why didn’t you join long ago? whatever that reason is that’s my suggestion probably
>>536539848Because the British were part of it.
Ireland has no military at all and literally has treaties where the UK provides for their defense lmao. Proud Irishmen. Their economy is based on money laundering and (((tax haven))) shit too. Trump should tariff the shit out of them for being global parasites.
>>536539903sounds like a good reason
>>536539725Hope you like niggers fucking your girls...
>>536539920>the UK provides for their defenseDefense from who?
>>536539903Clearly not enough Pallyniggers for you tatoniggers is there. God there is not a people I hate more than the Oirish. Much like the jeets, we made a grave mistake not exterminating the whole lot of you.
>>536539725Yes and bomb Britain.
>>536540079Not the UK lmao. You're parasites and Trump should punish it hard.
>>536539971Ireland is becoming like Britain nowadays but most refuse to join NATO which is bizarre to me because they've no problem supporting NATO when it comes to Russia.
>>536540165>weWho is we?
>>536539725looks like a rusted out piece of shit... >prop plane in 2026
I donated money to the IRA. It was like 15 dollars but I love the Irish people. Super nice and funny people. Great girls. Please come to Norway to work/study and convince us to arrange a new defense agreement with explosive fertilisers
>>536539725if they want to get dragged into some shitty war
>>536540297>prop plane in 2026It's over
>>536539725What would they contribute? Fuck all but a couple thousand troops. And then they'd just put themselves in harms way, being the weakest link if NATO went to war. And they'd be dragged into wars that isn't any of their business and contribute basically nothing to itThe juice isn't worth the squeeze for Ireland or NATO. It is actually more strategic for Ireland to keep it's neutrality
>>536539725Pictured:Literally 1:17th of Irelands fixed with Air Force. Also its apex attack aircraft, of which it has 3.
>>536540244Money is power. Follow the money trail.
>>536539725>I used to bullseye milk cows in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.It's a brave new world of slaughtering civilians and calling it "war". You'll do great things.
>>536540420fixed wing ffs. thats what I get for phone postin.
>>536540447Unfortunately.
>>536540415>the weakest link if NATO went to warIreland is literally one of the most strategic places against Russia. That's why NATO defends it even without membership. The Russians are constantly trying to probe the area and know it's strategic problem for NATO because Ireland isn't part of it. Every member matters so you're talking shit.
>>536539903That technically means NATO invaded Ireland
>>536539725who are you worried about invading you? iceland?
>>536540797A military upgrade so that we can get a part of Russia when the time comes.
>>536539725We're supposed to be nuetral but the current government is trying its hardest to do away with that. NATOs gay and jewish no thank you
>>536539725Sure. Why not? What's one more militarily useless country for the US to protect?
>>536540987That's why nobody will remember your name.
>>536541078>for the US to protect?
>>536541078Cuba was pretty useless until they put all those missiles there
>>536541102Thats a pretty cringe post
>>536541137Let's not pretend like NATO isn't a giant scheme where all of Europe outsources its national defense to the US. In case you're not old enough to remember, we went through this whole thing called the Cold War where Europe couldn't defend itself from the Soviets so we had to put American civilization at peril to defend you guys. And Europeans too that opportunity to not pay their fair share and instead fund a welfare state which made its people soft.>>536541156I'm actually not shocked that a European doesn't understand American history.
>>536541156Now look at Cuba. That could be us. Running the country as a military dictatorship and controlling all the economy.
>>536539903Anglos are worse than jews.
>>536541309I know your type and your useless drivel. Not worth the time of day.
>>536541292Ok peacenov.
>>536541394The aristocracy and ulster scots maybe but I've no quarrel with the British. It's all in the past.
>>536541417My type? The type who is right and put you in your place? Even your meme is retarded. Britain and France both have substantial nuclear stockpiles. And they've had them since the 50's.
>>536540639You just made my point, retardYou said it yourself>That's why NATO defends it even without membershipAll dropping neutrality would do is invite an invasion> Every member matters so you're talking shitYou're talking shitMembers matter to varying degrees depending on geopolitical strategy and cost. If a power was to attack NATO, they'd invade ireland and they'd have a strong footing within a couple of days. Ireland would become a launching platform for assault on western Europe and the first frontline. And the irish people would be brutalised as a result even after NATO gets there and responds. The Brits and the French would be the first ones to land as a response and join up with the Irish Defence Force and every Irish man and woman would have to be turned into canon fodderThis would happen regardless of membership or not. But more likely to with membership, And with membership, Ireland would be required to fight NATO's wars and bring it into more harms way. If Ireland actually had an impressive military for it's weight, it wouldn't be so bad. But it doesn't. 10k strong at best, and the rest would have to be civilian guerilla styled armies. There is zero benefit for Ireland joining NATO
>>536541309You asked why anyone would care about ireland, its a stategic island if you wanted to attack Europe kind of like cuba. You guys didnt want a communist backed government within missiles reach which is why it was an issue
>>536541548>The type who is rightStfu.The only threat to America is the other NATO members. I'd even argue that NATO members excluding America could wipe out America. Know your place before you get all uppity.
