The verses states “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."I fail to see how an all-loving and moral God would ever command something evil and immoral such as this.I would come to expect that a perfectly moral and all-loving God would say "I hate slavery" and "Thou shall not own other people as property", but yet, God instructed that slavery was ok for IsraelitesTime for the Christian Olympic level mental gymnastics, to try and bullshit you. Ranging from it’s not slavery slavery it’s just slavery, to let’s whitewash slavery to make it not a big deal, and every batshit take in-between.If this post blows up enough you’ll probably be graced with the you can only truly understand it if you’ve got the holy sprit types too.And just think all of this because the Bible punts on slavery, like it’s a first down with plenty of time on the clock. Christians attributing their god as being always right, the objective moral center of morality, and never changing. And people picking and choosing which parts of this book apply and aren’t honest enough to admit it.If you want to know something that’s really wild. If you really think about it and all the attributes Christians give their god and put it all together. it means if it was condoned back then, it’s condoned today, and will be condoned all the way and even after the death of the universe. So you know let that sink in.
>giving a fuck about slaveswhat a faggot. my concern is my penis being chopped up as a baby.
>>536554773Leviticus is Old Testament law that no longer applies. If Jesus didn't say it in the New Testament, then it doesn't matter.
Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover, of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigor.Leviticus 25:44-46 KJVAAEhttps://bible.com/bible/546/lev.25.44-46.KJVAAEA synonym for bondsmen is serf
>>536554861Why did your parents do that to you
>>536554925Yet Christians will quote the Old testament to bash gay people. You pick and choose. Be consistent
>>536554861I'm so sorry to hear that
>>536554773>How do you Christians justify LeviticusOld testament, kike.
>>536554969Christians will quote the Old testament to bash gay people. You pick and choose. Be consistent
>>536554965Those "Christians" are sadly misinformed about their own religion.
>>536554773>tattoosTrash
>>536554925Christcucks will say only the New Testament matters, not realizing that is how leftists use the bible to justify their actions.>Jesus loved gays and minorities, it says so in the New Testament!
>>536554773i dont give a fuck about the OT
>>536554965You lost tranny.
>>536554965I know for a fact that there are verses both in the old and new testament against homosexuality. I know because I have read it.
>>536554965are your little feelings hurt?
>>536554773Slavery in the Bible just means working for somebody else. If you don't own your own business, you're a slave working for somebody else who does own their own business. So modern-day wage slaves are technically just regular old slaves in Biblical terms.If you think about this carefully, you should be able to form a new understanding of everything the Bible says about slaves and slavery. >But slavery is evil!Not necessarily. Not everybody is smart or industrious enough to own their own business and keep it afloat. People who aren't cut out to be owners still need to make some kind of money somehow, working for a living is all most people are cut out for. You are also to note that according to the Bible, slaves are supposed to be set free after 7 years and their owner has to not only free them, but set them up in business for themselves. Imagine if modern-day wage slaves would get set up with their very own business after working seven years at Wal-Mart or whatever.
>>536554925basedthe OT is tribal nonsense
>>536555022Exactly
>>536554773I dont get it. Whats wrong with slaves if they arent of your own people? There is literally nothing wrong with chattle slavery, indentured, or any other kind of slavery. The problem lies with you granting human status to animals. My god 100% correct, faggots and slaves lose again
>>536554925Sort of, more like if jesus said something that contradicts old testament, it was on purpose to overwrite those. Jesus said:" do to others what you would have them do to you.” And “Love your neighbor as yourself.”That pretty much overwrites everything OP posted.
>>536554773>Leviticus>Christians
>>536554773I don't have a problem with it.
>>536554965>Be consistentOr what?>>536555022>Jesus loved gays and minorities, it says so in the New Testament!Where?
>>536555143Christians will quote the Old testament to bash gay people. You pick and choose. Be consistent. They will quote Leviticus all the time for things like this
>>536555134> There is literally nothing wrong with chattle slavery, indentured, or any other kind of slaveryYeah there is
>>536555189I could care less if the Bible says anything about faggots or not, its abhorrent regardless. Faggots need to be forced back into the closet and shut the fuck up.
>>536555186I don't know, but I am aware of vague verses of love everyone, love your neighbor etc and leftists repeat these over and over again for years as "proof" that Christianity is LGBT friendly.
>>536554773It would seem a difference of opinions has developed between God and Jesus. God desired kikes killing or enslaving everyone.Meanwhile, Jesus disagreed, and kikes killed him for this, but also, Jesus introduced entirely new concepts, such as "friendship between people instead of a vicious circle of genocidal wars".Kikes hate Christianity above all else because Jesus and his teaching are entirely unacceptable to them.
>>536554773
>>536554773The law is not an instruction manual on how to become God, it infuriates you because it's contradictory to your nature, the Law is god's ontology, if mankind didn't know evil, you wouldn't even need the law and these statutes would be irrelevant. The point of the law was to underline that your moral autonomy, (not your free will) is the root of the issue, and you've developed an ego as a result of knowing evil, and thusly you compare yourself to God because you want to be God. The situations the law deals with wouldn't exist in the primary condition driving the law-breaking didn't exist, So no slaves would exist to begin with. (Not because you're a mindless slave, but because there are no evil-doers.)This is why mankind builds shit that collapses in on itself and this is particularly why entropy exists. Romans deliberately addresses the constant feeling of hopelessness despite effort to fix ourselves with government and religion.(btw religion and secularism are a part of a moral dialectic in which both sides are actually just larping with internalized and externalized forms of guilt. Both sides are spiritually the same and thusly both see religion and government as necessities, which is an implication that we're aware of evil and thusly need the law because we're trying to be our own moral center, otherwise civilization cannot exist.)Morality can reveal the problem, but cannot fix it, when the source is where the problem originates. This is why salvation is by Grace. (God literally does everything for you. and while it may seem like it trivializes everything, due bare in mind that entropy is literally justice and mercy simultaneously while in this state. IF God allowed this shit to continue, it would be fake and gay for eternity, and that is something no anon could domesticate mentally.)
>>536554927King james is one of the worst bible versions btw. It was translated and retranslated multiple times from various previous versions. They didnt have access to or even know about the dead sea scrolls or the original greek new testament. Unironically newer versions of the bible are more accurate since they are direct translations from the oldest know old and new testaments.
>>536555217explain whats wrong with subjugation of lesser animals. We do it with pigs, whats the difference? I will not accept "because they ate people " or any derivative thereof.
>>536555287To Christians God and Jesus are one. Trinity. Not different people as you say
>>536555303 Do to others as you would have them do to you. Luke 6:31
>>536555073Paul was a jew in charge of rounding up christians for death.
>>536555287Is Christianity really that anti jewish if Jesus himself was jewish?
>>536554773Wasting time replying to a bait thread, but didn't Christ nullify most of the Jew-centric laws? Leviticus is part of the Old Testament (exclusive to Jews), but you never criticize Jews for it. Curious!
>>536554773Israelites are the ancestors of Europeans and we are the only hominids made in gods image. The other races are “beasts of the field” and meant to be our slaves.
>>536554773jesus himself says he came to fulfill the old law so no getting away from christianity’s jewish roots
>>536555414Christians will quote the Old testament to bash gay people. You pick and choose. Be consistent. They will quote Leviticus all the time for things like this.
>>536555414jews arent making laws prohibiting women from aborting pregnancies, or funding conversion camps
>>536555359Sure for humans, I agree. For various flora and fauna, that doesn't apply.
>>536555424Do to others as you would have them do to you. Luke 6:31.
