Is this true, /pol/?
>>536548762No./threadoptions field
>>536548762 (OP)Yes./threadoptions field
Without modern-day definitions of what those political positions were about its useless. "left and right" can completely reverse over time
he supported them when he was young, like most young people do, but by the time he crowned himself Emperor at 35 they had fallen, he had figured out they were useful idiots, and he literally began dismantling their government. bad thread anon
>>536548762>all the great men of historythat's a short list.Karim must have rode the short bus.
>>536548979He left most things that Jacobins fought for though.
>>536548762Dumb takeTop two were whatever they needed to be to achieve the powerful positions they wanted.Washington was a member of the elite of his time, and Lenin was an ideologue who was good at public speaking and lived in a society on the verge of massive change.
>>536549458tldr. Napoleon and Ceasar were opportunists, Washington was a conservative by the end of his life as the window shifted, and Lenin was left-wing.
Caesar was a turbo-elitist like every other Roman aristocrat, supporting the people was a means to an end. Same with Napoleon, who if you recall literally reinstated the monarchy. The Founding Fathers were either all or nearly all landowning gentry whose idea of "democracy" meant letting the 6% of the population who also fit that bill vote for the House - which shared power with a Senate and Presidency that were not directly elected at all. Lenin was the closest one to actually supporting the rule of the people as such, but of course in practice the Soviet Union was run by an authoritarian bureaucracy which itself was run by the diktat of the Politburo, which ITSELF was under the thumb of the General Secretary
All of these men would be alt-right by modern leftist standards
>>536548762>these stone cold killers were just like us blue haired trannies
>>536548762Seems like the commonality was that the "great men" were part of rebellions against their respective authorities at the time.
>>536549630Well yeah, being a conservative status quo revolutionary is kind of hard.I guess Franco kind of achieved that, but he is the only such man in history. It also all came crashing down relatively quickly
>>536548762Of course not. Those four were not "all the great men of History". Simple as.And you can argue that Caesar, Napoleon and Washington weren't left-wingers in the modern Marxist sense.
>>536548762None of those were great man, maybe Washington.Greatest Roman Emperor was Hadrian. Greatest European Royal was picrel.Lenin was a literal nigger puppet, fuck him, marxists are all mentally ill.
>>536549717Marxism is far left however. At least modern marxism is.
>>536549763Who is this ugly wigger
>>536548762Fucking plebes with "left right" shit. How am I stuck on this rock with so many butt fucking retarts.
>>536548762>nigger trying to sneak Lenin in thereGoofiet goy
>>536548762>Lenin>great manI don't think you understand what the laughter means. Fucking commies.
>>536549815The Wigger of Vienna
>>536549763Lenin was not a Marxist, he was a Leninist. He was inspired by Marxism, but Marx was also inspired by Adam Smith and Hegel.Lenin couldn't be a pure Marxist, because Marx was very much a western supremacist. He said that Russians are uncivilized and not real Slavs but Mongols which is extremely racist and about the most evil statement one man can make
>>536548762All of them were extremely racist Lmao
>>536549879He belongs. Arguably had greater impact than all of the above combined.
>>536548762>Here's 4 cherry picked examples>All of them would still laugh/cringe at the sight of a modern leftistCommies are so fucking dumb it's unreal.
>>536548762We are at the point where leftists are claiming George Washington was left wing, but no sitting congressmen are leftists.
>>536548762George Washington was against political parties existing at all. He was in fact the only non party affiliated president.
>>536548762Gives me drain bramage
well... they lived in a white world
>>536548762>Is this true, /pol/?100% fact, yesAbout half the greatest left-wingers in history bought and sold human beings as slaves
>>536548762>all great men in history>only names 4
>>536548762That's true. Hitler and Mussolini were both nationalist socialists. Churchill was a conservative capitalist. Left-wing White nationalism is the future.
>>536552133>MussoliniHe was a Fascist not a Natsoc.
>>536552198Fascist just means "agree with my politics or I kill you".It's not an economic model.
>Napoleon was a Jacobinwhat is this retard smoking? He absolutely was not a Jacobin, never believed in republicanism and established a dictatorship the second he was able to. >George Washington was a Uniparty RepublicanWashington didn't believe in a party system, he did support a republic, but a republic with a severely limited form of suffrage so that only white, male property owners could vote. He wasn't remotely "left wing". >Julius CaesarI don't think you realize just how "right wing" the Roman Republic was, non-citizens couldn't vote, You have to be an Italian, you couldn't be a slave, you had to be a man, etc women were basically property of their husbands in those times, in no way was Caesar left wing by any standard. At most you could say pinky promised to stop replacing the low class Italians with foreign slaves. But if someone tried to implement that policy today in America (as Trump once pretended he would) you'd call him Nazi Mecha Hitler.
>>536548762>Lenin>Great manStalin made him his bitch.
>>536549815Stfu kike/golem. This was the only man to actually march towards mudslimes by himself and dying honorable on the battlefield. While your gay slav ancestors were being sell to mudslimes.>>536549906>commie>not marxismfuck your gay variant idiotologies, faggot. lennism is just communism with some favor, so a variant of marxism, just like christcuckery has thousands of sects, marxist today has hundreds of different dementia inducing ideologies.
>>536552518wat?Lenin was paralyzed by a jewish antifa woman, and then died from complication later. Stalin just took over after Lenin died. You're thinking of Trotsky.
>>536548762Napoleon and Lenin were not great men in history. If the government you create can even last the the length of a single human life span then it was shit
>>536548762It prooves that to overthrow abd replace a regime you can use plebs
>>536548762>Caesar was a left-wingerHe was actually a religious leader megafaggot. Also a general.If a left-winger did what Caesar did, you would be lynched for calling him leftist.
>>536548762How the fuck is ceasar or george Washington left wing what the fuck theyre literally both populists. How the fuck is lenin on the list. How the fuck are they going to act like napoleon was a paoitive thing for them.Bro the left is RETARDED. Not even worth talking to. The entirety of their beliefs are founded on falsehoods.White lives matterBan the democratic party
>>536554410That is literally bipartisan.
>>536553267>Expecting leftoids to know historical facts that don’t tell the sucking grifter dick is their job.The mistake is yours anon.
>>536548762wow it's almost like power hungry men* use whatever ideology gets a bunch of people to support them and it just so happens to be that populist ideologies that pander to plebs are almost always that ideology*Washington does not at all belong with these men because he was a man in the mold of Cincinatus and did not crave power, but also was certainly not a leftist. He only supported a strong central government relative to the articles of confederation. The American federal system was still significantly more decentralized than every single European state with the exception of Switzerland and the Holy Roman Empire, if you can call that a state.
>>536548762and Hitler was a socialist you stupid chuds >:)
>>536554845And thats a good thing, only real socialism of that era, nigger hitler paid for vacations
Unironically Julius Caesar was the OG fascist.and George Washington is a literally who by the rest of the world,
>>536549906> which is extremely racist and about the most evil statement one man can makeUndeniable proof the russians are enormous, flagrant faggots.But i guess letting jews exterminate any uppity russians for 70 years will have that effect on the gene pool
>>536548762Where's President Reagan and President Trump?
>>536548979i'll just steal this meme