>>536539725you want nothing to do with the Nigger And Tranny Organization.
>>536541630>All dropping neutrality would do is invite an invasionHow?? Make it make sense?>If a power was to attack NATO, they'd invade ireland and they'd have a strong footing within a couple of days.Lmao just stop. Russia can't even take Ukraine and they're literally at their border. Be realistic here.>There is zero benefit for Ireland joining NATOSomething only a pacifist would say.
>>536541795What's NATO got to do with domestic policies?
>>536539725>Should Ireland join NATO?on the surface, no.there's little reason for it.behind closed doors there should be some mutual benefit agreements, like using the shared border to circumvent eu or uk legislation where there is common benefit.ireland is a possible avenue for uk adversaries to drive a wedge, so there needs to be some cooperation to locate and strategically exploit.
>>536539725No.The way things are looking, its going to be the U.S. and Israel against NATO, at least that's what it looks like to me.So, No. Remain Neutral.IF anyone should survive, I want the Irish to survive, and I'm 100% Balkan. so there.Whatever keeps the White Race surviving.
>>536542439The world has changed and so has Ireland. We are already gone full globo homo so why exclude the most important part, which is the military? The military has potential for Ireland to change in the right direction. We could be getting a part of Russia.
>>536542441>The way things are looking, its going to be the U.S. and Israel against NATOHow did you even come to this conclusion?
>>536540244NATO is dead, perhaps EU will boost and elevate the defense initiative.
>>536541988>How?? Make it make sense?Because now they would be a NATO member. How retarded can you be? Neutrality is a layer of diplomatic deterrence and NATO is an unofficial physical deterrence behind the neutrality. If you are now allied with NATO, then you have 32 states that can now drag Ireland into war, and Ireland will be one of if not the first to suffer the consiquences even though they wouldn't had started it. You are braindead. Make THAT make sense, idiot>Lmao just stop. Russia can't even take Ukraine and they're literally at their border. Be realistic hereUkraine and Ireland are drastically different scenarios, and we are not even talking about russia specifically. It could be russia. It could be anyone NATO wars with. Ireland is surrounded by sea. That would be a strategic advantage for an invader considering Ireland has next to fuck all to repel such an invasion. They'd lock the west coast down within a matter of days before anyone could respond, except for the Irish army which would not be sufficient enough. Ukraine had a much larger military and they initially didn't respond well, they were not prepared. It is these first days that would determine if the invader would succeed in subduing Ireland. They'd have the advantage initially. NATO would antagonise, Ireland would pay the price>Something only a pacifist would sayThat's something only an idiot would say
>>536542672trump has threatened to take the us out of nato.should that happen nato would pretty much become the european army (+ canada and uk).if that happens that would be the time for the eu to rally all of europe under a single military umbrella, if that were ever possible.at the moment france and germany really don't seem to be able to make up their mind on what direction they want to go in.alternately, we wait out trumps clock and take things from there.
>>536542849If Ireland is a NATO member then that means Russia can't probe the airspace which they were doing because of neutrality. You say war like it's a bad thing. Ireland needs end the faggotry neutrality and start looking outwards. Only leftists and browns are afraid to fight.So you're literally saying Ireland is easy to invade because it's neutrality but somehow want to remain neutral?Ukraine did respond well. They responded well because of NATO support. Russia still can't gain ground. If Ukraine had of listened to people like yourself they would have been occupied by Russia.
>>536543116>trump has threatenedMy advice to you is don't take anything trump says seriously. Are you honestly dumb enough to think that the military and NATO would allow a celebrity tv show run military operations?>the moment france and germany really don't seem to be able to make up their mind on what direction they want to go in. They are arming for war. Germany is upping their military production.
>>536543314>So you're literally saying Ireland is easy to invade because it's neutralityNoBecause it's lack of military. NATO won't post troops in Ireland until Ireland is attacked>Ukraine did respond wellRead nigger. Key word: InitiallyThe first few days. Which I've said would be crucial in such a scenario. You have sub-human reading comprehension
Ireland doesn't need to join NATO they are protected by us as a vassal state.
>>536539725Why join the losing side?
>>536543619>NATO won't post troops in Ireland until Ireland is attackedThey will expand the military and provide weapons. Irish troops will BE the NATO troops
>>536540165You're a jewish pedo in the Philippines diddling slope kids.