>>536554773Christians don't read the Bible. If they ever do, as I did, they would reject that demonic and sadistic religion. It's the biggest psyop of all time.
>>536555380> is Christianity anti-jewishUsury is condemned by jesus. Luke 6:34–35
>>536555493Mental gymnastics because you can't address the facts on the table as I said would happen in the op
>>536555136The greek word that is translated as neigbor means “kin”. It doesn’t mean fuck all about shitskin slaves. They aren’t our “neighbors”
>>536554773The Old Testament isn't rules for Christians. The Old Testament is rules for Jews to follow.
>>536555493At least one other poster in this thread isn’t a faggot. Howdy brother
>>536555524Pretty sure I did. I dont keep white slaves. Everything else isnt human, and while im happy to treat niggers with the same care i treat horses or cattle, I dont see the difference between them. Working animals.
>>536555292Back to redd*t, kikeshill
>>536555497Doesn’t apply to animals and beasts. “Others” in the context of koine greek again was actually translated from a phrase that meant “others of your tribe”.
>>536555577>>536555695Time to read the story of the Good Samaritan, kike
>>536555488Israel has strict laws on abortion.
>>536554773There wasn’t much of a social safety net back then. If you were destitute, you couldn’t go on welfare.
>>536555724I don’t reply to meme flags. If you want me to reply earnestly, show flag jeet
>>536555331Jesus walked the earth while the God stayed away, watching from above. Therefore, obviously, Jesus and God are different entities.I will not tolerate foreign kikes trying to lecture me about faith. Your hostile intent has been immediately noticed!
>>536555380>Is protestantism really that anti Catholic if Luther himself was Catholic?
>>536555522Sounds great but a jewish man leading the believers doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
>>536555791I do wonder if you think you'll have a chance to tell God all your excuses or if you've accepted the possibility that you'll get tossed into the Lake of Fire without an opportunity to attempt pilpul
>>536555250>love everyoneSource?> love your neighborWell, what it it? Love everyone or just your neighbor?>leftists repeat these over and over again for years as "proof" that Christianity is LGBT friendlyYeah so? Why do you talk to leftists?
>>536555855> I'm not religious but let me tell you how I interpret your religion to use it against you and get you to comply
>>536555823Are Anglos really that anti-white if Kier Starmer himself is white? Such compelling logic, lmao
If God exists, it doesn't matter how you feel about slavery.Not that you actually represented the Leviticus or Deuteronomy Correctly
>>536554773>How do you Christians justify Leviticus 25:44-46?JC came to fulfill the prophets not abolish them. The law was good. God approved of people regulating themselves for the good of everyone. The law came from humans (moses), but Truth came from JC. Everything else, JC came to reform. Every single country that adopted Christianity thrives, every single one that denies it eats shit. Yes, islam are the reapers, they are their creator's punishment for trying to suppress the will of God. In Christianity, you either identify and elevate and connect to the Word of God or you suffer like a pathetic leftist with hopes of his indie band and craft beer making it. I can't go on, but implore you to separate the Word of God from the words of men. The trinity is the key that unlocks the door.
>>536554861you're a slave to your own dick? faggot.
>>536554773The bible was written by retards
>>536554773Humans couldn't follow God's instructions when it was just about not eating a particular fruit. Israel has failed following them on every turn, like by demanding to have kings, because they wanted to be more like pagans.God didn't give Israel the best law He had, but the best they could take. Same was with divorce that Jesus criticized. Old Testament gave slaves rights, like to being freed when sustaining an injury from their ownerAbolishing slavery was not viable because 95% of people lived in extreme poverty. Compare OT slaves rights to Rome throwing slaves to lions for entertainment or XX century Imperial Japan letting sex slaves of their army to be raped 40 times per day. As you can see, OT was more humane towards slaves than pagans were
>>536554773I don't think slavery is inherently immoral.If you can keep pet dogs and cats while loving them and not abusing thm you can do the same with slaves
>>536554965Alhamdulillah I use the Quran to bash gay people.And the fact that there is no gay gene, and being gay being a choice
>>536555909Nice non sequitur brown boy.
Suspiciously high count of meme flags in here all conspicuously antichrist. Really gets the noggin joggin. Fuckin mongrels, you’ve lost another bait thread. Better luck next time.
the only think i can really think of here is that God is planting a seed in the minds of the people here. whats happening here is people being gently forced to acknowledge the ruthlessness and evil of slavery. basically "this is so bad, how could you possibly subject your people to this?" at this point of course it only applies to your in-group, but the reality is that once that seed is planted about the nature of the institution, once people are confronted with its evil nature, its is then only a matter of time before people start applying the same logic to other people, which is, you know, exactly what happened . its only a matter of time for people to take "dont be cruel to your own people" to become "dont be cruel period" basically its reform taken in baby steps as each small step is given time to be thoroughly internalized by individuals and systematized by civilizations. the first baby step is saying "this is cruel, it would be wrong to submit my brother to this" and the second baby step is "this is cruel, why would i subject anybody to this"it may seem silly or obvious but you're talking about an institution that is intimately entrenched in human civilization at the time when this was written to the point where its the norm and the idea of opposing it is crazy. when something is so deeply entrenched you need those baby steps just to get your foot in the door
>>536554773>I would come to expect that a perfectly moral and all-loving God would say "I hate slavery" and "Thou shall not own other people as property"I'm no christian, but you're a retarded faggot. The only way to believe that god wouldn't condone slavery is to start with the assumption that god wouldn't condone slavery. There's no logical principle behind this assumption. The only reason you have it was because you grew up believing it to be true. Completely arbitrary.It might work as an anti-christian strategy I guess. Those christians you're attacking grew up in the same world as you so maybe they feel slavery is wrong too, and this will push them over the edge. But it might not work, doublethink's pretty fucking easy. And it sure as hell won't work as an anti-kike strategy because they all secretly want to make you their slaves anyway. The shylocks have a slavery fetish. And being a retarded leftoid faggot, you're too dim to see it.
>>536556060Oh for fucks sakes man you couldn’t tell I was agreeing with you? I was making fun of the poster you replied to. I wondered for a second if you’d misinterpret it, but thought to myself “if he is real German he will get it”, unfortunately you’re retarded.
>>536554965American protestantes and post second council catholics, what you call "christiansnism" is just another imperial cult like anglicanismo.
>>536555931he quoted the bible
>>536555737in the US
>>536556237The Bible wasn’t written in English.
>>536554773Feed her 100 BBC.
>>536556180Kek certainly not going to listen to some jungle monkey pontificating about it for sure.
>>536556277nigga the word is still slave and what you’re allowed to do to the slave is consistent with aramaic
>>536555861You're lying if you haven't heard them say things like that.>dude, like Christianity is so progressive, Jesus loved gays and transgenders and whoresI've heard this repeatedly over the years. /pol/ saying only the New Testament matters falls directly in line with leftists and how they see Christianity.
>>536554773I'm not a tattoo man but that spider tattoo on her hip is fucking crazy. I'll have to remember that for an original character.
>>536556324I know. Though, so much is mistranslated that “he quoted the Bible” doesn’t hold ss much weight ad you’d think. Like the other verses they quoted. By the way, why are you speaking ebonics like a nigger? What is fucking wrong with you?
>>536556277you can beat your slave as long as he doesn’t die within three days exodus 21:20-21
>>536555464At least you're a consistent faggot
>>536556358Some faggots recently suggesting Jesus was transgender. This tier of blasphemy is only tolerated by Christians. Sometimes I envy the more quick to violence Muslims in that way. These faggots wouldnt dare speak this way of Muhammad the dog.
