Eurasian R1b-M343 patrilineal origins reveal genealogical admixture between Caucasoid and Mongoloid ethnic groups.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5023095/Genghis was likely a WMAF hapa from a Celtic father. The Yenisei Kyrgyz are described by the ancient Chinese as having bright red hair and green or blue eyes. R1B came from Lake Baikal in Russia so it’s not surprising.
>>536491157I mean it's kino in a retarded vril kind of way which i get but it really was just fat irish monks fantasizing about being biblical characters
>>536491249There were a lot of whites in asia, which I always found interesting. Virtually every single description of the buddha has him as light skinned and blue eyed
>>536489232Lowland Scots = fake Scots, Germanic intruders, racial replaced celts in the lowlands around the 1400’sHighland Scots = real Scots, Celtic origin ie gaelic
>>536489232Whatever they are, I hate them for entrenching intra-Christian sectarian hatred and violence in Canada.
>>536490685British Celtic has Semitic influence fromPhoenicians and before them the ancient Egyptians and tartessians traded in Celtic Britain hence the Semitic and afroasiatic language borrowing.
>>536491109Jews are only the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, the other tribes sailed away
>>536491253lmao
>>536490967>>536491055This is maternal haplgroup, 50% of Europeans are H. Not to be confused with male haplogroup H which is divided into gypsy/south Asian H1 and a rare gene called H2 which was found in ancient Neolithic Europe. Both originating somewhere in the zagros mountains ages ago.
>>536491277tocharians,which died out or intermixed with mongoloids becoming the huns and later turkic people
>>536491277Indian elite was White Aryans 4000 years ago. They degenerated with the disintegration of the caste system
>>536489352Yeah, anglo-pass.
>>536491249>R1b-M343 This is the upstream. It’s not the Slavic, Germanic or Celtic varieties. The original R1b man was a swarthoid that originated in Central Asia 20k years ago.
>>536489232they're scotch, mostly comprised of heroin and aids
They don’t like to admit it but most of the Scots in the lowlands got Normaned.
>>536489515are you 30 iq?
>>536491585This Mongol gene has not been downstreamed. It is likely to be Yamnaya which is a different subclade to Germanic and Celtic R1b. Then of course, it could just be a native variety. The original R1b man was not white. At any rate, there are too many people that have an embarrassing surface level understanding of archeogenetics. Finally, 50% of Mongols today are C2 which can only mean Borjigin was C2.
>>536491743Raped replaced. The person that allowed it to happen was Robert the Bruce that allowed English farmers to settle in the lowlands even though Scotland freed itself from Plantagenet rule. The Scottish Royal lines were still Gaelic in gene but they didn’t care about their lowland brothers being ethnically replaced despite being the same ethnic group. Very interesting!
>>536489232Scandinavian.
>>536491277The Steppe is the birthplace of the White man. All of Mongolia, Central Asia, and Northern China was originally White. They only became more Mongoloid within the last 1500 years or so. There were 2 Aryan invasions of India. One was around 3500 years ago, by the Andronovo/Yamnaya Whites, who are genetically closest to Norwegians, Nords and Celts. The second invasion was around 400BC when the White Yuezhi formed the Kushan empire in Iran and North India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushan_EmpireThis is also around the time Buddha appears. Possibly a member of Kushan royalty. Buddhism was then brought into China by his White followers. You can see red haired monks wearing typical Scythian and Tocharian outfits painted on the Kizil Cave walls. Chariots evolved on the Steppe for long distance flat terrain, and the Romans remarked that the Celts were still using them when they arrived in Britain. Many of the Tarim mummies are wrapped in Tartan pattern wool blankets. The Celts were likely a brother tribe of the Tocharians who went west, while the Tocharians stayed in Central Asia and China. The Han Chinese were extremely jealous of the wealthy White Buddhist towns along the silk roads like Kucha and tried many times to seize their property. Eventually Whites were forced to flee to Iran and Afghanistan which is why some Pashtuns and Nuristanis have light hair and eyes.
>>536491777>>536491585Cope. We know who the Aryans were. They’re closest to Nords and Celts.
>>536491916this.based knowledge you have
>>536492060Neither of these were celts. R1a is not Celt, let alone Mongol. It is Slavic and Scythian. Anyways, we can explain Germanic and even Slavic ancestry in Irish today from the fact that at one point Ireland was raped by invaders and then the “black” Irish from the interlands reraped them back and successfully converted back to Celtic YDNA whilst still keeping those Germanic genes which included Slavic because corded ware were proto slavs that raped Scandinavia around 2900-2500 bc before being raped by Germanics from the Baltic area around 2500 to 2000 bc.
>>536489232>Germanicdon't exist. People of Germania were killed or fled far away. Last ones would be your Scots or some Russians.
