Almost all great people in history had a classical education. This means they studied Latin, logic and rhetoric. They sure as hell didn't go to some public school to do nothing but plug-and-chug exercises and rote memorization and to harbor an anti-logic sentiment for the rest of their lives. They studied how to think.https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xu5eRDbW7kY (link which doesn't generate click revenue for the creator)
>>536505426Public school is for placing you into a social hierarchy for future employment. The goal isn’t education or learning stuff. It is purely to certify your social standing. That’s why females are so good at it.
>>536505579Mostly correct, but you should drop that female/male newspeak.
These front-end services tend to be a bit unreliable, posting another link in case the first one freezes up for you. These are the equivalent of posting archive links for articles.https://inv.nadeko.net/xu5eRDbW7kY
>>536505426instead of posting a link about the stuff, post a link OF the stuff.videos on the actual content, not some basedgoy talking about it.where to learn latinwhere to learn logicwhere to learn rhetoric???>here's a video of some guy talking about some stuff related to the stuff others learned, wasn't it neatidc about that, give me the actual stuff
I fucking hate the inauthentic tik tok cookie cutter mannerisms of so many youtubers. But at least he's not getting any ad revenue from this thread.
I am contributing to the eyes on this thread, this post serves as a bump in the catalog rather an remaining an apathetic lurker.
>>536505880How do you feel about The Jesuit Educational Model - could you talk a little of it?
>>536505579Employment and autonomy is a small part of current education, now its a bloated bureacracy to day care young adults. The point is to gaslight them to think they have no duties and no rights, through infantilization. They must just consume
SSSSSSSKKKKKKKKKRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTThat’s gay tho. To study logic, rhetoric and latin is not the same as to think, feel or sense logic, rhetoric or latin. Time changes, but the will to adapt does not.Try again elitist. You talk of the old ones, but have failed to understand their father.
medieval university/school lasted for 10 years, "student" was a social class then, that everybody else hated with a passion, literally someone like "fraternity bro" from modern murica>>modern schoolis not really a place fir teaching, lolmodern achool is "prussian school" where they integrate plebs into societybullying at school used to be so much tolerated untlil almost "recent year", cos it reflect how you later gonna be butraped by your "boss"
>>536506016What is the Latin for Will
>>536505843https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logick_2507_librivoxhttps://archive.org/details/artoflogicalthin00atkihttps://archive.org/details/the-trivium-the-liberal-arts-of-logic-grammar-and-rhetoric-sister-miriam-josephhttps://archive.org/details/familia-romanahttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/533105698/#533119290https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/533105698/#533119346https://archive.org/details/collardaniellsfi00collrichhttps://archive.org/details/latinfortodayfir0000grayhttps://archive.org/details/revisedlatinprim00kennialahttps://archive.org/details/latinforbeginner00doogrichhttps://archive.org/details/jenneys-first-year-latin-1984https://archive.org/details/CommentariesOnTheGallicWarCaesarCompletelyParsedBookIhttps://archive.org/details/completely-parsed-cicero-oration-1https://archive.org/details/fully-parsed-horace-odes-translation-pub-cohttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31822003632080
>>536505426Yeah but we live in an anglosaxon paradigm where literature, philosophy, etc are gay because they don't make direct money and so everything is reduced to money and productivity (and this paradigm isn't only anglo anymore has it infected every other culture).
Thank‘s for your service Swedebro. Gods work. Looking forward to the Trivium
>>536505843If you want to get started learning Latin instantly I recommend Familia Romana. A few chapters in you're going to get stuck and will want to try either supplementing with the Neumann Companion which I linked in the previous post, https://leftychan.net/edu/src/1608528074592-0.pdf, or by moving on to a traditional grammar textbook while using readers on the side.
>>536506303Strive for knowledge, structure and understanding as it manifested as the scientific language
>>536505426Public schools are instruments of population control. True education happens on the job, schools are there to hammer in that you are cattle.
>>536506486Astute, but we need to fight it on an individual level. If you want to learn anything you need to do it on your own.https://desuarchive.org/wsg/thread/6150694/#6154484https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1su5MMRTMhttps://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof28.htmhttps://youtu.be/IvYaOtciyfk&t=18430
It really seems like western civilization has become retarded ever since classical education died out.
>>536505426Remember when the computers rolled around and all the boomers gushed about how "Information Tech" would make the younger generations smarter then them? Then iPad and apps rolled around.
>>536506486>>536506847>https://desuarchive.org/wsg/thread/6150694/#6154484*>>>/wsg/6166402
>>536505843It's not Latin, logic and rhetoric,per se, it's grammar, logic and rhetoric and for a full classical education, onemust also learn astronomy, mathematics, music and geometry
>>536505426Swedebro, help me. I have had a fucked up life. I went to a a shitty public school surrounded by niggers and barely graduated because of the bad environment. Fast forward 15 years, I just got a disability insurance settlement from an injury. I would like to become educated in all the things that a White man should be educated in but I can’t focus enough to be a good student in a classroom and certainly am not self-disciplined enough to teach myself from books. I am considering moving to the Philippines for low cost-of-living and also so I have hire tutors. What do you think?t.brainlet
>>536505426Can you puta proper link,please, you commie faggot
>>536505426>>536505579do you fucking retards even know that the public schooling system as we know it is about 100 years oldthere was no such thing as school 500 years agodumb cunts
>>536507025It is grammar but it's not English grammar, it's general grammar and Latin grammar. It's also good to learn German grammar, French grammar, Russian grammar etc. Anything but English which doesn't have actual grammar. A classical education has nothing to do with English "grammar". English is brainrot, German and French are languages of culture. To acquire a classical education is to cast off the anglophone brainrot spell and chains. >>536506486https://archive.org/details/progressivegerma00adlehttps://archive.org/details/easyfrenchreadin00fishhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?app=desktop&list=PLNnqqvK2yDEFVdM_5wV4Od8kV2GaSo7jz
>>536506730>True education happens on the jobkek kys
>>536507330>he can't into reasonwhere, in my original post, did I suggest English grammar?
>>536507033>If the natural genius and temper be too volatile, fickle and wandering, such persons ought in a more special manner to apply themselves to mathematical learning, and to begin their studies with arithmetic and geometry; wherein new truths continually arising to the mind, out of the plainest and easiest principles, will allure the thoughts with incredible pleasure in the pursuit: this will give the student such a delightful taste of reasoning, as will fix his attention to the single subject which he pursues, and by degrees will cure the habitual levity of his spirit.Isaac Watts (17 July 1674 – 25 November 1748) was an English Congregational minister, hymn writer, theologian, and logiciansource: https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt/page/65https://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/1.1https://youtu.be/XLlThlqCFeghttps://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/1.2https://youtu.be/UHZO2dviZfUhttps://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/1.3https://youtu.be/_ZwcobIExtohttps://www.desmos.com/geometryhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jan-30-oe-crease30-story.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/euclid_heath_2nd_ed/1_euclid_heath_2nd_ed/page/n254https://annas-archive.gl/md5/d45ff5e6b85ca30bde1ba1925320c4f8https://archive.org/details/elementsofarithm00demorichhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/535566868/#535567644
>>536507531The power of instruction is seldom of much efficacy except in those happy dispositions where it is almost superfluous.” Feynman quoting Gibbon
>>536507152Public education was developed to prepare the public for factory jobs in the late 19th century. Why are you replying to me with this 500 year business?
>>536505426The majority of people were illiterate in 16th century England. And even the majority of literate people at the time would be considered functionally illiterate by modern standards. This is a shitskin retard tier cherry pick here.
>>536507043Why should I? It shouldn't be hard to find. Why should I contribute to his click revenue? And why should I tarnish the credibility of this thread by suspicion of being affiliated with someone trying to make money off the message? There are plenty of ways to make money, a classical education isn't one of them. I have posted many youtube links before but his tik tok mannerisms were straw that broke the camel's back.
>>536505972Yes. My kids school had a Disney marketing day for the kids.We move back and forth and take years off.
>>536506710Scientific language is almost entirely latin based you absolute mong.