>>536556407then throw it out cause it’s over nigga
>>536555289>entropy is literally justice and mercyHoly mind virus. The Renaissance really did awaken a sick cosmovision.
>>536554965>Be consistentWhy? So you can use my beliefs against me and manipulate me into bowing to your agenda? No, I don't think I will. I'll continue to cheery-pick what I want I order to advance my agenda and resist yours. Once you and everyone like you are defeated, dead and gone, then maybe I'll worry about forming a consistent belief system.
>>536556411Based. If a slave acts up obviously they need beaten, just like a dog or a farmanimal. Good advice not to kill your property though.
>>536556407>I know. Though, so much is mistranslated that “he quoted the Bible” doesn’t hold ss much weight ad you’d think. Like the other verses they quoted. By the way, why are you speaking ebonics like a nigger? What is fucking wrong with you?The Old Testament is jewish nonsense, and isn't Christian at all. The Gospels are the only true source, and if you read Mark you start to wonder about the other 3.
>>536556411I dont see the problem here. Dies on day 4, not my problem.
>>536556473I won’t reply to you again, I don’t speak to jewish wiggers.
>>536554773Christianity is civilizing a corrupt wing of societyMost corruption follows similar patterns, so the cure for theirs also works
>>536555577Kin means victory
>>536556528Mark seemed like the only honest one. The other guys thought about it a little too long to be trusted.
>>536556507>or a farmchrist kikes are subhuman
>>536554925>>536554965>>536555022>>536555121>>536555136Read Matthew 5:17-18 for the class please.
>>536554773Old testament mumbo jumbo shouldn't have ever been included in the bible. Too contradictory towards the teachings of Jesus, and likely much of it he wouldn't have wanted associated with his teachings either.
>>536554773Exodus 23, right after the Ten Commandments, is an instruction manual on slave ownership. It give a very detailed rundown on what you can and can’t do to a slave. Think about that, the most important ecclesiastical laws apart from the Ten Commandments themselves is on the proper stewardship of slaves.
>>536554773Imagine those juicy lips sucking on an even juicier oily BBC.
>>536554965There’s plenty of stuff about butt sex in the New Testament.
>>536556551how is that? the most christian communities have the worst outcomes in every single measure. More stds, lower life expectancy, poorer, less educated, higher divorce
>>536554773>humans write down the word of God.>expecting them not to write in stuff that benefits them.You have the morality God gave you. Use it. Note the large number of Christian abolitionists in history.
1 Thessalonians 2:14-1621st Century King James Version14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God in Judea which are in Christ Jesus; for ye also have suffered like things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jews,15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted us. They please not God and are contrary to all men,16 forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles, that they might be saved, thus heaping up their sins always. But the wrath has come upon them to the uttermost!
>>536556536your culture is fundamentally jewish and you are a stain on humanity
>>536554773>please wont you listen to my morality over his morality.No.
>>536555799Logically what you're saying makes sense. There's a Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, they're one deity but they do appear to differ in terms of temperament. Furthermore, Hebrew word for God is plural, so it stands to reason the plurality of divinity has precedent even in Christianity's Hebrew roots.
>>536554773I want to see her face get creampied by a thick BBC while she continues to suck on it.
>>536556647You realize how disingenuous it is to lump African christians in with the civilized world correct? Their cohorts are out in the countryside cracking children's skulls open looking for magic gold that will cure them of aids.
>>536556794you realize your culture holds humanity back? you are the reason the west continues to shoot itself in the foot over and over. controlling for niggers doesn’t fix the outcomes
>>536554773Her only purpose on this planet is to have her womb filled, to pass babies through her pelvic bone, and then to provide them nourishment through her teats.
>>536554773There is unmistakable lust in her eyes for a thick BBC and an indomitable will to swallow every last bit of its cum.
>>536556477Performative language.It's easier to just admit God exists and that you don't care. Some people have the ability to admit this just for the ego cudos of being honest in an absolute sense, but people will majority of the time, pretend like they're disagreeing with an actual argumentStart arguing anytime.
>>536556937You know god can be real without your jew right?
>>536554773Yes goy. Problem?
>>536554925>Leviticus is Old Testament law that no longer applies.Where did Jesus condemn slavery?
>>536556937Convincing arguments for god do not get you to a triune god with a jewish son
it's jewish garbage. there are multiple confirmed errors and lies in the bible. it has the morality of bronze age kikes. jesus failed to return in the apostles lifetimes like he declaredchristkikes will deploy every lie and deflection to keep the messianic fraud going
>>536554773I never owned any slaves so I don't really see how it has any relevance to me.
>>536556992>t. God is part of my identity because i am cool.Why is it that /pol/ always has these types of self-absorbed egoists that are only willing to expand on the concept of God if he resembles them in some way shape or form. Do you actually give a fuck about truth, then consider the possibility that God only took the form of a Levantine man for an objective premise, not to wag your inferior genetics in your face. Don't take the book as a personal attack, God doesn't need you to be God, he's doing it for you, and its not supposed to sound belittling or condescending, which is why he literally let his own racial category crucify him when they thought he was crazy. He didn't do it just for them either. IF the fact that he was impartial about it offends you, then it says more about you than it actually does about the validity of the bible in light of its claims.
>>536556937There might be a God or creator of some kind, but we already know Christianity is made up. Humans can't rise from the dead or perform miracles, etc.
>>536556762Anon, we now understand that God was a jewish supremacist while Jesus was a peacenik. However, we still do not know what was the Holy Ghost's opinion.You seem competent on this subject. Can you tell us more?
>>536557244>do you actually give a fuck about truthNIGGER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JEWISH FAIRY TALES
>>536557270You are not arguing from “maybe God.” You are arguing from “maybe a creator exists, but he cannot act in creation.” That is not neutrality; that is a hidden anti-miracle premise. Christianity does not claim humans naturally rise from the dead. It claims God raised Christ from the dead. If God may exist as creator, then miracles cannot be dismissed merely because creatures cannot perform them by ordinary natural power. You need to argue why God cannot or would not act, not just restate that nature does not usually do supernatural things.Come on. Theres two other anons that constantly invoke circular reasoning arguements to detract from this but they always fall flat too because they smuggle in presuppositions that their anecedotal experience of reality ad-hoc implies causal reasoning is an infinite regression, and thats just bullshit pretending like it explains the ontology of the regression itself.
>>536557415>You are arguing from “maybe a creator exists, but he cannot act in creation.”Where did I say that? Try going more than one sentence without twisting my words around like a snake.
>>536554925>Jesus didn't say worship him as your lord and savior in the new testament What's the point of writing shit down if god constantly changes his mind?
>>536554773>How do you Christians justify LeviticusIt's simple, Strull: Jesus changed the nature of God - from the murderous, evil thunder god of the Old Testament, to the loving father of the New Testament.It's also why you Jews hate Jesus to this day.
>>536557382Are you offended by epistemic truth overlapping with things you dislike and are willing to literally deny reality just because your ego demands that you categorize things through a racial lenses before you even consider them? Did your peas touch the corn, i know that you're buck-broken about corn existing, its the whole other scary ass paradigm of not looking like a pea.
>>536557244You want to explain why you don’t believe in the millions of other religions? Why prefer christianity to any other?
>>536554773>Leviticusfake and gay
>>536557495>epistemic truththings evangelicals don't care about for $1000 alex
>>536556579So Christianity is Jewish then.