>>536543838Yes but you need men to use that equipment. 10k or even 15k strong isn't enough to repel something like a Russian sea invasion. And being in NATO, you've just invited them onto Ireland's shores should NATO or BRICS start a war. It isn't going to go how you think it would go
>>536542721it involves the US leaving NATO so the U.S. can become Israel's puppet to attack Turkey with.
>>536544054>And being in NATO, you've just invited them onto Ireland's shoresNo, the opposite. Russia won't fuck around with NATO but NATO fucks around with them. NATO keeps expanding. Soon Armenia and Georgia will join. There has never been a better time to join. All I can say is Ireland should join so that they can get a piece of Russia when the times right for craving up Russia. Ireland could them invest in oil/resource companies.
What if we really are going to try to take back Constantinople?
>>536539903You Celts are so pathetic honestly. Would you just listen to how stupid that argument is? This is why your so called "nationalist" groups love being replaced by foreigners, because the English are racists. Get a fucking grip mate.
>>536544236Make no mistake about it. Israel is America's puppet. Israel isn't the one calling the shots. No matter how much propaganda you watch.Israel fights for America. Obviously their own interests come into play too.
>>536539725Can you afford to piss away 5% of your fabled geedeepee on defence spending? The answer is probably no. Besides no one wants to invade Ireland
>>536544339I take this back actually. The argument still stands, I just don't think this guy was saying it as if it's what he believes.
>>536539848Because they want to be LE NEUTRAL and have zero armed forces to speak of.
>>536544388see>>536544296
>>536544288>creating fantasies>i'm gonna become a big fat oil cat!You're deluded, Michéal
>>536544391That may be true for now but NATO will invade Russia in the coming years. Then the profits will roll in.
>>536544483You can call me a dreamer but at least I'm not a stagnant neutrality fag that stands with the weak and leftists. I stand with the strong. I'm joining the winning side.
Before I go i want to drop this truth bomb.Israeli and Muslims have killed many Irish peacekeeping troopsover the years for just peace keeping. This wouldn't have happened if Ireland was in NATO.
>>536544594>you can call me a dreamerI call you a carried away bollocksYou sound exactly like how I think FG politicians think like in private. A sycophantic little suck up careerist leech who'd drag the whole country to hell if they thought they'd profit off of it
>>536543488checked hhnot even trump knows his next move in the 8d tic-tac-toe game he's playingthere's an equal chance he wants nato to become a replacement for useucom, which may already be happening behind the scenes with 5 eyes agreements etc, but it would require a level of commitment that mostly depleted with tarrifs and threatening greenland and canada.france and germany cannot decide on whether they are ride-or-die allies or in competition. iirc france was blocking the uk's role in eu defence spending eligibility that germany was pushing for, because obviously france wants those contracts for themselves, so who knows.to get back to the point, ireland is not at threat from invasion, except from migrants.i don't know the rules on what the eu permits, but with irelands status as a tax haven, perhaps a mercenary force would be more applicable to sell defence services to ukraine or wherever, since nato would be significantly more restrictive.
>>536539725yeah, I think they're ready
>>536539725>Should Ireland join NATO?there is no "nato"....what is there to join anymore?nato is literally and actually *over*it killed itself, and rolled over into an unmarked grave in ukraine, never to be seen again
>>536545096>this fucker againYou're late to the party
>>536545096Agreed. When I was in London I saw lovely ladies in mini skirts riding bicycles around showing the entire world their panties
>>536545096Best we can offer you is Ndebwe from Nigeria. She's got that accent you like after all
>>536540705>That technically means NATO invaded IrelandWhen?
>>536539725we already have enough libtards in nato, thanks
Ireland joining Nato is a retarded thing. They do well enough as being a neutral territory so when the UN tells sends them to go help some shithole out they know that it won't have american written all over it. Plus the reason why Ireland hasn't joined NATO originally was because UK still has North Ireland.Honest to god, what sort of Irishman would want to join Nato? I thought they hated US shit, NATO inserts that shit directly into the host countries veins.
>>536545506Exactly. You have your head screwed on correctly. They are practically under NATO protection but don't have any of the obligations so they don't have to become golems for kikes and amerifatts, fighting their wars on their whim, beck and callOP is a retard
>>536539725.Come back after you turn Fine Gael, and Fianna Fail straighten things out by actually not siding with LGBTQIA policies, while Independent Ireland joins ESN instead of lefty EU blocs, and RE/ALDE.Also come back after you Far Rightify stuff there, and constantly elect Far Right White people.Then maybe you, and I can talk.
>>536544594.based?
>>536539903>Because the British were part of it.
>>536539725clown
>>536539725>rocket pods on a turbopropnot without its charm if we're being totally honest