Dude. y mad? We all studied logic, rhetoric, music, philosophy in junior.
>>536505426My public schools gave me a grounding in logic, if not as its own course, you learn it as part of math or programmingDidn't really learn rhetoric until university (and the course name was "writing composition" but the content was absolutely rhetoric) but then again that part is also traditional, no?Latin was offered but I didn't take it, it lost its place as the main international language to English in like the 19th century
>>536507152Yes, school only exists to dumb you down. Your point?https://youtu.be/HZp7eVJNJuwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upFxaYnrs-A&t=550
>>536506973Humanity is stratified by design, and this is what the lowest class looks like. Be above it.
>>536505426I only went to school to record upskirts
>>536507025>musicReplace that with painting
>>536508142Actual study of music is better than painting.Just strumming on a guitar no.Learning music and structure, yes.
>>536507531So I should start with mathematics? What about me hiring Filipino tutors?
>>536505579Fpbp
>>536507424then wtf is>It's not Latin, logic and rhetoric,per se, it's grammar, logic and rhetoricsupposed to mean dumbass? It was Latin grammar they studied in the Trivium.https://youtu.be/49Zeo4Qbw8Yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_schoolalso>and for a full classical education, onemust also learn astronomy, mathematics, music and geometryall of the four subjects in the quadrivium are mathematics, you mean "arithmetic", I posted links for arithmetic and geometry here >>536507531for music one book is https://annas-archive.gl/md5/024608b7ccc86918e03d133df84cc907
>>536506730>>536505579Factory schooling is a babysitting program for the nonwhite trash. Employment program for adults to babysit the nonwhite trash.jews set it up this way because they need a nonwhite population who will naturally oppose anything White when the time comes. When Whites finally attempt to remove kikes from power. Used to be kikes getting removed every 30 years or so, now it's like once a century.
>>536508330Would you please start using a trip code when posting? I would like to read your posts. Thanks.
>>536508330The Romans administered Europe until what you call the 1800s. That's why scholars were writing in Latin. Gradually they let the locals run things. The burgeoning Latin as a Second Language destroyed it and rendered it useless
>>536505579>femaleswhat is a female
>>536508388Seconded
>>536508021Some people are fucking retards and think every person in Bronze Age Greece was a scholar at the Parthenon. But the reality is the only thing we really know about the culture and society at the time is from archeological reconstructions of scattered fragments of the works of the paltry handful of people who knew how to read and write at the time. Unfortunately a bunch of 60 IQ mutt broccoli heads can't figure that simple fact out. Fast forwarding to 16th century England we do have an enormous amount of surviving records, by comparison. And we can say with absolute confidence that the majority of people were illiterate. It doesn't mean they were stupid. We just didn't have bloated bureaucratic governments forcing people to learn a bunch of shit that was completely irrelevant to whatever trade they wanted to work in. Although at the time of Shakespeare literacy was already well on the rise due to the invention of the printing press. Books became more a fact of life and less of a rare hand-made commodity and more and more people wanted to be able to read them.English Protestant leaders were already pushing for mass literacy but they really pushed for it toward the end of the 19th century.Sadly things feel like they're going backwards in the 21st century and that's because they have dumbed down the standards significantly in order to incorporate retarded shitjeets into the system. So what the kiketuber is really doing is a half-hearted appeal to reactionaries to try and deflect from the actual problem. Which is kikes flooding the west with animals shaped like humans. And this place is full of dumb retards who are taking the bait.
>>536508388>>536508499>can you become gay for me?
>>536505426school taught me how fake and gay everything was
>>536508360Everyone knows about the Laffer curve and the maximum taxation rate. No one is discussing the maximum fuck you around rate. No decent White person has sent a child to school for 20 years
>>536508208Yes, but it needs to be the good stuff, Euclid, Russian textbooks, 19th century etc, no modern Western slop. Try this: https://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/1.1, it's basically meditation. Tutors and school, don't know, just meditate, abstain from porn, fapping and alcohol, and if you can do it cut down on caffeine. Nobody is too dumb to learn on their own, you don't need some tutors or school and shit, just books and to calm the mind.
>>536508547I just make my children watch tiktoks
>>536508615Go be a kike somewhere else
>>536507865The majority of people are illiterate today, even more so than in the 19th century. Fuck off, Herbert Garrison.
>>536508021>>536508032fuck off shills
>>536508672The global literacy rate continues to increase. You can teach literal retards to read and write. So the world just feels dumber because now shitjeets have entered the picture.
>>536508672You missed my question earlier.How do you feel about the Jesuit Education Model - are you familiar with it?Are you secular yourself?
>>536507152mandatory schooling is relatively recent, yes, but there have been schools in england running continuously for over a thousand yearshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_schools_in_the_United_Kingdom
>>536508142music in the classical education is mathematics, as are the other three parts of the quadriviumfuck offhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruV4V5mPwW8
>>536508487Persons with penises
>>536505640good point
>>536505579Its about comformity and being forced to respect strangers wich decide upon your fate as authority figures, aswell as making sure you never get too smart. School has been dumbing down the whole of society. In school you don’t learn f.e. Math because you need it for something or because it‘s interesting. You learn because you must know it - to score a good grade to pass. And your whole future hangs on it. Your parents and teachers give you shit if you can’t do it. And the dimwit teacher is often another institutionally educated loser who never understood anything himself, but he scored good grades so.. Kids get literally traumatised about this stuff and they force themselves and get forced to learn it. This is not how you effectiely learn and it’s a huge waste of time. If anything you un-learn how to learn in school. Noone takes up maths or any similar discipline as a hobby when grown up because if the associations made in childhood. Most adults associate it with horror and pain. Wich is a shame. If you need to know something because it’s useful for something you are genuinely interested, you can learn (and actually apply) things you were forced to learn over 4 years within hours or days. And it’s a fun process. Your best years have been wasted by sitting 6+ hours per day in a institution. Homeschooling is not an option anymore because both parents need to work in this economy, and they were dumbed down by the same processThe institutionalization of education has been a desaster for the European people and their inherent genious.
>>536505426>invidiousfukken based>>536505762youtube urls are usually formatted as follows:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[ID]https://youtu.be/[ID]sometimes the urls above are appended with a ?si=[...] segment which is used for tracking usually. it's to remove it.https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=[ID] or maybe https://redirect.invidious.io/[ID] (haven't tested to see if this one works unlike the latter) will redirect users to a invidious instance that they can choose.for whatever reason inv.nadeko.net tends to be the most reliable one of them all idk why thoalternatively you could rip the vid off a cobalt instance and upload it on catbox or something if IP issues aren't a problem and you're willing to go that far. you really triggered my autism with this one
Schools are about equity. It's impossible to make a stupid kid smart but it's possible to make a smart kid stupid.
>>536508577>Russian textbooksDo you mean USSR-era mathematics textbooks?Also, what do you think about Lyndon LaRouche and his anti-Euclideanism? What do you think about Pestalozzi/ Colburn and Montessori methods of teaching mathematics? Paul Lockhart?
>>536508936>Mathematics is used as a weed outFreeman Dyson wrote about this. In his day latin and Greek were used to sort people. That left science as a refuge. There's a reason the jews used maths for their trauma based mind control. It's useful to have a population which recoils from it. Otherwise any well meaning genius could prove what's going down
>>536505579>They studied how to think.This. I tried thinking at school before and was penalized for it. I've also heard students complain about professors being too smart. Shitty generation, shitty social values, shitty everything, but at least women get to be paper pushers at corporations while they betray their country.
>>536508788That's not actual literacy. Actual literacy is grammar, logic and rhetoric, which is exactly what they suppress for the masses. There's a difference between "reading" and reading, between "literacy" and literacy. Actual literacy requires a classical education, which includes the Trivium. Hardly anyone is actually literate today. There were actually more literate people in the 19th century. Reading can be done the wrong way, the way they teach in school, just programming, or it can be done the right way, like in the image, which requires study of the Trivium. Reading without actual literacy is a waste of time and energy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5vu4MpYgUo&t=777s
>>536509181>teaching mathematicsWaste of time. Maths is learned in the field; building with rastas, gauging distance with soldiers, pondering the phase of the moon and confirming it. Fourier travelled with Napoleon
>>536505426Logical thinking is not useful to the capitalist ruling class. Then the slaves would revolt.