>>536557495what epistemic truth does christianity communicate? that life is hard and you need to bear your cross? you don’t need a jew to tell you life is hard
>>536557449You implied that when you reject that God which is ontologically the hypothetical source in your framework couldn't raise Jesus from the dead. You don't even know what the bible is claiming happened. I didn't twist shit. You simply do not understand that God is not entirely human ontologically.
>>536556937What do you think was meant by >be fruitful and multiply?
>>536557611No its that being your own moral reference is as pointlessly stupid as a computer trying to repair itself with a broken recovery image.
>>536554773>How do you Christians justify Leviticus 25:44-46I don't.Belief is an internal thing I do for myself and contentment. I don't do it for outside validation.I don't need outside approval.
>>536557632>You implied thatNo I didn't. You twisted my words around.
>>536557665And am I right in thinking that asceticism was a later, somewhat heretical invention?
>>536554773That's a man.
>>536557495christianity doesn’t provide you with an objective moral compass. there’s no normative framework, just a carrot and a stick. God says so
>>536554773I think you're letting yoir 21st century contemporary morals color your opinion on how a civilization in the bronze age ought to behave. Efforts to end the institution of slavery only came about 200 years ago and it still exists in non-Christian countries. Someone already pointed out this was from Leviticus but I'd like to also mention that over the centuries the Israelites' religion would go through drastic changes from establishing a kingdom to losing it and going into exile to getting it back again but only under occupation by an empire. Leviticus is before the Israelites even have a kingdom and sets out the laws for the time when they worshipped in the tabernacle. This should tell you that the religion doesn't typically stay stuck in a single era. It changes as we advance in a direction of peace and freedom.
>>536557714And, I may introducing my own heresy here, but what do you think was the significance of Christ being born under the star?
>>536554773Might makes Right. Enough said.
>>536557714“Be fruitful and multiply” is a creation mandate, not a claim that every individual must reproduce or that self-denial is heresy. Orthodox asceticism does not say creation, marriage, sex, or the body are evil. It says created goods must not become gods. The heretical version is the one that treats matter/sex/body as evil. That is not the biblical frame.It either is being argued from dualism which is bullshit, or gnosticism. Which is just Satan's lie in the form of a philosophy.
>>536557681>I don't do it for outside validation.Half of the Christians in North America exclusively do it for validation, so it's hard not to make that the default assumption about them.
>>536554773The early Church Fathers generally would not have accepted the claim that Leviticus 25:44–46 is evil. Living in the Roman world, where slavery was a universal social institution, they did not approach the text through modern concepts of human rights. Instead, they interpreted it within a broader theological framework centered on creation, sin, and redemption.Most Fathers taught that slavery was not part of God's original design for humanity. St. Augustine argued that God created human beings equal by nature and intended them to rule over animals, not over one another. In his view, slavery arose as a consequence of sin and the disorder introduced by the Fall. Thus, laws regulating slavery in the Old Testament were understood as God's governance of a fallen society rather than an endorsement of an ideal social order.Similarly, St. John Chrysostom emphasized the spiritual equality of masters and slaves. While he did not call for the abolition of slavery, he taught that both shared the same dignity before God, received the same sacraments, and were equally called to salvation. The Gospel, for Chrysostom, transformed the relationship between master and slave by teaching that both were brothers in Christ.
>>536554773>I fail to see how an all-loving and moral God would ever command something evil and immoral such as this.you dont understand God, so obviously you wouldn't understand the long term goal of such a law.slaves didn't become long term slaves, unless they chose to be.after 7 years every slave was to be set free, but if they loved their masters they could choose to remain slaves for life, and from their eventually, after many generations, they could even become members of the family through marriage, becoming full on israelites, under the protections and privileges.obviously, you being a retarded nigger, you wouldn't understand the true purpose of such a law, since you only see slavery from the american nigger brainwashing that you've gone through.that said, the israelites/jews became so corrupt, that few ever wanted to remain life long slaves, so the jews didn't give them their sabbath, forcing them into becoming lifelong slaves, against the law.which is why God came down and destroyed israel, and judah, white slave owners in america followed the same path as the jews/israelites, that's why american whites have been overthrown and the nation taken from you.you never gave people their sabbaths.
>>536557768>it still exists in non-Christian countries.Plenty of non-Christian countries have abolished slavery, like USA for example.
>>536554773Leviticus is OT. We don't follow those laws, we follow the new testament of Jesus Christ
>>536554773its moral because its just saying to enslave the goyim, and the goyim aren't real people anyway. Christ is King.
>>536557763meant for >>536557677
>>536557832Having the capacity to kill everyone on earth turn me into the chosen One. That's just how it work.
>>536555012>>536554773also, would/10, i
>>536557763>objective moral compassYou already smuggled in the category when you said “objective moral compass.” So ground yours. If your compass is reason, flourishing, consent, harm reduction, social contract, or evolution, explain why it binds objectively rather than functioning as preference, utility, or tribal software.Christianity is not “God says so” in the arbitrary sense. The claim is that the good is grounded in God’s nature, and the Law reflects that ontology. I’m also not defending “religion” as a human guilt-machine. Genesis 3 explains why both religion and secularism become rival methods of moral self-justification after man seizes the knowledge of good and evil.The Bible itself condemns religious self-righteousness: religious men used the Law to crucify God under a false charge of blasphemy. So no, the biblical answer is not “religion saves.” The answer is that morality exposes the problem, but grace solves what moral machinery cannot.
>>536557900Yes, we were a none Christian country in the 19th century. That's why we instituted the Thanksgiving holiday and wrote the battle hymn of the Republic during the Civil War.
>>536555287the purpose of the law was to protect israel until the time of Jesus, so that they wouldn't destroy themselves by committing too much sin.once Jesus arrived, and they murdered him (and he ressurected), he sent his spirit to those who accepted him, thereby fulfilling his promise to abraham, that he'd redeem his people.the first christians were jews, for the first 100 years, a lot were also gentiles, but the main propagators were christians, which had accepted the holy spirit and were doing great feats.>healing>ressurections>prophecyingand so onthe old testament is still true, and valid, except that if you're christian its not needed (except to guide and instruct) if you have the holy spirit, which guides you to all truth.
>>536557829Maybe I'm retarded but it seems like you're missing my point. That mandate to continue doesn't have an expiration date. Letting us, beings made in gods image, rot away, knowing we have the potential to spread into the stars, fight entropy, and continue, aand denying it, seems like a grave sin. I understand well enough that there will be an inevitable tendency to become enamored with creations that serve worldly interests, but I don't see this as a justification to stop building, just as the understanding that lust is a sin is not meant to dissuade a man from marrying and having (procreative) sex.
>>536556277it was written in english, with a texan accent from the 1800's, by racist white peoplethis is historically true, ask any black person
>>536558013>Yes, we were a none Christian country in the 19th century.That's correct. The U.S. Constitution is a entirely secular document, and explicitly states that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." This was revolutionary at the time, breaking from traditions where rulers or officials had to swear allegiance to a specific faith.>That's why we instituted the Thanksgiving holiday and wrote the battle hymn of the Republic during the Civil War.I never said there weren't Christians in the country.
>>536558105It's funny how this revolutionary act gave them mutilated cock.
>>536557989Yes christianity’s morality is arbitrary. Good being “grounded in god’s nature” is a meaningless statement that doesn’t mean objective. It’s god’s preference
>christians bad thread #1269383785>
>>536558179No, circumcision was a thing long before USA.