>>536492183Saaar. The Aryans were not Slavs, although they are still closer to Aryans than modern Jeets. We have their bones. Aryans = Norwegians. >To him , Rudra the strong , great , fair-complexioned I utter forth a mighty hymn of praises". - [Rig Veda 2]>"Indra , the Iron One with yellow beard and yellow hair." - [Rig Veda 10]">"By slaying the Dasyus (natives), he [Indra] protected the Aryan color" - [Rig Veda 3]>"Indra protected in battle the Aryan worshipper, he subdued the lawless for Manu, he conquered the black skin." - [Rigveda, Book 1, Indra 130.8>"The thunderer who bestowed on his white friends the fields, bestowed the sun, bestowed the waters." - [Rigveda, Book 1, Indra 100.18 (I.C.18)>"Active and bright have they come forth, impetuous in speed like bulls, driving the black skin far away." - [Rig veda , Soma Pavamana - 9.41.1]>The sacrificer poured out thanks to his god for "scattering the slave bands of black descent", and for stamping out "the vile Dasyan colour." - [ Rig Veda . II.20.7, II.12.4 ]>"O'er Sire and Mother they have roared in unison bright with the verse of praise, burning up riteless men, Blowing away with supernatural might from earth and from the heavens the swarthy skin which Indra hates." - [Rig Veda , Soma Pavamana - 9.73.5]>"Black skin is impious" - [ Rigveda, Book 2, Indra 12.4 (2.XXII.4)>"The vile Dasyan (native) colour." - [Rigveda, Book 2, Indra 20.7, 12.4 (2.XX.7, 2.XII.4)>“The black skin, the hated of Indra">"Indra, the slayer of Vrittra, the destroyer of cities, has scattered the Dasyu sprang from a black womb." *- Rigveda, Book 2, Indra 20.6 (2.XX.7) [ Muir I.174 ]>"He, much invoked, hath slain Dasyus and Simyus, after his wont, and laid them low with arrows. The mighty Thunderer with his fair-complexioned friends won the land, the sunlight, and the waters."Indra - 1.100.18You jeets still have a cargo cult dedicated to BWC and is based off Celtic Taranis and Nordic Thor. Let that sink in.
>>536489232>ask a simple question on /pol/>get dozens of retarded bullshit answersNative scots were genetically celtic. The germanic portion came later.
Mostly English LARPers
>>536492553Your ancestors were jeetish. You’re literally chimping out and we wuzzing and too surface level to even address my criticism of your retardation which I base with facts. You are not Yamnaya. Germanics and Yamnaya are as different to each other as ancient Egyptians and Israelites.
>>536492183Also, the Irish have no Slavic ancestry. wtf are you talking about. Some Russians (around 5%) have Scottish ancestry because thousands of Scottish mercenaries went to fight the Tatar yoke in the 1700s alongside the Prussians. Russians only have around 5% Germanic ancestry too, mostly from surviving Volga Germans. Jeet is butthurt and lying because White men have been his gods for 3500+ years.
>>536490292Hyksos.
>>536492832>your ancestors were jeetishKEK. Jamboy cope and seethe. Europeans have no Indian ancestry. Meanwhile 75% of North Indians still bear the hallmark of being mass-raped by Norwegian men.I know it hurts little bro. Just admit your jeetas threw you under the juggernaut for BWC.
>>536489762You're a fucking retard.
>>536491524there are som interdastin depiction of tocharians in the mogao caves
>>536492895You can’t get your story straight and are shuffling between ydna and autosomal dna ancestry by posting low iq sintashta autosomally relatedness. Sintashta were related to ancient slavoids because slavoids and Scythians came from the same swamp forest.
>>536493086I saw left in the line for Gregg's yesterday
>>536493090>y-your ancestors were Indian>n-no! DNA testing doesn’t mean anything!Hush, jamboy.
>>536493084Saaar.
>>536491766No
>>536493377>>536493190You dipshit, sintashta were R1a. Not R1b celts like current Irish. Any autosomal relatedness is irrelevant to the Germanic vs Celtic question. Nigger.
>>536493499You stupid nigger, haplogroup accounts for less than 1% of your DNA. Does an American nigger being R1B make him an Englishman? No, now fuck off jamcunt.
>>536489232Highlanders = CelticLowlanders = GermanicDeep lore: Lowland “Scots” are actually the trve Anglo-Saxons who fled North after W*lliam The Bastard took Hastings.
>>536493695>who gives a fuck about your fathers father et al, you know an actual bloodlineTypical Germanic cuck.
>>536494111Just because your jeeta mother fucks random niggers for 5 rupees a shot doesn’t mean the rest of us have to worry about who our fathers are. We already know.
>>536489232(PART 1/2)Fundamentally Celtic if you’re forcing me to pick, but there’s obviously Germanic influence as well. The Picts were Celtic, Dal Riata was Celtic. Obviously Scottish nationalism in recent times has mainly focused on highlighting differences from the English, and so it’s bound to influence Scottish culture and perceptions of what Scotland “truly” is and push both in a mor Celticized direction.That being said, the Germanic influence on Scottish culture, and yes, even genetics, cannot be ignored. Obviously the Norse settled in many areas and influenced genetics and culture, but so fid Anglo-Saxons, and unbeknownst to most people, even other groups.The Flemish have had a huge influence on Scottish culture, for example. This was one of the longest-lasting migrations to Scotland over its history, for 600 years on and off from the 11th century to the 17th century. There’s also history of Norman settlement there. If you’ve ever heard of a Scottish person with the last name Sinclair, they have at least some Norman ancestry. The surname “Sinclair” is a corruption of the Norman surname “de Saint-Claire”.