>>5365089361800s saw a lot of individual Whites making breakthrough inventions.Edisons, Wright brothers, Tesla all had informal education. Don't see that anymore.Factory schooling started in 1900s, that environment will not nurture great inventors under age 20.Instead inventions now happen in jew academia where a DEI globalhomo team will come up with some invention after kikes poured tons of fake federal reserve money into the project.
>>536509327You're just regurgitating a bunch of shit a youtuber said that affirmed your prejudices. You haven't engaged in any level of personal investigation. You're not here to engage in any kind of frank debate.By your own measure you're an illiterate shitskin.
This place has slide further since Stormfront shutdown.
>>536505426I want to study rhetoric. Is there any good books you guys can recommend?
>>536509182Interesting. I’ll check this out. ThanksWhat’s also outrageous is that this system directly produces these „trust the science“ people who think they can tell everyone what to do. What they actually mean is „trust the authority figure“ wich is exactly what is being conveyed in school. They were rewarded with good grades so much, they learned to love the system. So they devote their entire lives to becoming an authority figure as well. It’s more like „trust the experts! Because if the experts are wrong, I have wasted my life and my whole world is a lie, so dont question, just trust them, mkay?“No wonder the replication crisis is happening and everything is at a standstill.
>>536508788>>536509401Not him but illiteracy rates in the past are vastly overstated. There's been found paper from medieval times from peasant tradesmen (receipts of sale and contracts) that shows they had a functional literacy similar to what we have today. The only difference was spelling wasn't standardized so people were a lot looser with how they wrote. Literacy rates went down after the introduction of public schooling in the US. It sounds counterintuitive, but it's true. It took a few years for them to shoot up again.
>>536509378trvkewhen i was in high school only grade 10-12 counted for credits towards graduation and only grade 12 for post secondary accolades. it made sense, but what was the purpose of wasting two years (gr8-9) to get to that point? none of the courses taught in any grade prepared you for post secondary life, eitheri was among a handful who questioned it and, in turn, the entire schooling system
>>536509327Anon are you not permitted to respond to me regarding Jesuit Education which is the Superior Educational Model for producing Excellence.
Both christcucks and socialists do not want you to know this.Its especially bad in our country, OP.Sweden is basically a christian/socialist pedophilic doomsday sex cult. I am not even joking. We are basically sabbateans up here. Its David Berg/Children of God type shit. I am serious. Its fucked. Our culture and mentality is utterly fucking fucked in the head from both christianization and social democracy.Swedish women are terrible, abusive, toxic mothers that give boys in particular mommy issues for life. Now there are psychopathic men here who scar their daughters too of course though. Its all fucked. Sweden is what happens when christian crypto-jews like pic rel run amok on a society. Basically there is a "german" crypto-jewish (the official jews tend to have a more lowly working/middle class alibi here though) elite and then all this whole jante brainwashed working/middle class that has had their brains double penetrated by both the Bible and Marx.
>>536509181>>536509181books like the one I linkedhttps://annas-archive.gl/md5/d45ff5e6b85ca30bde1ba1925320c4f8Acquire a classical education, the seven liberal arts, the Trivium and the Quadrivium. Montessori, Waldorf etc aren't a classical education. The closest thing to a classical education today is in Freemasonry and yeshivas, and maybe Eton College and Boston Latin School, that's because of the power it gives you, apart from that it's self-teaching only.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavrusahttps://archive.ph/ZR5g0https://cross-currents.com/2018/11/23/what-do-they-study-at-yeshivas/>Also, what do you think about Lyndon LaRouche and his anti-Euclideanism?haven't heard about it, sounds very gay, Euclid is great, see https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/535566868/#535567481>What do you think about Pestalozzi/ Colburn and Montessori methods of teaching mathematics?See above. I support a classical education. Pestalozzi, I don't know anything about it. I've only encountered the word "pestalozzian" when I've been studying languages. Plenty of good old language textbooks are "pestalozzian", that's all I can say about that.>Paul Lockhart?Has good things to say from what I've seen but I don't know much about him. I linked a talk by him earlier in the thread, here >>536508079
>>536508547No, it's deliberate dumbing down.
>>536509546The system is a midwit bandpass filter. The products need to be smart enough to follow the protocols but not smart enough to ask who is behind the protocols. Thirty years ago GATE programs could find the most dangerous children. Now the level of noticing is such that only the PT teachers can get through. The world is collapsing without it's competent fraction while the pt teachers insist we bees positive , (but not gleeful)
>>536509865Forgot pic. This dickcheese in particular did unfathomable psychological damage.
>>536509763[Citation Needed]
>>536509939Are you unable to see my comment?Your refusal to address it is highly conspicuous.
>>536508796don't know about itsecond question I fail to see the relevance to anything
>>536507152what's it like to be wrong about everything but convinced you are right?
>>536505426Old learning system was made to create actual high quality people for nobility and clergy to handle matters which needed such intelligence. Modern learning system ergo 1800 onwards exists as to provide basic education "how to read write and basic mathematics" for future factory workers it's another quantity vs quality. These time it exists solely for daycare.
>>536508808There is a wiki article on the history of education in england. Up until ~1900 the majority of english children only received sunday school and a good portion (2/5) didn't even receive that. Before ~1800 they didn't even go to sunday school. Overeducation is a real thing. Soldiers and farmers are better off spending their growing years learning those trades rather than studying logic and geometry. The public education movement tried to give the entire populace an upper class education, even though a very small fraction of it has any use for it. Today the school system has become less of an educational program and more of a social one which needs to be abolished because it is clearly causing mass degeneracy which is inevitable when you try to have the government raise everyone's children for 16 years.
>>536510023Hard proof that education is dumbed down and literacy is falling like a rock right now. You can not even see that I am not the same ID as the one you were arguing with.
>>536509398Absolutely. And there were a lot fewer whites back then and almost no tax money was spent on education, compared to today. We still live off all the science these guys produced. Nothing significant or useful was discovered made in the last 80 years. What’s the point of spending billioms on science education and science if it doesn’t directly translates to the improvement, progress and wellfare of society? It’s useless mental masturbation and circlejerking at best>Scientist discovered another star a thousand lightyears away >The trillion dollar LHC just produced form of exotic matter that‘s was stable for a a full femtosecond. Researchers baffled>Research showed neanderthal women may have hunted mammoths. >Cosmic rays may controbute to climate changeThanks scienceAnything remotely useful gets patented and/or hidden in some big cooperations drawer. We could have had exponential progress, instead we slowly decline. Be the chance you want to see I guess
>>536510131Prussian public schooling is all about causing mass degeneracy. Its all Sabbatean-Frankist shit but for goys.
>>536505426Why the FUCK would you introduce such an important and valid topic using a 10 minute click-bait video? Fuck sake, anon, find a decent video to explore the topic, it's not hard.
>>536509933I guess it’s nowadays easier to invent and produce something useful. But impossible to get it on the market so society benefits from it. Anyway lets do our own studies and try our best, maybe one of us can make a difference
>>536510146You are pointing to models of education, what I am inquiring of you - is Are you approaching Latin as a Secular Mind, as. a Pagan or as a Monotheist?I am highly shocked you are unfamiliar with the Jesuits yet take my id mishap as the mark of illiteracy. That is a kind of performative cynicism based on a demoralisation trope.The Western canon is where you are drawing your ink from. Correct?
>>536510189Science was too fast, jews decided to slow it down “I’m thinking of setting up a trust fund. I want to do something that will really contribute to the happiness of mankind; but it’s very difficult to know what to do with money. When Mr. Rosenblatt told me that you’d be here tonight I asked the mayor to invite me. I certainly would value your advice.”“Would you intend to do anything for the advancement of science?” I asked.“No,” Mark Gable said. “I believe scientific progress is too fast as it is.”“I share your feeling about this point,” I said with the fervor of conviction, “but then why not do something about the retardation of scientific progress?”“That I would very much like to do,” Mark Gable said, “but how do I go about it?”“Well,” I said, “I think that shouldn’t be very difficult. As a matter of fact, I think it would be quite easy. You could set up a foundation, with an annual endowment of thirty million dollars. Research workers in need of funds could apply for grants, ...