>>536558092You’re right that “be fruitful and multiply” affirms life, embodiment, reproduction, building, and dominion. Christianity is not anti-creation. But you’re making the mandate do more than it says. Genesis commands man to cultivate creation under God. It does not command fallen man to defeat entropy and death through his own autonomous civilizational project. That is the difference between dominion and Babel. Transcendentalism will not work for the same reason God subjected the universe to futility. He did it to protect man from himself because he would end up creating the conditions found in hell if these systems were allowed to finalize. Which is why throughout history you see this shit constantly collapse, waxing and waning everywhere. Globalism is just the collective manifestation of Babylon in a geopolitical/economic context, and you can see why the fourth turning is relevant because death keeps these systems from scaling exponentially.Anon i'm not trying to project condescension here, its just that theres a fuck ton of overlap because we're talking about a sea of categorical subjects that are all derived from God's existence and what man has done within it as a result of knowing good and evil. So shit like your eschatological misattribute is understandable. Read the mustard seed parable, Jesus is talking about how man will take his teachings and turn it into religion, and the tree is not a mustard bush, its a complete abomination and distortion, the birds are the enemies of god, and the branches are ego categorized denominations that care more about legalistic interpretations of doctrine moreso than the gospel or the grace it axiomatically functions on.
>>536554773some prophet tells them the future so they think it justifies their horrible predicted behavior. evil fucking retards.https://www.bitchute.com/video/g94hm9ueRkZp
>>536558269Penis mutilation was banned throughout all of history for most people.
>>536558469I think it's creepy to circumcise babies, but I don't care if a grown man wants to have it done.
>>536558549A grow man has power to kill you. So, it's not like you have a choice in the matter
>>536558263>>>536557989 (You)>Yes christianity’s morality is arbitrary. Good being “grounded in god’s nature” is a meaningless statement that doesn’t mean objective. It’s god’s preferenceRefer to >>536557415specifically >Come on. Theres two other anons that constantly invoke circular reasoning arguements to detract from this but they always fall flat too because they smuggle in presuppositions that their anecedotal experience of reality ad-hoc implies causal reasoning is an infinite regression, and thats just bullshit pretending like it explains the ontology of the regression itself.You're assuming infinite regressions that are uncaused are possibile with a framework that uses the same anecdotal reasoning ad-hoc. Come on anon.
>>536558577huh? did you respond to the wrong post?
>>536554965I bash faggots because they're filthy child-molesting degenerates.
>>536558618>I don't care if a grown man wants to have it done.You talked as if you can do anything even if you care. You cannot force an adult to mutilated their own cock.
>>536556490This. Leftoids have earned my spite. I never try arguing with them in good faith anymore, I just insult them and try to make them chimp out.
>>536558636Most Gay people aren't pedophiles, though. And many Christians are pedophiles. The President of USA is also a pedophile.
>>536558656I didn't say I wanted to force anyone to do it, you just hallucinated that.
>>536558611a christian god’s moral prescriptions are arbitrary
>>536558695>Most Gay people aren't pedophilesThey are though and so are you. Kill yourself you insufferable human trash.
>>536558717And? You also asserted your bullshit retarded opinion to God Almighty.
>>536558636kek it’s over nigga
>>536558754christianity and pedophilia go hand in hand. Your churches protect nonces
>>536558755He's an arrogant cocksucking faggot who finally got a whiff of a chance to call someone else a pedophile and now that's his entire belief system.>>536558717Hey faggot, what do you think of the muslim rape gangs in Britain who are bona fide pedophile gang rapists? I know you don't give a shit about that you only pretend to care about pedophilia as a vehicle for your typical leftoid whataboutism. Kill yourself, faggot.
>>536558754>They are thoughNo, that isn't correct. You decided that inside your imagination.
>>536558790>assumes i'm christian because he can't fathom anything outside his retarded leftoid bubbleYou are also a pedophile faggot, kill yourself.
>>536558818Kill yourself, you worthless trash.
>>536558719You’re arguing morality as subjective preference while smuggling in racial disgust as your real standard. That means your “philosophy” is just ego-filtered ontology: truth only matters to you when it validates the lie you already want to protect.And ironically, that is exactly how false peace works: once morality becomes preference plus power, enemies can be administratively reconciled overnight under the same counterfeit order. You think your racial hatred is principled, but under the right system you’ll be made to love what you currently hate, because your standard is not truth. It is whichever lie preserves the ego at the moment.
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>>536558801>what do you think of the muslim rape gangs in Britain who are bona fide pedophile gang rapists?Seems like they've been arrested. Good, rapists should rot.> I know you don't give a shit about that you only pretend to care about pedophiliaNo, that's the people pretending gays are committing most of it, and not straight men who molest little girls, like Donald Trump.
>>536554773Why is slavery wrong to someone who doesn't believe in morality?
>>536558849look at how emotionally fragile you are lol
>>536558873It isn't, that's why Christians liked slavery.
>>536558852They're all low IQ narcissists and sociopaths. They're cum-swilling degenerates one and all with CP on the computers and phones they shitpost with. The worst hypocrites.
>>536558881Look at how not dead you are. Kill yourself.>>536558866>REEEE! BLORMPF! FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!Kill yourself twice.
>>536558695>Most Gay people aren't pedophilesIgnoring reality isn't going to help you.>And many Christians are pedophiles.How very convincing, go back to leftypol.
>>536558936you're exploding into a toddler tantrum because you felt mildly challenged. it's so pathetic
>>536558852>you’re arguing morality as subjective preference No that’s what you’re doing. You’re the one with a book of oughts and ought nots
>>536554773soooooname?
>>536558911Don’t turn this into purity-signaling. The point isn’t “those guys are subhuman degenerates and we’re righteous.” That’s the same moral ego in a different outfit. I’m attacking the ontology and the posture, not trying to farm contempt points. Personal attacks just give him a way to dodge the actual argument.Give him a chance. We are all sinners here. Even if you use the same semblance logic on me, and i won't deny it because of what the book says is the case, even if i myself am doing it for the same reason the pharisee are championing, it doesn't dismiss the fact that he can be saved. the ad hominem isn't going to help.
>>536556575>Mark seemed like the only honest one.I like Richmond Lattimore's translation the best, I think. Translates it literally, doesn't stoop to fixing grammar or injecting modern idiotmatic speech. And it's truly a strange story.The others might be jewish fabrications from Paulians. The need to connect Jesus to the Old Testament, to try to make up shit that he was fulfilling prophecy. If you read Mark carefully, you seriously start to wonder if Jesus had anything to do with YHWH at all, he was the emissary of some other deity. Ends it more or less with "others will claim they are me", and then we get Paul claiming he met Jesus after he was crucified and we're supposed to believe that kikey hogshit?
>>536558998Nah, kill yourself.
>>536558852I haven’t made any claims about objective morality beyond christians not having any
>>536558985>Ignoring realityi love how you think you're entitled to others automatically believing the narrative you made up. actual crayola crayon rhetoric lmao
>>536559114The strong is good, and the weak is evil. That's an ovjective fact.
>>536559139aight
>>536555959the only people that complain about being chopped are the ones who never use your their dick.
>>536556762>Furthermore, Hebrew word for God is plural, so it stands to reasonThe reason that the word is plural is because they were talking about multiple entities. The jews worshiped a pantheon like every other ancient people. They weren't saying "Big G god created the heavens and he Earth". They were saying "the gods created the heaves and the Earth" without naming them at all. They continued to worship and entire pantheon of demons throughout most of their history, and they even do so today... you just can't tell because they have a taboo about saying the name of the god of whichever particular ritual they are engaged in. Tomorrow ritual might be to a completely different god, you wouldn't know. They might not know themselves.At least the muslims name their demon and make it a point of creed that there is only one god. Bugshit crazy all of them, but they're probably the only true monotheists in the world.
