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Post pictures of yout country to make him less angry.
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>>536541709
>German humour
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Do I understand things correctly in that people like this followed an ideology that can be described as "Blood and Iron" but the Nazi's ideology was an evolution of this into "Blood and Soil"?
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>>536541709
>all those medals
>never seen the whites of the enemies eyes
fatty
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>>536542665
This guy is later. You missed the gab.
"Blood and iron" is Bismarck. Mantra is we will unify Germany with blood and iron. So this is more 1860-1870.
I think this cames more from the 1848 revolution of republicans and students which fits the nowerday German flag black-red-gold (from bad time with blood to golden times)

I think the prussians adopted it. 1848 was more the vipe of "we are sick of all the small kingdoms and royals anyway. we want a republic"
Blood and iron vipe is from Bismarck a total rolalyst "we are the biggest Kingdom in Germany and the Prussian King will be Kaiser over all of Germany". Inner unification with outside wars.

"Blood and soil" is Nazi and this saying comes from the English hunger blockade when millions died. This were the years 1916-1920 with huge starvation. Hitler started in 1919/20 or something. Seeing what happend and undefeated in WW1 but lost anyways because of sortage, revolution of commies.
The doctrine was as many soil as a state to be independed of imports via sea that can be interrupted by British Navy. This started in huge infrastructure and land winning projects movement in the 20´s and escaleted with first war and annextion victories
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>>536541709
this guy has the most boring war memoir i have ever read
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>>536544275
Thank you for the response. It's good to hear about this topic from a German. So basically, Bismark's "Blood and Iron" wasn't so much racial. It was about the blood shed by soldiers? Iron is their tools of war. In other words, what Clausewitz meant by "war is politics using other tools."

The Nazi slogan's "blood" is about race. But "soil" is not "Lebensraum" (ie- expansionism). Instead, it has to do with self-sufficiency due to famines. "Soil" as in farming the land, control of your own ability to transport logistics, etc?
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Mein kameraden, we all do it in the end.
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R E C O N Q U E R
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Yes 1860-1870 was total not racial. And Bismarck wasn´t. He was total anti colonies. What Wilhelm 2 was who fired him.
The German State at this moment was after the Napoleon wars. It was before the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation. For me the best System. With the fighting of Napoleon and under occupation a huge general German patriotism happend. Germanic in some kind but different independend states. It was more like NATO today.
The prussians even had the Problem with the language because Germans from differend states couldnt understand each other. So they picked some dialect which is now official German.
What the Prussians did as most powerfull German State was unify Germany as it was before but with central control. The title Kaiser was never been a birth right before in Germany. Independed German Kings voted a King to be Kaiser.
And "blood and iron" this independend small states with different culture, dialect together but this was central planning of the Prussian state.

1848 movement was more like "rich peoples" movement and universities. More like the founding fathers Tier group. They came together and said listen we are all Germans you come from a town which is catholic ruled, you are a state which king is also king of spain. you have a russian Earl, your king is also king of England and this other States,... What a mess fucck all the Kings be all German Republic"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieksanderkoog
In the 20s-30s and beginning of 3rd Reich it was this movement.
But later it became Lebensraum. And this is simple mathematics. If you have Millions of people a 1km2 wont make the different to do the doctrine.
And you see this thinking today. With the Iran war. Getting more Oil on your soil with much money or invate some weak for less money.
I think also Lebensraum started and developed later. 1939 was against Polish agression, ...
I think Lebensraum developed during the war and the wins.
WW2 wasnt a attack war by Germany
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hey again



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