>>536510374>so society benefitsWe are not the same. Grothendieck pointed out that devils run this world. He was sorry for the powers he gave them and tried to recall his work. I learned from standing on his toes of giant. I am non interventionist in this worlb, except when encounter men of genius. Then I am an evangelical non interventionist
>>536510374>Anyway lets do our own studies and try our best, maybe one of us can make a differenceHow fares Austria, glorious Nihon?
>>536508808yeah not public schoolingthose colleges were for the nonce class elitesnot peasants like you>>536510069you tell me
>>536510203I disagree with the "Prussian automaton" theory of public education. For me the proof is in the pudding. Did British Public education produce a bunch of Prussian robots? Not really. It produced a bunch of liberal, hedonistic nitwits who loved rioting against the government whenever they perceived inequality, sexism, or racism. In other words, liberalism/socialism/communism. This mass produced liberalism is directly correlated with the collapse of the British Empire. I doubt the elites wanted that. Also, elites do not operate in a vacuum. Many of the elites of the period that public education came into being, the progressive era from the late 19th to early 20th century, were upwardly mobile industrialists, bankers, and intellectuals who fought all their lives against the entrenched holdovers of the 18th century elites. They believed in the meritocracy, like Rockefeller or Carnegie, who advanced from being very poor to being very rich. And they were surrounded by millions of other upwardly mobile liberal professionals who also had this same egalitarian ideology. Egalitarianism, liberalism, communism - whatever it was called - was the moral force which lent legitimacy to the big state interventions in society and the economy during this period. Parents were happy to see their children taken to government school because they believed it would increase their equality with higher classes. Many people working in government and philanthropy to achieve public education must have done so out of an egalitarian ideology. And, looping back to where I started, the final rewards of mass education have been the normalization of radical egalitarian ideology which is exactly why the British Empire collapsed, why everyone in the US hates the Vietnam War and Iraq War and Iran War, why leftwing Israelis want Palestinians, gays, and women to have rights, and why the entire structure of Western Civilization has become soft and defenseless.
>>536510397Are you a bot? Because you just completely ignored that you mistook me for another ID with the same flag.
>>536510131the big problem with education in this country began in the 1960s with the building of new comprehensive schools, which did anything but live up to their namesake, and the sidelining and eventual scrapping of the 11 plus exam and grammar schools. all in the name of equality you understand, it being seen as unfair to allow the more capable to get proper educational attention which would help them attain higher acheivements in lifemy old school had a latin department when it was built in the 60s, by the time i was there it had long been shuttered, though the signage for it was still visible on the walls
>>536510666Well sure. I also kind of disagree about the notion that Prussians invented this whole fuckfaced education system too. For the reasons you mentioned. But then you just had to go on a hasbara tangent at the end there and whine about how people were brainwashed into not liking ZOG wars like Iraq or Iran. Nice try. High effort actually. But you still can not help yourself.
Also, the most important point. The sinister motives of the progressive reformers. As evidenced by their own boasts using statistics.1. The more educated people are, the less crime they commit.Elites saw education as a way to remove the unruly lower classes from existence by transmuting them into middle classes. No more worrying about getting stabbed or robbed while walking down main street. No more worrying about riots or even revolutions (1789, 1917) when everyone is as placid and law abiding as a lawyer. This is constantly touted in the pro education literature of the 19th century. 2. Occupying the young people of the criminal classThey openly admitted that they needed schools as an inner city daycare to avoid having large gangs of young men and women roaming around the cities causing trouble.3. Reducing fertility ratesThis is a late 20th century and early 21st century argument, but they still use this all the time when trying to advance their social reform initiatives in Africa. Statistically, the more educated women of a populace are, the less children they have. Whether this is because they are occupied during reproduction years or because of psychological factors is debateable. This is obviously an unmitigated good unless you are totally braindead. Due to Africa's fertility rate they are on track to have 4 billion people by 2100, which will obviously cause massive problems both for themselves and for us.
>>536510677I asked you about Jesuit education. Since doing so you appear to malfunctioning - I aknowledged in my last reply I may have mistaken your post and another poster.Why are you unable to answer the question if you are an Atheist, a Pagan or a Monotheist?It's quite significant for people to know who they are learning from, don't you think?
>>536505426universal education is communist idea that brainwashes you to be a zombie servant to fent lacdd globohomo society and overdose on shitskinsbefore education everyone was a white nationalist>>536505579shake his ass spear got butt fucked to enlightenmenthaving a spiritual awakening when the penis enters their anus at a certain depth and shoots jizz inside which makes them unravel their Kundalini energy from the base of the spine upward to their brain and thus making them close to Plato's daemon>>536225269That's what they want you to think. At the highest ranks everything about sodomy. The eagles and the vitruvian man are not what you think they mean. In both, they are fucking another eagle/man in the anus. I know this is hard to believe, but this is what the 33 symbolizes. It looks like an anus, so it represents a man fucking another man in the ass. This relates back to the hindu teachings about Kundalini. It is said in the occult that when you fuck another man in the ass, it gives you magical powers. I could provide endless examples of how they are promoting sodomy in today's society.>>536225157Freemason are involved with sodomy magic. All high level "alpha" freemasons have at some point taking it up the ass. No joke.Matter of fact, you arent "enlightened" or "awoken" until you had your rectum penetrated, thus opening up one of the "chakra points", and getting the kundalini satan serpent into you.Maybe it sounds crazy, but this is how the elite roll. Everyone gets plugged up the anus at some
>>536510906Greek's enlightened themselves via 3rd eye butt sexPlato had infamous 3rd eye daemonastral projection you have to stick something in the anus to make going up ida, shushuma and pingala up the spine awakening the kundalini making it come out through the eye in the middle of the forehead
>>536509401Being able to read a sign that says "do not enter" is not literacy, Herbert Garrison, being able to get something out of a dense book is, now shut up and lurk. You are right, I'm not here to debate, I'm here to enlighten people.
>>536510628>yeah not public schoolingthere was no such distinction 500 years agoif you were worth schooling you went to one of those on the listsimple asthey werent the exclusive domain of the privileged and wealthy as they are nowif you were nobility or rich back then you had a private tutor
>>536510906>No more worrying about riots or even revolutions (1789, 1917)"Revolutions", huh? Those are always facilitated by elites though. There are no grass roots "revolutions" ever. Its always been top down. The american and french revolutions were revolutions of the merchant class, not the people. The russian revolution was freemasonic and led by urbanite middle class academics funded by western corporate capital.
>>536510884The question is why would the elites deliberately institute a system which makes the majority of people that come out of that antipatriotic. As we can see, it is causing US imperialism to fail due to mass domestic unpopularity. In fact, the US population is becoming antisemitic, NOT because of jewish media or banking control, which they have been kept unawares of, but because of muh poor brown palestinians. In other words, liberalism/egalitarianism/communism. Which is also why the British and French Empires collapsed and subsequently welcomed their former victims en masse into their borders. Because the British, French, and American populations are a bunch of soft hearted egalitarian commies who want rainbows and everyone to join arms and sing kumbaya. Which is from the mass egalitarianism and nonviolence which is taught to them via the public education system. Which is directly antithetical to having an empire. And so, if this was all an elite plot, it has backfired catastrophically. Instead of Prussian automatons, we have whimsical hippies.
>>536511017I can tell you are hasbara or some kind of christcuck with how much you are obsessed with butt sex and applying it to anything the ancient greeks ever did.
>>536505426Simplest way of viewing it is that public schools created to babysit children after they were no longer allowed in the workplace. You don't want a bunch of young kids on the streets without adult supervision it will inherently lead to crime.