>>536558911I automatically assume anyone throwing pedo accusations or fixated on it is a pedo themselves.Pedophilia is immoral, some minors can be attractive though that's just nature though you shouldn't do it even in those cases because it is immoral, that's pretty much all there is to it.
>>536559114>I haven’t made any claims about objective morality beyond christians not having anyThats simply not true, earlier you claimed a negative about Christianity using the same moral premise you're now denying exists. >>536557763You used “Christians don’t have objective morality” as a criticism. That only has force if objective morality is real or at least required. If it isn’t real, then you’re accusing Christianity of lacking something you deny exists. That’s not an argument, it’s a semantic smoke bomb.
>>536559262>If it isn’t real, then you’re accusing Christianity of lacking something you deny exists.NTA. Personally I believe human mutual well-being can be optimized for in an objective way. Whether you call that morality is up to you, I guess.That said, if I didn't believe in objective morality, it would stand to reason that I would also think Christians don't have access to it.
>>536559262when did I say objective morality doesn’t exist?
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>>536554965evangelicuck dispensationalists might
>>536554773God is never wrong and you can made 'handmaidens' from the daughters of your enemies if God so wills it.However we as Christians live by the word of Jesus Christ alone and there is no commandment to do such things now.
>>536559127Source?
>>536559334You’re proving the route planner works after you typed in the destination. You still haven’t proven why that destination is morally mandatory. “Human mutual well-being” may be objectively optimizable, but why is it objectively authoritative?I get you're trying with secularism, but like i said its a moral dialectic, you can defer within this dialectic about religion and still be in the wrong while mechanically agreeing with them over the need for these systems, when the need implies ontologically that man is pretending to be something he isn't. Which is precisely why the book talks about deception and how the false christ literally is the biggest larper of all time. The culture war shit is essentially ego-theatre because both sides don't actually want the other side to cease to exist otherwise they have no excuse for their failing to be the ontological answer to their problems. Which is why i don't buy into religious denominations and i also don't buy secularisms explanation because the book addresses the dialectic itself.
>>536559459and the guys with robes speak for the guy who can never be wrong?
>>536554773The Old Testament was written during a time of incredible brutality. God was giving people training wheels in morality and putting boundaries around the conditions of slavery
>>536554773Strange, I don't remember leviticus being written in common english.
>>536559384Then ground it. You used “objective moral compass” as an indictment, retreated when asked to ground it, and now you’re saying you never denied it. Fine. If objective morality exists, what is its ontology? “Human well-being” is a destination you chose, not a proof that the destination is morally mandatory.
>>536559043yeait seems obvious that Jesus and Yahweh are clearly completely different, diametrically opposed belief systems which themselves are just stitched together memes from 2000 years agohow the fuck can you read the old testament and follow this cult that bumbles around getting fucked over by their (clearly insecure and manipulative) desert demon they worship... then read about Jesus giving a shit about everyone around him, and think > oh yea these are the same thing > also i need to donate money to israel :DDD
>>536556762>Furthermore, Hebrew word for God is pluralNo, it isn't.
>>536559556it’s a physical part of the universe. Morality is a real tangible feeling in real tangible beings in the material universe.>>536559556
>>536554925You are going to hell
>>536554773BBC
>>536559786You're going to hell.
>>536554773The nations around were killing kids by baking them alive for Moloch. They deserved worse than slavery.
>>536559780A compass needle physically moving does not prove north exists unless there is a real north outside the needle. Moral feeling being physically real does not prove objective morality unless it corresponds to a real moral order outside the feeling.Materialism is literally what kikes do, and its ironically exactly what you're doing. This is why i believe the culture wars is just a dialectic waltz, your enemies, but you're doing the exact same damned thing for the exact same reasons. How come the closest person that can understand you. Is unironically the person you hate the most? Can you answer this?
>>536559867I don't think you understand hoe jewish what you said is. The nations is a synonym for the goyim.
>>536559592>jesus giving a shit about everyone around himchiggers lying as naturally as they breathe again, I see.
>>536559490The word tells you that you are on your own in this world anon. Only God through Jesus Christ can offer you salvation. Your soul is real and lives on after death. Its fate may be heaven may be hell as both are real.
>>536554773The Bible wasn't written by God, you dumbfuck.
>>536560002Why do we care what it says, then?
>>536559900north and south are functional, memetic representations of the magnetic poles from our planet's rotation, so yes, there IS a real north and south outside of the arrow. The very existance of the compass itself is proof of the concept in your very hand. >muh kikes kikes kikes kikes mup de doWhy won't they ever call jews jews when pretending to notice them? I'm sick of this fake performative antisemitism LARP from people who worship, enable, defend and enrich jews, as well as believing in jewish fairytales from the fucking bronze age.
>>536559414What's the second commandment?
>>536560036>why should we ignore the fact that 1+1 = 2Can you answer?
>>536559867Correct they were so depraved only killing the males and keeping the virgin females could offer any hope for them.Which in fact brings us to the modern day industrial scale abortion industry. The parallels are rather sobering. Females have raised themselves to the status of gods to decide life and death.
>>536556695Jews worship satan the decieverOf course all you do is lieJesus is coming back to smoke your ass You occultist worshiping demonic fuck
>>536560036because it was made up by a bronze age jew who beefed with other bronze age jews about not being jewish enough, who claimed to be the rape child son of said god, whom he also claimed to be a manifestation of. and christians/catholics think jews are gods chosen people, because the bible(and jesus himself) said so.
>>536560252The only chosen one of God is Me. I am literally the only ONE.
>>536560214those questions aren't equivalent, because math can be relied upon for solving material problems, and God can't be relied upon for anything.
>>536554925Yes and no. Most people don't understand how laws work. OT was the foreshadowing of the NT, and the OT laws were fulfilled in Christ. Any OT covenant that was not amended by NT covenants and Church doctrines, still stand.
>>536560224All abrahamic faiths worship the same god retard, you're all descendant cults of the same bronze age foreskin stealing, child sacrificing sand demon cult.
>>536560286Why is it not? Why is 1+1 = 2 is right, and why is 1+1 = 3 is wrong?
>>536558339Thanks for the reply, I'll be mulling it over. Likewise, I think you should mull over a couple things: I didn't invoke the individual. For most of my life I've even felt iffy about the field of medicine. There is a significant difference between prolonging a life vs life in general. Also, there's no need for all space-faring men to be subjects to some star trek-esque hyperstate. Consider the feasibility (a few centuries from now) of multi-generational vehicles getting sent in every direction, a gorillion miles away. Earth logic won't translate neatly to the cosmos. The concept of a unifying state/institution may not reappear given that there will never be a shortage of "green pastures" in need of optimally administering. At least not in the first few gorillion years of homesteading+gradual expansion.And know that I was triggered by your line about entropy because I've identified a strain of thought endemic to liberalism which causes their subconscious to spring a boner when reading:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universeIt's been concerning me for a few months now.
>>536560280okay michaela
>>536560334because of how we define numbers and the operation of addition. it's a logical consequence of the rules we established to count and measure reality.
>>536559900>moral feeling being physically real does not probe objective morality unless it corresponds to a real moral order outside the feelingmorality exists as a contract between agents, is that not enough? Why must it be written in the stars that “rape creates unintended consequences?”
>>536555524>>536555497>>536555464>>536555359>>536555331hi abdul
>>536560374It's a logical consequences as well that if you mess with someone more powerful than you, you will literally have to go to Hell for it.
>>536560334>why can't 1 + 1 = 3Because, you only have two single objects to combine
>>536560430You will literally never be rich. How do you cope?