>>536489232>>536495029(PART 2/2)Another thing, Scotland has a separate language different from the two that most people are most familiar with, those being Scottish English and Scottish Gaelic. That language is Scots. Yes, before you ask, it IS a separate language. It’s not just “English with a funny accent and some slang”, it started to diverge from English in the 15th century, and someone speaking actual Scots would be very difficult to understand for an English speaker, if not impossible.People largely deny the existence of Scots because most Scottish people speak Scottish English with some Gaelic words and Scots terms mixed in, or a pidgin mix of Scots and Scottish English.So, to sum it up, it is a mix of Germanic and Celtic, with FAR MORE Germanic influence than people know about, but if you put a gun to my head and force me to pick one, then Celtic, because that’s what “differentiates” the Scots from the English.
>>536489232d&c thread btw
>>536489347Because it's a descendant of English and not the original language they spoke. Scotland is pretty thoroughly Celtic.
>>536492553Norwegians are 1/3 R1a. Obviously, what happened is that the R1a Aryan BVLLs were preserved in Norway the best due to the population density and the fact that they are on, almost, the farthest edge from the steppes.
>>536489232Most of europe is celtic if you go back enough, that said the british isles where the last places that remained celtic.But the uk have a lot of legit (roman) italian looking brits, scandi looking ones, celtic looking ones they are kinda mixed, scots maybe less so.
>>536489762>>536489942Kinda true
>>536489762>Germans are biggest mutts in Europe that project that outwards at othersYou don’t say.
>>536489232Celtic
>>536492060Guy looks like my neighbor, just more blond.Funny that
>>536493885They aren’t Germanic at all aside from from small % of Viking ancestry mixed in which is honestly negligible But even less culturally traditionally speaking
>>536495621Austrians and Bavarians and Swiss are still Celtic. Austrians are only 9% Germanic on average. The Tyrol is the only area of Europe I’d be willing to die for. God’s country.
>>536495384Gaelic (Scottish) is a Celtic language English is a Germanic language with remnants of old Brittonic in words phrases
>>536495058>ScotsMuh hillbilly lip slop is a language
Everyone in Europe or from Europe is related to ten thousand steppe nomads who lived on the Volga river 4700 years ago when some clever cunt said hey why don't we ride these horses instead of fucking eating them and some other clever cunt who noticed that logs rolled and you could take two slices and roll on them, they then either butchered everybody else or took their women, and anybody they didn't murder or raped died of the plague.All national distinctions are trivial we are all just fucking Volgans
>>536489232Kilt wearers are really girls. It's that kind of place.
>>536489942>>536489762>treating distance matrices as X% ancestryyou just plug and chugged somebody else's data didn't you
>>536489503this. R haplogroup (like r1b or r1a) were originated in altai republic in the deep asia, and then migrated west. the haplogroups are your father father father father... so people thinks it means your full dna when its only a part of your dna, just see chad lake niggas and compare them to dutch, they are clearly very diff. in fact the first r1b carriers werent white people but something diff (they dont match any of current ethnicities) when r1b reached europe most of the genes of modern populations were already there. also modern traits now associated with Europeans, such as blond hair and blue eyes, are actually traits of Asian/Mongoloid origin but due to migrations and mixing they mostly dissapeared from asia and widespread in europe. also some traits arrived before others. first people of scandinavia were black skinned, were they niggers? no, they were europeans, they had European cranial features, they also had blue eyes, and were very distant genetically from niggers. just that the white skin feature wasnt develop/spread.
>>536496591Scots is a Germanic language.
>>536495384>original language they spokeThat would be Pictish, not Gaelic. Scotland, like the rest of the British Isles was subject to successive waves of European settlers and invaders over centuries so there's a mix of phenotypes like the fair skinned, freckled ginger stereotype to the tanned, dark haired, blue eyes phenotype (e.g. Sean Connery).
>>536497825>such as blond hair and blue eyes, are actually traits of Asian/Mongoloid originI don’t believe you.
I'm not going to pretend to know history. What I do know is the Jews are scooping up filthy third world sludge and dropping it off here more and more with every day that passes. Every time I go out I see more blacks and browns. And with their numbers has come a newfound confidence. They are beginning to swagger when they walk. My country has been handed to them on a silver platter and they know it. I've started to see them spit and piss on the street. I see more and more bizarre sights each time I leave the house. I look around and none of the Scottish 'men' give a shit about the invasion. In fact they've embraced it. Often when I see shitskins they're in a white friend group. I can't describe how depressing it is here.
>>536489232'Scots' are more Germanic and speak an Anglo Saxon language but I think you're asking about Scottish people generally, in which case it's a mix depending on if you're from the highlands and outer hebrides or lowlands and to what degree you have irish and viking admixture. The Gaelic Scottish and Germanic Scottish have been in conflict with eachother forever.