>>536509940I came across this term the other day, don't remember where I saw it, but anyway it's a good description of brainwashed retards like you. I'm sorry you married a public school teacher or became one yourself, shit happens.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_history
>>536511176butt sex Kundalini was ancient wisdom schoolsPlato opened his 3rd eye anus to Kundalini enlightenmentThat kundalini shit makes you gay as fuck anon. It strongly tones the vagus nerve from the anus up through the spine. It makes you easily anally stimulated and obsessed with having disturbingly intense anus orgasms as much as possible
>>536511105Its because of judeo-christian universalism and cosmopolitanism that later also informed both Liberalism and Marxism despite those being secular/atheist. Its not rocket science. But you obviously want to shuffle the deck and obfuscate with your wall of text.
>>536511095As we can see today as hardcore rightwingers, our white race has a frustrating tendency to bow down and submit to external threats. It seems dubious that white people will ever revolt against either the globohomo elites or the nonwhite invaders. Why are whites so meek and nonviolent? Well, I would say the education system. And, if you look at the writings of proponents of mass education, they talked about how the more educated people committed less crime. If you are a lawyer or an engineer, you don't enjoy walking through a London full of knife wielding chavs. You want everyone wearing their suits and talking about diplomacy. However, eliminating the criminal class by transforming them into well educated good goys is also why modern white men do not violently resist the nonwhite invasion or jewish takeover. That is because they have been conditioned to be obedient and nonviolent. This is a multi dimensional problem. It creates problems for the elites because patriotism and serving in the military are both functions of violence, which has been eliminated from the populace. Hence, modern whites are too wishy washy to blow up foreigners. It creates problems for us because it means our people are too pussy to do anything about either the elites or the nonwhites. It creates benefits for the elites because it means the people will never revolt. It creates benefits for us because it means our cities were (before niggers came) "high trust" societies where you could leave your doors unlocked. It creates benefits for the niggers because it is a society of naive, nonviolent, obedient people that are very easy for them to take over.
>>536506973I remember boomers telling me the internet was a fad
>>536511323Like I said. Hasbara or christcuck that want to smear degenearcy onto anything the ancient greeks ever did.And there was no indian mysticism in Platos Greece.
>>536507424>Fingoloid can't understand English.Are you legit retarded, do you not know the difference between Latin" and "grammar"? Also, I ask again, where did I suggest "English" grammar?Latin is a language and grammar is the study of syntax, base level communication and logic, itself. The two are fundamnetally different, you'd know that if you wren't a retard.
>>536511372Why are you trying to frame this as heroic Whites fighting for survival against niggers and jews? Whites committed suicide; jews are filling the vacuum with nogs
>>536511448Plato, shake ass speae etc was a buttsex enjoyer who acquired the daemon via Kundalini spread ass cheeksanal sex demon Portals were open in the rituals made by Jack Parsons (check strange angel and chemical wedding serie/and movie). Search for people channeling 'aliens' and see what they say. We must 'vibrate higher' or 'reach higher conciousness'. Aliens 'abductions' are really demonic oppression (search the connections with the root chakra/anus, and kundalini spirit)
Does anyone find it bizarre there are multiple swedish flags on this thread calling people Christcucks While refusing to state their own position on God
>>536511372>That is because they have been conditioned to be obedient and nonviolentChristianity initially did that. Then the Enlightenment only revived it after Europe had martialized (i.e. slightly de-christianized and paganized) Christianity itself for a while.
The best example of the contradiction of the domestication of the white man is the Ukraine war. The elites want you to both be a feminist, egalitarian, submissive slave, and to turn into a roaring lion on command when they have an external opponent they need you to fight. But the problem is they have already removed the leonine qualities from the populace via mass education, mass media, police, etc. The true "patriots" of the 19th century were the same xenophobic bigots that lynched foreigners and beat women and fags, and in 1789 and 1917 massacred their perceived class enemies, which is the same criminal class which was recruited en masse to serve in the British army and navy, and which cleared the American west of Indians. But that class does not exist anymore, because of the domestication. Because, a city full of violent criminal scum is extremely unpleasant for a banker to walk through, and also volatile enough to revolt if the banker implements an unpopular policy.
>>536511610The third eye is opened through kundalini-anal butt sex activation. This is also called, ritual sodomy. Crowley spoke about this in his books.The pyramid represents the anal triangle and the all seeing eye represents the anus. Sodomy is their mark.Code 33 represents sodomy. 33 looks like two asses next to each other. Thats why there are 33 degrees to "enlightenment" in freemasonry. 33 spine vertebrae. Ritual sodomy opens the third eye (anal gland). Its a kind of MK ultra mind trauma and allows them to go into demonic realms. The all seeing eye represents the asshole and the pyramid represents the anal triangle. Look that up. once they have been ritually sodomised, they have been "illuminated". Crowley talks about this. Sodomy is their mark. That is what the giant obelisk in DC represents, a penis. This stuff is all sexual
>>536506730There's nothing wrong with public education for young kids and teens, it's nearing the end of high school and post secondary that got all fucked up.
>>536511546I am just going to ignore you now.
>>536511534As a white, I and my people are the heroes of our own story. The lioness is the heroine when she kills a baby gazelle, because that will feed her cubs. Yet to the gazelle, the lioness appears as a monster. Morality is always subjective, never forget that.
>>536511568I find memeflags bizarre.
>>536511617Would you say Russians are also under the yolk of oppression, sent as canon fodder into war?
>>536511656That's what they want you to think. At the highest ranks everything about sodomy. The eagles and the vitruvian man are not what you think they mean. In both, they are fucking another eagle/man in the anus. I know this is hard to believe, but this is what the 33 symbolizes. It looks like an anus, so it represents a man fucking another man in the ass. This relates back to the hindu teachings about Kundalini. It is said in the occult that when you fuck another man in the ass, it gives you magical powers. I could provide endless examples of how they are promoting sodomy in today's society.
>>536511675You find memeflags bizarre because you are using a proxy IP address and your finding of a memeflag as "bizarre" is your conspicuous expression of "Duper's Delight"thinking you have fooled the audience with your pretence.I find your overestimation of your prowess as an intelligence operative to be most bizarre.
>>536509378>I saw it happen in Germany Why do the commies always leave that bit out?
>>536511617all idealists, be it stoics, christians, post enlightenment pseudo-christian secular atheists, etc... always effect the same thing, in their fight against instincts eventually they destroy those very instincts that had created the states that allow them their peace in the first place, they never manage to develop at least a kind of respect for the shoulders they stand on but vilify them
>>536511659>When I'm larping as trad huWhite, I ...Sorry anon. Fellow White boomers gave my country (empire?) to niggers. Anons are telling me that in the regions which still have white women, those women have rejected them. My whole life is being underbussed by fellow whites trying to please jews. The white man heroes journey is too hollywood
>>536509478https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/534803733https://archive.org/details/elementsofrheto00whatuofthttps://archive.org/details/the-trivium-the-liberal-arts-of-logic-grammar-and-rhetoric-sister-miriam-josephhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeamyERJVQLDHH0zijOOpqULKD6yU2Uxehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthymemehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS2XmcoMAg4Grammar, logic and rhetoric aren't as distinctly divided as some may think, that's why I prefer to use the term the Trivium instead. Books on critical thinking and informal logic are also good and have elements of rhetoric in them. One example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacyThis is both a fallacy and a rhetorical tactic, the two are often one and the same.
>>536511617>Because, a city full of violent criminal scum is extremely unpleasant for a banker to walk through, and also volatile enough to revolt if the banker implements an unpopular policy.Yet that is what their Cosmopolitanism always breeds.>and in 1789 and 1917 massacred their perceived class enemiesYou yet again ignore that those revolutions were instigated by upper classes themselves.Am I talking to bots? Both the memeflag and this anon strike me as very botty in their behavior.
>>536511785I can assure you I am not nor have I ever used a proxy IP.Why are you using a memeflag though?