>>536560417No it isn't. I haven't seen any examples of humans going to "hell", so why would I logically conclude anyone goes there?
>>536560330> before Abraham was, I am
>>536560389pretty sure abdul hates gays
>>536560468I have seen plenty of people going against God all somehow have mutilated penis.
>>536560529Okay. I wrote that I haven't seen any examples of someone going to hell.
>>536560417>jewish fairytale foreskin munching demon>logicThe mere notion that any one faith's god is the correct one is illogical without real, direct evidence of the existance of any one of these millions of gods we've been making up since we could start thinking about concepts more advanced than our immediate surroundings and our next meal. If you were actually being reasonable or logical about your belief you'd worship the fucking sun while you wait to die and see which god/gods happen to be real. At least the sun is a real, tangible thing we can prove exists, we can observe, and we know for a fact is a crucial part of what allowed life to flourish on Earth.
>>536560577I have seen a literal God that can predict future with 100% precision.
>>536560529>mutilated penisWhat a strange cohencidence
>>536560614I saw a leprechaun.
>>536560636It's not a coincidence. Jesus Christ cursed you people.
>>536560457>muh wealth muh munees mup de do
>>536555959That's what being a man is bigly about.
>>536555959>>536559212goy cope
>>536559592>how the fuck can you read the old testament and follow this cult that bumbles around getting fucked over by their (clearly insecure and manipulative) desert demon they worship... then read about Jesus giving a shit about everyone around him, and thinkI suspect that the jews did have an encounter with Jesus' "Abba". Just once. I think that Abraham failed the test. I think that he did not pass it, and that he was supposed to REFUSE to sacrifice his son. But he failed, Abba had to intervene in a hurry to avert something awful, and then Abba refused to have anything to with the jews until he sent Jesus. And again, he discovered how obscene and pathological the kikes were.Then Paul the liar came along, and subverted whatever little good Jesus had done in just a few years.
>>536560717Fortune favors the religious. Atheists are all wage cattle.Cry about it.
>>536560663So who are "my people" in the headcanon you made up?
>>536560753The anti-christ brigades that hate God Almighty with a passion.
>>536560774isn't that basically everyone on earth except the demographic you happened to be born in?
>>536560802Not everyone is fighting against Christ. The best you can do is to shut up, but nope, you cannot stop yourself from spouting garbage blasphemous shit.
>>536560377>>536560377You just proved the compass analogy. The needle matters because it corresponds to a real north outside the needle. Moral feeling works the same way: if there is no moral north outside the agent, then the feeling is just internal motion. A physical feeling existing in a physical being proves sensation, not obligation.And this is exactly where both sides conveniently overlook Christ for the same underlying reason: ego-defense.The Pharisee denies Christ because Christ exposes religious piety as inadequate. He challenges the idea that law, ritual, ethnic covenant status, doctrine, purity, and outward righteousness can justify man before God. So the religious ego rejects him because grace humiliates religious self-justification.The secular/gentile ego denies Christ from the opposite direction: because Christ is in proximity to the people and religious frame it already despises. It does not ask whether the claim is true. It sees the Jewish covenantal context and rejects the whole thing through racial/cultural contempt before ontology even gets a hearing.So one side says, “He cannot be God because he condemns my religious righteousness.”The other says, “He cannot be God because he came through a people I hate.”Different methodology. Same refusal.Both are offended by the same Christ because Christ refuses to be useful to the ego. He is not a mascot for religious superiority, racial resentment, secular autonomy, or moral self-authorship. He destroys boasting in every direction.That is why the cross is the center. Religious men used the Law to condemn the Lawgiver, Gentile power executed him, and God used that exact convergence to offer grace to both. Jew and Gentile alike are exposed. Jew and Gentile alike need mercy.So no, this is not about “Jewish fairy tales.” It is about whether truth can arrive through a form your ego refuses to receive.
>>536560751>he discovered how obscene and pathological the kikes wereAnd yet, he still chose jews to be his people who rule over the non jews, he still tried to get jews to be more jewish again, he put all of his time on earth into the jewish people, jewish studies, and jewish practices/rites/rituals, and you still refuse to say jews directly when you say anything remotely critical of them. I hate you lying, jew worshipping, jew defending vermin so much it's unreal
>>536560838>fighting against christI reject everything jewish, and that includes your king of the jews.
>>536560930You are the kind of shitters that need to get cleansed from this planet like the day of the flood.
>>536560952>t. worships a jew, believes in jewish fairytales, and supports, defends, enables, and enriches jews
>>536560980I worship the Almighty God.
>>536554773Slavery was the equivelent of living off benefits in ancient times in most of the world. You have to work but at least you can eat and have a roof over your head.Unless you're a galley slave in which case yeah you're gonna suffer and die within two years. The bible sets out rights for slaves. Thats where eye for an eye comes from. Read exodus 21Americans have just poisoned history with their theatrics about poor black people
>>536561026You worship a man who is also a jew
>>536560360The line you are looking for is found in romans. >Romans 8:20Paul does touch on it, and Genesis explains the ego mechanics in this environment because of the fall. The dialectic explains mankinds history completely through their cyclical nature regardless of what category the ego prefers. (Race/culture/ideology/philosophy you name it.) >>536560121i did answer your point, just i forgot to reply to you its here.>>536560847
>>536561083I worship the creator of Heaven and Earth, and I am the chosen ONE of that Almighty God.All those who oppose Me will die and go to Hell.
>>536561036>slaves we’re treated better 2000 years ago than in the antebellum south
>>536561134again you worship a man
>>536561159Again. I worship the Almighty God, and you hate God Almighty.You will die and go to Hell.You will never be Rich as well. Good job.Fucking retard.
>>536558179That's what the Jews did later selling it as a hygienic and medically necessary procedure just when medicine was starting to get good. They tacked it on to the modern medical procedures for the early life of a baby.
>>536554773>I fail to see how an all-loving and moral God would ever command something evil and immoral such as this.Slavery is the humane alternative to genocide. But I understand why you as an American hate humanity. You will always be a little less than a human. You will always be a rootless mutt, you will never be more than a faceless servant of the Jews. With no culture or ancestry of your own. Because only free men have those.
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>>536556579I think I will read Eph 5:6,9 for the class instead:>Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;>And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.Christianity has no problem with the existence of slaves and masters, whatsoever. It just accepts it as the worldly order. The American delusion that slavery is "something evil and immoral" is just civil-rights era brainwashing.The actual Christian commandment is to accept your role as slave or as master, and perform your duties with Christian virtues. This obviously means that a master has to treat his slaves humanely and with compassion.It's completely delusional to assume that having slaves or servants is somehow forbidden in Christianity: this idea is associated with the fall of Christianity and 1960s era atheist degeneracy. It's just another instance of the "let me explain your religion to you" meme.
>>536554773Es hombre
>>536561450Unless you're projecting fallen orientation onto the law itself thinking that the law condones the context in which it is necessary. (You are) If you get rid of moral autonomy, morality stops being an issue because everyone is behaving in line with god's ontology, not as slaves, they don't exist, not because they're lobotomized, but because there are no evil-doers, so there is no slavery.
>>536554773Christianity is in the New Testament when Jesus Christ comes. The Old Testament AKA the Torah is Jewish.
>>536554773This was before Jesus died for our sins when humans were literally a cursed beast species who were forced to carry the sins we waged. If you hate slavery, thank Christians, because they basically completely without any help eradicated it while the muslim world and Africa continue to have it and did hundreds of years before the atlantic trade at 100x the scale western nations ever did.
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>>536555022>Jesus loved gays He hates sin Homos entire identity and motivation is derived from that sin.>minorities What?
>>536561450>This obviously means that a master has to treat his slaves humanely and with compassion.The act of owning slaves itself is inhumane and without compassion, so a slave master has to delude themselves to fit it within their own moral framework.
>>536561770In terms of primitive savages, slavery was a necessary evil
>>536561770Everyone is a slave to those with more power than them. The slave and master dynamic just makes it clear.
>>536554925/thread
>>536561950>Everyone is a slave to those with more power than them.Maybe by the broadest, most useless definition imaginable lol
>>536562071If you want to live in this world, then of course, you are a slave to those with the power to end it.If you want to save those you love, then of course, you are a slave to those that can protect them.
>>536562071You are clearly only referencing black slaves in the US.The society was unarguably better with them as slaves rather than freed savages with a grudge.
>>536556039I dunno if I'd call it being a choice so much as a mental illness. Same prevalence.
>>536562111Yes people with monopolies on violence and lots of capital are powerful. No one is referring to that when they're talking about slavery, it just seems like you're trying to manipulatively pivot the conversation to meaningless generalities.Yes things suck and people are exploitative in several ways. Wow, stunnin insight, I can't stop masturbating my pretend intellect, i'm gonna cooom
>>536562152>The society was unarguably better with them as slaves rather than freed savages with a grudge.oh wow, you're really retarded.
>>536556180>and post second council catholicsI know some pre 2nd council Catholics and they are very anti-gay.Although to be fair they never actively seek out gays to insult or attack them, they just say it's a terrible sin to be gay.
>>536562223Literally 99% of the so called racism in the US is due to that fact.The freed black slaves behave as savages, its that simple.
>>536562210>No oneAm I the no One here? Why do you think those others are more significant than mine?
>>536562296>Literally 99% of the so called racism in the US is due to that fact.no it isn't lol. are you like 12?
>>536562330People hate wicked behaviour and the freed blacks are exemplars of such behaviour.
>>536562371> the freed blacks are exemplars of such behaviour.>i said so, after all
>>536562413You know its true
>>536562424No, you *feel* that it's true, and now you're projecting that emotion onto others.
>>536562453>feel>Literal statisticsAnon I
>>536562210The powerful is also a slave of those more powerful than them, and at the end of the road, there is nothing more powerful than God. The Creator of it all.
>>536562485Which "statistic" says that modern blacks are "exemplars of wickedness"?I'll eat my shirt if you can find the author of a study saying those things lmao. I know you won't, though, because none of you people ever stand by your words.
>>536562568FBI crime statsIf you dare dismiss that you can go directly fuck and proven yourself some sort of nigger tbqh
>>536560896>And yet, he still chose jews to be his people who rule over the non jews, he still tried to get jews to be more jewish again,Not sure where you're getting this from. Not in the translation of Mark that I read. I doubt you've read any of it, sounds like you just sort of regurgitate others' arguments that you've read online.If you read Lattimore's Mark, he was not trying to get them to be "more jewish" again. He was subverting their norms and rituals from the start, on the run and trying to hide what he was doing, etc. It's a bizarre book. You might want to read it. Wouldn't have to believe it, I read The Hobbit and didn't start believing in goblins and dragons. But at least you'd be a little less ignorant of what other people are talking about.
>>5365615961 Corinthians 12:18-31 (KJV) But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.And if they were all one member, where were the body?But now are they many members, yet but one body.And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.If you're thyroid decides to quit and gives the rest of the body the finger I believe you'd be in some real trouble.
>>536562647>FBI crime statsI can't find an FBI crime statistic that says anything about "exemplars of wickedness". You're retarded, aren't you?
>>536561707Yeah, again, I feel like I shouldn't have to explain this. /pol/ has troll threads all the time where leftist pics from social media are reposted with text like "Jesus said to love the poor and gays and strangers from foreign lands" and shit like that. They JUSTIFY this position by saying only the New Testament matters, the same thing Christcuck larpers on /pol/ do. How interesting.
>>536562746>sayingMurder, rape, assaults stats They don't use that phaseFucking hell man - what or who exactly I am talking to?Do you recognise yourself in a mirror?
>>536562817Pretty much every Christian just makes up Christianity in their head. There's nothing that objective or consistent about the book, it all boils down to the subjective interpretation of whatever denomination your dice roll landed on.
>>536554773post sauce already ffs
>>536562817Only thee NT does matterThat leftist twist it to suit their agenda is another matter.Gays justifying themselves is of course literal blasphemy
>>536562817The old testament does matter though. People talk out their neck when you post leviticus because we don't follow every ordinance if those laws which is explained why in the New Testament but the Old Testament definitely matters:Luke 24:27 (KJV) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
>>536562836>Murder, rape, assaults statsWhat about them? Most black people don't commit murders, rapes or assaults. And also, you didn't say these things before. You said "exemplars of wickedness". You shifted the goalposts because the original thing you said was so retarded lol. How embarrassing.
>>536561770See, this is the retarded boomer mindset. The "master-slave" relation in antiquity was completely normal, not unlike the employer-employee relation today. It was the backbone of society, you could not abolish "slavery" without dissolving society altogether, and nobody was suggesting to.The association of "slavery" with a sadistic bullwhip-wielding plantation owner is pure civil-rigths era propaganda. The Bible tells you it's wrong to be a bullwhip-wielding sadist, not that it's wrong to own slaves, and it's just boomer confusion that finds it hard to see a difference between the two.
>>536562910True, I hate how Christcucks are such angry control freaks, I try to be fair and separate the religion from the followers as best as I can though.>>536562937>>536562956One of you says only the NT matters the other says the OT matters too. This is what I also hate about Christcucks, they are so venomous in their interpretations of their religion and how everyone in the universe needs to follow it.
>>536562992>The "master-slave" relation in antiquity was completely normalyes, it was common and normalized.>not unlike the employer-employee relation todaydo stupid people actually believe this?
>>536562967The stats are literally the tip of the iceberg as you knowBlacks are exemplars of wickedness(crimes) in the US They were not during slavery - its really that simple
>>536563048You seem way too stupid to coherently respond to anything I write, so have fun arguing with the ghosts in your head from now on I guess.
>>536559930I understand perfectly and I hate the jews. The Israelites (white people) were allowed to take slaves from the heathens.The jews (not Israelites) are using what God left for us to their advantage, imposter as they are.TL:DR: we're allowed to enslave jews
>>536563072You know what I wrote was trueGod bless
>>536563103thanks for the story, friend.
>>536563018You're being narrow minded. OT law is heavily revised due to Jesus' teachings and the implications of his life, death, and resurrection. This gets very complicated in methods of interpretation but the OT matters because it informs us of God's character, the origins of the religion, and because there are many references to Grace and Jesus littered all over it. So, they're only telling you the OT religious law has been superseded by NT religious law.
>>536563151yw
>>536563196No I'm not. Leftists all the time say only the NT matters as a way to justify their lifestyles. That is my contention here, /pol/ for whatever reason completely aligns with that. Also, I've discussed with this Christcucks at length and they always say "societies change" and stuff like that. Which they do, but it eliminates Christianity as an effective counter-force against degeneracy.
>>536555289You are a fucktarded loser. Salvation is by works. Boil in a pot of shit in hell with Augustine and Jesus
>>536562711im not sure what you're referring to, my point was that religion isn't mentioned before Genesis 3, and Genesis 3 is where the moral autonomous issue comes from. The law is not needed for beings that do not sin, therefore there are no slaves. Just free creatures made in the image of God.