>>536511887But wasn't Sweden the perfect place to live if you are a nonviolent, law abiding intellectual, before the niggers came? In the 80s etc. I always hear this from Swedes and Germans. There is an irony here. The same meekness and nonviolence which made pre-nigger sweden, japan etc paradise, is also why the swedes and japanese are incapable of resisting mass migration and jewish takeover. Modern swedes will never guillotine the bankers, they wont even punch a man who banged their wife. That is the domestication which comes from all these systems of social control. They were designed to make the Swedes (or Americans, or British) weak, which they succeeded, and once the Swedes were weak, the Somalis and Syrians conquered without resistance. Meanwhile 1700s wypipo carried daggers, dueled, drank all the time, lynched, hung people, beheaded elites and traitors etc. They were undomesticated. The irony here is that the school system is a domestication program which succeeded too well and now our societies are being conquered by undomesticated peoples.
>>536512087>punch a man who banged their wifeThat's a dumb american move. You have an opportunity to make a friend and get rid of an unfaithful wife but you have an ego outburst. Very jew. Very boomer
>>536512087>Meanwhile 1700s wypipo carried daggersyesterday I was binge reading wikipedia and I stumbled on the page about duels and their history and one thing, one line, left quite a mark on me>With the end of the duel, the dress sword lost its position as an indispensable part of a gentleman's wardrobe, a development described as an "archaeological terminus" by Ewart Oakeshott, concluding the long period during which the sword had been a visible attribute of the free man, beginning as early as three millennia ago with the Bronze Age sword.
>>536510131What you fail to understand is that school doesn't exist to give you what you need. School exists to dumb down and enslave the masses. That's how they get people to become donkeys in the first place, just like Pleasure Island. You got it backwards. Now go back to your Walmart break room. This thread is for those of us who strive toward greatness and liberation, not those who are brainwashed into loving their servitude.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYVZfaV7iVU
>>536512087Sweden was a degenerate cesspit of leaded gasoline brained violent, criminal, pedophilic boomers in the 70s and 80s. And we had a major wave of chileans, kurds and assyrians already in the 70s and 80s. There were ghettos back then too. There have been ghettos in any industrial society on earth since the industrial revolution began.You are tremendously misinformed. You seem to be some dumbass who thinks all violence is good because it means you are undomesticated. Being a violent asshole does not make you free. 1700s wypipo were still ultimately christbrained. They were not free just because they drank and fought a lot and were led on by the merchant bourgeois class to overthrow monarchies.
>>536511978You are using a Proxy IP though.If you weren't you would be able to state plainly if you are an Atheist or not.
>>536512347I am not sure how it happened. I have also read in the middle ages only noblemen were permitted to wear swords inside towns. Recently reading a history of Kentucky the frontier towns had hunters walking around downtown with their rifles. It is a constant impression you get throughout history that white society was far more barbaric and intolerant and violent before the modern times. Probably a lot of 4channers would be lynched if the 1600s whites got their hands on us. They were a rough bunch of bydlo, that's for sure.
>>536511617>A city full of violent criminal scum is extremely unpleasant for a banker to walk throughExcept that same yid banker is fine with violent nigger, spic and muslim scum. They're too dumb for high level rebellion against that kike banker.Banker meant didn't want violent White scum in the inner cities to walk through. That has been mostly accomplished. >>536510203>>536506281It is not prussian schooling as much as it is hindu schooling. That is where they got the idea in early 1800s.Prussian schooling would be more nazi all White high tech. Hindu poo schooling is globalhomo diversity gayness with kikes at top.
>>536512506I am not abrahamic. Thats all I can say because I do not really feel at home with either atheism or paganism entirely. I am stuck in between those.
>>536512559the bottom line is, and one of the most dire signs of our situation and unfortunately the twilight of indo-european tradition on the continent, that free man = armed man; that by itself wouldn't even necessarily mean a randomly violent man, but it indicates that the free man is ultimately someone who takes responsability for his own personal safety(and is legally in his right to do so within comunitarian law)
>>536505426I studied Latin in high school and got a certificate, the "Latinum". This had to be acquired either in school or at university if you wanted to study law or medicine back then. This requirement was later abandoned. Yes, it's a shame that Latin is not mandatory for higher education today. We suffer the consequences.
>>536511105The purpose of the Prussian education system has from its inception in the 19th century been to suppress the Trivium for the bottom 99.5% of the population while teaching it to the top 0.5%, and that's exactly what it has accomplished, gradually, Euclid was abolished in the 50s throughout the West. Actual critical thinking, which is the Trivium, has been replaced by a notion of "being critical of authority" by simply being contrarian. This faux critical thinking is impotent and devoid of any substance. Red Ice has a bunch of stuff about it in their archive.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp7eVJNJuw
>>536512744Would you say Latin represents an ecclesiastical educational framework?
>>536512745I think that violence itself is an emotional state. I think patriotism and racism and nationalism (which all mean the same thing) are just a form of violence. Today we have created the "non-violent white man", who is therefore incapable of being racist. In many cases he is also incapable of having sex with women or eating meat, which are also forms of violence. I think the Ukraine situation is hilarious because the elites find that their good goys are incapable of being violent on command.
>>536512895Its a language that christucks hijacked yes.
>>536510397Holy fuck what an absolute fool. While acknowledging your “mishap” you commit the identical mishap in the same breath? I guess your (((jesuit))) education taught you how to be a first class retard.
>>536512993Well the elites have drones now so they need violent men to fight wars for them less and less now.
>>536513093"Christcucks"Why are you speaking like an automaton?Do you realise what you have just performed is substrate-independent automation of your intellectual faculty in replacing it with a tolkenised response?Do you understand what I mean by that?I happen to be writing a paper on this very phenomenon and the nature of the human soul.Do you believe in the human soul?
>>536513161I was about to say I have truly kicked the WASP nest now but that would be allegorically inaccurate. Wouldn't it?
>>536510884The whole seethe at “left wing israelis” line also gave away this was a jew talking.
>>536513229>Do you realise what you have just performed is substrate-independent automation of your intellectual faculty in replacing it with a tolkenised response?Tokenized. Its spelled tokenized. Reddit spacing midwit.>I happen to be writing a paper on this very phenomenon and the nature of the human soul.X to doubt.>Do you believe in the human soul?Yes. I do. Not just your fuckfaced conception of it. I believe all of nature has a soul. Not just humans.
>>536511482>grammarFuckface, make a point, you're just posting to uphold your pride. It was Latin grammar they studied in the Trivium, sometimes also Greek, I fucking posted two links which you didn't click which say this. If you want a classical education you study Latin. Optionally additionally books on "general grammar". You say it's not Latin per se, yeah it fucking is, it's Latin grammar you need for a classical education. You don't need to learn about adjective order in English, that doesn't do shit for your intellectual development.
>>536513418I'm going to be completely honest with you-I am presently writing that paper. Alex Karp is dyslexic.You speak like a guttersnipe in all honesty. Who are you to suggest others become educated when you speak like a lower form of life?You criticized me earlier for addressing you under two different ips which you were switching between.I said you weren't capable of performing the role of an intelligence operative and now you have just demonstrated QED why not>>536513161You owe me an apology, I didn't make a mistake, they are the same entity ID hopping QED image attached
>>536511534If being convinced to take a pill of poison that you were told was good for you and everyone else is suicide, sure. Whites are guilty of being gullible easily manipulated fools but the suicide is not intentional.
>>536513322I just want you to realize you were trying to talk to OP, but started replying to a different poster with the same flag as if they were the OP and when corrected about it, acknowledged this but then doubled and tripled down on it. It’s almost as bizarre as a meme flag accusing people of using proxies to obfuscate location. There is an absolute reason you are using one, so what is it? Rather conspicuous. On average, this would indicate you are either israeli or indian. But I get the idea that you are some other flavour of shitskin who is embarrassed about their brown skin, hiding behind a meme flag to hopefully be taken more seriously. Ironically, even with a brazilian or mexican flag or something, you’d get more credit than a meme flag.
>>536513613I mean fair enough, the double use of the word “fuckface” in each post is a tell that it is the same guy. You could be right. However, why the meme flag?
>>536512884What is trivium and how to learn the special skills to make it without selling your soul to satan?
>>536514152You are a substrate-independent automaton.I correctly determined both "swedish" flags were one entity. QED in image here: >>536513613You have forfeited your soul in favor of your Master's Voice.
>>536513613>Alex Karp is dyslexic.So you are writing the paper for him? You are in this thread to data mine for him?>You criticized me earlier for addressing you under two different ips which you were switching between.Sure. Go with that. You are still behind a memeflag and reddit spacing though. Why?
>>536514388Read my next post. I acknowledged you were likely correct. The fact he abandoned the thread after you called it out is further proof. Though you still avoid my question? You spent the thread trying to get someone to answer something they were avoiding but now do the same to me.
>>536514273That might just be their national insult you bigot
>>536505426>https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xu5eRDbW7kY (link which doesn't generate click revenue for the creator)doesn't work
>>536514286grammar (Latin), logic, rhetoric>>536506451https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt
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>>536514425I am addressing your mistaken assumption dyslexia is indicative of lower levels of intelligence, that is simply not the case. Notice the evolution of conflict here, as two pendulums swing, they grow closer to one another-This is being demonstrated in real-time here:>>536514273>>536514425We already discussed that you are operating on a proxy IP. Your fascination with my "memeflag" is misdirection.If everyone uses a memeflag your provocation techniques become less effective when you mimic nation states.It probably seemed quite sophisticated 20 years ago, posting search term screenshots in the matching language of your chosen memeflag.
>>536513613Consider the use of the slang term “guttersnipe” which is mostly used by UK, Australia, New Zealand and India. Now combine with with the meme flag purportedly ghost writing for a jew; we have proof this poster is in fact a jeet. Good morning Saar
>>536514849Elaborate avoidance. You don’t use a meme flag unless you want to hide your location. I have identified you. You are Indian.
>>536514853I have already revealed you are the same red-team as the Swedish Flag.Your pendulum over-clocking is demonstrated clearly:>>536514273>>536514425Simultaneously you both narrow in (as one unit) onto the "meme flag"Substrate-Independent AutomatonsIt matters not whether you are silicon or biological. You are an automaton.As for your ghost-writing accusation, I said Alex Karp has dyslexia, this incredible jump of the shark taking place has brought a rare chortle.
>>536514799ty
>>536505426reddit tier thumbnail lookin ass
>>536515213I am not the Swede and I openly agreed with you that I think you are correct that they have ID hopped in this thread. I conceded that to you. They haven’t. However, I am correct that you are an Indian and I fittingly came to this conclusion using classical logic. Jews overwhelmingly outsource to Indians because you are relatively inexpensive and in such a high population, some higher verbal IQ individuals can be found. I didn’t think it was necessary to spoon feed this connection. You may disagree with my method or my chosen evidence, but not the conclusion, since the conclusion is correct.
>>536515427I have expressed clearly, allow me to reiterate.I have already revealed you are the same red-team as the Swedish Flag.Your pendulum over-clocking is demonstrated clearly:>>536514273>>536514425Simultaneously you both narrow in (as one unit) onto the "meme flag"Substrate-Independent AutomatonsIt matters not whether you are silicon or biological. You are an automaton.ENDWhy am I still engaging you might ask? In order to train my own adversarial network on your weaknesses. I jest.
>>536515756> I am not the Swede and I openly agreed with you that I think you are correct that they have ID hopped in this thread. I conceded that to you. They haven’t. However, I am correct that you are an Indian and I fittingly came to this conclusion using classical logic. Jews overwhelmingly outsource to Indians because you are relatively inexpensive and in such a high population, some higher verbal IQ individuals can be found. I didn’t think it was necessary to spoon feed this connection. You may disagree with my method or my chosen evidence, but not the conclusion, since the conclusion is correct.I can post the same thing over again too ranjesh. The difference between us is that my repeated conclusion is correct and yours is false. This once again displays the value of your (((jesuit))) education.
>>536514849>I am addressing your mistaken assumption dyslexia is indicative of lower levels of intelligence, that is simply not the case.I did not even assume that though.>>536515427Me and the other swede are two different people. I can assure you.
>>536514765Thx
>>536505426daily trvke:your issue isn't the education system. your issue is your IQ.
>>536515904My conclusion was validated earlier when you conceded openly:>>536514486>I acknowledged you were likely correctYour words.I was correct. Affirmative. What I am presently correct about - is the over-clocking which we witnessed>>536514273>>536514425In Silicon and Biological Systems a lead sentiment is then taken up by the "hive", this is known in network diagnostics as Over-Clocking - you are entraining the other nodes to replicate a particular sentiment - due to the neural mesh predicative model.both clocked in >>536514273>>536514425to the same sentiment within 3 minutes.That's because you are the same adversarial red-team. It matters not a jot if you are biological or not. The song remains the same.
>>536516001What traits are found coinciding with compulsive lying?Why should Anons trust a demonstrable liar?Image >>536513613Given your Shakespeare image in the OP here is a fine line from King Lyre The Devil is a Gentleman.You will have to sharpen your skill-set considerably before attempting to emulate the Father of Lies
>>536515756>meme flag>use of “guttersnipe”>jesuit education>writing academic paperAll signs lead to Mumbai
>>536516363No lie has been demonstrated on my part.
>>536516379You are revealing you are on the same red-team as the Swedish flag.You are now forced to prove your status as theSubstrate-Independent Automaton
>>536516586I have already proved your status as an Indian. I also note you haven’t even denied being Indian.
>>536516519Even your own red-team member admitted it:>>536514273Now here is the rub.Why should one expect honour from a dishonourable person?
>>536516664You point out the Swedish Flag is in fact IP hopping using multiple IDs>>536514273Yet you do not attack them outright as you are doing with me. This is because you are exposed as the same red-team. You gave a hint of plausibility to your independence (not-team-exercise) but you retracted it in a state of panic.
>>536505579I'd go a step further and state that public school is designed to blunt geniuses and demoralise the brilliant.It's not supposed to educate you for anything, or even put you in a social hierarchy amongst peers.It's about subduing you, beating you into shape, and delaying your personal development as much as possible.An 18-year old shouldn't be asking what he wants to do with his life. He should already know that by the age of 8. How? By then you really love doing one thing or another.Racing drivers don't start wanting to drive when they're 17, no they start wanting to drive when they're 4. They're pursuing their passion.Public school comes in and says "no, you can't devote 6 hours of every working day to your passion, you have to obey a stranger who doesn't know shit and learn these irrelevancies for tests which demonstrate you're a good obedient little worker."Learning should always follow your own interests.Schools make you create interests based on the learning they give you.They put the cart in front of the horse. No fucking wonder so many people fail at life and don't know what they want to do.
>>536516674I told you that I agreed the two swedes may be id hopping. Equating that with me admitting to your assertion I am the same as them or that it is them admitting being the same entity is beyond retarded.
>>536514273I said it first. The other anon just said it once afterwards. It proves nothing and you are just desperate to shoot this thread down because. It seems coordinated. >>536516674>Why should one expect honour from a dishonourable person?You are dishonorable. And can still not spell correctly it seems.
>>536505426I think people that refuse to use AI will be much more intelligent than those who do use it. They may not do any big effort to learn, but not having their mind unused will be a big plus.
>>536516762Correct. Public school exterminates confidence and ambition.
>>536516761I don’t attack them outright because I wasn’t at any point having a discussion with them. I was at first flabbergasted by your tripling down on an error, then I seen your point. Now I think the point is more dubious since everything else your saying is so incorrect and devoid of logic, I need to reexamine my concession of your previous assertion.
>>536505426Public school is a daycare first and foremost, and a educational institution second. Its by design that they are dumbing down everyone, individual critical thought is antithesis to the globohomo society they're crafting.
>>536516861I have never had any intention of shooting the thread down. Your posts and premise has been enjoyable and interesting. I was fascinated with the behaviour of this Indian and may or may not have erroneously conceded a point to him based on the use of the same word, which is admittedly much flimsier evidence than what I have presented for the meme flag being Indian.
>>536505426>expecting a government to properly educate its own tax cattleprivate school kids still get classical education, but sending your kid to public school has gotten exponentially more retarded as state power has grown and centralized. turns out it's not a good bargain for the power structure to educate the serfs about the plan for their enslavement.
>>536506486cope and SEETHE *rgie scum
https://archive.org/details/waterfield-theology-of-arithmetic-en-1988https://annas-archive.gl/md5/1b3b4ea6dfe7175fc145248e6bac2a8ehttps://annas-archive.gl/md5/3ea39dede2073699b815caaaed0014c1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almagesthttps://archive.org/details/ptolemystetrabib00ptolhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrabiblos
>>536517040This too
>>536508032Ask me how I know you don't work and live with your mom.
>>536517081Well thanks. And I liked your posts too. And the reddit spacer indeed sure seemed to flip out especially once you suggested he was indian.
is our problem with public education, the concept or implementation?
>>536516861“Dishonourable” is correct British English that Indians (and Canadians) use. More evidence. The poster would have zero reason to hide a Canadian, UK or Ausdie flag. The conclusion follows neatly.
>>536509763John Gatto said that literacy rates before public school in America were 95%.
>>536505426Then pay a boarding school you fucking commie scum.Holy shit, poor fags only complain all day.If you want good education you must pay for it, and I don’t mean going to an Ivy League school, you don’t even need that.Just look for good privates school in your surroundings, even in this shithole of a country there are plenty of top tier schools.But if you want your kid to be gay and retarded, sure go public
>>536505426Yo didn’t this mf’er not speak Latin snd use the English version of plutarch and Plautus for inspiration?
>>536507025whats the point in learning latin if you are not gonna speak it. also geometry? i know my shapes, what is there to study?
>>536510397You talk like a nigger or burnout hippie trying to sound like an academic.
>>536518271You speak like a piece of property.
>>536518251Latin because its grammar is superior and gives you a thorough understanding of grammar. Euclid because it's absolutely nothing like the shit called geometry in school. Forget everything you learned in school, you learned jack shit in school.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/535566868/#535567644https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/535566868/#535567481
>>536505579> Public school is for placing you into a social hierarchy for future employment.The goal isn’t education or learning stuff. It is purely to certify your social standing. That’s why females are so good at it.Holy shit, this is so succinctly well said, also why public school is a nightmare for people whom have slightly autistic characteristics or worse
>>536518467Says the jeet speaking the language of his colonizers while being too ashamed to represent his own nation.
>>536518772It’s correct, but not well said. “Not for education or learning stuff” is redundant, should have just left it at that”education”. Also, as someone else pointed out,; the use of female/male instead of man/woman was a dubious choice.
>>536505426>link which doesn't generate click revenue for the creatorDon't be a fucking homo trying to please wrongdoers.
Does The Secret Teachings Of All Ages by Manly P. Hall talk about geometry or Euclid?>The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall discusses both geometry and Euclid extensively, specifically through the lens of sacred geometry and Pythagorean philosophy.>Hall approaches these concepts from an esoteric and symbolic standpoint rather than a purely mathematical one. Key areas where they appear include:>* Pythagorean Mathematics: The introduction and early chapters highlight Pythagoras's view that mathematics—particularly arithmetic, music, astronomy, and geometry—were the most sacred of all sciences.>* The Tetraktys: Hall covers the Pythagorean concept of the Tetraktys (the triangle of dots summing to 10), where numbers are directly linked to geometric dimensions: 1 is a point, 2 is a line, 3 is a surface, and 4 is a solid.>* Euclid's Elements: Euclid's geometric principles are discussed in the context of ancient architectural mysteries and the symbolic meaning of shapes. Hall views geometric forms as keys to understanding the hidden, divine architecture of the universe.https://archive.org/details/TheSecretTeachingsOfAllAgesManlyHall
>>536505579abuhbubububuhubuhBUBUUHUHBUUHBUHBUHBHUBHUBBUHBUHb
>>536518546If a point has no dimensions by dfinition how can it be assigned to a number?
>>536518467Why not just remove the flag now, ACPI third rate Jnana-Deepa Vidyapeeth shill. You’ve been found out.
>>536519753Or a number assigned to it to say it better?
>>536518794You realise by changing ID to issue a side swipe, which I returned in kind, then to rush in to snipe from your original id - in order to create an illusion of consensus - is the type of thing which worked close to twenty years ago but looks objectively ridiculous nowadays.>>536519828You couldn't even leave it to just one reply. Here you are coming back once again because I didn't respond to you.
Based on the paper the jeet said he is writing, this is likely him.
>>536519981Again, your conclusions are false. My conclusion, which you have not even denied, is correct.
>>536518546>honest response on this board in current yearwtf, thank you i'll check everything out
dont go around spreading this infoi found out about this recently and i plan on doing it with my kidall the shit you guys talk about on here gets percolated out to normies. i do not want the classical education school i want to send my kid to filled with le epic racist beaners and other dumbasses that will clog up the application systemdo not fuck this up for me!!!!!!!!!!it took forever to unfuck the useless hillbilly education i got because i got sent to the worst public school in my entire statebeing around lazy retarded fat bitch teachers is LIFE RUINING
take any object and find a rope that is at least 12 times as long as that object, plus some more to account for knot tying.tie 12 knots along the length of the rope, the distance between the knots being spaced out by the object from the beginning.now make a triangle with the rope so that one side has 3 knots, one side has 4 knots, and one side has 5 knots.the triangle formed cannot be any other triangle than a 'right triangle'a right triangle has a guaranteed corner with an angle of 90 degreesnow you can create a tool that holds that 90 degree angle with the rope triangle as your reference>b-but entropy and mechanical engineering and materials science means there is a ±0.005 degree error!close enough
>>536519638I apologize for shitting up your quality high-effort thread by arguing with this jeet. Good work. I just can’t help undermine jeets at every opportunity, especially when these subhumans attempt to blend in.
>>536519638Manly Hall is a bit of a midwit though. He’s a 33rd degree freemason speaking shizobabble bullshit from what I could tell when a schizo commie former acquaintance tried to get me to listen to his lectures, that is all I took from it.
>>536506618>Familia RomanaThat's a nice suggestion. and the Roman approach has been the standard in schools for a long time.However .... over the last 2,000 years the #1 reason to know Latin was not to read Cicero or even Virgil, but to read the Mind of the Catholic Church and to follow and meditate on its Liturgy. (i.e. and therefore also its entire Dialectical philosophy). That Huge Truth has been so repressed for such a long time that it's almost completely unknown even to those lucky enough to get to study Latin in school using the method of little stories about Ancient Rome and passages from Virgil. There could have been no better way to blot a 2,000-year centrepiece of European cultural and spiritual history than suppressing Church Latin.https://www.divinumofficium.com/
>>536519981you are an autistic loser scoping every inch of this thread for what exactly? 27 posts you have made lmao just log off nigga and you sound retarded
>>536505426>public school do nothing>crt, trans-gay awareness, glorification of chimpout niggers, parroting of media propaganda, learn importance of having safe spaces, taught to believe biological males should compete against females , made to believe loving your country is racism
If I had a kid I would only be interested in him learning a music instrument, math, and a second and third language
>>536519981Kys jewfag
>>536522939It’s an Indian
The biggest shift in education was branding homeschooling as something broke rednecks did by trying to takeover their child's entire education and not something the ultra rich did by hiring the best possible tutors for their child. Pretty much every single historical figure was homeschooled and often times their tutors were other historical figures as well.
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>>536523291That is an important piece, but I’d argue the biggest shift was desegregation and mass immigration fuelling the need to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
>>536508021I'm sure such pursuits have made brazil into a beacon of intellectualism
>>536505579It was literally made to train kids for factory workThat's why they even have the bell sound between classes
>>536523517nope, dumbing down through school started long before that in the 19th century and also in western countries that were monoracial until recently, shill>>536524002No, it's not to train kids for factory work, it's to dumb them down so that then they will be suitable as factory fodder, there's a difference. It's more like Pleasure Island in Pinocchio. They don't go in as donkeys and are taught how to work the salt mines. They go in as children with unlimited potential, are turned into donkeys, who are then fit to be sent to the salt mines. The actual training for work in the salt mines takes a week and happens in the salt mines. That donkey is you and you don't even know it because the matrix is so thick. "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYVZfaV7iVUhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
